>When used for their intended purpose: bullying poor, defenseless Armored Cruisers, all alone among enemies, that just wanted to come back home to Kaiser. RIP Scharnhorst, Gneisenau & Blucher - we hardly knew ye - cut down in the prime of their lives.
Brody Lewis
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Adam Rodriguez
Do teaboos seriously think RN BBs were superior?
Oliver Rivera
Not superior. Just better than everyone else's.
Adam Brooks
>not superior >better than everyone
James Bennett
I think he's implying they all sucked, but the British ones sucked the least.
Juan Murphy
Indeed this.
Mason Harris
>posting objective untruths
Alexander Rivera
Whats with battleship autism?
Nolan Morris
RN Teaboos don't want to accept that the day of the BB (and therefore their whole obsolete navy) is over.
It must be particularly depressing given the current condition of the RN. Kek.
Andrew James
everybody loves big ships with big guns
Ethan Green
Small boats with big guns > big boats with big guns desu senpai.
Evan Johnson
i like all boats with all sized guns
Luke Sanchez
The only thing Brits overrate more than their ships is Bismarck.
Alexander Lee
Having the boat that your media spent last 20 years hyping as the mightiest in the world sunk in matter of minutes by an enemy vessel tends to cause such silliness.
James Flores
I remember reading a book as a child which hyped up the Bismarck as some super weapon that would allow Germany to win WW2 if it wasn't stopped by the terribly outmatched Royal Navy its plucky band of Swordfish
I wonder sometimes how these people get published
Brayden Allen
The fun thing about Bismarck is that it was built such that it was basically impenetrable through the side armor belt...but the cost for this design was that the armor belt was so low in the water that hits ABOVE it could effortlessly punch right through and cause catastrophic flooding.
Cooper Ward
After Trafalgar, the Royal Navy maintained its position as the top force not through skill or quality of ships, but rather through sheer numerical/tonnage advantage (And naturally fell off their spot once their industry and economy could no longer sustain it). Am I right in deducing that from what I've read regarding naval history and shipbuilding?
Adrian Baker
Kinda fucked up if you have to hype a rebuilt BC as the mightiest thing afloat. I know she wound up with better protection than Repulse and Reknown, but still.
Dominic Carter
The idea that penetrations this far above the waterline could cause catastrophic flooding is rather peculiar. if you have water entering through holes this far up into your ship, cahcnes are taht you have some other problems.
Bismarck had tons of questionable, bad and outright idiotic design decisions, but flooding from penetrations above the main belt was not something that could result from them.
Not quite.
Well into the 1870, the RN was THE naval force, even though naval technology was changing at a rapid pace. Britain had the shipbuilding industry and shipyards toback up their fleet, and to react to any of the new developments with newly built ships that included all the latest technologies.
But through the 1880 and 90s, France, Germany, the US and Russia industrialized to a degree that their combined fleet building capacity simply outstripped that of Britain. This put quite a lot of pressure on the British, because their idea of maintaining the Two Power standard, even though France quite helpfully shot itself in the foot with their jeune école.
Then along comes the Dreadnought Revolution and Fisher's battlecrusier, and al the ships built over the previus decade are suddenly obsolete. Ironically this is what ended the RN's total dominance by essentially resetting everyone's ship count to zero, allowing the 'new' navies to start on an almost equal footing with the RN. Britain still outbuilt everyone, and it is quite funny to see claims how the HSF might 'rival' the RN while the RN was building more ships in noticably shorter time then the Germans ever could.
But the RN had lost all hopes of maintaining their Two Power standard.
Meh, probably tl;dr. Anyway, enjoy,
Justin Young
>The idea that penetrations this far above the waterline could cause catastrophic flooding is rather peculiar. if you have water entering through holes this far up into your ship, cahcnes are taht you have some other problems.
The Atlantic is a fairly rough ocean at the best of times and the belt is really quite low. Read Nathan Okun's articles on the subject, it explains the matter in exhaustive detail.
What else did they have? Renowns, Revenges, and QEs were older and smaller, Nelrods wouldn't be completed until '27, carriers were still considered something of a joke, and even the most retarded inbred peon would had figured out that they're being fed bullshit if the media tried to claim old 13.5-incher boats as the mightiest ships in the world.
Samuel Martinez
Isn't Jonathan Parshall working on a new book currently?
Isaiah Davis
>combinedfleet.com/okun_biz.htm >Due to the main armored deck's low position in the ship, extensive flooding of the ship above the sloped/flat armored deck is likely if the side armor is holed, which COULD cause serious stability problems and which reduced PROTECTED reserve bouyancy by one complete deck Those may be relevant points, but I maintain my position that Bismarck's design had lots of far more critical weaknesses.
Alexander Moore
>Those may be relevant points, but I maintain my position that Bismarck's design had lots of far more critical weaknesses.
Oh, certainly. I just consider this one one of the more amusing quirks of its design.
Aiden Myers
Fair enough, but why continue to hype it so badly after the Nelrods were out? Why not spread that adoration out a bit so that if the unthinkable does happen, it's not such a blow to morale?
It's like the British don't get that if they pretend a ship is unsinkable, it's going to in the most awful way imaginable.
Michael Morris
It was their go-to ship for cruises around the wrold and other such representative functions, mostly because it had the range and it burnt less fuel than the other choices (Nelson or Rodney)
John Myers
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Noah Hall
>tfw winning the Russo-Japanese War of 1906 as the Russians >tfw living under a treaty that disallows ships bigger than 12k tons or with guns >8" in diameter
Rule the Waves is awesome. Can't wait to build real dreadnoughts in 1910 or so when the treaty expires
Camden Russell
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Alexander Nelson
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Jackson Wilson
why would you do that? put guns on an oil tanker?
Justin Kelly
>not understanding the importance of defending your nation's oil supplies
Adrian White
>'''''''defending''''''' Last time I checked, America's oil defense is a lot like Germany defending lebensraum in the ukraine and along the Volga.
Michael Campbell
Yes, and?
Charles Perez
Any amount of the world's oil supply belonging to a country other than the United States is a grievous crime that must be rectified post haste.
Adam Reed
>nuclear carriers >need oil
Alexander Cox
To fuel their air wing? Yeah.
Cooper Taylor
>air wing if it flies it dies when?
Cooper Evans
>fuel their air wing If you need oil for that, you are doing it wrong.
Xavier Ramirez
This just makes me want scramjet rounds for a ships cannon again. I've thought before that railguns would be a great way of launching one. Didn't they experiment with some for the Iowas, or was that a fever dream I had?
Mason Stewart
It's probbly not worth it compared to something like a GPS guided sabot round for a railgun.
The biggest problem is atmospheric heating/drag right after launch, before the round gets into thinner air.
Noah Roberts
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Brody Jenkins
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Daniel Jones
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Zachary Kelly
Seems like a terrifying thing to have a damn mooring mast and tremendous sail attached to it if the wind really picked up.
Hunter Mitchell
How much lighter/less top-heavy would the Atlantas have been if the forward and aft three-turret sets were replaced with rotary 5-inch cannons? The mass freed up by reducing the number of turrets should be enough for a heavily armored autoloader, and the lowered manpower requirement could mean .2/3-man cabins instead of berthing areas...
Asher Murphy
Why don't the South Dakotas get much love? They're amazing designs given treaty considerations, and could match any battleship built including ones that flagrantly went outside that (cough bismarck cough).
Lucas Myers
SoDaks really do deserve more love.
Ayden Perez
No one likes fatties.
Colton Hill
Did the Texas survive the hurricane? >Hope some of the relief funds go to getting the work it desperately needs done.
Luke Evans
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Kayden Miller
Well, if the wind picks up you just let the airship float away, I guess.
Benjamin Brooks
Totally off topic here, but that thing is a super villain's wet dream.
Jonathan Allen
>super villain
Dominic Nguyen
While designed for kids, this book contains four naval wargames that are still really fun for adults
Been wondering the same, user. Would be a shame to lose her after all this time.
Luis Peterson
Welp, I'm pretty sure Shokaku is done for. >Gets hit by a 1000lb bomb which starts a fire and causes the evacuation of her air wings during the initial battle >Gets hit by a working Mk14 torpedo first thing the next morning >Then this happens When the second wave arrived, they only found Hagikaze. And promptly nuked her with two 1000lbs
Christian Long
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Adam Young
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Anthony Green
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Parker Jones
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Leo Ross
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Christian Garcia
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Ian Rodriguez
>"let's put the mainmast right into the smoke of the main funnel" >- No one ever, except the RN Admiralty ca. 1909
Isaac Perry
Whats a good single player game like War in the Pacific? Is Pacific Storm any good?
David Stewart
Turning a fire control platform into a smokehouse isn't a flaw but a feature.
Alexander Ortiz
Yeah, uh...if it's occluded by smoke the enemy won't be able to aim at it! YESSSSS!
Christopher Jackson
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William Long
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Jonathan Foster
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Thomas Diaz
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Austin Rivera
>Day 53: the crew has still not yet realized I am a submarine
Aiden White
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Nathan Torres
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Brandon Jones
I've been reading into ships from the interwar/WW2 period, and most of what I've come across about IJN is fairly negative in terms of their ship designs. To counter-balance that, what were some of their strong points or things they did well?
Gavin Wright
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Benjamin Martinez
Good submarines (mostly rendered ineffective thanks to their horrible submarine doctrine), most of their cruiser and destroyer designs packed more fire power per ton than their allied counterparts (usually at the price of being top heavy, being less habitable than US&UK vessels, and having rather meh armor), Shoukaku and Zuikaku were among the better carriers in the world when they're completed,