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SniperGod
SniperGod

Slow and Purposeful edition

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GW FAQ (1.1):
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FW FAQ (1.1):
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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

What's the verdict on the Typhus sculpt?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Be'lakor is the best.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@BunnyJinx
I like it since I saw I could leave the fly shit off.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Stupidasole
At jobbing.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@BunnyJinx
Pose is bad, optional smoke n'shit is a good touch.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

tourney fags are cancer

King_Martha
King_Martha

I don't know about you guys but I'm quite more hyped for the idea of Angron Demon Prince in some future than for Mortarion right now

Spamalot
Spamalot

@SniperGod
Ad Mech codex when?
Also, are there any alternative paint jobs to ad mech available somewhere?

and whether its acceptable to play these guys as dark ad mech

viagrandad
viagrandad

Spartan with tarantulas deployed around it as a "fuck off" sign seem ok?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@King_Martha
Why?
You already have the Bloodthirster, Angron is just more of the same shit.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@BunnyJinx
It's too similar to the other Deathshroud.
If I didn't knew, I would have mistaken him for a Champion or something.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Was moving the story forward and introducing the primarchs a mistake?

idontknow
idontknow

@happy_sad
Isn't Angron supposed to be a giant bloodthirster, like titan size?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@viagrandad
What?
Do Tarantulas have a rule that prevent me from shooting the Spartan

hairygrape
hairygrape

Do you ever build a army for aesthetic purposes?

Been working on a DG list that centers heavily on sacred numbers and shapes.

About 1750 point ATM, including 3 blight haulers not on the deployment chart, intended to act as the Arrows of the symbol.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@viagrandad
Jesus dude was 11 million not enough?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@iluvmen
Moving the story forward not necessarily

But Primarchs yes, they are a mistake.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@idontknow
ADB described him as big as a warhound, but he's ADB and GW wouldn't make him that big.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Reposting from the dying thread for some more feedback. So I just read through the AdMech codex leak and I'm hella excited to actually start building my army, finally. I had put it off since 8th was releasing not soon after my initial interest. As far as buying stuff, I only have the start collecting box, an extra box of Skitarii, and an extra Onager.

So I'm looking through the Forgeworlds and I kinda can't decide which I like better. I'm torn between Lucius and Stygies VIII.

Lucius
Dogma: -1AP weapons become 0AP weapons
Trait: +1 Invuln
Stratagem: 1CP: Hold back a unit. At the end of any of your movement phases, deep strike them within 9" of the enemy.
Relic: One use 30" teleport shunt, staying 9" from the enemy.

Stygies VII
Dogma: -1 to hit if further than 12" from the enemy
Trait: +1 to hit vs. non-imperial and non-chaos armies
Stratagem: 1CP: Infiltrate a unit 9" from the enemy in deployment.
Relic: Roll a d6 at the end of each fight phase for each unit within 1". On a 4+ that unit takes a mortal wound.

I honestly can't decide, and it's not for like paint scheme. I'm doing my own thing anyway with cool volcanic bases.

I think that Stygies' dogma is insanely useful, but the rest of the kit is pretty lackluster. Yeah you can Infiltrate some heavy hitters into cover and pop people around, but I'm not convinced that's better than outright deepstriking where I want, when I want. Not to mention my Dominus can literally clear the board in a single move if he needs to go repair a fallen crawler or something.

Lucius' dogma is...okay? It definitely shows off the 'We have the best armor in any forge world'. But stygies can outright make your opponents retarded. At the same time, there's no 'within 12' for Lucius either.

It's like, wacky teleport aesthetics vs Stealth aesthetics basically. Both Forge worlds are probably the only two runners up to Mars and their Cawl gunline. They're both good, really.

TechHater
TechHater

@BunnyJinx

dumb action pose for nurgle model

HOLY FUCK YUCK!

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Playing a 250 PP game with my buddy so he can test out all of his new DG toys. Should be fun but it'll definitely be the biggest game I've played in 8th. Looking forward to the inevitable Dante/Sang Guard vs Typhus/Deathshroud duel.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@iluvmen

Yes, 40k is no longer about the Imperium. It's about Roboute Guileman.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@VisualMaster
That's fucking retarded holy shit I hate ADB so much

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@iluvmen
It's not that bad. We were stuck for years, it's hard to move, but im glad it's moving.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@BunnyJinx
Better off getting LoC off eBay for like 10 bucks.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@TechHater
https://youtu.be/5LdafkwUGLo?t=31s

girlDog
girlDog

@VisualMaster
wasn't he also described as having like 5 bloodthirsters as his bodyguard?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Has there been any even semi-official word on if DG Daemon Princes can take wings or not?

viagrandad
viagrandad

Asked as last thread died.

Two land raiders or a spartan?

Or do I get some FW flyers and be that guy

takes2long
takes2long

@Snarelure
It's ok if The Beast, Silent King, and other super units are added and separated into an "all-star mode" so normal games aren't a SHOOT IT WITH EVERYTHING WE GOT affair.

idontknow
idontknow

@BunnyJinx
fucking horrible, I'll be using the old Typhus

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@viagrandad
2 land raiders, an excelsior and a crusader

hairygrape
hairygrape

@iluvmen
@Snarelure

A setting isn't a story, and it's stupid of them to be treating it as one.

There was no problem with the idea of setting stories further down the timeline, but "advancing the story" leads to idiocy.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@viagrandad
FW models

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Dreamworx
You are retarded.THERE IS FLUFF IN THE DAEMON CODEX ABOUT A DAEMON PRINCE SO BIG HE TAKES OVER THE SPACE OF A TOMB WORLD'S CORE.

But Angron being a little huge is too much and for no other reason but because ADB supposedly wrote it. That fucking racist mentality man.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Evil_kitten
It's right in their unit entry, they can take wings.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@viagrandad
Denying the holocaust isn't cool dude

Skullbone
Skullbone

@hairygrape
This is cool. Have you considered making a movement tray to fit them all on?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@hairygrape
A setting isn't a story, and it's stupid of them to be treating it as one.

They're not though.
They advanced the setting, but there's no universal story.

Evilember
Evilember

@viagrandad
Double Land Raiders. It looks cooler.

WebTool
WebTool

@hairygrape
All other TT companies expand and advance their setting
40Ktards : It's a setting not a story!

Only in 40K fandom do you spot this retardation.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Emberfire

Bullshit, the entire gathering storm and dark imperium arc treated the setting like one big story where Gulliman is the protagonist.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Poker_Star
t. poorfag

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Skullbone
I have, I miss having a wood shop to work in, a level router and a bandsaw would have me set up quick.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Anyone else toss close combat weapons on their sergeants that aren't in your actual list just for appearance?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Gigastrength
That fucking racist mentality man.
Hello Carnac, please give us another lesson how faith in anything is supposed to be a denial of logic.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@ZeroReborn
No, a story was told that changed the setting, but the setting is not a story, it's a place that stories happen.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Any taufags mind giving me some advise? I want my cadre to be recon/fast assault and I have a bunch of pathfinders/breachers/stealthsuits so far, are ghostkeel good enough anti tank on their own? what kinds of HQs play to this style? Why arent Firesights HQs damn it

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Need_TLC
I advise you to learn proper english, then throw your models in the trash and get a better army.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Dreamworx

It cut the Galaxy in half and restructured the imperium into Gulliman's pet project. If it was just individual stories in the setting we wouldn't have such retardation.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Nojokur
Yes. I do my models by rule of cool and sergeants need to stand out in the squad anyways.

@viagrandad
Chaos or loyalist?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Sir_Gallonhead
Is this a new tasty meme?
That looks like decent english to me

idontknow
idontknow

@Illusionz
I won't throw my pearls to Xitan swine.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@cum2soon
mind giving me some advise

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@VisualMaster
ADB described him as big as a warhound

Where?

Methshot
Methshot

@Soft_member
Stories can effect settings, but that doesn't mean the setting is a story.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@SomethingNew

Good because I just gave my Melta and combi-Melta tac squad sarge a power sword and there's no way that isn't just a waste of four points.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@iluvmen
Not particularly. Making all the primarchs giant action figures was a bit of a mistake, though. Save that for the daemonic ones.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Sir_Gallonhead
phoneposting
fine, advice. No matter how hard you cry tau will always be here, get over it already

Skullbone
Skullbone

@idontknow
On the fucking dot everytime lmao
Honest question, why are you incapable of writing the compressed form of a word properly? Do you have dyslexia or a related disorder? Do you read "Chrisitan" everytime you see the word Christian or something? Is this connected to your rampant autistic schizophrenia?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Gigastrength
The Emperor's Gift.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Typhus looks a lot nicer when you desaturate him, don't look at him from head on and de-emphasize the nurgling.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Methshot

It's a fucking Galaxy with a ten thousand year period to set stories in. Treating it as something that needs a broad Galaxy wide change is a problem.

WebTool
WebTool

@Sharpcharm
he says while crying about the mean Veeky Forums man talking shit about his weeaboo army
top kek

RumChicken
RumChicken

@idontknow
He IS adorable standing on tippy toes trying to look commanding.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Flameblow

You can remove the nurgling completely fairly easily, going by the sprue pics.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@BunnyJinx
I like it and will be using it. Will be leaving the flies and smoke off it, though.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@SniperWish
It's a fucking Galaxy with a ten thousand year period to set stories in.

And they can still do that, they can also advance it as they wish.

Treating it as something that needs a broad Galaxy wide change is a problem.

Why? Because it hurts your butt?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Skullbone
And if a Xitan get a attitude. Pop it like it's hot, pop it like it's hot, pop it like it's hot

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Any anon's got CADIA STANDS PDF?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Nojokur
conveniently ignores the question while deciding to strawman me as a christcuck instead
Typical Carnac. I consider my job here done.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Spazyfool
No, I got the mobi.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Three contenders left, cast yer vote

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@RumChicken
Good conversion!

MPmaster
MPmaster

@DeathDog
It looks like you'd just have to fill in the hole he'll leave on Typhus' leg and then cover up the hand that is left over on his armour, should be easy enough to make it look like some random fleshy bits.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Why are HHfags such manlets?

girlDog
girlDog

@RumChicken
tippy toes

His feet are planted though.

farquit
farquit

@WebTool
he says while still memeing about a faction he was told to hate in order to fit in
[email protected]

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Nude_Bikergirl
I converted a Xitan to the light. Holy shit!

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@King_Martha
str/t 4 vs str/t 5

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Crazy_Nice

Primaris

likme
likme

@Crazy_Nice
My votes Russ Grey.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@happy_sad
You didn't convert anyone lmao, I never was a christcuck. Not a shabbos goy atheist nigger like you and your idol though. Eat shit.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@King_Martha
Because HH hasn't been Sigmarized yet

Playboyize
Playboyize

@King_Martha
Chaos is a hell of a drug.

Methshot
Methshot

@King_Martha

Aren't tentacles more a Tzeentch thing? Maybe Slaanesh overlap if it's a hentai thing.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@farquit
implying people hate taufags because they're trying to fit in and not because they genuinely are a shitty faction that attracts shitty players
Taufags, just as naive as their faction is in the lore.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@MPmaster
You can just scrape the arm off.

@girlDog
Ans that puts him a head lower than his subordinate

@Lord_Tryzalot
It seems very popular on Veeky Forums at least 4 other have done it, as an added bonus, it gives me a awesome Icon of Nugle for my PM squad.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@DeathDog
Remove the Nurgling
Removing one one Nurgle's little pretties....
The fuck is wrong with you?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Crazy_Nice
The blue

SniperGod
SniperGod

@kizzmybutt
No need for thanks, my enlightened friend. Seeing the chains of the true Corpse God fall from mind of a fellow human bean is reward enough.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@King_Martha
Fuck yeah, Angron has the potential to be the coolest primarch yet.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Burnblaze
He can walk.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Methshot
Aren't tentacles more a Tzeentch thing?

No, they're a general Chaos thing.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Is there still any possibility to the rumor of a new Great Unclean One in the near future?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@TreeEater

What are the parts used though?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@SniperGod
this is what carnac ACTUALLY BELIEVES
Holy shit I didn't come here to have my sides obliterated hahhahahhahahaha

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@iluvmen
moving the story forward
No
introducing the primarchs
Yes. They're a black hole that sucks in all creativity and warps the setting around them, devaluing almost every other character by dint of existing.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@CouchChiller

And yet they don't really fit Nurgle or Khorne very well.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Methshot
Feathers, beaks and talons are the Tzeentch thing now.
Tentacles are Nurgle, crab claws are Slaanesh and Khorne has ???.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@MPmaster
Why is his head multiple pieces?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Methnerd
implying your attitude isnt based on 1d4chan memes
Stay salty gue'la ;)

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Illusionz
Says you.
But who are you?
Nobody.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Need_TLC
Khorne things are hounds

happy_sad
happy_sad

@JunkTop
Stock model, nothing added only removed bits.

w8t4u
w8t4u

What are some new supplements you'd like to see for 8th?

idontknow
idontknow

@GoogleCat
Death to the False Messiah!

Oh..wait. He already died once....

Double Death to the False Messiah!

likme
likme

@Boy_vs_Girl

(You)

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Crazy_Nice
Tash'var, Vior'la, and Dal'yth marines?

Playboyize
Playboyize

If Skitarii Vanguard have no melee weapons, they can't make attacks in the fight phase right?

Methshot
Methshot

@Raving_Cute
CAD optimization made it that way.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Greetings, Comrades!

PDF
https://mega.nz/#!Mh13ASBa!vh4vUs-iw9lvubVEooF3PTYBm5G_PI66Ve6-dENNsQk

Epub
https://mega.nz/#!Qwd3zSSB!A6wf-ubMX0r9yGtRkFZjO20hdxH5LqzGkiC-Y69bQMs

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Playboyize
Have you read the rulebook?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Methnerd
You are just mad because the T'au are going to win in the end.

Evilember
Evilember

@Crazy_Nice
I'd say Rhinox or Russ, preferably the former. In my eyes the Khorne Red clashes a bit too much with the green, whereas the Rhinox Hide blends nicely, if a bit simply, and provides a darker contrast to the yellow and white.

On the other hand, the Russ Grey would keep the model looking lighter, if that's your preference. Both are good options though. It also depends how you intend to use it elsewhere on the model.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Playboyize
This was FAQd.

All models are assumed to have a weapon with the profile:

S user, AP 0, D1

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Carnalpleasure
Yeah but I just want a quick yes no answer so I don't have to go diving into the book again.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Playboyize

You're forgetting their massive cybernetic dongs.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Lord_Tryzalot
knowing what memes there are on 1d4chan in the first place
Congrats, you played yourself.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Methnerd
DO NOT DOWNLOAD
RUSSIAN HACKERS WILL GET YOUR WEBZONE ADDRESS AND STEAL YOUR VOTES

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@RavySnake
If a unit has a A and S score they can make that many attacks regardless of armament, CC weapons just add to the effect of those

TechHater
TechHater

@BinaryMan
Probs not
GuO wasn't even in the deathguard codex

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Methnerd

Oh hey, is this skittles mein commiefuhrer?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@idontknow
It's like you get off of making yourself look like a retard. How does it work?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@MPmaster
And skulls and collars of course.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Flameblow
afaik its in the rules themselves already

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Playboyize
No? They just make as many attacks as their datasheet says at their normal strength.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Methnerd
Ty Vlad

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Methnerd
Please annex me daddy putin

Lunatick
Lunatick

@AwesomeTucker
what're those on his left arm? tentacles.
also I never looked close at the head of that thing, that's hilarious

King_Martha
King_Martha

@BinaryMan
Probably. Nurgs is getting a bit of a push in AoS too. The LoC came after Magnus with an AoS release too.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@BinaryMan
retard for not conforming to Xitanity

What a dreadful bigot, you are.

farquit
farquit

@BlogWobbles
being unaware of 1d4chan memes when faggots like you regurgitate them endlessly
Next you'll be telling me Tau are communist.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@likme
@Emberburn
Was leaning towards it as well

@kizzmybutt
The fact that I had too Google that should suffice as an answer
It's Raptors tho I want to give my Vets something else than red helmets, hence the relatively neutral trims

@Evilember
Yeah, you summarised what I feel pretty well there. Think I'll go with Russ tho, as it's meant for my Vets. It'll make them stick out a bit without being a throbbing slap in your face

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Methnerd
Russia delivers once again

Inmate
Inmate

@Spamalot
bigot
Alright, shitposting aside, why the fuck do libtards misuse the shit out of this word? Do they even know the actual definition of it, not just "mean person"?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Methnerd
Spassiba tovarish commandier

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@farquit
equalists
collectivists
progressives

This is what the fluff literally calls them. These are codewords for communism.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@AwesomeTucker

Shame they don't sell this on it's own, it'd make a pretty good base for a Helbrute conversion.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@farquit
being aware of what is a 1d4chan meme and what isn't in the first place
Nah, they're clearly a caste system. A leftist one but still not communist. What about it?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Inmate
Why do you feel the need to drag /pol/ crap to a 40K thread? Oh wait....85% of the Imperial fanbase is /pol/!

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Spamalot

Exitans

?????????

I know what you're aiming for, but you aren't hitting it.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@TreeEater
you mean chaos?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Playboyize
Buy it now for $40!
or
Buy it on ebay for $12

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Deadlyinx
That's a no true Scotsman fallacy. These castes, at least in theory, are said to be in equal standing to each other.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Playboyize
I'm sure you could find it for cheap on bits sites or ebay.

Evilember
Evilember

@TreeEater
No, I'm serious. I've seen that word to describe fucking everyone and anyone on the right who says something vaguely politically incorrect. How is it that so many fucking people don't understand such a simple word and misuse it so often?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Sharpcharm

Yeah but the eBay one is monopose snapfit. They'd have to give it it's own kit for a solo release.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Emberburn
they really aren't

StonedTime
StonedTime

@SniperGod
They'd have to give it it's own kit for a solo release.
Good joke
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/horus-heresy-contemptor-dreadnought

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@BunnyJinx
Worse than the 30k one, better than the old 40k one. I'll eventually get it.

TechHater
TechHater

@Emberburn
None may cross castes, neither by blood or occupation.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Carnalpleasure
No, Chaos are liberals.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Emberburn
What? I'm not a "hurr durr not REEEL communism" retard. I'm just pointing out that they don't really align with basic marxist ideology, neither do they really have the intention to align with it at all (which is where NOT REEL faggots get it wrong).

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@kizzmybutt
Oh I never considered the excelsior good heads up tx
@Evilember
Rule of Cool everything
@SomethingNew
Loyalist
The pic was just cuz

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Christ's sake. Talk about warhammer you fucks.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@RavySnake
Yes, they are. In Fire Warrior, the Tau sub-commander tells himself the creed of the Tau. All castes are equal to each other. An Ethereal in his ivory tower is as equal as a earth caste dirt farmer.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Fuzzy_Logic
Report and move on.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

are Tartaros termis worth their points?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Flameblow
Looking forward to getting my hands on him.

Chop chop.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@RavySnake
Commies claim to have an equal society but its reallly totally unequal
again
Well imagine my shock.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@TechHater
Pretty sure that communist countries implemented racist and homophobic laws. Did that make them any less red?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Sir_Gallonhead
nothing to do with communism you fucking idiot
@Ignoramus
a PS2 game
aha, okay

takes2long
takes2long

@happy_sad
aha, okay

The novel.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@MPmaster
racist
Not really they just killed by class. That's where the whole "bourgeoise" and "proletariat" bullshit comes from.
homophobic
Was the norm back then. Should still be if you ask me but I'm not gonna derail the thread arguing about poofters.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Khorne - Liberal outrage culture
Slaanesh - Liberal degeneracy
Nurgle - Liberal acceptance and tolerance
Tzeentch - Liberal faux intellectualism and drive for change

Is Guilliman red pilled?

Techpill
Techpill

@Fuzzy_Logic
Lasgun Laser Sight: +1 to hit; 2ppm
Why can't this be a wargear choice? This picture shows that they have it.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

12 bloodthirsters

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Techpill
Those aren't sights. Those are twin-linked lasguns.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Upvote if you hate taufags and you also voted for TRUMP

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@ZeroReborn

One thing I think you are forgetting is that you aren't obligated to choose your forge world's warlord trait or relic.

Stygies VIII may have a mediocre warlord trait and relic, but you don't care. You could give your warlord some of the better generic traits/relics. The '+1 to repair damage' trait and the Autocaudecus to let them re-roll repair dice (If I recall correctly, anyways) seem pretty powerful.

The only thing you cannot change is your Dogma and your stratagem. If it's a choice between the Dogma and stratagems of Lucius and Stygies, I think Stygies is the victor here. Stygies has a dogma that will be useful every single game. Stygies has a stratagem that will be useful every single game. If you want to infiltrate more cautiously in case you don't get the first turn, you can do that. If you want to play risky and hope for a turn one charge, you can do that.

Lucius is great, but I think Stygies has more options hidden in the stratagem and has likely the best dogma out of any of the forge worlds. I don't really think there are any units that Lucius runs better than Stygies (or any other faction for that matter). Stygies, on the other hand, is likely the best faction at running Dragoons bar none.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Once again lore arguing has accelerated thread death while adding nothing of value.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Deadlyinx
All I'll say is that if Girlyman was around he'd be getting my vote.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Techpill
It is in Shadow War.

WebTool
WebTool

@Techpill
It's WHY they have bs 4, and conscripts only have bs 5

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Burnblaze
that mini's design was completely ruined by stuffing a gimp into it, what fucking retard came up with that stupid shit

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Snarelure
Don't let the Commissar hear you, or that's a flogging for you.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

So, is it worth mounting a recon drone to my devilfish? Seems kinda useful to give it another burst cannon and ignore cover

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

>>55528870

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@DeathDog
I beg to differ. The guy with his arms and legs cut off and directly linked to the machine is the best part of that mini. To each their own.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Deadlyinx
Can't wait to see Lion's progagonda art. Bet it will out cheesy Guilliman's

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Deadlyinx
No shit, feudalistic starspanning empires that purge degenerate heretics is redpilled as fuck.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Deadlyinx
Redboute Pilliman
Fights liberalism
Becomes autocrat
Goes on Crusades
Wants to make the Imperium great again.
Not religious but recognizes the need the dumb masses have for religion

It fits.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@WebTool
I think the BS skill difference is because of better training/experience than gear, veterans have BS+3 and have regular lasguns.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Sir_Gallonhead
Yeah, they're almost as bad as the lore/fluff retards; some don't even play!

sincerely: a modeling/painting enthusiast who plays but eschews the horrible story

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Need_TLC
Still a bit too sharp colors for my tastes.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@PurpleCharger
Yeah, I got lazy or i would have deadened the green but that also bleaches the bronze to the polished steel look.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@PurpleCharger
Nice, just a shame the left arm changes it from a scythe raised pose to a dancing pose.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Carnalpleasure
What's wrong with what I said?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Harmless_Venom
I considered moving the scythe to the left hand and have the high hand hold that bundle of three heads that plague bearers come with aloft.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Methnerd
Vladimir saves the day again.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Methnerd
Thanks ladd!

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Cool base for Mortarion?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@PurpleCharger
No user.

That's the BEST base for Mortarion

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@PurpleCharger
Why would Mortarian kill Alpharius?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@PurpleCharger
The idea of that is cool and all, but it's not really done very well. Not trying to be a dick but it looks pretty sloppy which takes away from it, for me at least.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Nude_Bikergirl
He kept repeating shitty memes

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Harmless_Venom
Changing it for a fist should help with that a lot, one of the hands clutching a weapon from the Blightlord kit just with the weapon cut off should work for that.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Do successor chapters get access to their parent chapter's warlord traits?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@VisualMaster
WTF are you talking about.

Also that is not that big guys....the forge world blood thirster is not much smaller than a warhound.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

With the Imperium reeling from the disastrous effects of the Great Rift, Mars commands all forge worlds to ramp up production to unprecedented levels. They churn through raw materials and servitors as never before, and vast armadas are launched to strip entire star systems of resources. The forges must be fed at impossible rates in order to supply the endless war materiel required.

entire star systems

Wowshit, that's a lot of tin men. If this is sustainable for long I can see why they out-attrition the Tyranids on occasion.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@happy_sad
Yes

Evilember
Evilember

@Deadlyinx
Thanks, I am running red scorpions as UM chapter tactics and like the look of their warlord trait.

Iron resolve was my backup

SniperGod
SniperGod

@PurpleCharger
Sword should be extinguished.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Artist?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I think this video fits perfectly with Scions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRMUYpH7bQk

Any other anons with other videos from different media or vydia that fit different factions / races? (there is most probably something zerg or starship troopers that also describes nids in a cool way out there)

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Garbage Can Lid
what a strange piece of bait this is

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Garbage Can Lid
This is bait

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Lord_Tryzalot
@haveahappyday
Sorry guys I didnt see the filename kek,thanks

idontknow
idontknow

@Garbage Can Lid
chris lingley

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Methnerd
Thanks based Putin

Flameblow
Flameblow

Anyone use drop pods at all? Or are they all in the bin

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Evilember
I am running red scorpions
parent chapter's warlord traits
Stimulated by Pain is not a very good warlord traits, sadly.
But hey, the "Flawless Perfection" chapter traits is pretty good.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Apparently in their AGM, Games Workshop want to attract females to the hobby.

I hope they don't pander to SJWs and release plastic sister when CSM, Tau and imperial guard have such ancient models.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@ZeroReborn
release plastic sister when CSM, Tau and imperial guard have such ancient models.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@ZeroReborn
actually trying to twist plastic sisters into some kind of SJW narrative
Oh fuck off.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Flameblow
CM, Veteran with Plasma + Storm Shield + Company Ancient is quite a cheesy combo.

farquit
farquit

@Need_TLC
The only HQ that really works for breachers is Darkstrider. I wish my fireblade could help them, but he can't.

askme
askme

@SniperWish
Yes I am aware of the EC heritage, which is why I like them fluff-wise.

I am just talking table top crunch though for the moment

Emberfire
Emberfire

@ZeroReborn
Isn't there anything else you could be doing with your time?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@PurpleCharger
Lol I hope you didn't pay for a Bobby G model just to use it as a base prop

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Flameblow

Rhinos are cheaper, and can bull into shooty units forcing them to lose a turn of shooting after delivering their cargo.

Razorbacks are pretty great with twin assault cannons, that they also transport 6 dudes is just a bonus.

And Stormravens are pretty great too. Hell, they can act as a drop pod and a luscius drop pod at the same time, all whilst being a powerful flyer that would be strong even without transport capacity.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@StrangeWizard
Tau
Ancient models
Yeah, I guess all of our HQs and some of the sniper drones are still finecast, or whatever.
We just got new fire warriors, crisis suits, and commanders like two years ago, not to mention the actual new kits.

I mean, if they give me new models, I won't bitch (probably) but there are armies out there that have gotten less love.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Harmless_Venom
@Emberburn
Roughly like this
Sadly I forgot how I recolored his armour so well the first time

FastChef
FastChef

@askme
Iron Warriors and Imperial Fists, and Raven Guard and Alpha Legion both share the same tactics.

I will have zero problem to play against a loyalist with the EC legion tactics (or any others). It makes sense fluffwise too.

But hey, that's just me.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@BinaryMan
That's quite good, actually.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Flameblow
I decommissioned all three of my Drop Pods. I run my different Sternguard Squads in Rhinos and Razorbacks now. My Character transport is now the Rhino Primaris. Drop Pods lack the durability and firepower to be worth their points.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@FastChef
Can't wait for my breachers to be able to fire their pulse blasters in combat.

Methshot
Methshot

@BinaryMan
that's like really good

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Scaling down the same technologies that allow them to shift
Titans through the warp, the Tech-Priests of Lucius are mastering the art of battlefield teleportation
can not teleport Imperial Knights
Or they can?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@VisualMaster
He'll be as big as a Knight but with hueg wings. they'll probably fold them, though. Mortarion and Magnus are hard enough to transport without them being as big as Knights.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Grey Knights players: Bringing a very small GK detachment to support my IG. 2 Paladin squads, one 3-man and one 5-man; Apothecary, and Paladin Ancient. I'm looking to avoid a named character, but I haven't settled on which HQ is best. Not running an NDK GM due to issues of storage space.

Grand Master or Brother Captain for a small GK support detachment?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Tell me about your recent games tg. How did they go? Did you have fun?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@kizzmybutt
No, it's not. These three things are vague as fuck and does not define communism very well

If anything, the tau are some kind of völkisch(without the agri/environmental thing) and fascist mix as they possess a rigid hierarchy, though not aristocratic at all

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@TurtleCat
He'll be as big as a Knight

He'll be Mortarion sized.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Why tf is typhus' trim a different color than the rest of the new DG?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Wraith host completed. I'll stop posting updates now. Now I've finished this lot I have no motivation to paint anything else. Was gonna do a little work on Russ.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Lunatick
He technically has his own warband so there's that.

farquit
farquit

What's the best way to kill a Warlord Battle Titan that doesn't involve other LOWs?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Lunatick
I was also wondering this. I'm going to paint him the same as the rest of my army.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Garbage Can Lid
Good job, user!

askme
askme

@farquit
Mortal wounds

Bidwell
Bidwell

And AdMech is still the only faction without access to fucking transports....

iluvmen
iluvmen

@MPmaster
This has nothing to do with castes

Playboyize
Playboyize

@haveahappyday
Im doing the same but Im just gonna turn the trim silver instead of gold

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@farquit

Equal amount of points of malefic lords.

Techpill
Techpill

@Bidwell
Someday, someday...

TreeEater
TreeEater

@StrangeWizard
Came back from an all nighter with the lads actually.
We did a little tournament and I brought my Krieg, won the first round against Tau quite narrowly, deepstrike suits is difficult to deal with when they're suddenly in your face but a number of unlucky misses on my opponent's side let me win the day.
Round 2 was against Ynnari and we had a genuine comedy gold moment when my Stormlord went nuclear and took out half the board along with it.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Garbage Can Lid
Nice, user. Hopefully they will be awesome when your Codex gets released.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Garbage Can Lid

might want to wash that yellow with something to bring out the details, but still commendable work neatly getting all your models colored. You're already better than 90% of people in this hobby.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Admech codex blows away all the forge world 30k mechanicum fluff

ahahahahahahahahaha FW btfo confirmed not canon

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@StrangeWizard
My last game was a couple months ago.

I intentionally played poorly to get it to end faster. Turns out I don't actually like 8th at all.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@StrangeWizard
Played my 2000 points Genestealer list I posted last thread against some space marine burg with two predators, four units of devastators, three units of termis, a librarian and a chaplain.
Can't really say it was a fun fight, but I did win since I destroyed everything but three units of devastators and the predators and had more points.

FastChef
FastChef

@Lunatick
Typhus does what he wants.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

so, like, how long after release are books generally on the MEGA? Bit pissed off that geedubs shipped my preorder today. Like thanks, mate, but how about doing like every other company and shipping to try and get it to people by release? I could have just popped into a store today...

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Is 4 squads of 7 Plague Marines too many? 2 squads with Plasma guns, 2 with Blight launchers, fist and plasma on each champ

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@SniperWish
If that's greenstuff he's a pretty good sculptor.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@DeathDog
How?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@eGremlin
grandmaster ina dread knight everytime

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Techpill
As much as I think the Triaros looks like sex, it's gonna end up being a land raider which still doesn't help too much.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@GoogleCat
I'd stick with 3x7 to leave points for other ntis an dto stich with nurgle's numbers

girlDog
girlDog

@Fried_Sushi
Like I said, don't have the storage space in the case I'll be using, nor is bringing another case an option. I've managed to make everything fit in one surprisingly tiny case and have room for maybe two more Terminators.

farquit
farquit

@askme
Mortal wounds
Don't work, void shield protect agains MW.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Spazyfool
Might be a flawed chinacast.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@happy_sad
True. Hell, that's a pretty good idea.

Techpill
Techpill

@FastChef
Believe me I want as much EC as possible but I don't want to break rules lol

Methshot
Methshot

@DeathDog

What?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@happy_sad
Looks like an ebay find to me.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@GoogleCat
Why miss out on the 2 extra blight launchers from putting the spillover into a new unit?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Crazy_Nice
Well if they follow the old rules it's still going to be a 20 man land raider.

There's also the other cheapo land raider.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Dreamworx

FW
Skitarii are purely the soldiers of mars, nobody else used them
Secutarii guard titans
Forge Worlds follow a feudal system called taghmatas, which are nonstandardized and contain all sorts of bizarre stuff

GW
Every forge world used skitarii, it's the only type of soldier the mechanicus used, and kastelans are the only pattern of robot used
1st Company Skitarii guard titans
Every forge world was standardized, all used the same tactics and units listed in the codex in 30k as they do in 40k

FastChef
FastChef

@Snarelure
@Sharpcharm
@SomethingNew
Cheers lads, ye hopefully craftworlds get a little bit of a boost with the codex.
@farquit
Quad las tarantulas. As many as you can buy.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@farquit

Then you are not throwing enough MWs

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Emberfire
30k Mechanicus is SO much better than the 40k.
Art-deco>Barouque hodgepodge

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@askme
@Gigastrength
I suppose it gets past hitting and wounding, but as @farquit
pointed out, WBT has a 3+++(+?) against MW (degrading).

happy_sad
happy_sad

@SniperGod
FW Mechanicum

GW Ad Mechanicus
it's a diference.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Ignoramus

And 4k points of malefic lord would average over 250 MW / turn if in smite range. Even considering the void shields, this oneshots the titan.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Flameblow
this.

Everyone should be using Deathworld Forest as a basecoat, not the new Death Guard Green.

Inmate
Inmate

So got a couple ideas for my first army.

Word Bearers with cultists and demons
Snake bite orkz made from feral orkz and iron jaws bits
Carcharodons space marine force

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Inmate
Go for Word Bearers

RumChicken
RumChicken

@SniperGod
Wow the GW lore sounds terrible.
Especially since I love my crazy murder robots.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@FastChef
Let's see, each Tarantula is 10pts bodycost, 40 for the twin lascannon, meaning you can get 80 for the WBT's cost. Which comes out to 31 wounds against the WBT for 4k points of Tarantulas in one turn of shooting, without taking into account degradation.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Inmate
All p gay desu

Booteefool
Booteefool

Anyone have a mega link for the Cadia Stands book?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@SniperGod
Mechanicum isn't Adeptus Mechanicus. There has been a huge restructuring (that had imperial leaders really scared that Mars was gonna basically claim independence.) And it's been 10.000 years. Shit's different now, dog.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@SniperGod
Every forge world used skitarii, it's the only type of soldier the mechanicus used, and kastelans are the only pattern of robot used
>>1st Company Skitarii guard titans

Those are 40k lore, user. They changed over the years, since there's explicit reference to the other bloop patterns being rare now. Where the hell did you get "were all standardized" from, since it talks about all the mental shit they have and Voss Prime's thing is being unusually similar to Mars?
Only real change is different FWs still having their own Skittles in the Heresy, which may well have been the usual Mechanicum Protectors and Martian emissaries we knew existed already before evolving into FW forces as the Mech organize into the Admech.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@lostmypassword

The codex does talk about skitarii fighting skitarii during the horus heresy, which would be impossible if every skitarii was under mars' command as FW said. And FW did change the lore when they invented their "Secutarii." GW just seems to be changing it back.

He is wrong though about the robots though, the FW robots are explicitly mentioned.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@SniperGod
and kastelans are the only pattern of robot used

That ins't true. The fluff says the robots from the Horus heresy are now very rare.

Bidwell
Bidwell

This is my RS list that I haven't filled out yet (don't have enough painted yet). What are y'alls thoughts on how I should fill it out?

It's a batallion and vanguard detachment, but I won't format it that way for readability.

HQ
Gravis Capt w/ artificer armor
Magister Sevrin Loth (Tigurius if opponent doesn't like FW) - warlord
Primaris Lt w/ Power Sword

Troops
2x 5 man intercessor squad w/ grenadeLauncher
Sarge w/ Power Sword

5 man Tac squad with plasgun
Sarge w/ Combi-plas + chainsword

DT
Razorback w/ Asscannon
Replusor (can provide loadout but it's long)

Heavy support
5 man Hellblaster squad w/ rapidfire 1 weapons

Elites
Primaris apothecary
Primaris ancient w/ Banner of Emprah
Aggressor Squad

Plan is to put librarian and tacs in the assback, aggressors + gravis capt + apothecary + lt in the repulsor and then escort the 3 primaris squads into rapid fire range

likme
likme

@BinaryMan
Mars was split too, there was massive infighting between Loyalist Skitarii/CultMech and the twisted Darkmech versions produced by Kelbor Hal and his allies. It would easily be possible for some of Kane's Skittles to have started full-scale war, since he WAS Fabricator-Locum.

I don't see much conflict here, there's enough room in the galaxy for all of it to be true SOMEWHERE.
Also, Forge Worlds are apparently badass enough that the Great Rift only destroyed seven or eight, despite slashing though a hundred thousand worlds and there being about one FW per 100 other systems.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

All these years later and still no models for Cyber-Hybrid Carnivores

Come the fuck on GW, give us weaponized cyborg-dinosaurs!.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Wow GW is coping FW organization schemes. "Cohort assets" etc
Almost like in HH books.

TechHater
TechHater

@idontknow
Isn't Angron supposed to be a giant bloodthirster, like titan size?

Epic Deamon Primarchs were on 25mm bases, so more like Knight Sized.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@TechHater
I'll never get over how gloriously hideous those are, coming from a fulgrim fan

whereismyname
whereismyname

Daemon Primarch Lorgar fucking when?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@StrangeWizard
played against a three knight list for my first 8th game, lost
played my deathwatch against some necrons next, also lost

Did have a ton of fun, though. Made me want to get a knight for myself real hardcore. Not to mention more ogryn.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@BunnyJinx
Mortarion's still holds up honestly.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@viagrandad
Take two Spartans.

8e is all about the alpha strike and a spartan throws out twice the firepower of a standard LR without costing anywhere near twice the points.

That in addition to more than double transport capacity and can still shoot even if assaulted.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Flameblow
His right arm is still permanently raised in an awkward position, though.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Fried_Sushi
He's kind of the only one. The thirster, keeper and LoC are still fucking gr8, tho.

idontknow
idontknow

@whereismyname

considering how often word bearers get shafted by GW as of late, likely never.

Their rules are so terrible, user, why would you play them in 40k?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Harmless_Venom
You'd need two other Lords of War, since Spartans are relics, and the exceptionto "no more relics than non-relics in a given slot" only applies if you have one relic LoW.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Methnerd

Is this legat?

WebTool
WebTool

@Methnerd
Legit?*

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Burnblaze
Well, it was less 'obligation' more like, additional options. Plus rule of cool. I've always loved both deep strikers and infiltrates. I have a feeling Stygies will be the best option of the Forgeworlds overall, without Cawl.

I suppose there's some merit to running two different dogmas in an army, under one banner. They are just rules, after all. Put the dragoons and anything that needs to Infiltrate into a stygies battalion and put anything you want to survive or deep strike in a Lucian one.

But that just feels cheesy to me.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@WebTool
Yes.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@idontknow

user they're my favorite legion. They're men of faith and conviction who spread the word of the gods to the masses. Plus I fucking love the gal vorback and the idea of daemon marine super troop even if they suck in the crunch.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@RumChicken
Can confirm on both links

eGremlin
eGremlin

Tau codex fucking when

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@eGremlin
Next year

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@New_Cliche
Blood Angels Codex this year or next?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@eGremlin
What was your list?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@viagrandad
One Spartan, cus it's cooler, plus fun to dump 20 guys plus a full support team out into someones face.

Honestly, Spartan is worse than a Storm Eagle anyway, in terms of 'that guy'-ness, but I still love them too

w8t4u
w8t4u

@New_Cliche
@Methshot
Thanks, I't just popped into my mind, also I remembered this old fellow

Bidwell
Bidwell

@VisualMaster

They are my favorite legion as well, but it feels absolutely awful getting the space-marine trinket-text rule 'and they shall know no fear' instead of an actual legion rule. Also with the nerfs to summoning, you're spending a lot of points for the option to unreliably deepstrike an ok unit; even if you get to pick it to suit your opponent, they're not that great.

Gal Vorbak are amazing in 30k, but in 40k they feel slightly overcosted, like almost everything from 30k in 40k. I still don't think 40k Posessed are worth it, since 1/3 of the time, they are only putting out 1 attack each, which puts them on par with your basic infantry- even if their attacks are stronger. Khorne Berzerkers feel like a better investment of points.

Inmate
Inmate

@TechHater
I love the old LoC and GUC. The former is a muscle wizard and the latter seems to be excited and full of energy.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@RumChicken
Thank you mate!

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

As a mostly melee army, what's the best way to deal with people being pussies and running away all the time? Everyone runs away, or uses their transports to interrupt the melee unit. What's the best way to counter that? Artillery? Deepstriking units?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@LuckyDusty
Ironically, this is similar to the situation with other factions, like Space Marines.

If you're not taking Ultramarines, and thus Guilieman, than Raven Guard is the best probably.

Without a big character comparable at the moment, Alpha Legion is the best for Chaos.

-1 to shooting past 12" is really damn good, and infiltrate is amazing.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Bidwell
I feel like giving them 1+1d3 attacks would have done so much for their usefulness. And/or giving them the option to buy wings.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Dreamworx
Never

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@SniperGod
30K - 40K user, about 10,000 years between em, big changes happen

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Garbage Can Lid
Yowza, great progress from last night, bro. Just the deets left.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@CouchChiller
big changes happen

What GW is saying is that NO changes happened (beyond the robots). Same organization, same units, same everything. 30k = 40k in GW's world.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Is this Night Lords art official?

What's with the 'Viiii' on his knee? Is that the 40k version of Reeee?

That's a pretty cool reference if so.

farquit
farquit

@King_Martha
Fuck off cancer

Flameblow
Flameblow

@PurpleCharger
Lol why would the sword still be on fire? How is his head clean of flesh when his torso is full of guts?

Also looks pretty thick.

WebTool
WebTool

@GoogleCat

Why not 4x5?

3 special weapons each

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Blightlord termie box is $50
They're basically Cataphractii Termies with optional flail and rocket launcher

Would anyone care if I just fielded Cataphractii as Blightlords? Not every model in my Death Guard has to be a fat fuck.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@CouchChiller
Why pick Death Guard if you don't like how they look?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@CouchChiller
Make sure you convert them properly.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Harmless_Venom

Because termie spam is my joint.

Methshot
Methshot

Are hazard stripe chainswords heretical?

@Soft_member
Noice

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Where can I buy a Moonman model?

Firespawn
Firespawn

guardanon from the last thread, the one asking for help making something that's NOT going to win basically every game. Here's what I currently run at 1500 pts(I've yet to play 2000, but I have a baneblade to push up to that.)

BATTALION
HQ:
Creed(Warlord with +leadership trait)
Commissar Lord - With Power Sword and Plasma Pistol

Troops
Conscripts x20
Infantry - chainsword sergeant, voxcaster, plasma gun, 7x lasgun
Infantry - chainsword sergeant, voxcaster, plasma gun, 7x lasgun

SPEARHEAD
HQ:
Knight-Commander Pask: In leman russ battle tank with lascannon, heavy bolters, heavy stubber
Heavy Support:
Leman Russ: lascannon, heavy bolters, heavy stubber
Leman Russ: lascannon, heavy bolters, heavy stubber
Heavy Weapons Squad: 2x lascannon, 1x heavy bolter
Heavy Weapons Squad: 2x lascannon, 1x heavy bolter
Wyvern: heavy flamer

VANGUARD:
HQ
Company Commander: Plasma Pistol
ELITES:
Callidus Assassin
Vindicare Assassin
Colour Sergeant Kell
Ordnance Commander
Command Squad - 4x Plasma Gun

General tactics: Keep all the guardsmen blobbed, deepstrike vindicare and callidus to snipe out HQs and bubbles, keep wyvern and russes in the very back, not moving, in order to just snipe out everything

Like I said last thread, I'm looking for tactics that remain fair. I use all the named characters mostly because that's what I have. I'm still pretty limited in what I have access to. Aside from what I have listed, I have a chimaera left to build, more footslogging infantry, and a lot of different special weapons, as well as conversions to turn the battle tanks into demolishers. My locals is pretty diverse, ranging from marines and CSMs to eldar, nids, genestealers, and orks, as well as a SoB player, some chaos daemons, and a DE player.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@iluvmen
Play Horus Heresy instead?
Or Deathwing.
Or Grey Knights.
Or if you want Chaos then Thousand Sons even.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

My Brothers in Midnight Clad, what have you been finding success in running in 8th?

FastChef
FastChef

@Sharpcharm
It's part of the burning chariot kit.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@RavySnake

Hard to play HH when no one plays HH.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@BunnyJinx
Fair point, still why not the other termie spam armies?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I cut myself again lads

How often do you lads injure yourselves?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Stark_Naked

Because I already have over 50 termies in my Blood Ravens Astartes army, I wanted to play Death Guard for a change, and if I wanted to play TS then I would just spam flamers and rhinos and leave out the termies.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Methshot
No, hazard stripes were common for everyone in the older editions, then the Iron Warriors had to put them everywhere to warn others of their autism. Luckily, hazard stripes are becoming mainstream again.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Evil_kitten
not since I stopped using a knife to build my models.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

A cultist with an auto-pistol shot down a Corvus Blackstar.

Defend this shit 8thfags.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Rate cult marines, anons

Chosen
Rubricae
Berserkers
Noislets
Plague Marines

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Bidwell
How the fuck do you manage that?

WebTool
WebTool

@Gigastrength
Hero of chaos. Deserves promotion to champion.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@iluvmen
Ok. I also like terminators so I see where you are coming from.

DeathDog
DeathDog

DG FAQ when ? I want to know if I'll be able to feild winged daemon princes and at what cost.

TechHater
TechHater

@Emberfire
Berserkers
Plague Marines (In MSUs)
Noiselets
Rubrics
Power Gap
Chosen

FastChef
FastChef

@viagrandad
Well then, Grey Knights would still seem like the more sensible decision, if you don't like the look of Death Guard.

Still if you are going to get Death Guard, buy the Forge World models and run them as their 40k equivalents (Grave Wardens as Blightlords, Deathshroud is self explanatory).
They're either the same cost or cheaper per model anyway.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@SniperWish
I use cutters, and a moldline remover to get rid of the flash.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Gigastrength
He shot down a completely intact blackstar himself with no softening up?

Should have armored the intakes.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Garbage Can Lid
I know this, and I hate it. I don't like Cawl's model really, and I like to be different than the default army for the faction I'm playing. I was originally going to do Metalica, because I liked their colors, but they got the worst rules in the book.

So I'm stuck with Stygies or Lucius, and I imagine anyone without Cawl will instantly pick Stygies. Maybe I'm just being a snowflake. I am painting my dudes in grey/white robes. That's not very stealthy.

I dunno.

askme
askme

@Emberfire
theme, power, aesthetics?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Emberfire
Asethetics wise:
Rubrics > Chosen (DV) > Plagues > Berzerkers > Chosen (generic) > Noise Marines.

If they all has new models It'd probably be more like:
Rubrics > Noise Marines > Berzerkers > Chosen > Plagues

Methnerd
Methnerd

@SomethingNew
Sweet. Gonna put them on some of these hos

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Harmless_Venom
Last wound, but still.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Illusionz
Is the GW moldline remover worth it?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@SniperGod
Nope, use a knife.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@King_Martha
I like to be different than the default army for the faction I'm playing. I was originally going to do Metalica, because I liked their colors, but they got the worst rules in the book.
I know this feel. I initially wanted to go with Word Bearers for the colours until they got shafted by the legion rules. Ended up going with Emperor's children since noise marines sounded pretty cool. The pink and purple colours eventually grew on me.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Do kataphron Breachers have a role now that they're 10ppm cheaper and have 3 attacks?

FastChef
FastChef

@SniperGod
It's solid metal and saves me dripping blood on my models.

works great for shaving off moldlines and getting rid of flash too.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Snarelure
Heavy weapons wrecked armour, his shot was lucky, went though a hole and tore open a fuel line/pilot/latteral control system.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Snarelure
cockpit was cracked from previous damage
lucky shot kills the pilots
its pretty cool when you think about it

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@SniperGod
Buy normal tools it's much cheaper.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Harmless_Venom
Why pick Death Guard if you don't like how they look?

The rules, also you could do heresy era death guard that have few if not no mutations yet.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@SniperGod

Not really. Hardly any modern GW kits have noticable mould lines and what you will find a hobby knife and emery board should cover.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Snarelure
tfw my archon killed a baneblade in melee

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@AwesomeTucker
No because why would you put them in melee to begin with.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@AwesomeTucker
I'm going to be trying them as cover-campers in a stygies VIII force. I figure T5, 2+, with -1 to hit should take some effort to kill.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@DeathDog
just use the pts from the chaos space marine codex.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@King_Martha
stygies don't use physical camouflage to stealth, they use countermeasures and shit.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@SniperGod
If you're
a) a klutz
or
b) a lefty

Yes.
As a lefty I spend 2/3ds of my work time re-tightening the blade on my craft knife when removing mold lines.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Garbage Can Lid
If you are picking an army just for rules in 40k you are playing the wrong game

Firespawn
Firespawn

@SniperGod
its really good at what its supposed to do, so if you feel you need a dedicated tool to remove mold lines go for it.

you can have the same results with a knife/scalpel, but it requires more precision to use so you don't cut into the model.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Snarelure
If you say so. But you shouldn't take a game so seriously.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Methnerd
Thanks putin

Supergrass
Supergrass

Questions on the yncarne;

If i teleport it to a dead units location and then it gets to make a soulburst action, can it use that action to charge? Or does the teleport inhibit it?

If i use another units soulburst to charge after it kills everyone in combat, does it get to fight the unit it charges? Or does it just lock them down til next turn?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Snarelure
You misunderstand. I'm playing the army I like regardless. They just gave me two options I both like.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

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Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Snarelure
Here ya go.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@SniperGod
I like it more than a knife, saves the edge on your knife and impossible to accidentally dig too deep while scraping or

takes2long
takes2long

Now that the codex and a few kits are out, what would be the best way to expand the Dark Imperium Death Guard army?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@takes2long
plague crawlers are needed to give them proper anti-tank.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@takes2long
Wait for the Roombas

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Evil_kitten
By being a normie. Only edgelords cut themselves.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@cum2soon
tfw admech and nids are basically two takes on the same concept

Bidwell
Bidwell

@WebTool
Not praising Nurgle with your force organization

It's like you want to be a Chaos Spawn.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@lostmypassword
@Poker_Star

Adding Blighthauler and the First Strike Plague Boys & Poxwalkers, the starter set becomes a cool 1001 points. Thanks! Moving up to 1500, more poxwalker chaff/Blightlords?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Stupidasole
Prob a pair of plagueburst crawlers with entropic cannons for heavy fire support.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@GoogleCat
Explain.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Playboyize
I used that as as my hellbrute, with a little conversion.

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