Thoughts on industrial or early modern fantasy?

Thoughts on industrial or early modern fantasy?

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1880s is the best time technologically for adventure.

>come into thread ready to bring up bas-lag
>read OP's filename
Beat me to it. Bas-lag is great, haven't really read anything else good.

I really like airships. That's basically all you need to sell me on a setting.

I imagine getting oldheads into it will require something like early 20th century modern so you can have cool model T type cars that you drive around and keep your sword in the back seat

Needs to be done more.
It's disturbing how set in its ways a genre that's supposedly defined by unrestricted imagination is.

Yeah, it's a shame that fantasy is so constrained the way it is but I guess it's because fucking grogs and normies expect the same old shit and you have no choice but to make what sells

Love it, wish there was a game for it.

I like it, especially because I hate a setting where technology and societal progress stagnates.

As a matter of fact, my current campaign setting is basically late-1500's/early 1600's American colonies.

But as for industrial or early modern, I really like the feel, especially if magic and tech have come together in some neat little ways.

I also imagine the concept of the Orc War Wagon evolved from a tribal thing into 'Individual Orcs owning ultra-customized, garishly decorated cars'.

>Orcs are ricers
I love it.

This is beautiful, who is the artist?

>dat steampunk tacticool doggo

I'm in a game set in magical World War I.

>love steampunk/dieselpunk/gaslamp
>every good picture is ruined by fucking airships

yea but this is fantasy so they should have treads.

Needs more landships.

>simple brick wall
>iron doors / window covers
What's the point of making your door more durable than your wall?

The brickwork is just a facade.

The biggest question I have is how to make the fantasy still feel like fantasy? With most modernity the fantasy of things is completely removed.

Have it be about exploration. Scramble for Africa and 30s pulp novel tier stuff.

Clever. Though you might as well facade your doors with wood or something.

It could be part of the castle town. When the old stone walls were found not to be able to stand up to the new weapons being introduced they took it as a chance to reinvigorate the economy and instill some spirit in the citizenry with a public works project to re-enforce the outer portion and build new housing in what use to be a slummy area. Now the middle class citizens have some nice homes in the castle town (at the expense of the rabble who were pushed out to the gates).

Clearly it was designed to be used in the city. The treads are for the vehicles that operate outside of it.

>What's the point of making your door more durable than your wall?

The building was already there for a long time, and probably had a wood door when it was built. The metal door was likely added later for security.

Part of security is appearing secure. Brick walls and steel doors will keep out anyone without explosives, and by being obvious, reduces the number of people who will try to break in.

Same idea as putting up something that looks like a security camera. Keeps the opportunists from wasting your time.

Whats it like?

Not him, but anything that could potentially make ww1 WORSE...

>early modern

Like 1600s?

I love it so much that I've decided to have my campaign setting modeled after it (with a few advancements in regards to radio and music). I've still yet to figure out what's the trade-off using firearms and artillery if enchantments and spells can stop projectiles, albeit temporarily. Never mind the fact of how airplanes would come into play with things like flying brooms and griffons.

What the fuck is it with Veeky Forums, anyway? I literally just started running a fantasy magitech pre-WW1 game a couple months ago and now I see posts on this subject every damn day, whereas not a peep before and every one of my threads on it died. Bizarre.

You could've just Google image searched it, Jonas De Ro was the first result.

That's just the way of internet posting. Shout into the void.

>30s pulp novel tier
I'd play the fuck out of a Tintin game

This game has been going on for two years now, almost three.

I distinctly recall a stumbling across a few threads to that effect a few years ago on sup/tg/, back during my lurking days.

So the continents and countries are rearranged Strangereal style and magical creatures exist as well as every country having its own style of magic. History is also a bit different with Ireland dominating the British Isles for example and the Ottoman Empire maintaining an iron grip on most of eastern Europe. Russia got killed by fairies and China/Japan/Korea is a big ass Empire that basically dominates all of Asia, has the Ottomans as a client state and are colonizing the west coast of America (which recently rebelled against imperial authority thanks to the players in the previous story arc). Speaking of America and Africa, because of sea monsters, barely anyone went there but with the invention of airships, the Scramble for the Americas and Africa is happening at the same time. And also a French prince was shot in Luxembourg and World War 1 has broken out with Germany and France against all of Europe. There's a ton more going on with shit like magical railgun artillery, planes with magical Jericho trumpets that make people's head's explode, elves and other assorted magical creatures getting caught in humanity's first industrial war and realizing how hopelessly outclassed they have been, etc. I'd write more but phoneposting is a pain in the ass.

I don't know how brittle you think stone is, but it could be any thickness.

I don't consume a lot of fantasy literature these days, but almost everything I've read in this style has been pretty sweet, like Mieville's work or The Gods are Bastards.

>Twig is finally over

What would be a good system to run a 1920s "bio-punk" setting? I was thinking M&M would work well enough, but I'm open to suggestion.

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You mean like those trucks you see in Pakistan?

Mother fucking jinglies.

More or less what I'm doing for a couple short stories.

needs more spikiness

You know what.

That ain't fantasy, that's just India.
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1900s

1600s would be very very early industrial era

I mean, turn of the century stuff can be super fun imo

When historians use it the term 'early modern' refers roughly to the time period between 1500-1800.
Which leads to confusion since other people tend to use it to refer to the early Industrial era.

What about fantasy based on 1960's -1970's culture?
Warriors driving muscle cars while wizards ride shotgun firing spells at enemy cars in drag races to the death.
ICBM's loaded with cursed warheads that can spread petrification spells across an entire city anywhere in the world withing 30 minutes.
Space race to harvest power crystals from moon and nearby planets and asteroids.
Druidic combat squadrons commanding local fauna to fight enemy guerillas in jungle and signaling for air support.
Cold war spy antics involving telepaths and shapeshifters.

Anyone know of some fantasy settings with roughly Napoleonic Wars level technology? Widespread gunpowder, steam engines still not common. Other than pic related

I'd like to see your map. Also surely without the resources supplied by Africa/Americas discovery war would have come much sooner?

Is it fantasy Napoleonic Wars with, you know, Napoleon, or is it a completely made up setting?

Completely made up. The nation of Adro is the most technologically advanced in the known world, and they are only just starting to tinker with steam engines. It's common for people to doubt the gods really existed, or at least to doubt whether they really were gods. The labor unions are just starting to organize into the first modern-style political party.

Everyone else on the continent is not far behind. More distant nations on other continents seem to be at a similar tech level (Dynize) or far behind (Gurla, Fatrasta). Colonization by advanced countries has been in full-swing for a while, and some of the colonies are starting to rebel.

>we will never build a 2 mile long rigid airship that serves as a flying city

Feels bad mang. The technology is there if we really wanted it.

This sounds like the best thing ever

The technology to support things that have no economic benefit does not exist.

Some things should just be done because they're rad. Like underwater cities. Or genetically modified animals that glow in the dark.

post it here.

No one would fund it.
I wonder how many scientist got reprimanded due to submitting ludicrously cool ideas with their only reasoning was because it was cool.

It supports you though.

The GM and I are dragging our feet on making an actual map and usually use rough Paint sketches although we are slowly but surely making a canon map of Europe that looks nice. It's still a WIP and on my computer so I can't post it right now. War in Europe hasn't happened in centuries because of the Ottoman boogeyman but with the party discovering that the Ottomans were a collapsing paper tiger and the fucked up political situation and tension in unoccupied Europe, the assassination became an excuse for France and Germany to seize land with sea access that Britain and friends weren't letting then have (borders in this game are different). So it's a mix of alt History, fantasy, Strangereal and whatever cool shit the GM and I think of.

If people make things that they think are rad they're sacrificing their own labour and money towards it and getting sentimental value in return. That's what makes it economically viable, the value it creaties.
There's not enough passion in the world to pay for the construction of a city. You can't gather enough volunteer construction workers and kickstarter hackers for a trillion dollar project.

I was thinking a little more like Japanese Dekotora. Though that does work too.

But like says, probably a lot more spikes on either.

Don't forget young orc men all doing up their hair in duckbutts and pompadours,

>Instead of switch blades they all have switch axes

I've had this idea for a system of trade in my setting where people set out in trucks and busses between cities and towns to offer their services or to deliever stuff. The only actual merchants are the people within those places who put in the order and those who come in via this trade system are people called in or are specialist who make rounds around a route.

Anyways, this was a convient way in my mind to give PCs their own truck they can deck out however they wanted and move around from one objective to another or go off fucking around.

What's the point of all that body armor in a setting with rifles and machine guns? And how is lamellar going to protect the pupper if the people think they need all that shit on them?

Clearly they are responding to the siting of a monster within the city walls and are prepared to deal with it accordingly. The armor is broken out for just such occasions and during times of riot

The people get in the train's way
The train gets in the people's way
But there just isn't space for both of them.
Yup, that's india.

we could also mine out mercury in 50 years and start working on a dyson swarm NOW.
We live in worst timeline.
Anyway, bas-lag has a city made entirely from ships strung together, full of pirates. It's the next best thing.

Industrial as in industrial revolution?

Romance in the Sky? Spirit of Adventure?

Different player, same campaign here. As said, no full world map, but I can throw you the map of the current strategic area of interest. Dokbar has been the site of a low-intensity proxy war between Valeria (not!Germany) and and Athenia (Not!Greece) for quite some time, and with the war breaking out it's turned into an outright warfront- the Athenians, being religious fanatics and Dokbar being filled with fey (who, due to our influence, have allied with Valeria) have decided to basically just burn every town and forest during their march forward, thus the massive patch of wasteland.

Oh, and to explain why some of the factions on the key are missing- the Principate was Dokbar's original government, which was weakened by both the Forest Church (Athenia's proxy) and the Collegiate (Valeria's proxy), but the party negotiated the Principality's annexation to Valeria and the Forest Church forces officially joined the Athenian military, so they're no longer individually represented on the map. The collegiate is technically still kinda separate but mostly no one's checked in on them in a while, they're probably just Valerian now rather than their own faction, politically.

If that's what you guys call a "rough Paint sketch" I can see why a world map isn't forthcoming.

Nah, he meant the world map itself is a rough paint sketch. GM spent a TON of time getting this map right, and i expect we won't see the world map until it's of similar quality.

>Thoughts on industrial or early modern fantasy?

My favorite setting/trope, it's almost impossible to get wrong or do incorrectly.

It saddens me that the spirit of doing something because "why not?" isn't a widespread one.
Black Science Man is right that they're "Historically Inefficient Drivers", but still.
You never find new lands if you stay on the trodden path, and you never make new markets if you stick with the foreseeable economically viable.

Scientists do things for the hell of it all the time.

It's engineers who make things work in an efficient manner, often using the discoveries of the scientists to do so.

>Scientists do things for the hell of it all the time.
The only field that gets to do "big things for the hell of it" is probably theoretical physicists, user, and that's only because they get giant particle colliders to appease them for a decade or so.

>It's engineers who make things work in an efficient manner, often using the discoveries of the scientists to do so.
Sure, they do, but only ever when it's economically viable to do so.

Currently playing a game that roughly translates to: "Warhammer FRP: WWI Edition." It's pretty fun. Skaven are fucking cunts though.

Clearly. If they were fighting something that needed all that armor to fight you'd think they'd bring something more potent than a hummer with a machine gun on top though. Seems this police department has its priorities wrong. Or maybe a war ended and they're getting free surplus from the military and feel it's a waste to not play around with it and intimidate populace a bit. That lady certainly looks wary.

Underrated genre. Sadly most writers are too much of a hack and end up butchering it into steampunk.

>theoretical physicists
>CERN
user, the theoretical physicists are the ones in the back offices crunching numbers, it's the based EXPERIMENTAL physicists who run CERN.
The most theoretical physicists ever ask for is more chalk and bigger blackboards. It's the experimental ones who want to fuck around with big stuff.

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>Wild Territory
Explain this please. There were no large unsettled regions in Europe by the end of the 18th Century, and if you exclude a few areas with extraneous circumstances such as intense raiding and outbreaks of disease this was the case by the end of the middle ages. Is it some magic bullshit or what?

It's an area of dense forest inhabited by fey creatures, which generally made human attempts at settlement fatal. New roads get completely overgrown within weeks, people disappear, shit like that.

Nobody ever tried to burn it down or murder all the subhumans?

They have, on many occasions; humans had been slowly but steadily encroaching on them with settlements and deforestation for centuries by this point, which is a plot point as that and the pollution of the industrial era drove the fey to try to collapse the government and ultimately, due to the party's efforts, to offer alliance in exchange for concessions so we'll help stop the army that has torched almost half the country.

Basically though they'd have to do so much to the land in order to purge the fey from it, that it would make the land useless. So clearing operations and the like have up until the southern invasion generally only been done around valuable real estate like mines.