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What warlord trait and relic should I use? I want termi lord to be my HQ I thought about Unholy fortitude + intoxicating elixir. All units but sorcerer are Slaneesh.
Anthony Cook
Very soon
Henry Murphy
Honestly, he's not going to be too safe on tanks. He absolutely will not be able to take them out by himself, not even one, so unless they have some bad positioning, he's gonna get shot up the next turn.
Even combining lascannons with him to make sure vehicles are dead, you would probably be better off my just focusing vehicles with cannons and using that -4 AP to ruin the days of any particularly elite infantry squads (which he can definitely solo unless they're rocking an invulnerable save)
Michael Myers
The got legion rules, traits, stratagems, relics, and they still have the best traitor color scheme. Hell, they got the best color scheme out of all the legions, save for perhaps the Dusk Raiders before Mortarion showed up and made them all snot/puke-green.
Sebastian Robinson
Use chainswords on the bikers because their primary armament is more than good for shooting. Gives them a chance to do something if they get charged.
Elixir is a good bet. Pushes you into 6str to mulch GEQ
Adrian Scott
I don't understand the combi flamer on the csm. Couoled with missile launcher is a waste of points imo, as the missile launcher should be sitting back 48" from anything, shooting it, while the flamer is the exact opposite. As a charge deterent it's fine, I guess but you're still not using it up to it's potential. The rest seems solid, but maybe consider dropping the flamers for an extra bike to give your precious plas some padding?
Ryder Harris
>Lord of Flux: All enemies within 12" treat all terrain, even open ground, as difficult terrain. Any unit that runs, moves flat out, turbo-boosts, or charges within this bubble must take Dangerous Terrain.
So what will Magnus' Warlord Trait do in 8th?
>-1 to be hit from more than 12" away
Logan Rogers
I'm thinking about taking a bunch of chosen with Combi-flamers. Am I retarded?
Angel Phillips
Yes. You should do it though.
Gabriel Sanders
I could see them doing a "any movement within 12' of Magnus is treated as double the normal amount of distance covered"
Jaxson Rodriguez
GAMES WORKSHOP JUST REMOVED ALL FACTION KEYWORDS FROM LEGACY WARSCROLL UNITS
EXPECT ALL NON-CODEX UNITS TO RECEIVE THE SAME TREATMENT IN TIME
Isaac Adams
That's a good idea. I already have plenty of anti-infantry though. Flamers out the ass, lightning claws, murder sword biker lord, DP with axe, ExChamp with powerfist, and a berzerker squad loaded up to the gills with chainaxes. I'm unsure of how to build this guy in general.
Powerfist and elixir would make him do pretty great damage against most things, chainfist just makes that better, just.. maybe I'm too anti-infantry saturated.
Jacob Phillips
source?
Josiah Young
Combi bolters + 2xplasma+combi-plasma definitely is enough shooty. I'll give them chainswords thanks. I wanted to make them antichargers, but I see your point about mixing them with ML. I don't have more bikers so I'll drop the heavy stubber and just give csm squads combi plasmas.
Hunter Richardson
Post dudes
Ethan Hall
I'm pretty sure we knew this was going to happen.
the indexes are for 8th most likely they will go away in 9th.
rip my techmarine on a bike.
Zachary Cooper
Whaddya getting at?
Jaxon Jackson
They just released the updated warscroll compendiums. Literally ALL legacy warscrolls lost their faction keywords including the entire Bretonia and Tomb Kings armies.
Angel Adams
Thats exactly what's going to happen to units that were left in the index after that goes out of print next edition or sooner, this isnt news.
David Ortiz
OH GOD THEY'RE COMBINING
Isaiah Bennett
I just figured that flamers were largely shit because of range, and combi-flamers are still cheaper than other special weapons, so why not, right? Chosen already have 2 attacks, so I can use them to clear away infantry pretty well.
Matthew Allen
cute dudes
Jaxson Roberts
So those armies are illegal now?
Bretonia was cool :/
Chase Gutierrez
>Literally just finished assembling a biker lord ala Doomrider with a nice custom base u wot?
Ryan Stewart
flamers get fucked by overwatch range, so you end up paying for something you might not even get to use.
Charles Collins
rate my first model
Just picked up a start collecting box, some infiltrators and an ironstrider. Help me on what i should do next. Kastelans are really powerful i hear.
Camden Nelson
my condolences. use him while you can
Justin Garcia
Can I take a Great Unclean One in a 1000pt game as mono-Nurgle?
Wyatt James
You won't regret buying Kastellans. Ever.
And nice job imo, he looks fuckin menacing.
Robert Perez
Hey Veeky Forums, did you get to play any fun games today?
I tried the new mission, crimson slaughter vs the imperial fists. I deployed all my guys carefully in to ruins to remember he ignored cover. But then he deployed, 5 squads of 10 marines in a perfect 2 by 5 block of marines all next to each other with two captains and a lieutenant in the middle, marching one behind the other. Just a tide of yellow marines marching forward with flamers and missile launchers.
But then my helbrute came in, he survived four lascannons, ran up to their lines, survived four missile launchers before throwing himself in to the enemy lines, tearing a captain apart and surviving near 20 marines trying to punch him to death.
Nathaniel Parker
you can do whatever you want.
follow your dreams senpai
Landon Gomez
If push comes to shove, I'll get some bikers and run him as their champion I guess..
Joseph Robinson
Just pop em in a rhino with a dedicated melee squad and use them to clear a path where need for said melee guys.
Nolan Jenkins
Why does GW encourage conversions while also stripping fluffy options from codices? It seems really stupid.
Noah Johnson
Yes, he's a standard HQ choice. Smallest army to have him in would be him and one unit of troops so he could easily fit in to 500 points.
Austin Long
No. Just only playable in a Grand Alliance so you get no faction rules if you use them.
Carter Watson
What is this thing?
Thomas Scott
two pipes banded together
Adam Nguyen
I did, actually. I went to my local GW store to pick up some paints and decided to take a test-game for 8th.
It was fun. Doesn't seem like a game I would play seriously (or sober), but it's fun.
Jeremiah Martinez
Loota
Landon Bailey
With their formation broken, the marines scattered. Using what firepower they had they killed the sorcerer and the helbrute stopping short of the last bit of open ground before they escaped the board edge.
Liam Anderson
my first guess would be some kind of stub gun or shotgun from necromunda
Gabriel Allen
Orks, Necromunda or Traitor Guard.
Blake Cox
Thanks! What weapons should i run for the kastelans? Fists or phosphors, flamers or more phosphors? What combo works best?
Also, anyone have a tip on which ironstrider to build? Lots of options there too.
Jack Jones
Marines smashed in to marines (the daemons didn't last a second, unfortunatly) and it was a brutal fight on both sides. Kranon ran in with his murder sword and slapped the captain down to one wound, captain attacked taking him to down to four wounds. His marines took Kranon down to two and captain attacked again doing four damage, just when I thought it was all over I rolled his FnP only to get three sixes! Kranon lived to finish off the captain and chop up 6 of the marines over 2 turns winning the game.
And that was it, a win for chaos.
Evan Powell
No. Yvraine is for Aeldari only.
Easton Ramirez
New Ork boyz kit or Necromunda.
Oliver Walker
Honestly looks very fantasy-ish. Could be more dorfs.
Landon Ramirez
This, my friends, is how Squatting works.
Liam Gonzalez
They are still usable, user.
Easton King
Necromunda or admech stuff
or possibly AOS stuff I don't fucking know about that shit
Jacob Carter
Squats were "usable" throughout 2nd Ed. 40k too.
Joseph Carter
>slow institutionally planned removal Muh old model genocide!!!
Evan Harris
Can't see why not.
Logan Jenkins
Orks, Necromunda, or AoS Dwarves probably.
Carson Morgan
If the index units that aren't in the codex get their faction keywords removed, how does that affect your army in 40k?
Say my biker lord got made "illegal", including him anywhere would remove my battleforged status and disallow me from getting any CP or legion traits etc?
Daniel Miller
I remember the day they removed the Squat keyworld from the 3rd Edition Index Imperium. They tricked us all into going to Games Workshop, they said there were plastic Sisters of Battle, but when we got there the Blueshirts were going from neckbeard to Neckbeard with a black marker. Thousands of Key Words were lost that day. Literally dozens of players were left without an army.
I will never forgive Games Workshop for what happened on 9/11/2001.
Gabriel Collins
Can Tau be infected by Nurgle's plagues. If so, can there be Tau poxwalkers?
Daniel Perry
"Thank the Emperor! Reinforcements have arrived! Greetings Honorable Battle Brother! Are you ready to purge these filthy heretics? ...What's that smell?"
Jack Lee
That art's cool. Where is it from?
Jacob Morris
Yes, even Necrons can be poxwalkers. Even two if they try hard enough.
Christian Taylor
Toxwalkers.
Cooper Robinson
Chaos sorc with TDA and Slaanesh. Take FnP power and prescience.
DS terminators (also slaanesh), lord and sorc. Cast fnp on termies, cast prescience on termies. They're now hitting on 2+ re-rolling 1's.
Use the endless cacophony strat on the termies for 10 extra overcharged plasma shots that still hit on 2+ and re-rolls ones.
Isaiah Peterson
When did Mortarion fight the Tau?
David Robinson
high rez version in case people want to use it as a wallpaper or something
Luke Barnes
which army is the most vaporwave? which army is the most synthwave?
Michael Wilson
hey guys the new bloke from a few threads ago here just bought the start collecting imperal guard set is it better to just get the citadel glue? or do i use any old glue from a shop? and is it still codexes that are needed to buy or not? or is it those index things?
Jack Rivera
On his way to pick up an anchovie pizza.
Alexander Martin
Kastelans should be all Phosphor on every possible weapon mount, all the damned time. Switch them to Protector Protocols and fire 18 S6 Ap-2 D1 Ignore Cover shots per extremely tough model, they're the best unit we have in that configuration. I only have two, but they've pretty much won me games on their own.
Ironstrider variants are all pretty much equally meh, but I like my Riot Control Lance/Phosphor Serpenta Dragoon twins because they're surprisingly durable and can be used to bully anti-infantry hordes like Daemonettes away from your lines, as well as take anti-tank fire for your Dunecrawlers. Also good for objectives, but don't expect them to really kill anything other than a couple light infantry or a Marine here and there.
Brayden Murphy
I'm curious, are Primaris space marines any good? I've been thinking about getting into the game and they come in the starter kit.
Adam Ward
Noise Marines.
Kevin Gomez
Might as well as pop Vets of the Long War to add +1 To Wound so you're hitting on 2+/rr'ing 1s and Wounding on 2+.
As since VOTLW lasts until the end of the phase. You can use it for your second round.
Xavier Long
unless you know the glue is high quality, I would go with GW's stuff.
Also Indexes are like shit codexes, they're making their way through the armies to give them all codexes. IG will get their codex this year.
Hudson Bailey
Is the visarch a jojo reference?
Anthony Williams
They're like two marines stapled together. The problem is that they still have one weapon and there's too many multi-damage weapons in the game.
They look cool though.
Jace Brown
noise marines are hair metal
Owen Green
They still have the order keyword so your biker would have the Chaos keyword. You would use the generic Chaos traits and stuff.
Christopher Jackson
Tau are MacCragge adjacent. Makes sense to me.
Joseph Campbell
Also, bikers, take 2 flamer and a c-flamer with chainswords.
Warlord trait should OBV be the AL one, we are alpharidudes or whatever is called.
Give the lord a maul and take the Black Mace.
Drop the ML and give your alphas plasmas.
Joshua Diaz
Don't buy any Index's. Download them from the Mega in the OP and/or get Battlescribe and print your list from there.
Justin Torres
Some are. Some aren't.
Michael Johnson
Revell Contacta Professional.
Accept no substitutes.
Currently IG/AM don't have a codex so it's Index Imperium 2 that you need.
Xavier Walker
Yes. We're not immune to Chaos, just hard to find in the warp, so we're ignored more.
Mason Clark
Except Tau and Ultramarines never fight.
Its probably because both factions have huge plot armour. Tau because they're small and if they lose, they kinda lose forever and Ultramarines cuz billy the 12 year old can't have his blue guys lose.
Joshua Phillips
In Fire Warrior they get along.
Kevin Walker
Scythes are a really stupid weapon.
I know I know, rule of cool. Still, it's not an effective weapon.
James Flores
What about the Death Guard, then? Are they more viable?
Ryan Ortiz
Only worth if you're shooting at high T targets or at something that needs to die very badly.
Henry Roberts
Cool. I've been interested in at least fielding one, which is why i bought them. And i did buy one especially because i am using taser goads on my infiltrators and would like to have the chicken have a huge-ass taser lance to bully with too. Is it worth magnetizing the kit to have both the ballistari and the dragoon option available you think?
Angel Morgan
Death Guard are strong and only getting stronger with their Codex next month.
Isaac Scott
We don't know yet. If the other Primarchs are anything to go by, their codex may be one of the best.