Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

New Primaris Tank Edition. Meet the Astraeus.

Astraeus Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipHvgqhB1vA

Article on the Astraeus
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/05/celebrate-30-years-of-warhammer-40000-top-5-squigsgw-homepage-post-3/

GW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata#40k-errata

FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Downloads#warhammer40k

Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations
https://mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA

Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
Old Black Library Mega
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q

WIP Math-hammer doc (Thanks Chart-Anon!)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing

Imperial Guard codex (thanks anons)
epub
https://mega.nz/#!lfR2RL4Q!Hgfv6ah0Q_lo90V4VMpZ79fVhu3erKCTR8SQ-5lGJVc
pdf
https://mega.nz/#!30pVCIzI!weouWfwAWkijYm0EhBaLe2_aVc0FErVOcszvwmMCc7o

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipHvgqhB1vA
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/05/celebrate-30-years-of-warhammer-40000-top-5-squigsgw-homepage-post-3/
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata#40k-errata
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Downloads#warhammer40k
https://mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
https://mega.nz/#!lfR2RL4Q!Hgfv6ah0Q_lo90V4VMpZ79fVhu3erKCTR8SQ-5lGJVc
https://mega.nz/#!30pVCIzI!weouWfwAWkijYm0EhBaLe2_aVc0FErVOcszvwmMCc7o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta41xU-tkFA
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gZU9r74w3cVfe0-7wC7_HyANokK1lD-i1-qvicsrojQ/edit
ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

First for Sisters of Battle

JunkTop
JunkTop

Endure the hate, my brothers. Hold the line.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Gork>Mork

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

/tg/thread/55830904#p55833601
I'd have to sit a melee squad or two in them, along with bringing them as the 'anti-tank' options, barring Combi-spam, but I think that being able to deep strike would handle most initial movement problems.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Stupidasole
'SCUSE ME, YOU GIT, WOT DID YA JUST ZOGGIN' SAY?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@New_Cliche
Fuck you blandposter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta41xU-tkFA

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Female space marines when?

FastChef
FastChef

@JunkTop
I've seen a copy of Chapter Approved.

I want you to know that your happiness will be short lived.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@ZeroReborn
You need to leave.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Anyone have Watchers of the Throne?
I've looked through the megas linked and don't see it

girlDog
girlDog

@FastChef
Please don't be b8. Also, what other stuff can we expect from Chapter Approved aside from being an FAQ we have to pay for?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I assume the best loadout for the Hellforged Leviathan is twin Butcher Cannon Arrays?

Grav and Soulburner both seem good in a vacuum but this cunt is so expensive I don't want to be obligated to march him into melta/assault range.

askme
askme

@Soft_member
You heard me, bet you care about going fast over krumpin. Youse a grot

TreeEater
TreeEater

@JunkTop
she's jealous because she has no purity seals

Skullbone
Skullbone

@JunkTop
No.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@TreeEater
purity seals don't come easy in the fluff

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Carnalpleasure
the absolute size of it
Guys... I think being a heretic might have been a bad idea.

WebTool
WebTool

@JunkTop
What's the issue?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@girlDog
Probably a lot of narrative play stuff and expanding the "advanced rules" stuff in the back of the rulebook. They've have said there will be some sort of Vehicle Design rules.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Carnalpleasure
I feel like the new tank doesn't have enough guns if it's just for shooting and has no carrying capacity what so ever. it's got what, 5 or 6 guns? most of which are just las or plasma cannons? What's all that space for, just the big gun that's been shown to be able to be mounted on the much smaller sicarian?
It seems like a lot of wasted space?

Also, is each of the barrells for the big gun 12 shots for a total of 24 or is it 6 each for a total of 2? because if it's the latter, that seems quite lame

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@askme
AWRITE, YOU'Z ASKIN' FER IT, I'Z COMIN' OVER THERE AN' I'Z GONNA SHOW YA THE LIGHT O' MORK

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Skullbone
sisters don't currently have any banners or books
just JUST my life

Lunatick
Lunatick

@FastChef
What, they rescinding Grinding advance or something?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@ZeroReborn
Munitorum sends the hair dye intended for SoBs to the nearby Catachan regiment instead of their camo-paint.

massdebater
massdebater

@Stupidasole
Metal Canoness has a book. For banners there are Imagifiers and there is also is an OOP Sisters banner bearer.

likme
likme

@CouchChiller
Also, is each of the barrells for the big gun 12 shots for a total of 24 or is it 6 each for a total of 2? because if it's the latter, that seems quite lame
Get the old twin linked wrapons out of your brain. Forget about it completely. They are now single different weapons from their nontwin that have their profile. This tank was birthed in 8e

It is 12 shots total.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@FastChef
Why, oh why can't IG have a good time for once?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@StonedTime
They've have said there will be some sort of Vehicle Design rules.
it's a make your own land raider thing. Which is great for marines of all types, and useless for everyone else. But it's just a test for future stuff, so I guess we'll see more in the future if it works?
Not that I care, since I play marines. I do wonder how it will work though. Will it just be "take a selection of guns and configure it how you want" or will we get choices for modifying stats and giving it special rules and the like. I hope it's the latter. I also hope we can put volcano cannons on their, I want to make a titan hunting land riader

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@massdebater
yeah i can glue whatever i like on my models but that doesn't mean they have any rules

Spamalot
Spamalot

@likme
I don't think you get what I'm saying. The community page said
The macro-accelerator cannons are particularly powerful, firing 12 shots with -2 AP and 3 Damage apiece!
it's the use of "cannons" and "apiece" that confuses me, are they saying that each cannon fires 12 shots apiece, of that the entire system, for which the war-gear name is the plural "cannons" fires 12 shots total? The use of the plural "are" would indicate the subject, the cannons, is in fact plural, so that it's 24 shot total, but that's disputed by the very logic you mentioned

Soft_member
Soft_member

@PackManBrainlure
Not taking two sponsons of two Hurrican Bolters and a Storm bolter on top, for a grand total Rapid Fire 26.

I really would love it if Predators could take Hurricane Bolter Sponsons

Bidwell
Bidwell

Wait for the relics from your codex then.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Spamalot
and 3 damage apiece.
I think that's what they're going for.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@ZeroReborn
We all know whose biggest is best. And Gork is bigger than Mork. So Gork is the boss. And Mork mucks about with being sneaky, going fast and grot like behaviour. Youse a grot

Evilember
Evilember

@Garbage Can Lid
So they all look like members of Gorgoroth?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@CouchChiller
It’s got it’s pretty good turret, two macro plasmas/flamers and a Twin lascannon. It also has an invul which is a big deal.

It’s about baneblade/shadowsword tier

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Aaarrrrrhgghhhhh

Do your duty! Please! End it!

Aarrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhh!!!

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Spamalot
"apiece" tells you it's 12 per gun. 24 total. Pretty clear.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@hairygrape
GOOD LUKK GITTIN' TO A RITE PROPA FITE 'ITHOUT A BIGMEK. CUZ WE ALL KNO' DEM ODDBOYZ ARE MORK'S CHOWSEN

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Evilember
Confused Emperor's Children flee in terror

Lunatick
Lunatick

@ZeroReborn
Preach it, sistah !

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Carnalpleasure

A clearer pic of it

5mileys
5mileys

@Carnalpleasure
Space Marines get an entirely new army
Death guard become a stand alone army
Admech get nothing
IG get nothing

massdebater
massdebater

@PurpleCharger
You are worse than rollfags and cheetafag combined.

idontknow
idontknow

@Fried_Sushi
There's literally rules for banners and books

likme
likme

@Lunatick

I never understood why people like this awful, boring show

Firespawn
Firespawn

@idontknow
what am i missing?

WebTool
WebTool

@Soft_member
not taking the terminus ultra chasis for two twin asscannon sponsons, 2 regular ass cannon sponsons with a mega bolter turret for heavy 56 S6 AP-1 shots
you are like little babby
@iluvmen
That makes sense. Though that's kind of shitty that it's that much bigger and all it gets is 4 more shots and one better AP and Damage than the regular one. It really seems kind of lack luster for being devoted entirely to shooting when it's basically a quad las pred with a better sicarain gun ducktaped on. I think it should really be more of a mobile fortress, with a fuck ton of guns.

TechHater
TechHater

@massdebater
I am a rollfag.

Cheetahfag is a cool khorne bro.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Ignoramus
All dem big letters because youse is a grot IRL. Mekboyz will do what they are told or get krumped.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Ignoramus
SEE DIS ONE GETS IT, 'CEPT 'E'S ALL LIKE "MEKBOYZ, GUBBINZ, OOH PRANCY NANCY"

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@5mileys
We have everything we need. Name a roll we haven't got covered! I don't want our codexes crammed with unnecessary or redundant units like the SM's is.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@5mileys
IG get nothing
most powerful codex by far
but fluffy rules than anyone else
nothing
stupid fucking WAACfag. You truly are the new tau. Fuck off

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Firespawn
Well the banner would just be an Imagifier. Not sure what he thinks the book does mechanically.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Firespawn
A Codex

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

How fucked am I by choosing Grey Knights as my first army?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Illusionz
How else does she learn that 4 wounds are better than 1?

5mileys
5mileys

@Ignoramus
OK
So ad mech
I want my troops to ride in some transport.

cum2soon
cum2soon

/tg/thread/55830904#p55833483

Do YOU even play gard ? It's a parking lot list, no one on foot is the rule of thumb here.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Illusionz
simulacrum imperialises are the bones/relics of a saint. that's not a banner

#notmysimulacrum

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Boy_vs_Girl
The one cool unit you like is probably outclassed by something else.

Methshot
Methshot

@WebTool
not taking the terminus ultra chasis for two twin asscannon sponsons, 2 regular ass cannon sponsons with a mega bolter turret for heavy 56 S6 AP-1 shots

So long as Chronus can be my gunner

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Boy_vs_Girl

Depends what you bought so far.

If you answered anything except draigo and dreadknights, super fucked.

Evilember
Evilember

@CouchChiller
Clearly it's designed for area denial: placenit on an objective and no one can get within 3" because the model's too big!

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Spamalot
They are buffed up autocannons, having them shoot 12 times each would be way too much. I do agree that the tank itself is a bit lame. Basically the weaponry of a land raider + the full potential of a predator autocannon with 1 better ap. It not being a transport doesn´t help desu and if it´s going to move as much as the repulsor it better have 2+ armour or be cheap, otherwise I don´t see the point in it.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Boy_vs_Girl
Fine. They're moderately strong, and being a super-elite army simplifies their play in a lot of ways.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Nojokur

Calm your tits, he obviously was talking about models. IG have gone longest of all the factions without a model update, even Sisters got Celestine.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Spazyfool
i don't get it

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@FastChef
please be true, local bandwagoner is running a list with guilliman, celestine and guard

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Why is such bad writer as ADB considered one of best Black Library writers?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@w8t4u
Tell that to GW.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@FastChef
Saying nothing whatsoever
Trust me guys I'm user
MFW

girlDog
girlDog

@StrangeWizard
Don't most tournaments ban the 《IMPERIUM》 keyword?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@TreeEater
for once
what was 5th edition
IG fags are the worst WAACfags because they literally can't hold back. They're pure cancer pretending to be fun and fluffy.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@VisualMaster
Either a liar or an idiot

w8t4u
w8t4u

@5mileys
Admech get nothing

At this point I think they've made "No transports allowed" a cardinal rule for you guys. I'm almost surprised it's not a special faction rule.

"Because Reasons"
Admech units may never embark on a transport fuk u!"

idontknow
idontknow

@TechHater
cheetahfag
bro

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@girlDog
No

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Stark_Naked
He isn't just the most prolific.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Garbage Can Lid
@StrangeWizard
@TreeEater
@Lunatick
@iluvmen
@girlDog

Excellent.

Evilember
Evilember

@GoogleCat
Oh, it's you again.

I need you to identify the direct object, the supporting adjectives, and the subordinate clause in the next 6 seconds or your English mastery certificate is revoked.

DeathDog
DeathDog

First time making a 2000 point list. Does this look viable?

TechHater
TechHater

@w8t4u
"No transports allowed" a cardinal rule for you guys. I'm almost surprised it's not a special faction rule

DO YOU WANT TO ANGER YOUR LEG'S MACHINE SPIRIT? I DIDN'T CUT OFF YOUR WEAK AND FLESHY LEGS AND REPLACE THEM WITH GLORIOUS ROBO-LEGS FOR YOU TO SIT ON A GOD. DAMN. BUS.

FastChef
FastChef

Looking to get into Dark Eldar. Are the poisoned weapons as bad as they seem? They seem bad.
I like how much S8 AP 4 I get though. That's neat. Thoughts?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Carnalpleasure
So the price of this gonna be atleast 300 pounds, right?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Playboyize
"GW is going under, I've been in the company for more than two decades and am eyes and ears on the inside"

"LOL YOU FAGGOTS BELIEVED ME WHAT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS"

Except you're more of a faggot for baiting with something actually believable

Lunatick
Lunatick

@ZeroReborn
You have the same shitty taste as I have! Are you me?!

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Lunatick
What a hideous regiment.

takes2long
takes2long

since I got some decent feedback last thread.

I've created a home brew full Eldar Corsair codex. complete with tactics, traits, relics, and strategems, as well as bringing back the unit and options from 7th edition.

If your a corsair fan and mad that FW squatted your army, check this out. Feel free to mock.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gZU9r74w3cVfe0-7wC7_HyANokK1lD-i1-qvicsrojQ/edit

iluvmen
iluvmen

Shining spears look really fun to use, how unplayable are they?

Techpill
Techpill

@Lunatick
!?
that picture
Stop user, even the picture the other user posted was better.

Methshot
Methshot

@Evilember
not him

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Lunatick
IDK if it's the models or just your painting skills (I think it's both), but this really looks like garbage.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Lunatick
Those things are no sisters, and they are lazily painted to boot. Shame on you.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@w8t4u
Well, we can blink onto people's heads Turn 1 now, which is absurdly risky but at least it's something.
Hopefully FoC will give us something nice, or else CApproved will cut the price on a few infantry or give them Scout or something. Fat chance of the latter, though. We've used up our "getting new shit for two years" credit on the garbage codex.

RavySnake
RavySnake

ive been off the grid for two weeks

any word on the nid codex?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Lunatick
Anita Sarkeesian's CIS hunters

TechHater
TechHater

@Carnalpleasure

No transport capacity

I no longer give a fuck about it.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@iluvmen
for me it's the shit models that make them unplayable as sad as it is

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@RavySnake
Pre-order on Nov. 4th. Release a week later.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@takes2long
home brew full Eldar Corsair codex
Uhh

complete with tactics, traits, relics, and strategems
In proud of you user. It's got to be hard going out into the world with this level of autism

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Their plagiarism knows no bounds

Booteefool
Booteefool

@RavySnake
11th of November
@iluvmen
Shining Spears are actually some of Eldars best units but truly "shine" in Ynnari when grouped with Yncarne

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@StrangeWizard
guilliman super heavy.jpg

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@AwesomeTucker
Any rumours about changes? I just want my new big bugs to be good

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Burnblaze
@Methnerd
@Lunatick
They need a wash. And another color to break up the armor.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Sir_Gallonhead
Nope. Just a picture of the release date.

likme
likme

@Carnalpleasure
Astraeus

More like ass 'Straya.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Any T'au drones for dummies guide? I have something like 15 of them right now and no idea what I am doing

Playboyize
Playboyize

And i thought that 5th edition fluff was biggest downgrade possible.
8th ed proved me wrong.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Booteefool
Shining Spears are actually some of Eldars best units but truly "shine" in Ynnari when grouped with Yncarne
Not that user, but. What does the Yncarne do for spears specifically that he doesn't do for other models, or generic "being ynnari" doesn't do for them?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Playboyize
but of course you do not care to explain because why would a bait post do that

DeathDog
DeathDog

@RavySnake
There's a new start collecting box coming :
x1 Trygon
x1 genestealer broodlord
x8 genestealers

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@MPmaster
Yep indeed, they need to be finished.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Playboyize
Is this a Necrons whine?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@lostmypassword
Get as many as points will allow aside from 4 fusion commanders and 2-3x10 vespid so you have any chance of ever winning games

Booteefool
Booteefool

@DeathDog
so a trygon prime hq? like leman russ commanders and gk knights?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Playboyize
What the fuck are you crying about now?

girlDog
girlDog

So I have been messing around with a Thunderhawk in 2k, does this look good on paper?\

The main gimmick is to have the generic grand master follow around the Thunderhawk with Gate and cast Sanctuary on it.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@AwesomeTucker
Necrons are so whiny

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@RavySnake
5th ed we got Draigo, OP Calgar, Swarmlord etc.
8th ed we got Guillman bringed to life by eldar, necrons dying from plagues, Mechanicus magos older than Imperium iitself, new marines better than ones created by Emperor, in fact full legion of them in new shiny armour with new shiny weapons in new shinny tanks which look like taken from star craft

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@FastChef
Poison is bad

What makes you think its bad? Wounds Mortarion on a 4+, you get shit loads of it. Itd be nice if there was a version that gave -ap but c'est la vie.

Id say for your list the big squad should have a splinter cannon if youre dead set on raiders.

Maybe something like

Patrol detachment

Archon blaster agoniser

10 warriors splintercannon
10 warriors splintercannon

5 Trueborn 4 blasters

3 reavers blaster grav talon
3 reavers blaster grav talon

Raider dark lance
Raider dark lance
Raider dark lance

Archon rides with trueborn, plenty of splinter weapons, you only lose 1 blaster and gain 12 poison shots AND this list is battleforged so you get 3CP.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Do you think they have harvest festivals on agri planets?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@girlDog
Well, besides the fact you are taking a Super Heavy in 2k and using an Elite army on top of it why not just go all in and switch Voldus for Draigo.

In order to do that you drop an Acolyte from each squad.

Your list hits something hard then just turns into when can my opponent kill my Tunderhawk. If they can't then you just jack off until they die.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Booteefool
Broodlords are now HQ with synapse.
But yeah, it makes 2 HQ then.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Why the fuck are fire raptors like 100 points?
Don't just reply with FW

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@viagrandad
A low model count army that melts to any anti-armor tech. What are you talking bout?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Carnalpleasure
That thing is disgusting and will cost £200.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@lostmypassword
gun drones are great

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Dreamworx
oh. nvm

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@StrangeWizard
I wish it was something like rolling 6+ to wound with poisons added AP or 1 extra damage.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@ZeroReborn
Nignogs of Battle more like it.
Fucking nasty.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Dreamworx
@Booteefool
Trygon prime HQ?
How could that ever be useful?
We don't need any more fucking HQ choices we have so many shitty ones that are over shadowed by the to-be nerfed malanthrope and the ever so slightly better than average broodlord

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@GoogleCat
new marines better than ones created by Emperor
implying the emperors marines are in anyway perfect

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@girlDog
Why would that be fair when you can run <chaos>?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@CouchChiller
You seem to be missing the point my bucko

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Deadlyinx

Itd be way too strong with how much poison we have. Poison is fine honestly, anything the codex adds (reroll hits with splinter racks, reroll wounds of 1 with certain kabal, wounds on 3s stratagem) will be a bonus.

Btw the list i made comes to 930ish points before you start buying blast pistols on sergeants and agonisers/phantasm launchers.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@WebTool
You're the issue.
Kill self.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@ZeroReborn
chimps cant be space marines

happy_sad
happy_sad

@New_Cliche
What is the point? The new marines are better get over it

takes2long
takes2long

@Need_TLC
They're not.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@TreeEater
nurglite living piece of shit being in charge of mocking the holly human form
Pathetic.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Evil_kitten
Space marine are already apes tho.

Techpill
Techpill

@eGremlin
Wyvern
Ogryn

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Crazy_Nice
A low model count army that relies on armor saves in an edition where AP is too available, deep striking is a clunky death trap, has absolutely HORRID special and heavy weapon options and can only ever be viable while attached to an IG regiment unless you're playing against THE most retarded opponent that hasn't played the game before. NDK are absolute garbage as well. You only ever see a GK terminator librarian in competitive lists for a reason. The rest of the army is so, so, so underwhelming. Oh and fuck psybolts I guess? Who needed psybolts?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@GoogleCat
8th ed we got Guillman bringed to life by eldar,
that was 7th, and guillman being able to be brought back has been hinted at since 2nd edition.
necrons dying from plagues,
Magic plauges, but yeah that's pretty dumb. Far from the dumbest thing ever added to the lore by far though.
Mechanicus magos older than Imperium iitself,
What on earth is wrong with that? Magos can live a long time.
new marines better than ones created by Emperor,
To be technical, that's only because they're still the result of the emperor's work. it's marines with primarch bits. It's just combining things the emperor made to make something better. Even then they don't compare to the custodes or primarchs, which are the real examples of the emperor's mastery of genecrafting. Marines were never the best he could do, just the mass production model

Evilember
Evilember

@TreeEater

Not loving everybody
Nurgle

Quit being a little faggot.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@CouchChiller
It's more that an OC Dought Steel character comes out of no where.

Especially when (for example) we have a Chaos Character, Fabilous Bill. Whose entire SHTICK is he's trying to make better Marines for 10,000 years and barely made progress.

It would almost be as bad if a OC came out of nowhere and magically reversed the Rubric of Ahriman without even trying.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Carnalpleasure

Why is that picture so dark? GW should be better at lighting.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Deadlyinx
yeah but marines have IQs that are at least slightly above literal retard level

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@takes2long
They're like 130 points arent they?

JunkTop
JunkTop

So anons.

For a stupid Gimmick list made of Cataprachtii Termanators, how badly would I get my ass kicked?

2k Points
Vanguard Detachment 1
1x Cata-Captain, Power Sword (Burning Blade), Combi-Bolter

3x Cataphractii Termanator squads of 6 terminators of the following Composition

1 Sarge w/ Harness, Lighting Claws
1 w/ Chainfist, Combi-Bolter
1 w/ Heavy Flamer, Lightning Claw
3x Combi-Bolter, Lightning Claws

2nd Detachment
Terminator Librarian (Force Axe, Storm Bolter)

2x Squads of the following
1x Sergeant w/ Grenade harness/ Lightning Claws
4x Terminators w/ Power Fist and Combi Bolters
1x Terminator w/ Heavy Flamer and Power fist

One squad like the above but one terminator rocking a chain fist/combi bolter.

comes out to 1995.

Obvious issue is that I'd have one/two squads that would need to start in cover in my deployment before everything else drops in and the second issue is the lack of movement, along with ranged anti-armor

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@GoogleCat
It should say "I'm you but stupidly expensive, barely any anti-tank and my only transport is a discount land raider covered in guns!

How do SM players even work with these guys? I got 2 brigades at 1000 points and these guys are still fielding patrols!

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@SniperGod
Just wait till cawl figures out the secret to fem marines user.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@StrangeWizard
The transformation is just the robot standing up

Lamest transforming tank ever

Lunatick
Lunatick

@SniperWish
Malanthrope is getting nerfed
Where did you hear this?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Evil_kitten
That s not a space marine.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@New_Cliche
I might just end it right there and then.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@GoogleCat
Not posting cutest version

farquit
farquit

@CouchChiller
Is that before or after they swear loyalty to a corpse?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Crazy_Nice
so that ape was supposed to be female?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Need_TLC
250 without MANDATORY weapons

Playboyize
Playboyize

@farquit
adb please

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Boy_vs_Girl
Very fucked, as always. GKs have always suffered for being an extremely elite army, without the perks of unit flexibility that come with other elite armies like SMs.
The codex was very much needed, but sadly doesnt really give us all the tools we need to be a fully fledged, well-rounded army.
As it currently stands, we are relatively monobuild in our tactics, namely, live or die by the alphastrike. In my games, that means win-lose has pretty much always come down to my opponent, and never too me. If my opponent was smart and bubblewrapped his shit, I'd get my shit smashed in, and wouldnt be able to do anything about it. On the other hand, if he ever left an opening for deepstrikes, no matter how small, it literally became me curbstomping him and tabling him by T3 or T4.
I hope somebody figures out another way to play them, cause I'm kinda getting boree out of my mind at this point. Ive been experimenting with different setups that dont rely on deepstrikes, but they've been mostly unsucsessful.

HOWEVER.
WE are the Grey Knights.
WE are the sons of the Emperor.
And YOU are a BOSS for playing Greay Knights.
The only thing that really matters when playing GKs is that you make them yourdudes fighting against overwhelming odds.
Also, dont be a faggot. Dont use fucking dreadknights.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@StrangeWizard
Poison vs Primarch
Excellent value and DPS!
Poison vs Marines
Reliable and decent cost
Poison vs Guardsmen
my entire army is ruined!

Techpill
Techpill

@Crazy_Nice
You right.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@GoogleCat
@GoogleCat
necrons dying from plagues
Sentient rust

Firespawn
Firespawn

@ZeroReborn
Any advice for running sisters? I'm going to be in a 2000pt tourney with them this saturday. What are the best units to use acts of faith on?

WebTool
WebTool

@girlDog
plasma pistol + stormbolter
thunderhawk
Are you retarded?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Firespawn
Celestine.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Emberburn
Also Lucius possessing Necron after killed by it.

FastChef
FastChef

@iluvmen
Is it an ape or a chimp? Does your questioning of what the Emperor allows mean you've already turned to heresy?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@iluvmen
She is obviously a black woman, user. And she's pretty cute too. You're scum, on the other hand.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@hairygrape
@Need_TLC
418 with the bare minimum.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

So I tried to build a 1000pts list with models I already have - Start Collecting box, Optimised Pathfinder Team, Fireblade, Broadside and a box of FW. Is it okay for casual games? I don't really want to buy anything more right now but I can still rearrange weapons and drones.

T'au squad [58 PL, 999pts]
Battalion Detachment +3CP (T'au Empire)

HQ
Cadre Fireblade: Markerlight
Ethereal: Honour blade, Hover Drone

Troops
Strike Team: 2x MV1 Gun Drone
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Pulse pistol, Pulse rifle
. 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle
Strike Team: 2x MV1 Gun Drone
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Pulse pistol, Pulse rifle
. 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle
Strike Team: 2x MV1 Gun Drone
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Pulse pistol, Pulse rifle
. 9x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

Elites
XV8 Crisis Battlesuits: 6x MV1 Gun Drone
. Crisis Shas'ui: 3x Flamer
. Crisis Shas'ui: 3x Flamer
. Crisis Shas'vre: 3x Flamer

Fast Attack
Pathfinder Team: MV31 Pulse Accelerator Drone
. 4x Pathfinder: 4x Markerlight
. Pathfinder Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse pistol
Pathfinder Team
. 4x Pathfinder: 4x Markerlight
. Pathfinder Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse pistol

Heavy Support
XV88 Broadside Battlesuits: 2x MV8 Missile Drone
. Broadside Shas'vre: 2x Smart missile system, Heavy rail rifle, Target lock

Dedicated Transport
TY7 Devilfish: 2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst cannon

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@DeathDog
Cause the Necron FELT pride

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@JunkTop
she

King_Martha
King_Martha

@DeathDog
What type of Necron was it?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Dreamworx
Yes.

farquit
farquit

@iluvmen
She is a SoB so she'll be about as useful as an ape either way.

5mileys
5mileys

@WebTool
The Acolytes are just bullet sponges for Corteaz.

If they are Ordo Malleus which they probably will be unless I am facing Xenos (haven't yet) I get a free Overwatch so I want guns that can shoot alot/hard.

Explain what makes me retarded about wanting to use a Thunderhawk, I got it as a gift and I felt I should use it.

takes2long
takes2long

Are Plague Spitters viable on the Plagueburst cralwer?

It seems like a bit of a contradiction, the main gun is 12"-48", as in it has a minimum range.

While the spitters have a 9" range, basically flamers. So it creates a dead zone. And its a tank without fly, so if you get charged you will basically be out of shooting for a turn.

However they are pretty good... 2d6 shots with Str 7/6/5. Lowish movement at 9/6/4, however they are assault weapons so you can ignore your other guns which are gonna be pretty crappy anyway having moved, hitting on 5s or 6s and focus on flamers.

Not sure its worth it though, its a cheap and tough platform... but probably better to run entropy cannons? Though they are BS4 Dark Lances... which is meh in itself.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@5mileys
CORTEZ is a crimson fist marine
COTEAZ is an inquisitor

idontknow
idontknow

@Firespawn
Stormbolters are awesome.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Anyone tried kitbashing Tempestus Scions with Cadian Hostile Environment sets?

Looking for a paratrooper look, any other tips?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@farquit
Do not bully the Sisters. They are a valued and important part of the Imperium.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@FastChef
chimps are apes you mong

WebTool
WebTool

@idontknow
@BlogWobbles
Should I use any detachments that aren't SoB? I've got a guillman I can throw in.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Spazyfool
But have no soul

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@5mileys
so I want guns that can shoot alot/hard.
Can't shoot Pistols and NON Pistols at the same time.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@WebTool
No. Don't be that guy.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@takes2long
Stick with the entropy cannons and heavy slugger. The crawler is supposed to be a backline artillery tank. Plus in chaos you have access to a ton of reroll-1s character auras to help out with the bs.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@iluvmen
and it's fucking pronounced COTEEZ.
NOT codiez.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Deadlyinx

Yep, for chaff like that you send in the +1 attack bloodbrides and make sure you pass the 4+ entrapment.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@BinaryMan
literally anything is on the table for me for this tournament. I've got to teach some of the waacfags a lesson about their behavior.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@BlogWobbles
Pride was the connection, souls are meaningless when it ends up being devoured by Lucius' curse, in this case Lucius simply gained a new body but not a new soul to his collection.

At this point Lucius is probably addicted to dying.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Skullbone
shouldve been squatted

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Carnalpleasure
When you run out of ideas for new tanks so you take an older model and strap some anti-gravity modules and slightly larger guns on it

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Raving_Cute
if you lose the first or couple first rounds you won't see those well playing waacfags again in that tourney

King_Martha
King_Martha

@farquit
I can't believe this shitty attitude of yours. They have feelings too, you know? ________ :^) ____

Spamalot
Spamalot

Reposting in case Corsairfag is still here.
/tg/thread/55830904#p55831320
Webway Maze is still gay as fuck. It effectively reads "automatically destroy target slow and short-ranged unit."

Warp Blink either needs the "move enemy models" effect pushed to a much higher Warp Charge or removed outright.

<Coterie> keywords should have to match across the detachment. I legitimately don't know why you think it's okay for them to mix and match their <Chapter Tactics/Legion/Forgeworld/Regiment> across the army.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@iluvmen
My bad.

@LuckyDusty
I am aware it is one or the other, but being able to choose between one or the other seems decent.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@PurpleCharger
tons of reroll 1s on DG.

Y-yeah.

Hurts though... either Daemon Prince who is a melee powerhouse who loves to run forward (contradicting what a backline tank does) or a generic Chaos Lord (Who is T4, has no DR and has no model).

I plan on creating such a generic lord anyway, giving him a warlord trait to allow rerolls of all plague weapon wounds and maybe a relic to increase his reroll 1 aura... still, its annoying.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Raving_Cute
Oh. In that case, bring Girlyman for sure, and stack up as much melta as you can.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@StrangeWizard
Not bad, little too much low STR shots though

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Lunatick
An educated guess being that it's admittedly severely undercosted.
It'll get a price bump but adaptation will be better than providing your tyranid detachment fucking reroll 1's to hit. Not sure who came up with that rule cause half the army already does so with scytals. With that rule buffed hormagaunt sled teams with a mal in tow will be horrifying.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Sir_Gallonhead
When you run out of ideas for new tanks so you take an older model and strap some X modules and Y guns on it

The complete history of Astartes, IG and Eldar vehicle design.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Carnalpleasure
How are you dealing with those Commies, anons?

WebTool
WebTool

@MPmaster
not just giving your first round opponent a bye
not finding like minded individuals and playing each other off the record for the first round while your WAAC opponents wonder where the person they were matched with went

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Emberburn
It's not undercosted at all. It's an extremely fragile unit that dies when a stiff breeze touches it.

FastChef
FastChef

@StrangeWizard
Flamers on Crisis Suits suck bro, Suits can Deep Strike, and after Deep Striking Flamers are out of range. Plasma or Fusion all the way. If you want to be a WAAC fag, run the Suits as Commanders - DS + BS2 and all the rest of the Tau bullshit.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Skullbone
nope, me and my squad have an ecclesiarchal writ for bullying

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Flameblow
40k
commies
nani ?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Flameblow
unless I'm missing something, he doesn't on average kill a commissar with each shot.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@WebTool
paying for not playing a round

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Flameblow
This made me laugh before even reading it

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@JunkTop
SLAANESHI HERETICS ! OPEN FIRE !

5mileys
5mileys

tfw no power scythe DG relic

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Dreamworx
playing like minded individuals
not playing

paying to play unenjoyable WAACfags

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@cum2soon
slap a combi-plasma on a Lord of Contagion
DG chaos lord

This is what I'm doing.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@ZeroReborn
It's 9 wounds that gives -1 to hit to units within 3 inches for 90 points how is that not undercosted?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Sir_Gallonhead
I like how this could apply to both Forgeworld and Cawl.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Gigastrength
*including itself

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Evilember
Saying this shit when the Purge exists.
There are plenty of nurgle worshippers who are hateful of life and malevolently destructive. Stop being retarded.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Is a Land Speeder with Typhoon and Multi-Metal worthed? Planning on playing a squad of 2 with this set up

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@w8t4u
Holly human form
Can't even spell holy... Thinks he's worthy to judge divine beauty.
user. Stop.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@w8t4u
holly

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Gigastrength
It has no combat capabilities whatsoever and will die the instant it is alone. Besides, we went through this whole song and dance back when people kept saying the FAQ would change the points cost when it changed the PL instead.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@w8t4u
human

whereismyname
whereismyname

@BinaryMan
I figured moonman would've worshiped Khorne.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@CouchChiller
This guy gets it.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@GoogleCat
Legit the only thing I've seen primaris be dangerous with is spammed hellblasters. And even then, BA do that better with company veterans with jump packs plasma guns and storm shields (I use neither of these, but I have seen the fucking insanity of the BA thing at 1000 points).

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Carnalpleasure
Massively simplifying the rules so that you can fight bigger battles faster but then adding these huge models that actually make the battles smaller makes no sense.

They really need to bring back some more advanced rules for using these huge models (and them fighting each other) to make the game interesting otherwise youre going to be just plinking away at this tonk without much happening other than a wound counter going down.

Basically introduce a minigame for superheavies vs superheavies into the game.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@takes2long
See
@Spamalot

Spamalot
Spamalot

@GoogleCat
Short for commissar
@Stupidasole
The joke is one of them can do up to 4 wounds on a hit, and the fluff has them going straight through tanks and pulping the people withing like railguns. Even Servitors have more sense of humour.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Poker_Star
Won't work IMO.

Lord of Contagion is a chunky guy in Terminator Armour.

Lord is a T4 dude with Power Armour.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@BinaryMan
Maybe he meant humans really love Christmas.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@takes2long

ahahahaha faggot nobody's gonna play your shitty homebrew

idontknow
idontknow

@CouchChiller
Good thing she's a sister then. ______:)

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@StrangeWizard
implying malanthrope need combat capabilities
implying malanthrope are ever without a screen
oh so you're new

Techpill
Techpill

@LuckyDusty
I'm just confused as to what the fuck it's so big for.
It's not some mobile fortress like the mastadon, it's barely more armed than regular marine tanks or super heavies (and if it's not 24 shots then the guns themselves aren't that impressive either) and it doesn't even transport anything. What the fuck is it so big for?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@SniperGod
It would almost be as bad if a OC came out of nowhere and magically reversed the Rubric of Ahriman without even trying.
user...

Skullbone
Skullbone

@ZeroReborn
m-m is really expensive for a unit that would want to stay back with its other gun

RumChicken
RumChicken

@eGremlin
But that's wrong though.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Stupidasole
youz = git
how'd ya like dis math, ey?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I love this lore behind the 4th Plague Company of the Death Guard.

Thoughts on how to embody that on the tabletop and lists?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@PackManBrainlure
that is so fucking hot

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Crazy_Nice

Oh god, ANOTHER minigame for vehicle fighting? Did you not see the abomination that was dogfighting towards the end of 7e, which was essentially another game playing on top of the table which bogged down the game?

At 40k's scale, it should be 15mm. For superheavies, it needs to be taken to 6mm where the rules are abstracted enough for such huge fights to be possible.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

*Teleport behind you and shoot 25 S3 shots at your heavy weapon teams*

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Evil_kitten
Clearly thats a Chaos Lord in Terminator Armor. I figured that would be pretty straight forward.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@takes2long
you cool, bro, this stuff is great. Don`t listen those retarded

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Boy_vs_Girl
I'm joining Grey Knights with my Catachans.

Van Detachment:
Dreadknight Grandmaster
Brother-Captain

Paladin Ancient
Purifiers
Purifiers

Battalion Detachment
Straken
Company Commander
Primaris Psyker

Commissar
Ogryn Bodyguard
Ogryn Bodyguard
Priest

Conscripts
Infantry Squad
Infantry Squad

Hellhound
Hellhound

Leman Russ Demolisher
Wyvern
Wyvern

Dreadknight Grandmaster is the Warlord with First Into the Fray. Drops in and they all either Purge Soul/Vortex of Doom/Sanctuary or Smite depending on the target. Then cut off the head of the enemy force if possible. Dealing with Morty and Maggie at the moment.

CO has Kurov's Aquila for CP shenanigans.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@SniperGod
it's canon now that cawl was there with emps making the actual first marines

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@whereismyname
You'd figure he'd be an Imperial honestly. Someone should make an Inquisitor Moon Man now.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Evil_kitten
Then convert one, use the plague champion or a plague marine model as the baseline if you need to.

5mileys
5mileys

@GoogleCat
25 S3 shots

Wow im so scared.

@New_Cliche
Why put a guy in Terminator armour for your backline? Seems a waste of points.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Need_TLC
What, really? I didn’t read any of gathering storm

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@GoogleCat
*loses one unit*

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Snarelure

Fnp, fearless, potentially reroll 1s and soulburst. Maybe they benefit the yncarne by being good for proccing soul burst.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@JunkTop
Beastiality is illegal.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@w8t4u

It's part of the new admech codex. Belisarius Cawl was the one who invented the Black Carapace. He worked directly with the Emperor to invent the first Space Marines.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@w8t4u
Read it just so you can read Dark imperium which is really good.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@takes2long

Can you make it downloadable? Or you waiting til its fully amended.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@BunnyJinx
15mm is shit, the game just needs to go back to 3E army sizes. 1 HQ, 20 troops, 5 devs, 5 termies, a RB, and a dread or pred

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@ZeroReborn
Don't Nurgle Lords cause Mortal wounds on proximity and such? Bring sorcerers/plaguecasters and you got it. Maybe summon stuff too, if you believe "fluffy" means "gimping yourself".

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Skullbone
Ugh, so I should go for one or the other? Damn, since I would like to play mostly Primaris I really dont know where to put my anti vehicle stuff.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@happy_sad
I've already converted one guy but /40kg/ hated it.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@SniperGod
Cawl had access to primarch organs, was there when the emperor first made the marines, actually had access to the marine blueprints and the resources of the mechincum. And it's a long established fact that marines aren't even close to the best the emperor could have made, they're his answer to the problem "I need a couple million super soldiers and I need them yesterday"
Bill on the other hand is a retard who relies on scraps to do his work, has apparently no understanding of basic human biology since he thinks women are better soldiers than men, and also doesn't praise the ommnisiah.
In short you and bill can get fucked.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@5mileys
This, I regularly use 10 combi plasma slaaneshinators, or if I want to be stupid on high volume fire 20 noise marines. Thats a lotta dakka.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@w8t4u
it's admech codex. he was a pleb back then but he was in the labs

Illusionz
Illusionz

@takes2long
I run mine with the plaguespitters because there are a lot of people at my LGS who like to deep strike and fly/disembark into your backlines.
Having the dual plaguespitters ready to slosh them has been very useful.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@5mileys
That is such a WAAC statement I don't even know what to respond

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Gigastrength
The fact that it doesn't have combat capabilities is why it's points cannot be increased without rendering it completely useless. At that point you're better off taking Primes. The fact that it needs a screen in the first place already makes the assumption that you're bringing in large point blobs to have it supplement them. It is a perfectly balanced unit as it stands.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@CodeBuns

Not the user who made it but its actually decent and gives us corsair players back all the stuff we lost.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Deadlyinx
Only if the horse presents charges ;^)

Spamalot
Spamalot

@AwesomeTucker
that's how i feel. not because of army synergy but because land speeders are weak

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Harmless_Venom
Or the Emperor does it first.

girlDog
girlDog

@SniperGod
It would almost be as bad if an OC came out of nowhere and magically reversed the Rubric of Ahriman without even trying.
Didn't Yvraine and the Yncarne do exactly that to fuck with Ahriman in FoBT?

takes2long
takes2long

@PurpleCharger
Who gives a flying fuckass. Did you like it? Could you do better? Is it distinct from your regular plaguies? If all of the above. Use it and have fun. Just sure anyone you game with is aware of the minis nature.
Fuck man, I use the Horus mini as my Abaddon, because fuck everyone else, that mini is cool.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@takes2long
I use the Horus mini as my Abaddon
Fitting

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Techpill
Same here. First time I saw it I assumed it was, well, a primaris transport. Turns out it's not even that. I´ve just seen the starts of a fellblade and it can´t be compared. I doubt it has 2+ armour ad the void shields sound op until you realize SM have a stratagem that literally does the same thing...

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Fried_Sushi
The shots or the termie. If the former. Wut? if the latter, yeah, kinda daft, but having a power armor lord in the backline isn't too crazy, it feels a touch a waste for beefinator man to be babysitting the artillery.

RavySnake
RavySnake

I'm thinking about adding an AdMech Vanguard Detachment to my spess mehreen army.

It would have :

(HQ) 1 Enginseer

(Elites) 1 Cybernitica Datasmith, 2x5 Sicarian Infiltrators.

(Heavy Support) 2x Kastelan Robots, the shooty kind.

What do you think ?

WebTool
WebTool

@Carnalpleasure
Any one else got MGS3 flashbacks?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Dreamworx
(you)

FastChef
FastChef

@Evil_kitten
Just use the standalone Plague champ with the nurgling as a lord.
Or the Plague champ from the DI box with the cloak.
Or the Plague champ from the new PM box.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Lunatick
Holy fuck wash and highlight your model, im tired of looking at these boring basecoated shits. Doesnt help that the female head sculpt is the worse on the market yet faggots still buy it.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Carnalpleasure
ZOGGIN ECK! KAN WE LOOT IT YET BOSS? KAN WE? BOSS? I WANNA LOOT IT BOSS!

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Deadlyinx
Guess your dad broke the law, then.

whereismyname
whereismyname

/tg/thread/55830904#p55831372
Very difficult to reach and remove due to indirect fire and very reliably damaging. Catachan refills affected this, but they really put the hurt on my anti tank and vehicles with little I could do about it.
/tg/thread/55830904#p55833258
I would like to point out that while my guard bros new army lacks basing, aside from a brand new dreadnought my yellow men are based. We aren't uncivilized beasts over here.

Although if anyone has a good recommendation for jungly based for catachans I can recommend to him Id appreciate it. Not really sure what to suggest there outside of bushes+aquarium plants.

Also forgot to mention, fix bayonets+catachans is pretty good.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Spamalot
I always liked Land Speeders, I think they look cool, and I when I started during 7th edition this army my idea was around fast vehicles and stuff like that. To recreate a "fast, stealthy and deadly" army.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Methnerd
Ahhh, I misunderstood. I thought you were arguing the opposite; that they were very strong.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@girlDog
Didn't Yvraine and the Yncarne do exactly that to fuck with Ahriman in FoBT?
...yes...

farquit
farquit

Rate my 2k BRING THE SMITE Necrons list

Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Necrons)
HQ
Catacomb Command Barge
Tesla Cannon, Warscythe

Elites
C'Tan Shard of the Deceiver

Fast Attack
8x Canoptek Scarab Swarm
9x Canoptek Scarab Swarm

Heavy Support
Transcendent C'Tan
Transcendent C'Tan
Transcendent C'Tan
Transcendent C'Tan
Transcendent C'Tan
Transcendent C'Tan

w8t4u
w8t4u

@PurpleCharger
Pics? I'd love to see how other people approached it.

massdebater
massdebater

@New_Cliche
OOOOOHHHHH

hairygrape
hairygrape

@New_Cliche
@New_Cliche
@New_Cliche
@New_Cliche
@New_Cliche
[ ] Not told
[x] Told

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@New_Cliche
Fucking roasted.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@BunnyJinx
The problem is that a 2k game of standard 40k where your army is 20 dudes + a tank, and so is your opponent's army, is extremely boring under the current rules.
No tactics no nothing its literally my tank shoots your tank, your tank shoots my tank, lets throw dice at each other for an hour until one of our tanks goes to 0 and then shake hands.

It basically takes a major problem that blandK has right now and makes it ten times worse.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@farquit
Show me the C'Tans and ill rate the list

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@farquit
Keeping this many shards around in one place can only lead to bad things.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@PurpleCharger
Are you the guy who wrapped a log of greenstuff around a limited edition primaris captain?

WebTool
WebTool

@Crazy_Nice
better off taking primes
HHHAAAAAWWWWW

stopped reading there, just stop talking please

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@whereismyname
The two different scales of marines together looks terrible. I cant believe they got people to accept this being part of the "lore".

RumChicken
RumChicken

@New_Cliche
stop bullying the mulatto, goy.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

AAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGHHHH

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Illusionz
me too. at least before 8th you needed multiples of them so i didn't buy even one

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Emberburn
What makes me sad it that if it was a heavily armed primaris command center, that'd be awesome. Like a mini battle barge or something, with quite a few turrets with autocannons or heavy bolters or something along the sides of the back part and special rules to represent it giving out orders and shit (stuff like rerolls or better deep strike and the like) that'd be fucking awesome. I'd buy that in a heart beat, because it would be something new in terms of tanks that we haven't seem before for SM, and it looks somewhat like a battle barge's general shape, so it kindof of fits with the 40k look. As is, it's just pic related/ What possible purpose does it serve? It doesn't even have different main arrmaments, what's the actual advantage in fluff or crunch over just making more sicarians?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@CodeBuns
How else was it going to compare to primarchs?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@CodeBuns
Can I get one of these for valkyries along with the disembark rules?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@LuckyDusty
His army looks terrible period.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@WebTool
I don't know why I ever expected this to be a serious conversation.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@PackManBrainlure
Is it okay if I use these as count as?
I spent alot of time charging and.. Painting them

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Is Warhammer community site offline?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@CodeBuns
I love rape

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Gigastrength
Yes

Evilember
Evilember

@SniperWish
I'll spend the extra points for the fitting model any day.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Lunatick
Recess wash and edge highlight your fucking minis.

TechHater
TechHater

@Lunatick
that many redheads? truly the emperor protects.

But also get gud at painting

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Is the new tyranids SC a right way to start playing with nids? Is buying two of them a good idea? I thought about two of these boxes and two genestealers boxes to build three 10-men units for a battalion detachment. Would I fall to slow-melee list meme?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Any DGfriends around?

Tallyman Y/N?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Supergrass
Well, now I have just one. Maybe Ill take another Dreadnought with Lascannon to have some other anti vehicle. Even if the Las Pred its perfect for that role it doesnt fit with the theme that I would like to go with the army.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@StrangeWizard
no

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Evilember
Because the death guard has no power armored lords? Even the codex doesn't support that idea.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@CodeBuns
Why would you field so many genestealers

viagrandad
viagrandad

@5mileys
Mechanicus got all their models 2 years ago and got Cawl more recently, fuck off. Some armies haven't gotten anything new for much longer.

askme
askme

@SomethingNew
It stopped being a serious conversation as soon as you stepped in, your points for supporting an undercosted FW unit are on such shaky crumbling ground and the rest of your statements make absolutely no sense whatsoever. Who has ever, in their right mind, taken a tyranid prime? These hordes that you speak of that are screening the mal aren't hordes at all but are hive guard, exocrine and biovore. The troop choices for nids are pathetic to the point where termagant are only worth taking and even then their use is proliferated only by fielding a tervigon or a trygon prime when you bring devilgant with them.

Inmate
Inmate

@Sir_Gallonhead
Death Guard can take regular Chaos Lords you dildo

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Wtf why the primaris Librarian costs less than a normal librarian?? Can someone explain?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Boy_vs_Girl
better question, why field genestealers at all?
At 12ppm they're horribly optimized as a CQC unit.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Inmate
Thats what I was saying. That they can. The other guy implied they couldn't.

Evilember
Evilember

@viagrandad
It'd look way better if it wasn't two shades of yellow

WebTool
WebTool

@CodeBuns
piloted by the best tank crews the imperium has to offer
Bs 4+
Wow, so many points spent on a guns for a unit that can barely use them. I think I would rather just take two tank commanders for the same price.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Methnerd
why field genestealers at all

Illusionz
Illusionz

Rolled 1, 6, 2 = 9 (3d6)

@CodeBuns

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@GoogleCat
Primaris Marines are partly drafted from the Emperor's own work. Plus Cawl had like 10,000 years to work on them while the Emperor had like 100 to work on current marines.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Carnalpleasure

Looks like a GI Joe Toy. Just when GW was starting to get their shit together.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Boy_vs_Girl
They have a Flurry of Claws buff if the unit have 10+ models. Also battalion detachment requires at least 3 troop units

MPmaster
MPmaster

Rolled 6, 5, 6, 6, 5, 2, 6, 2, 3 = 41 (9d6)

@Illusionz

girlDog
girlDog

@Methnerd
Wait nid genestealers are 12ppm? My fucking cult genestealers are 15ppm.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Built the rest of my Skitarii Maniple, all but one Plasma Caliver I still need to buy.
Not pictured are another ten of both Vanguard and Rangers who need to be stripped with meths and repainted since they were My First Dudes, and a Dunecrawler that needs the same and some repairs since the nubs holding the weapon pod on broke off.

farquit
farquit

@Emberfire
Yes.

@w8t4u
@takes2long

Bidwell
Bidwell

Rolled 4, 6, 1 = 11 (3d6)

iluvmen
iluvmen

@askme
The troop choices for nids are pathetic to the point where termagant are only worth taking
What are Trousertakers
Now who's the one who doesn't know shit about Tyranids?

likme
likme

@Stupidasole
Arco-fag have 27D3 attacks in a unit of 9 models a priest for buff
Re roll to hit WS3+ S5, W2 and a 5++ save

GS are literally shit by comparison

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Spazyfool
But first Primaris were created shortly after heresy and they remember living Primarchs.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Rolled 1, 5, 5, 5, 2, 6, 1, 4, 2, 5, 4 = 40 (11d6)

@Bidwell

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@WebTool
Hmm? Sorry? I was checking the inventory. We have the extra ammunition you ordered.

Did you want to reroll all your hit rolls or just some of them?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@girlDog
Because they have access outflank which is just another way to get them obliterated before they can do anything
@Stupidasole
They're just too cost intensive. They don't ever make it to their destination at full strength and when they overkill whatever they charge IF they're at a strength to do so they just die the next turn.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Deadlyinx
you must be wrong then

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@farquit
Plus back.

I really like it desu.

I agree that it doesn't look that great when taken a picture of, but looks quite good when I'm holding it IMO.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

What the fuck is a power stabba and how do I model one?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@iluvmen
see
@TalkBomber
@likme
you fucking fool. Get a clue and stop trying to give your input.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@farquit
Oh thats yours huh. I don't hate it but I feel the tentacle could use some work. Looks really "Fresh" like it either just grew or it's giblets from the guy he just plasma'd
@Evil_kitten
you're going to regret fully assembling them like that. trust me.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@likme
You think that a bug player would care about what your army men can do once he assaults them straight out of a Trygon's tunnel with 20 stealers ?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@farquit
Next time try to chose a models that'll actually work for the job ins stead of wasting two kits to accomplish less than nothing.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Carnalpleasure
Move, you idiot! You're messing up the auspex display!

How else is shadowsword-senpai going to get +1 to hit if our surveyors aren't working!?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Methnerd

Played a game yesterday vs nids who took 2× 14 man squads of stealers with a patriarch and he rolled a 5 and 6 for their ambush. They did a good job getting first blood on 1 ravager and severly wounding 2 ravagers, after id failed to land any of their lances because of the -1 to hit malanthrope surrounded by gaunts tervigons and a mucalid(?).

I never managed to clear them off the board but he conceded turn 4 as id ran off with the relic and slaughtered everything but the stealers and mawlocs

Soft_member
Soft_member

@TalkBomber
Purestrain Genestealers are bad
Okay, I'm with you h-

Genestealers are also bad
You're actually retarded.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@farquit
@Ignoramus
I hate this 100% because of its concept

Bidwell
Bidwell

@farquit
@Ignoramus
Looks quite cool, the armour paint job is neat. Should have done something about the remaining imperium bits though.

Inmate
Inmate

@Stupidasole

This is the official one.

Though personally I also use the axes with power cables on them because fucking hell GW why the fuck can't we take power axes.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Stupidasole
I think one of the bitz that come with boyz or nobz that looks like a harpoon surgically attached to his army is the power stabba. Honestly though it's not worth it because it doesn't give the +1 attack like the choppa or the strength or damage bonus of the Big Choppa.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@viagrandad
Shut up, you have two HQ, two Heavy and two Fast attack. What else do you want?!
Things.
CYRAXUS NOOOOOOOW

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Soft_member
It's true. The best way to field genestealers is not at all, instead just running their big brother.
CQC nid armies are dead.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Dreamworx
implying GSC are not shit tier right now
It was just a comparison. The amount of shit GS need to pull an effective charge is silly when other armies throw away melee units are better

StonedTime
StonedTime

@CodeBuns
You should try something new, user. It hasn't been funny in a while now.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Nojokur
You've already exposed your bait, stop trying to dangle your rod in the water.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Stupidasole
Itz a stabba wif powa innit.
The "official" bit is the harpoon bionic from the nob sprue

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@farquit

i seriously don't understand the hate, it's clearly got a lordly profile and you can tell it's been recently corrupted

only issue is the tentacle, but honestly it's better than the fucking ancient GW chaos lord models, so props to you user

FastChef
FastChef

@Emberburn
Dear god.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Inmate
OI! DAT'S NOT A POWER STABBA! DAT'S A BIONIK ARPOON!

Nojokur
Nojokur

Should I run 4 night lords hellforged contemptors with claw+butcher cannon so they all have some melee capability or should I run a dorito dread or two for the butcher arrays?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Emberburn
@LuckyDusty
Is this some sort of new meme?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Inmate
Powas stabbas are stupid, should have been powa choppas, +1s -2AP.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Emberburn
Are you retarded, or just shitposting?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Lunatick

GW rules team
Giving any shits about Ork rules

Pick 1 and only 1

girlDog
girlDog

@farquit
tfw ctan powers aren't psychic powers and you end up dying to an actual smite spam list because you cant deny

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Carnalpleasure
Honestly bringing the 30k range to the Mechanicus would solve every problem they got.

It has vehicles, transports, more robuts of various kind and even a flyer. Also they are some of the best ever looking models produced by GW/FW

likme
likme

@LuckyDusty
step one : Trygon on board
step two : stealers next to him
stem 3 : OMNOMNOMNOM

This sure sounds complicated !
You are retarded, and have never played tyranids in your entire life.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Nojokur
butcher arrays

Why not take a Leviathan if you want to go this route.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Garbage Can Lid
being this triggered

kek

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Carnalpleasure
Dorito cheaper?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Emberburn
CQC Nid armies are dead
This was way too obvious.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@farquit
Wait I remember this. Didn't you have some god awful backstory about how It's actually a cultist fused to his nervous system or some shit? I think more people hated the shitty background for it more than the model it'self

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Fuzzy_Logic
Primaris Librarian (93 Pts) + Force Sword (12 Pts) = 105 Pts
Librarian (93 Pts) + Force Stave (14 Pts) = 107 Pts
???

JunkTop
JunkTop

@likme
GS are troops and not elites. Are cheaper, move more and can advance and charge in the same turn. They have better base ap and also have 5++. And they don't need extra characters for more attacks. Arcos may be better if you roll good with the attacks but they are not that much better

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Bidwell
Agreed. Wish Breachers were killier, though.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@ZeroReborn
Nah it was mostly complaining about the green stuff and complaining about how its a 'limited edition model'.

Still though, I'm surprised by how little I've cared about the /40kg/ hate for it. I put in a good chunk of time and effort to make that guy and I'm happy with it.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@CodeBuns
You could probably use a "looted" one as a Killblasta.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Two CWE SC boxes (the old one and the new one) are nearly enough for a 1k pts - it can be filled with weapon options. Should I swap anything for something else? I don't need a competitive army - the 40k community is really small here so people are playing mainly casual games so I just want an army that will not get auto-tabled

Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [51 PL, 944pts]

+ HQ +
Farseer
Farseer Skyrunner

+ Elite +
5x Wraithguard, Wraithcannon

+ Fast Attack +
3x Windrider - Twin Shuriken Catapults: 3x Twin Shuriken Catapult

+ Heavy Support +
Fire Prism: Twin Shuriken Catapult
War Walker: Shuriken Cannon, Shuriken Cannon
Wraithlord: Shuriken Catapult, Shuriken Catapult

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

People saying genestealers are a good dependable CQC unit clearly only play against space marine armies older than they are. Against an intelligent opponent with a thoroughly thought out army they never make it to combat in number, even if succeeding are only around to kill whatever they charged and nothing more.

TechHater
TechHater

@likme
implying you can deploy the bug in the first place

I thought the day of "faction internet defense force" were long gone

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Reecius providing some great advice for Ork players once again

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

How does SftS and seize the intiative interact?

I would think that during deployment you dedicate units to use SftS, then after seize but before the turn begins you get to place your dudes.

This means you get to place your SftS units with absolute knowledge of who is going to take the first turn.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@MPmaster
It's probably the "Genestealers aren't real Nids" guy.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Emberburn
W-what?
I'm confused now.
My nids have been doing decently well in 8th. I run a twenty man brood of Stealers in a Trygon tunnel, and use a Swarmlord to push them once they get out.

Its worked pretty well until now, the only game I lost was against necrons, because I rolled like 30 to 40 ones on my hit rolls and somehow failed to kill 20 warriors with 80 genestealer attacks buffed by a broodlord. (And then he reanimated like 17 of them)

farquit
farquit

@TechHater
implying implications

viagrandad
viagrandad

@AwesomeTucker
Mega

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Lunatick
For what it's worth I think it looks fine and is a neat concept. If you like your dude then great. I get shit on by most of Veeky Forums for stupid questions or things I do all the time.
@Burnblaze
That's a really low body count. I know you're trying to do the gimmick of the two SC boxes but usually the lower in points you go the more value raw bodies give.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Lunatick
oh wow decent looking Sisters of battle, nice.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Lunatick
There is someone this stupid around here ? And I thought /pol/tards were bad...

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Methnerd
good lord, they're only 12ppm? Now I get why people complain about he 21ppm for Necron Flayed Ones

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@RavySnake
robots only hit on 4s, 5s vs alpha legion and they take the penalty for moving. you need some kind of rerolls for them.

TechHater
TechHater

@Crazy_Nice
A smart opponent would deny your trygon/stealers access to anything but speed bumps that either fall back or die outright leaving your stealers completely open

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

New
/tg/thread/55836119#p55836119
/tg/thread/55836119#p55836119
/tg/thread/55836119#p55836119

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Flameblow
flayed ones don't exist user, they have an entry in the index but they're a myth

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@happy_sad
usually the lower in points you go the more value raw bodies give
Okay, my bad. I thought that GW is releasing such elite SC boxes for CWE because they are okay to play on extreme low model count. So should I buy these two boxes and something else (like a box or two of basic troops) or try to do it another way?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Crazy_Nice
This is a shitposter. Ignore him.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Nude_Bikergirl
Have a gr8 birthday dude

whereismyname
whereismyname

*Cowadooties behind you*

Nothing personal, noob.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@whereismyname

so it's my understanding that these guys are sent in on suicide mission to tangle up the backline, correct?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@cum2soon
Not really more of a suicide than any other deep striking/melee unit

cum2soon
cum2soon

@viagrandad
@Evilember
Harsh, but meh. I got tired of yriel yellow.

Went with the new generation in a new recipe. I do agree that the multiple scales look goofy. Is what it is.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Carnalpleasure
My dick is hard and I can't say why.

likme
likme

@Sir_Gallonhead
(from the other thread)
Maze is a bit harsh, yes. At leas they get their move +3" off the board edge in this version. I will lower the range and increase the warp charge.
I'll do the same for Blink.

@Spazyfool
Thanks : )

@TalkBomber
I hadn't *planned* on making downloadable, but I dont see why I can't

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@JunkTop

but they don't RIP AND TEAR as much as the other deep strikers though

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@likme
Maze is a bit harsh, yes. At leas they get their move +3" off the board edge in this version.
"At least it isn't as broken as it used to be" is a shit justification. The ability to bounce enemy units back into reserves is always going to be obscenely strong and result in tons of salt. I get that you want your ridiculously poorly playtested Corsair rules back, but get real.

Pretty much the same deal with Blink. The ability to move enemy units around is HUGE, and has been, as far as I can recall, completely removed from the game.

If you are changing <Coterie> to be in line with other <Sub-faction> keywords, I'm not sure what the Coterie changing Stratagem is up to, and it really, really doesn't make sense from a fluff perspective. Regardless of whether they're mercenaries or not, Corsairs don't magically rewrite their own past training and specialties mid-combat.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@ZeroReborn
Well, I'd start with Sorcerers and summoning.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@w8t4u
A simulacrum (plural: simulacra from Latin: simulacrum, which means "likeness, similarity") is a representation or imitation of a person or thing

compare:
this cracker is the body of christ
this banner is the bones of *insert imperial saint here*

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@PackManBrainlure
They've have said there will be some sort of Vehicle Design rules.
again? Does no one at that fucking company remember the last time they did this? They were broken as fuck.

SniperGod
SniperGod

What are you building /40kg/?

I'm working on some squats right now.

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