Note to the lorefags about Vanitor: Looks like the outcome of Chaos winning Vanitor means they get more reinforcements, so it's not as OP as you guy were thinking.
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Levi Long
Will this stop the reddit chaos fags whining? Probably not, cause they still to even after winning.
Owen King
>Looking at the narrative overview for this mission >"Despite the valiant attempt to contain the invading forces... Imperial High Command has taken the desperate decision to overcharge the fusion core of Terebral Station Sigma. All loyalist forces must fight their way to freedom or perish amid the planet's destruction."
You lose ONE planet in system and Imperial High Command is already invoking the "Fuck this planet" option for Drenthal?
That's... a bit extreme, even by Imperium standards.
Lincoln Watson
Dude, what?
Jordan Lewis
So this is a turkey shoot mission. So What do you get for "Winning" this mission? For ether side?
Jordan Rivera
Chaos gets to do what it always does: sow Chaos. That's literally the only purpose for that generic evil guy faction. Probably some extra command points or units on the next planet or whatever.
Imperium gets away with their lives and doesn't lose massive amounts of forces. Same deal as with chaos: probably will be getting extra command points or units.
Asher Ward
The narrative blurb for the setup to Fate of Konor's Mission 5.
I guess I figured Rowboat's Imperium would be... a little less inclined to pull an Exterminatus-level option right off the bat until the very last moment. I mean, the summary of what's going on planetside for Drenthal says "should all appear lost" the Imperials will do this, but having the mission be Imperial forces essentially running away from an already activated doomsday option seems a bit weird to me.
Still, it's appropriately grimdark by 40k standards.
Imperium gets their forces off planet who get to fight another day, leaving Chaos with a planet that's in the process of tearing itself apart.
Chaos... prevents the Imperium forces on Drenthal from escaping, meaning there's less Imperials to deal with I guess?
Kayden Gomez
It's a pilot training facility. If chaos wins, the pilots dont get offworld, and there's less birds in the air later
David Brooks
Certainly fits with this week's 'painting group' being Fliers and such (least at my GW shop anyway).
Noah Morris
Why did chaos win?
Are GW fudging the result to keep it exciting?
Sebastian Adams
Yes.
Isaiah Anderson
So xenos did nothing this week? Lame
Kayden Lee
This mission and the last Started with w 75-30 Chaos lead so yes they are. Got to keep it exciting some how but with Guard options to win t1 with deep strike and move orders that Chaos lead will be gone in a few hours.
Adrian Gomez
>I guess I figured Rowboat's Imperium would be... a little less inclined to pull an Exterminatus-level option right off the bat until the very last moment. Wasn't the pushed narrative "If Chaos gets this planet, the entire system will be corrupted eventually, grrrr"? If so, just blowing the piece of shit up before even the debris itself would have corrupting influence sounds like a Rowboat thing to do.
Jonathan Morales
Stop being a moron. The destruction of the aerial forces on the planet would serve Chaos.
John Johnson
considering the massive amount of xenos help, it's pretty hilarious they're sweeping it under the rug when the imperium actually loses
Jose Martinez
>astropathic relay station >"hurrrrrrr what could chaos possibly do with a massive number of decently strong pyskers?"
Are people really this stupid? Chaos capturing an astropathic relay planet is about one of the worst things that could happen, there's a reason the imperials are nuking it and moving on.
Isaac Carter
They didn't nuke it. It's still there spewing daemons everywhere. It's called Vanitor.
Drenthal is the aerial training planet that the Imperials will blow up rather than let Chaos have it.
Lucas Garcia
So despite flyers not counting for VPs... You can still disembark and move...
Is there sudden death in narrative play?
Thomas Jones
>Is there sudden death in narrative play? Nope just checked. SD is for matched play
Welp gg all imperium wins
Jose Long
But why, though? Literally why are they nuking the planet?
Nicholas Murphy
Because GW has the narrative of a desperate struggle that they want to push, despite the results disrupting that plan. Even if Vanitor had been won by the Imperium, they would still be pushing this explanation.
Owen King
Because it's better than leaving it to Chaos?
Bentley Gray
>the flight academies of the Imperial navy are contained upon colossal carriers, each as large as a small city and covered with landing strips, hangars and barracks. The rest of the world’s population exists upon floating metropolises known as seasteads is this Girls und Panzer
Xavier James
They aren't nuking it. They will nuke it if they lose which as we see from the control meter, it seems will not happen.
Each planet opening narrative is unique and has nothing to do with the other planet's results. The results of the other factions only factored in the result of the week's planet.
Robert Walker
>Xenos helps chaos and abandons Imperium in week 4 >Chaos steamrolls by hilarious margins in-game because of one-sided week 4 mission >Chaos only reliably loses to Tau in week 4, but tau don't give a fuck anymore, win still counts for kay-oss >all chaos armies can into psykers, so they score double points >with all of these advantages, chaos barely wins week 4 >only happened because GW had to beg xenos players to show up (pic related)
Oh yeah, there's absolutely nothing wrong with this campaign whatsoever.
Nathan Rivera
2 hours ago the Imperials were winning, suddenly this? What the fuck happened?
Austin Diaz
filthy xenos stealing our points
Juan Moore
>Chaos only reliably loses to Tau in week 4 ?
Anthony Howard
> should the war upon Drenthal seem lost, the station’s fusion bore-drill could be overcharged, piercing the planetary core and setting off a series of seismic eruptions that would tear the world apart. Although such scorched-earth tactics would seriously hamper the ongoing Imperial war effort, they would deny the forces of Chaos a significant conquest.
Imperial plot armor everyone.
Tyler Hill
Those infinite reinforcements were only really really really good for shooty armies like Tau.
Blake Carter
First few hours are always a shitshow.
Also xenos have literally nothing to do except fuck with the Imperium.
Jason Campbell
Is every global campaign a 2 sided affair, Chaos vs Imperium? Any GW events that had Xenos winning points for themselves instead of being point stealers? I got into 40k at the tail end of 7th Edition so I have never done a campaign before.
Lucas Adams
I'd guess because so few games have been counted so far, even a couple in a row for one faction will push it quite far?
Robert Lopez
Fall of Medusa V
Logan Foster
Xenos players only make up about a quarter of the playerbase, which makes it difficult to make a campaign for them.
Granted, the EoT campaign had all of the various factions sorted into one of the two "sides" of the campaign, but that whole thing got shoved under the rug because reasons.
Ryder Brooks
EoT and Medusa had xenos doing side things while the Imperium and Chaos ducked it out.
In EoT the Ork player were suppose to fight the Tau players and oppose their expansion. Instead they went after the Imperium creating the Green Krusade which conquered an Imperial planet and named it Moredakka or something like that. The Tau players had no one really fighting against them so by the end of the campaign they had like 120% control ending with the Tau Empire gaining significant planetary for their empire.
Brayden Flores
This is the first 40k one for a long long time. The previous one iirc chaos won but GW pretty much fudged things to retain the status quo. They'll almost certainly do the same thing again this time.
Joseph Garcia
So this battle doesn't matter at all then.
Lucas Long
None of it matters except for week 6, as retarded as that sounds.
Not to mention we already know the ending, thanks to Dark Imperium.
So yeah, none of these battles matter.
Lincoln Morris
Unless the forces of Chaos heroically stop the reactor in time and save the people of the planet from certain death.
William Walker
>Dark Imperium
No, we don't. That was Ultramar round 1. Nurgle recalled Mort and his forces for the Rift War. Mort nuked some world and left, retreating to the Scourge Stars.
Dark Imperium has Mort planning for round 2. The Konor campaign is the prelude for round 2 with the Death Guard striking out of the Scourge Stars to assault the vital Konor system before heading towards Macrrage.
Michael Adams
>Curses! Foiled again! I'll get you next time Mortarion, and your little Nurgling too. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *Guilliman flees through a Webway Gate to go eat out his Eldar wife*
Kayden Richardson
things tend to solidify by the end of sunday we'll know who's likely to win by then
Gavin Phillips
When did Typhus become such a cheeky cunt?
Jace Thomas
>is this Girls und Panzer most likely, remember the halo gun relic for the Imperium in the gathering storm?
Camden Stewart
This mission is dumb, I won as GK already because half the army deep striked and the other half was nothing but Interceptors.
I'll carry the entire Imperium on my back if I have to with this Strat.
Samuel Nelson
Why does a lord of contagion cost more than typhus?
Jacob Sanders
Because it helps sell models if there's no reason not to buy him.
Matthew Ramirez
>Also xenos have literally nothing to do except fuck with the Imperium. You misspelled Chaos user.
Robert Stewart
Why is everybody forgetting about armagedon? That was a campaign all about xenos
Aaron Cook
Armageddon isn't real, it's just West Ullanor
Xavier Reyes
You have always paid a price for versatility, it's why space marines cost more than other infantry for comparatively less power.
Daniel Robinson
They finally got around to asking the Greenskins for help I see.
Zoggin' hell Geedubs, this 'xenos please help Chaos!' nonsense is just shameful.
Gabriel Green
>xenos are only a 1/4 of the playerbase.
citation
fucking
needed
Julian Nguyen
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Lincoln Rivera
>Neglecting the fact that people own multiple armies, and most everybody usually has some space marines or at least Imperial Gaurd.
Robert Jackson
Yeah, this also neglects that Imperium Vs Imperium games can give points to Chaos.
Tyler Thomas
>Yeah, this also neglects that Imperium Vs Imperium games can give points to Chaos. That's not a thing mate. Stop trying to make it a thing.
Logan Wright
>Knows its bait >Still replies
Dominic Mitchell
I think Xenos as a whole might be bigger than chaos now
Liam Murphy
>blatantly rigged in Imperiums favour >mission favours Imperium >every planet still manages to be a close call >chaos manages to win a planet Imperium players should honestly be embarrassed.
Ryder White
right but lumping nids, tau, and orks together is just ridiculous
Asher Lopez
The point wasn't whether Xenos should be a super faction, but that Xenos is a big group of players and not all niche
Ethan Barnes
It has been 10,000 years. Plenty of time for character development, especially the development of cheekiness.
Caleb Reyes
individually though.......
Jordan Richardson
Imperium vs Imperium does give the imperium points though.
Ryder Sullivan
SIXES OF TRUTH!
Benjamin Hall
>Chaos won a planet. So is the new ass torn in the fabric of reality as bad as predicted?
Jeremiah Ramirez
>Unless the forces of Chaos heroically stop the reactor in time and save the people of the planet from certain death. Im imaging some Chaos forces just stoping to think and going. "Wait a minute isnt this something we should be doing?"
Levi Smith
>Imperium are actually the baddies
Christian Perez
GW are wanking them to stack deliberate advantages in order for Chaos to win, yes, because if the sides were relatively even to start with the Imperium would completely flatten them.
Asher Morris
What, did they take away the ability for xenos players to take points from Chaos?
Nathaniel Hernandez
>completely flatten In every previous mission you had victory handed to you and you still had to work for it. Hell you had the advantage last mission and you somehow lost. You have chaos outnumbered and GW blatantly favouring you and you still can't do better than a Pyrrhic victory. Imperiumfags should be ashamed.
Levi James
Store owners do that. If you are an Imperium player they make you choose which of you are helping Chaos. Seriously, don't be retarded.
Samuel Hill
My store owner flips a coin before game starts and doesn't tell which player who they're fighting for to stop players throwing games. He only does it for chaos vs chaos or imperium vs imperium. Unironically not enough xenos players for it to have come up in a xenos vs xenos game yet.
Anthony Howard
Chaosfags should shut the fuck up with their constant whining. I hope GW just make a full Xenos campaing against the Imperium, just so we don't have to deal with your faggy crying again.
William Lewis
>implying any chaos player gives a shit about the campaign anymore >let alone cares enough to whine I'm not whining, I'm mocking you for having so much difficulty winning a rigged campaign. I'm just using the discounts to buy models I want and enjoying the different missions until this farce is over and GW announces whatever result they already decided is going to happen before the campaign even started.
Joshua Johnson
Its a shame of those chaos players that will ignore this and cry foul because the "game is rigged and the Imperium has moar numbuhs."
Elijah Long
Game is rigged, I don't care anymore, I was annoyed at the start but now it's just so blatant and poorly hidden that it's just pathetic.
Ayden Sanchez
>>Complaints about not winning before. >>Talks shit about Imperium players because they supposobly had an advantge.
Literally whining. Please stop playing the campaing and do everyone a favor. And I'm not an Imperium player, I play xenos.
Jayden Powell
Its okay to cry.
Ryan Roberts
>ah bluh bluh your whining >no >b-but you're complaining about not winning wrong again fuckface. If Imperium can't win by a landslide with the odds this heavily tilted in their favour they deserve to be derided. >muh not even my faction bro Your readiness to jump in at the defence of imperiumfags implies otherwise, how many points did you take away from chaos? Enjoy your hollow victory >doesn't care about campaign because of blatant rigging by GW >must be crying Like I said, I was salty at the start but over time it just got more and more pathetic. The only thing this campaign has proven is that Imperiumfags are the most cancerous faction, as if we didn't already know that.
Nathan Perry
>Store owners do that. If you are an Imperium player they make you choose which of you are helping Chaos. Seriously, don't be retarded. >Provides no proof from GW's website to back this up And you're calling the other user the retarded one.
Jordan Parker
Chaos is the most cancerous faction. Seriously, its a faction whose main character are literally children with abandonment issues. Its the faction where the players keep yelling "But Chaos will devour everything! We must win everything because Chaos is the main enemy!" Its the faction that complaints when the Imperium is supposbly more "noblebright" because they are beating them, even though the Imperium has other enemies.
Its the faction that rig with fucking proof the old Eye of Terror campaing to win.
Its the faction that cry foul everytime they get something new, like Magnus, or Mortarion, or the Death Guard.
Stop playing the campaing, let the Imperium win, and maybe stop playing the hobby too.
Levi Jenkins
>Your readiness to jump in at the defence of imperiumfags implies otherwise, how many points did you take away from chaos? >implying xenosfags aren't just taking away points from Chaos out of pure spite
It's not just chaosfags like Carnac that people loathe Chaos as a faction. You guys will cry 'rigged!' at the drop of a hat these days (although to be fair, not releasing all of the codices before the campaign started was a dick move on GW's part).
Isaiah Smith
>>Accuses the game from being rigged. >>Only has proofs from a made up vote table. >>Can't check warhammer facebook pages.
Jack Moore
>whose main character are literally children with abandonment issues. Isn't that like ANY flavor of marine spiky or clean? Also you are like the most ass blasted winning faction ever boyo! I didint see a single tantrum like the the on you just posted until you lost ONE planet. Neck yourself you unbearable cock munching autistic Nancy boy. -Yours truly user. xoxoxoxo
Camden Richardson
None of anything you said is remotely true. Chaos is the main villain, this has been the case since Fantasy battles. However that doesn't mean we're going to win in the end, anyone who thinks that is retarded. Chaos is incapable of winning, it can't be destroyed, but it can't win either. Chaos is the collective subconscious of every living being with a soul reflected by the lens that is the fabric of reality and amplified. Unless Necrons or Tyranids manage to complete their goals and destroy everything, Chaos will always exist, however Chaos cannot win because it literally relies on the other factions to exist. This is basic shit. Girlyman has been making things noblebright, it was a shitty story decision to bring him back, but I see why they did it, they wanted to up the power scale and introduce new models. I'm not going to stop playing because you're a fag and you need to get off the internet and go interact with real people for a moment. >Codex: Space Marine week 1 >Codex: CSM releases to give us some buffs >Codex: Grey Knights releases at the same time >Codex: Deathguard isn't until campaign is over I don't even play Deathguard, but this is blatant tilting in Imperiums favour. Deathguard stuff was even released in Dark Imperium box, and then the CSM codex states Deathguard and Thousand Sons can't use the codex rules. This is either blatant rigging for Imperium or pure incompetence and both are horrible options that GW can't afford to admit to. But as I said, I honestly stopped giving a shit after week 3 results came in, they were too blatant. Now they're probably fudging the numbers the other way and Chaos will win the other 3 planets and the campaign will end in a dead tie because GW writers are hacks who have no idea how to build suspense or organise a campaign.
Andrew Baker
Someone drunk ranting much....
Sounds like a Imperium player looking in the mirror and complaining about what he sees.
Mason Lopez
Thats because you don't read. Last weeks it was only: "OH! BUT ITS RIGGED!" "WHAT A SURPRISE IMPERIUM WON." And much more crying. Seriously, you can go fuck yourself with that big dildo spike on your marines.
Also, Horus literally turned to Chaos because daddy went to terra. And Abaddon doesnt want to be like daddy.
Jeremiah Myers
Well, Chaos and the Imperium are both mirror matches. I hope you all go to hell.
Love - Xeno player.
Jayden Ramirez
Man, weak bait or are imperium players actually that brain dead? if they were to rig shit why wouldn't they give chaos a win or two to actually make it seems more exciting? seems like basic logic to me.
Also, the loyalist primarchs have been living at home for the past 10,000 years, get a job and move out you freeloading pricks.
Gabriel Martinez
You are o TG dude. Do you really expect anyone here actually interact with people? And, no Chaos is not the main enemy, its one of the enemies. Its one of the reasons Xenos players dislike you guys is because you keep saying shit like this man.
Jaxon Turner
Are Chaos players this retarded, or its this just bait? They literally have counter on their site. But hey, maybe you can also say that is rigged.
Jordan Walker
Salty Xeno Imperial supporter. Kk King of the Salt throne.
>Space Muhrines have primaris, more options, and a full codex. >Chaos has a half complete codex with a third of new units coming out in codexes over the next 4 months
Go fuck yourself user.
Easton Adams
>classic fantasy battles had almost all factions hating chaos >chaos is held out of reality by ancient toad magic I said originally main bad guys, these days we're only one of the main big bads of course. Nids and Crons are both trying to actually end all life, Orks want to war with everything. Personally I think Imperium should just fall to Chaos so we can do Chaos vs Xenos, Xenos actually have decent warp resistance and the three I listed have shown to be able to fuck over daemon worlds. I feel like it'd be more interesting if humanity was using chaos to fight off xenos threats.