Spheres of Might's here and there's already going to be errata. Go get your martial traditions and Feat/Adept progression trades while you still can on your half casters! What's your favorite thing about SoM?
it has to be the Equipment Sphere's Discipline Talents. Trading in your Martial Proficiency for them....absolutely brilliant move, makes your Proficiencies a lot more flavorful, and hell, might even make some weapons usable. Take the Bastard Sword for example. you wouldn't want to spend a feat on that. but trading away proficiency in some weapon you would probably never use? That's worth it, in my book.
Wyatt Bailey
The entire scoundrel and scout sphere, holy god, it finally lets me play a sneaky thief perfectly!
Brayden Reed
The fact that it's as poorly put together and thought out as SoP, which is also a shitty system.
Andrew Robinson
Truly epic
Aaron Hall
Gotta admit, I love some of the goofy weapons like the battle wrench and shit, lets me use an improvised weapon without it being garbage.
Alexander Torres
>be Shifter, a mid-caster >take Warshifter archetype for initiating >trade feats for SoM shenanigans >have all of the options ever
Probably overly clunky with all those options, but it sounds fucking awesome to play.
Ian Diaz
Love the (unreleased) Sage class that somehow pulls off being a monk with d6 HD. Having a good time with the Commander so far.
Mason Parker
Adamant Guardian sentinel is the most awesome tank I've ever played.
Jonathan Peterson
From what I remember from the playtest it looked fun, but I know none of my groups are ever going to use it and every group from here will either ban it because it doesn't play nice with things they already use, or only use it in combination with every other 3pp subsystem smashed together so it ends up being too much of a headache to care about.
I kinda wish I didn't need like, 2-3 talents to make Sparrow's Path work. All-day, wingless flight is cool.
Gavin Rodriguez
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Brody Perry
apt description of SoM
Easton Campbell
Barroom and Athletics have always been the favorite spheres! Also, Striker is stkk fun looking, and they actually made the Armiger somewhat useful, and even gave it a sick Bloodborne archetype!
Jeremiah Foster
>t. Jason Bhulman
Chase Miller
Did DHB ever talk more about his Relic User system?
Gabriel Rivera
Got the starting map of "Burned Offering" of the "Rise of the Runelords" Anniversary running.
It was a blast : A full blown on bluff sorcerer, a poor as fuck healing hand monk and a ranger. They roleplayed quite nicely, even if the monk and the ranger always had problems roleplaying.
I find Pathfinder being a comfy game as a DM, and I'm trying to make a "lite version" to introduce non-experienced player to it.
How was your last game like, /pfg/ ?
Charles Robinson
honestly its pretty crazy how many people have subsystem shit on /pfg/ they've worked on but never done more with
Jaxon Roberts
>pathfinder lite
have you heard of this game called 'fifth edition'
Lincoln Perry
I like that it's pretty much setting neutral. While the original three PoW classes were pretty setting-lite (+medic), the other four are a bit weird fluffwise.
SoP is WAY easier to integrate as well, and actually has templates and example monsters
Bentley Davis
Yes I did, but I don't have any ressources nor the time to find a pdf and translate it into a usable read. I'll try to find a rule book, but when I was talking about a "lite version", it was more in the vein of the "Beginner Box : Players handbook" type of "lite".
Ian Brown
... Yeah dude imagine if there was a 5e srd and a 5e thread
Jaxson Cruz
I know, but the major problem is to get it and translate it in a usable mess for non-english speaker that serves as my players.
Jordan Turner
Okay, I wanna talk about the Scholar and Technician.
I honestly don't like them much. Sure, hey have a lot of utility and use to them, but for some reason the traits and such rub me wrong. Scholar feels like its trying to do too many things at once and tends to step on the Wizard's and Alchemist's shoes, while Technician's electricity and laser stuff just feels kinda wierd fluffwise.
Anyone else have an opinion on them? Becuase honestly I'm not completely sure how I feel about them. and by anyone, I mean anyone who isn't 2hu
Christian Morgan
it would be easier than pathfinder
hell i bet it was ublished in his language
Bentley Jones
I'm not big on the scholar, but the technician is super cool to me. It's got silly versatility, can do basically whatever you want, and while its fluff doesn't fit everything, it's still pretty damn awesome.
Cameron Perez
I now, but personally I would rather instead play a Vauntguard over a Technician.
Jolly please get back to work unfucking the Darkness archetype.
Grayson Bell
Actually doing that as we speak along with other stuff on the doc.
Gotta say, been in a bit of a slump recently, so this SoM errata work has been really nice.
Wyatt Hernandez
I really like those boobs.
Elijah Morris
Can someone explain why someone thought all day free teleport without LOE was a good idea for avowed?
Logan Young
By the time you get it, Dimensional Lock and other anti-teleport countermeasures are kind of expected to be carried around. Same as how Flight as early as 6th level is fine; by that point, your foes better have had countermeasures (even just a longbow-focused fighter) or else they're just incompetent.
Colton Walker
>Technician's electricity and laser stuff just feels kinda wierd fluffwise. >his fantasy worlds don't have eletricity and lasers already. I mean people on Golarion canonically can make achemical lightning and engines. So it's not that huge of a stretch. And since no one else can use their shit, it's not like stuff is really breaking.
I mean shit. You just posted characters from a fantasy world with pretty advanced technology.
Alexander Rogers
And yet you hate the Alchemist.
Brandon Brown
Unless you have a full action after the teleport and it travels hundreds of miles, it's actually not incredibly powerful, just very useful.
Ethan Hernandez
It was published in my language, but fuck, I can't find the pdf. So yeah, I'm stuck with what I got.
Better than doing a freaking homebrew system based of Dark Heresy for more than 6 month.
Christopher Thomas
Tell me what heathen tongue you kiss your mother with, and I'll see what I can do.
Gavin Jenkins
The one you use to french kiss frogs and heathen.
I found one, but making them read more than 30 pages will be hard, I won't promise that the group will blew itself up as "TLDR, want to roll."
Christopher Perez
They are too big user.
Kayden Johnson
The alchemist is poorly designed is why.
Joshua Harris
The alchemist is legitimately the best designed class in the game.
Ayden Diaz
Alchemist could've used the ability to qualify for crafting feats such as Craft Wondrous Items without Master Craftsman
Kevin Jackson
Magic Item crafting is cancerous for the most part anyway.
Connor White
If you can't reach an agreement with your GM on alchemists being able to craft thematically appropriate wondrous items then you either have a bad gm or there is no comunication between you two
Alexander Hill
Why do you assume the person who wrote the fucking book on the alchemist hates them?
Kevin Garcia
Today i let one of my players known that i'm almost done with his adventure and to get ready for fun! Another one mailed me his pc's backstory so now i can finally start writing something appropriate for him!
Carson Cruz
Where is Spheres of Might? I'm not seeing it in the Trove.
Levi Barnes
Still getting scrubbed I imagine
Joseph Price
Things just went from hype to utterly demolished. Do any of you guys here have plans for the weekend? Any adventures you'd like to tell of?
Anthony Nelson
Hopefully will be able to play Sunday evening.
James Bailey
Reminder that DHB has leaked he's running a game soon. Who is ready for a new app circus! He told me it might be from his goblinoid theme'd 3pp AP Engines of War
Hunter Peterson
I'm playing in a Starfinder game tonight, running a Pathfinder game tomorrow around 6, then playing in another Pathfinder game at around 11, if it doesn't get cancelled like it has for the past few weeks. I'd tell of adventures, but they aren't /pfg/ games, so nobody would be interested.
Christopher James
>Mailed what sort of old timey game are you running?
Luis Bennett
>but they aren't /pfg/ games, so nobody would be interested. But /pfg/ hates /pfg/ games. People would probably be more interested if you told of your adventures.
Isaiah Nguyen
I'm currently running a game where the party is the equivalent of the magic FBI. Last session they fought a giant half-fiend who was reborn out of a cult they busted a few sessions before.
Dominic Perez
Fuck off StarToad.
Jacob Perry
>tfw 25 years old >measured dick is only 5.1 to 5.5 inches
Should I kill myself?
Brayden Collins
kys StarToad
Sebastian Brooks
What you should do is fuck off from this thread.
Luke Robinson
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Gabriel Moore
I dunno, I like hearing about other people's games, but /pfg/ doesn't seem all that interested unless they're /pfg/ games or celebs are involved. It's understandable, since they weren't really involved in the game concept or the characters.
David Richardson
That's literally average.
You honestly shouldn't fret over dick size unless you're sub 3 inches.
Tyler Richardson
Alright, now for the important question!
Path of War or Spheres of Might
Pick one and only one
Carson Howard
>If you really, really wanted to mix the two products, you could be an inquisitor (warpath follower) with both a Path of War martial tradition and a Spheres of Might martial tradition. Then you could cash in some of your feats for an adept progression and wield both initiating and passive spheremight talents. Will this be the ultimate 2hu meme build?
Easton Baker
TAR-KUS, TAR-KUS, TAR-KUS, TAR-KUS!
Jace Kelly
Path of War.
Gabriel Gutierrez
Spheres of Might, wayyyyyy easier to fluff and it looks like it plays nicer with other subsystems.
Cooper Murphy
PoW
Nathaniel Edwards
Path of War
Camden Ward
How the fuck is Path of War hard to fluff.
You don't think you're actually fucking bound to the disciplines default fluff do you?
Cameron Lopez
Why? because it isn't the new one? All PoW does is inflate damage and occasionally give movements. Really, the only good thing it has going for it is Stances and Counters
Isaac Green
Spheres of Might does the same shit while being harder to use, having less interesting classes, and less variety in what you can do or at least not even bothering with the illusion of variety.
Kevin Ward
Because Spheres of Might literally just came out and nobody's had time to actually see if they like it now that it's out, dumbass.
William Howard
Path of War is pretty easy to fluff... but there are some issues. The first three PoW classes + Medic are pretty easy to fluff, yknow, but the others (Rajah, Mystic, Harbinger, Zealot) are guilty of having fluff that /might not/ fit all settings. All the spheres are piss easy to fluff (they have /none/ inherently) and the classes are all mostly in the same league as the Stalker/Warder/Warlord in terms of fluff/setting-neutrality.
I'll also say that SoM has actual /guidelines/ that dictate what to do with monsters and mobs, which puts it above PoW in my book
Andrew Moore
>are guilty of having fluff that /might not/ fit all settings. That's true of literally every primarily super natural class in the game though. First or third party.
John Barnes
Because, for all it's fault, PoW is FUN to play with. Every time I try to look at SoM's bland, flavorless options I fall asleep at my keyboard.
Andrew Adams
>flavorless The weakest bait imaginable. Scale foe, menacing belch, dragoon dive, capoeira spin, Anything In Wrestling, etc.
Robert Sanchez
I hate SoM too, but the strength of the Sphere's System is that it's relatively fluff agnostic. If anything I think SoM as is is TOO fluffy and makes too many assumptions when compared to how versatile and generic Sphere Options were.
And flavor text has next to nothing to do with how fun a mechanic is.
>being harder to use, nigga what? Its literally just pick what you want when you get the chance to. Its as brain-dead simple as SoP, which is infinately easier to use than anything Vancian derived, like PoW >having less interesting classes And the original PoW 3 were even more boring. At least SoM has cool shit like Striker, Scholar, and Technician. And Sentinal is basically Warder except with less complicated bullshit > less variety in what you can do It has a shit load more non-combat versatility than PoW, and actually gives you options that can be mixed around. The only thing it doesn't cover is magical options like hadoukens and *teleports behind you* that PoW has, and even then its still is better at giving unique support to more plastyles like Companion Tagteams, Drunken fighting, Improvised Weapons, Trap usage, Alchemical weapons, Poison use, Parkour/enemy climbing, Water combat, combat stealing, stealth, and actual sniping! Meanwhile most all PoW does is let you make your numbers bigger or move more often by spamming Boost+Strike/Full Attack, and occasionaly using a counter when an enemy wins initiative.
Have you tried playing Guild Wars 2 instead? Plus to me MAnuevers are boring because its always the same "use my normal Boost/Strike combo, then regain if they are somehow still alive"
Plus, at least SoM actually gives you some utility rather than just making you into Big Number generators. PoW is the DBZ of martial systems, cool for spectacle but ultimately lacking in any meaningful substance, because all you end up doing is just making your numbers bigger and try to out DPS your enemy.
Wyatt Bell
Kill yourself Adam.
Hunter Rivera
What do you do when you feel like everyone you know from games barely put up with you and you can feel your happy demeanor slowly cracking away because you realize that nobody will ever like you for who you are and so you have to put on the facade of a cynical, contrarian pile of shit? I just want to play Pathfinder, not worry about whether my group tolerates me or not, but I still feel it seeping in every single time before, during, and after a session.
Ryder Young
>put on the facade of a cynical, contrarian pile of shit Wait if this is your facade why don't you just drop it and be yourself? Being cynical and contrarian makes people not want to deal with you, why don't you just stop acting that way if it's a facade?
Jonathan King
But I can't let go of WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN!!!
Matthew King
Are Eidolons really so powerful that it justifies having so few spells slots and skills for the Summoner? I feel like I'm having trouble putting together what my actual character is supposed to do. Skills especially seem bad given that your main stat is charisma but you don't get any charisma skills outside of like UMD.
Michael Davis
Scholar and Technician are weak as shit though. Warders aren't complicated. PoW isn't Vancian derived beyond Maneuver Levels going from 1-9.
Austin Hall
Oh come on, I just spent the last hour trying to get Discord to work and ended up cancelling my Friday game for the week. I hate the whole pastebin-posting anyway. Please don't make today more annoying by claiming it's me.
Cameron Evans
Please kill yourself and stop spamming the thread with RotJR's character discussion. No one cares
I'm going to blame it on every namefag mentioned in this thread until it stops.
Matthew Long
Nice try, Adam. We won't be fooled by the double fakeout twice!
Sebastian Brown
What I'm saying is that I'm a happy person, but this mood's started fading and it's started affecting me so much that it makes me become and act like a douche when I'm really not all because of my paranoia that everything is put on, my 'friends' and 'group' hate both me and my characters. I want to go back to being happy again so that I can play Pathfinder with my friends, but it just seems impossible.
Jacob Jenkins
Be content to play. I hate about half the people in my group, but it's a good game.
Tyler Clark
I can corroborate his story, if it doesn't throw more grease onto the fire.
Logan Long
Whatever you say, Adam.
Bentley Collins
You sound depressed.
Isaiah Russell
Hi I'm Adam and I suck cocks.
Isaac Morris
>Adams Adaming Adams How far does it go?
Cameron Myers
Adam is really just an alter ego of Captain slow
Angel Perry
Talk to your doctor.
Michael Flores
What's the last monster you've seen kill a PC?
Samuel Kelly
Seriously? I come here to read about pathfinder, not watch a bunch of monkeys jerk each other off over third party garbage.
Liam Wright
No one's interested in /pfg/ games except a few weirdos who jack off to them.