Your character falls into the underworld

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Your character falls into the underworld. What happens?

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Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@SomethingNew
Oh shit, so many dead people that I know. I think I owe so many of them money.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@SomethingNew
He kills everything and works to get back to the surface before his party gets tired of looking for him.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@SomethingNew
20d6 crushing

TreeEater
TreeEater

Ask Hades if there are any jobs going. Out of the 3 brothers he was the only halfway decent one.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@SomethingNew

He keeps falling 'til he hits overworld again.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@SomethingNew
sedentary call center rep

He'd probably just die from the fall.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@BlogWobbles
Some dopey kid survived, I doubt you would die.

As for me.

takes2long
takes2long

@SomethingNew
But he's already fucking his way through every hot drow chick in sight. Does the Underdark even have an underworld?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@takes2long
It's called the elemental plane of earth

massdebater
massdebater

@takes2long
Does the Underdark even have an underworld?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@takes2long
Underworlds having something below them is almost more common than not.
Hades and Tartarus (And several layers of primordial deities that even Zeus is scaried by in some versions), Limbo and the proper Hell,ect..

King_Martha
King_Martha

@SomethingNew
suffering

King_Martha
King_Martha

@SomethingNew
Your character falls into the underworld
Nah, man, that shit's lame and boring. Let me fix it up a bit.

Your character rises from the depths beneath the underworld itself. What happens?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@SomethingNew
How did I fall into the underworld while on a space ship in a setting with no known supernatural elements?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@viagrandad
You fucked up the FTL coordinates and smashed right into Mt. Ebott?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Garbage Can Lid
It might have been the space kracken

happy_sad
happy_sad

small pacifist satyr boy that just wants to be friends with everyone

He probably gets adopted.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Try to figure out what I can and can't fuck.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@SomethingNew
underworld
Its Underground you Matpat watching fuck

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@SomethingNew
As a mad Arab swordsman who cuts mountains in half with his hands and bounce bullets off his bare chest I can honestly say sans is a chump. And chara. And flowey.

It would be funny watching undyne bounce spears off his chest.

He's a self defense pacifist, so true pacifist might happen.

Maybe.

idontknow
idontknow

@SomethingNew
Become a sex slave to the drows.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@SomethingNew
She's been nearby before. She probably just heads east till she sees something familiar.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Spazyfool
And chara. And flowey.
Depends on the Chara and Flower, really. If it's them after becoming bloated with DETERMINATION, and him after swallowing the human SOULs, respectively, then you won't be doing shit to them.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@haveahappyday
They become gods, right?

Dudes like 3 leagues above that.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@takes2long
He's never been to the Under-Underdark

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@TalkBomber
They become gods, right?
Only Flowey becomes a god after absorbing the human SOULs. Chara becomes some timeline-devouring.......*thing* at the end of the Geno Route, bloated on LV and DETERMINATION. The closest thing that Chara could be equated to in game terms would be closer to the Lady Of Pain more than anything else.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@TalkBomber
Not really.

Time is freakin weak when you start hitting immortals handbook stuff.

massdebater
massdebater

@TalkBomber
Whatever it was Chara became, they literally cut reality with a knife so hard that it was destroyed, and can remake it from the oblivion that was left if you're willing to pay their price. That's straying past god to capital G God.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@SomethingNew
How big of a fall is it?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@idontknow
What a shitty setting.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@TalkBomber
@massdebater
It's not truly fair in the slightest, but my character is rocking a bunch of bull crap.

Notably speaking
a) when he dies he becomes an indestructible skeleton, after a second he rises again
b) knows the 7 words that make up reality
energy/matter
space/time
control
create
destroy
aether(souls)
chaos

This is arguably his strongest power
c) basic invincibility and super strength
d) high basic stats & fitness
e) amazing dodge

The things he fights regularly are lovecraftian or darksied level baddies.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Harmless_Venom
His superhero name is Hazard.

His actual name is Abdul Alhazred

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@viagrandad
See the documentary "Event Horizon."

TreeEater
TreeEater

Infernal Exalted modeled after Asura
Dude I can hate *humans* to death, so there's probably going to be a lot of monsters disintegrating on contact . On the other hand, he's got a massive soft spot for cute things so once he calms down (as much as he can) Mt. Eibot gets one hell of an insurance policy against genocidal children

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@SomethingNew
This@Ignoramus

Snarelure
Snarelure

@TalkBomber
The reason the game sucks is because making the First Boy a sociopath for no fucking reason is basically an asspull so that The Game's Point can be shoved down the audience's throat.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@w8t4u
not imp due to sharp rocks

tsk tsk

idontknow
idontknow

@SomethingNew
Nothing, because I'm not involved in any campaigns at the moment.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Snarelure
I do have to admit that the genocide run is by far the worst run. Even if it does make my favorite character awesome. It's part of the reason why I consider the hotline Miami series to be better.

But the pacifist run was ok.

6/10 bone puns are what kept me playing

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Boy_vs_Girl
how would you even run something like this

Supergrass
Supergrass

@LuckyDusty
Using IH ascension.

WebTool
WebTool

She's not human so they greet her as a fellow monster.

A few years later she might get a psychotic break from being surrounded by such happy people

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Spamalot
Tier list
beard
son
jacket
jake
pardo
biker
writer
fans

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Snarelure
It's not really an asspull if there are hints that the character is messed up in the other routes of the game. Chara being underhanded is how literally the whole plot sets up the way that it does.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Illusionz
Actually brings a good point.

Who is stronger Richard or Chara?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@SomethingNew
Depends, either he own up, and becomes smart and starts to man up, or he's royaly fucked.
He's a spoiled and rotten last-in-line of a minor noble who spent his time gambling, drinking and chasing tail until his parents cut off the money and told him to go "experience the world". He can duel like almost no other though, so thats a plus. Still, if he doesnt stop being stupid he is dead.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@SomethingNew
I Colonise the underworld in the name of the British empire. After I brew up tea of course.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@SomethingNew
He would grab his sword and get ready for a good fight.

Inmate
Inmate

"I'VE KILLED A ORK WARLORD FOR FUCKS SAKE! AYE IT WAS WITH THE REST OF THE LADS BUT STILL! WHAT THE HELL CAN YOU FAGGOTS DO!

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Harmless_Venom
@Crazy_Nice

You and your character sound like the worst people to play with holy fucking shit.

You sound like the kid on the playground who says "my power is I can have every power and an everything-proof forcefield."

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Stark_Naked
Not really you should see the other guys.

Blood magic, man
Blood magic

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Bidwell
Called counter-spelling chump.
Do you even wizard?

Booteefool
Booteefool

Mmm, that's a nostalgic song playing. Those were good times. Meanwhile, who the hell are these people with this project? I'm so glad it's over. You think it's nothing but good memories? Hell no! Let's use this space to give out some thanks.

First off, Kaoru Ogura, who ran off with some guy in the middle of the project. Yes, you, you bastard. Don't show up at the office without showering after having sex 6 times the previous night. Next, Tatsuya Ōhashi. Yes, you, you bastard. Don't give me your flippant shit — coming in late on the day we ship the ROM like nothing's amiss. You can give me all the porn you want; I'm not forgetting that one. All that fucking weight you put on. No wonder you paid out 18,000 yen and still got nothing but a kiss out of it. Kenji Takano, Namco debugger. You are a part-timer; don't dick around with the project planner. And finally, Kiyoharu Gotō, the biggest thorn to my side in this project. Yes, you, you bastard. Once I get a time machine, I’m sending you back to the Edo period. Go do your riddles over there.

Ahh, that's a load off... wait, no it's not. Kiyoharu Gotō — yes, you, you bastard. Aaaagh, just disappear already.

Come to think of it, some people were helpful to me, too. Mr. Okada, who took all the good stuff. I know all about your abnormal tendencies. Yamagishi, who swore off soaplands until the project was over. Go ahead, knock yourself out now. Iwata, who joined in midway and gave it all he had. Sorry I yelled at you. Keep hanging in there. Fujimura, Udopyu, you probably had it the worst of all. Thanks. I mean it. Gotō's the one to hate here. Also, Takayama, Kudō, Suzuki, Makki, Kaneko, Aihara, Sato (the angel of my heart), Iga. Thanks, everyone.
Yoko-G, good work. This game is dedicated to your wife's birthday.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Considering he has basic communication skills, he'd ask the goat woman who seems friendly or the wacky skeleton about what the hell's going on. Once all the cryptic bullshit's out of the way and there's some actual context to why everyone wants him dead, it'd more or less play out like a pacifist run that's resolved in 15 minutes. If a small child can make it down here, a knight probably won't have much trouble.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Stark_Naked
@Bidwell
@AwesomeTucker
Let's put it this way. The game has multiple different spellcasting systems.

summoning.
have to get through a locked door? summon kys the key demon

mana spellcasting
this involves stealing life energy from other creatures, be it blood magic or Druidism.

the seven words
magic comes completely from yourself.
can cause madness. faint if you use it too much.

Basically 7 words is the strongest but it's dependent on my energy and health.

The other members have giant energy stories and so forth, whereas my dude is based completely on himself.

How he wins is he just dodges and uses [control] and [aether] to rip the souls out of chara. Or use [control] and [space-time] to turn back time.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Carnalpleasure
You are not doing a good job of making this sound any less terrible to be a part of.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@SomethingNew
Fight my way out ofc

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Raving_Cute
I faint if I try to do anything bull crap, and would probably die if I reset the world.

Stealing souls or just creating antimatter would be the best paths, but neither is good for me.

Thankfully he wouldn't wake chara, and could take genocide frisk.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Raving_Cute
I agree, this game sounds like a confusing mess filled with EDGE

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@kizzmybutt
Not really

There are some edgy people, the ancient witch is more a villain than a heroic, however Hazard is a Moses looking dude who wears yellow stretchy pants and helping people.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Raving_Cute
I dont really know charas laws, whether they are worldbreaking or reality bending, but Richards main schtick is outlasting. A billion deaths later he'll come kicking back once more.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@cum2soon
If we go by kills Jacket has ~401 humans and chara has about ~100 monsters.

Jackets probably LV 100 right now.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@cum2soon
Richard seems to have time powers due to his foreknowledge, and the projector scene.

He almost seems to be an angel that keeps people stuck in purgatory until they repent. Not a wimp angel either, full on metatron level angel.

Emberburn
Emberburn

CAR THIEVES AND BURGLARS, WHO ARE THE SCUM OF THIS EARTH, SHOULD ALL BE HANGED

WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS... HOW DO THE SCUM MANAGE TO STEAL CARS AND ROB HOUSES WHEN THEY HAVEN'T GOT A BRAIN??

THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR CRIME

IF SOMEONE BREAKS INTO YOUR HOUSE OR TRIES TO STEAL YOUR CAR, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO SHOOT THEM DEAD, AS THEY ARE NO MORE USE TO SOCIETY THAN A RABID DOG

I PAY TAXES TO STOP SCUM DYING IN THE STREETS AND THEY COME ROUND AND STEAL ALL MY POSSESSIONS..... NOW THERE'S GRATITUDE FOR YOU

THE SCUM ARE TRYING TO BRING THIS COUNTRY DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL OF DEPRAVITY....... PLEASE DON'T LET THEM SUCCEED

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Carnalpleasure
This sounds like some super sketchy homebrew that sounds like online to freeform and I'm shuddering at the realization that this might just be Mage: the Awakening as played by (not you necessarily but definitely the DM) complete spergs.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Emberburn
I'm not giving it back. You should have shown a modicum of care for security and you didn't so now your wheels are mine.

My character wouldn't survive the underworld. I'm an ADnD thief, I never had a chance

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Soft_member
It's gurps symbol magic actually.

Pretty fun. The witch is probably the one who tries to abuse it the most but whatever I'm having a good time.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@SomethingNew
I kill everything

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@King_Martha
Only if you try to get back. Some of the areas are pretty comfy.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Spazyfool
self defense pacifist
That sort of attitude would still result in you killing half the underground. The True Pacifist run means monsters attack you and you dodge their attacks until you can convince them to stop attacking you. Anyone with a code of conduct that allows them to use force in response to force is not getting that bittersweet ending.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Deadlyinx
True pacifist is actually the worst ending as a bunch of monsters showing up in earth today is going to cause multiple genocides.

It's better for them to stay underground.

FastChef
FastChef

@StrangeWizard
It's better for them to stay underground.
It's sad to say,but this. Humanity is just too paranoid and utterly delusional to accept a race of peace-loving monsters without trying to massacre them all simply out of petty hate and spite.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@FastChef
Honestly if things like humming can hurt humans they would be dead in a few hours.

Even sans is a chump to a knife.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@SomethingNew
He reads books with goatmom.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Illusionz
Pardo
that low on the list
Oh, come on. He is a heroic detective that is always in the camera spotlight.
He's the best detective on the job! Let's wish him best of luck in catching that heinous and villainous Miami Mutilator!

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@viagrandad
He is in the top 5 user

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Snarelure
for no fucking reason
The game tells you the exact reason it happens when it happens.

so that The Game's Point can be shoved down the audience's throat.
The "point" is shown by having characters react logically. If you kill everything in your path, they characters react as if you were a mass murderer. That's how the "message" is "forced" into the game.

@Lunatick
I do have to admit that the genocide run is by far the worst run.
The worst thing to say about it is that it's designed to be itself. If killing and getting points is all you want, killing and getting points is all you get.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Illusionz
Writer isn't higher
Fuck you, unloading guns means combos for days.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@SomethingNew
SMITE
EVERYTHING!

cum2soon
cum2soon

@happy_sad
The worst thing to say about it is that it's designed to be itself. If killing and getting points is all you want, killing and getting points is all you get.
While I do agree about genocide run making a compelling point, intentionally making gameplay tedious in order to make a point is still a pretty shit thing to do, and hiding actually fun content (i.e. the Sans fight) behind the wall of intentionally boring gameplay is even worse.

Calling out completionists and claiming they are immoral people for exploring all the content there is in the game they bought is a shitty thing to do.
It's like Spec Ops: The Line all over again, the difference being that Spec Ops didn't offer fake choices like Undertale did and instead focused on giving you the narrative.
Like, in Spec Ops you don't have the agency and there are no meaningful choices to explore, and therefore, all the "You could've just stopped" stuff comes out as hollow - there is a definite disconnect between the player and the character they control - and therefore, you can just enjoy the story of descent of a single soldier into madness and chaos.
In Undertale, though, you have the agency and it is natural for a player to want to explore all the outcomes of his choices. Calling out the player for wanting to explore the game is fucking dumb.

In hindsight, a more apt comparison would actually be Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi - that one also is fond of calling out the player for wanting to explore all the content there is to the game.

There are just some lines a game developer shouldn't mess with, even if he tries to convey "an artistic message", especially such a meaningless message as this one.

askme
askme

@SomethingNew
"Out of the way goat girl some bastered said he'd give me 200 gold to jump down here and I want my 200 gold!"
and thus, chaos happens

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@SomethingNew
they hang with the skelly bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZUBRWHB-E

idontknow
idontknow

@SomethingNew
Try to use divine intervention to leave. If not, probably die.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@cum2soon
Here's what I think

Hotline maimi has amazing combat. It's so good, the music is jamming, the blood goes everywhere. It's exelerating. However between each level, you get made fun of and told that nothing you do matters. You feel bad about having fun.

In undertake the combat sucks, the genocide run is even worse. You feel bad and the game rubs it in your face. Sans and Undyne are stupid hard bosses that take no thinking to beat. You don't have fun killing and the game makes you feel bad about killing.

Hotline Miami is a series of ups and downs. Undertale is either up or down.

idontknow
idontknow

@Illusionz
All these character
Hotline Miami2
The second just flat out sucks. Just stop

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@idontknow
Please notice that beard is 1 and jacket is 3

And that Richard would be #1, but he's not really a character.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@cum2soon
intentionally making gameplay tedious in order to make a point
It doesn't go out of its way to make it boring. If you're killing monsters over and over for experience points, then eventually you get to the point where you're just doing the same thing over and over for the sake of doing it. The game is balanced to make pacifism fun, and it makes genocide boring as a natural consequence of that.

It's like Spec Ops: The Line all over again
There's an important difference. Undertale doesn't offer you a fake choice and punish you for doing it "wrong" when you could have done nothing else, it offers you a real choice and makes the "right" choice a viable and fun option. That's why it succeeds when other games with similar themes fail.

Calling out the player for wanting to explore the game is fucking dumb.
All the game does is have the characters react the way the characters would react. If you want to "explore" killing everything you meet just to see what would happen, then you get to see what happens.

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