Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1875: Behold! An Edition!

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lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Sir_Gallonhead
Behold! An Edition!
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hairygrape
hairygrape

Do you guys ever do generational chains? Like run one chain for a given amount of time and then start a new chain from your last guy's kid or something?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Hey Regalus, can we import existing gear items as a set of Elite or Evolving Gear? A pistol for the pistol, a weapon for the melee weapon, and a set of armor for the armor core?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Huh. I feel like that was the longest space between threads for awhile.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Poker_Star
You might have better luck in Discord (which I recall you being in).

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Burnblaze
The Australians are all at work, the Americans are currently sleeping. It was probably a Briton who's just properly woken up after several dozen cups of tea.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@hairygrape
No, but I do like to write from a companion/descendant/minion's POV from time to time in the late chain.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Can someone ask Brutus to make a folder for the Tales of [...] series?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Sir_Gallonhead
Behold! An Edition!
Diogenes made this thread

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@VisualMaster
You prolly said that as a joke, but as a citizen of one her former colonies, I can in fact confirm that a lot of us former Colonials more or less run off of tea.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

What jumps can I use to conquer Europe?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@VisualMaster
It is 9:47PM in Melbourne, Australia at the moment.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Ignoramus
Frozen

massdebater
massdebater

@Ignoramus
Generic Islam Jump

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Ignoramus
The Paradox Strategy Jumps?

Snarelure
Snarelure

/tg/thread/56400384#p56408438
Wait, how could she qualify for Caster? Wouldn't Lancer be more accurate considering she's usually depicted with a lance, plus her flag that she stabs people with in FGO?

Skullbone
Skullbone

What's your current power-level, /jc/?
http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Tiering_System

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

What are some of the best technomancy or technopathy perks in the chain?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@CouchChiller
Being an Alpha psyker?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Is there a collective name for the games set in the Ar Tonelico world, like Ar Tonelico, Ciel NoSurge, and Ar NoSurge? Like Masadaverse/Nasuverse/etc.?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Skullbone
Well I'm a one dimensional character, but I think that's measuring something else.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Skullbone
Wherever this guy falls

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Stupidasole
t. powerlet

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Stark_Naked
It is called the EXA_PICO universe according to Tv Tropes.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Stark_Naked
@Methnerd
Confirmed according to the EXA_PICO Wiki.

That particular universe also includes the Surge Concerto Series.

http://artonelico.wikia.com/wiki/The_EXA_PICO_Universe_Wiki

hairygrape
hairygrape

Heya.

/tg/thread/56400384#p56401560

Rockman 4 Minus Infinity is a romhack of Megaman 4 made by Puresabe. I have made a jump of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_uCGzDjMb0

The scenario is based somewhat on the several Shadow Man boss fights in the game, with a few alterations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_X1jul2ujI

/tg/thread/56400384#p56405163

His attacks kill you. I'll update the jump to explain Shadow Man's attacks a bit more thoroughly.

Techpill
Techpill

@hairygrape
What makes it different from the Megaman jumps we already have?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Techpill
That it's rockman not megaman. They are different games.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@massdebater
But that's a peaceful jump. There's no beheading or stoning or raping and pillaging or cutting limbs off for minor crimes. Completely peaceful jump. Just remember god is great.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@whereismyname
It looks like mega man to me and searching it online says it's just a different name for mega man

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Crazy_Nice
It uses megaman as a base but it is different. Never played just heard about it.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Techpill

It offers content that's not already in the existing jump, but is in the romhack. Examples include:

An arena to fight past enemies
A super mode
A statue that generates random curses

Although there is content from the original series (Sakugarne, the Mega Man Killer weapons) these all appear in the game.

The events of the game are different than regular Megaman 4. For example, all of the stages are different; and bosses from past and future games show up in them.

Megaman has to search for Rush and Beat in the final level. Otherwise, they are forever trapped underground in Wily's fortress.

This jump also has a scenario, where you fight Shadow Man.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Crazy_Nice
Are you going to start sperging about fanfiction jumps like you did the other day? Please please dont.

5mileys
5mileys

@whereismyname
It's not actually. All it is is a different version of the base game, which is just a mega man game.

@hairygrape
MIAnon, you'll want to justify the difference between this jump and the existing mega man jumps because it's difficult to see what it is.

likme
likme

@happy_sad
Yeah, if most of the differences are just what you're offering in jump, I don't think that's good enough.

Is the actual story different or is it just the gameplay? Because from what I find online people are saying it's the same story with different gameplay.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@happy_sad
So it's got minor differences because you wanted stuff not offered in the base jump.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@happy_sad
You'll want to focus on what makes the setting different if you want to convince people, not just that you offer different things. If anything, that's likely to only annoy people who care about this sort of thing.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@ZeroReborn
Now I just need to find a little planet in the middle of nowhere to kick about on. Probably tannith before it gets eaten.

Or would the mechanics treat me differently if they found out I was a psyker technomancer? I mean would it be an instant purge or the next coming of a binary saint/ the omnissiah.

massdebater
massdebater

@happy_sad
A jump of a ROM hack just doesn't seem original enough to justify having its own jump. But if you'd be willing to link a wikia or source that explains the setting I can research through, I'd be willing to give it a fair read.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Playboyize
It's like saying mega man classics is different to the other megaman jump. Two examples of jumps that are mote or less the exact same when taken from a setting point of view.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@hairygrape
But the megaman jumps cover different time periods and stories. They're not just a slightly different version of one thing. Even if they were the same guy made them all

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@hairygrape
The other megaman jumps are set far in the future or in a different universe in comparision to megaman classic, covering different games with completely different plots and characters

WebTool
WebTool

@SomethingNew
psyker technomancer
Is that a thing?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@likme

Yeah, it's just an extended version of Mega Man 4 with extra content. We've had fanfic jumps before though (see German Hollow Quest). And I know we've also had jumps that take place at the exact same time as the canon of another jump in that property all made by different jumpmakers (Exalted).

So the only reason I can think of why Rockman 4 MI can't be accepted is that I don't have the original jumpmaker's permission. And it's probably not possible for me to get permission, because two of the people listed who made the jump left ages ago.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@PurpleCharger
Sorry user but you actually need to make the fanfiction jump be different enough. Or at least have a seriously different focus. Your jump doesn't have either. It's very similar and the differences are all just gameplay stuff.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@WebTool
Yea it's a thing. It's an older thing and I'm pretty sure you'd be the only member of that specialisation in the imperium but it is a thing.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@PurpleCharger
Our fanfic jumps are generally very different, not just canon but with a little more stuff. Your jump won't be accepted because it's not different enough.

Don't bother using arguments from existing properties either, no one's gonna care.

King_Martha
King_Martha

NuBee, for the BnHA update, would it be possible to add an option to start at the Illegals time?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@WebTool
@Raving_Cute
Here there is another website with a bit more depth but this is the basics of it.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Psychic_101#Technomancy.2FHeretech

takes2long
takes2long

@Supergrass

Guess it's back to the drawing board, then.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Skullbone
Jumpers have their own Tier

Booteefool
Booteefool

@cum2soon
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Psychic_101#Technomancy.2FHeretech
Danke

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Could someone post the OC reincarnations from Petals of Reincarnation that Val posted in a pastebin? I didn't saved it and it was set to expire.

Techpill
Techpill

Are sailor senshi magic or tech?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@King_Martha
Mmm, why not? Sure, +0 Drawback to turn your experience into something more like Vigilantes? Start earlier, things are a bit darker/comedic compared to the played straight heroism of the main series, things like that. I'll make sure to do so.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Poker_Star
Huh? When did she post them? I don't remember that at all.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Techpill
Mostly magic, some magitech. The Moon kingdom or whatever had a lot of magitech mixing advanced magic with advanced science.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@kizzmybutt
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/56155886/#56160127

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Sir_Gallonhead
You are awesome not completely sure about the tone overhaul, but I will take what I can for extra heroism years

King_Martha
King_Martha

@BunnyJinx
You say that like Americans aren't Colonials too.

And to be fair about half of America (the southern half) still runs off of tea. Only those yankees ever nurtured that anti-tea mindset.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@massdebater
Discounting all romhacks
This nigga aint played some of the pokemon romhacks out there. I'd love Moemon and Touhoumon jumps (though the later has developed enough that someone made a version with its own engine)

TreeEater
TreeEater

@King_Martha

Tea really is wonderful, except us southerners tend to prefer it iced. I still like hot tea but not as much as some good sweet iced tea.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Gigastrength
I agree that there are definitely some romhacks that should work as their own jumps but I think this one doesn't

SniperGod
SniperGod

Can I make a (generic?) final fantasy 7 time travel jump?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@SniperGod
Can I make your mother moan?

The answer is yes.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@SniperGod
Wouldnt that fall under dissidia?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@TreeEater
Aint a surprise, it's hot and humid down here, cold drinks are more in demand.

FastChef
FastChef

@VisualMaster
...I have no idea? I don't really know anything about dissidia other than multicross fighting game.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@SniperGod
No

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Skullbone
There are jumpers who haven't gone full Hadou yet

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Snarelure
Who is the big nose?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Sir_Gallonhead
Wait, did we ever learn when exactly Illegals takes place?
I just realized that I had always assumed it takes place during Deku's 10-month training arc, but I don't think I was ever given any reason to believe this.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@SniperWish
Escanor? Escanor is the strongest human in Seven Deadly Sins, also known as "The Lion Sin of Pride." His power is called 'Sunshine' and causes him to grow more powerful based on the time of day. The closer it is to noon, when the sun is highest in the sky, the greater he becomes. At precisely noon he becomes way more powerful than usual. He's mostly just a weakling during night, where his personality flips around to humble and nervous.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Fried_Sushi
Oh, so he's where that awful power is from? Guess he does look wimpy.

girlDog
girlDog

@StrangeWizard
At least more than two years prior Deku's entrance exam (or a year before the start of the series). Eraserhead refused Midnight's offer to join the UA staff, and we know that he had at least been a homeroom teacher for another promotion before Deku the current 1-A Class.
I think that's the better reference for the time-frame.
@SniperWish
Escanor, the best character from Seven Deadly Sins.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Boy_vs_Girl
awful power is from
Take that back I wouldn't personally take it myself, but it's pretty fun to read even if the author sometimes needs to search for ways for him to not crubstomp everything

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@StrangeWizard
Not that I'm aware of. It just seems to be happening way earlier on given the way certain characters are. @girlDog
mentions one of the better pieces of evidence.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Sir_Gallonhead
I will just use that so I can be part of the same class as the Big 3

SniperGod
SniperGod

@lostmypassword
Secretary a cute. Cute!

WebTool
WebTool

@Boy_vs_Girl
My only problem with the power is that I hate the idea of having to time all my conflicts. I guess it would be less of a big deal if I also used a teleportation power, so I can just teleport in wherever I need to be at the right time.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@WebTool
Bastard
Right Time In The Wrong Place
You can take advantage of this narrative so that the ‘time’ is always right
for you. If you may only transform when the moon is full, it will always act as if it was full for you. If you could only access your true powers at night, then it will be as if it was always night for you.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@WebTool
Honestly, the power just gives you a boost from your base power, so it's not a big deal. It's not like you are powerless like Escanor during night.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@SniperGod
Why don't you make the jump so you can companion her?

Pick and Origin and an Allegiance.
Allegiance:
Good
Evil
Unaffiliated

Origin:
Drop-in
Minion/"Side-Kick"
General/Hero
Scientist

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Stark_Naked
Do we even have enough material yet? Chapters are very short and we had like three small arcs (presentation, the meeting/infiltration and the beach arc)

farquit
farquit

@Spamalot
What series?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Stark_Naked
@lostmypassword
Get your Roach Waifu today!

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Snarelure
How do I become a god?

likme
likme

@Snarelure
Hadou

You guys can't even coexist without Tasogare's Law. Gudou (without cap) is superior.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Emberfire
Sounds fair to me.

Techpill
Techpill

@farquit
Black General-san

whereismyname
whereismyname

@likme
(without cap)
How would one get rid of the cap? Have a pic as incentive.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@likme
Why can't their be multiple Hadou gods? Haven't played Dies Irae yet.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@w8t4u
Use either of these:
A Really Wild Adventure- It’s not really necessary for you to see what you want to learn. Just having it described to you, and it actually existing, is enough for you to be capable of buying it with skill points albeit at a greatly increased cost. On the other hand, the more you actually know about the ability, the lesser this cost will get. Actually seeing it and it being demonstrated and taught to you may even lower the point cost to below its’ original level.
Angel, Not Former-Demon (400) (...) Like Keiichi you bear a special ability to use powers or beings without meting normally inflatable prerequisites like 'be a God(dess)', and bear a being of unique origins like Blue Lance. + Beast of Possibility from Dies Irae itself
@likme
Implying I hadn't already planned to companion Marguerite all along. I could also just use Toggle to remove that part.
@whereismyname
Not the same user, but you can either use Free Climbing (to raise it beyond the limit) or Medaka Sue (to remove the cap). Both are from Medaka Box.
@Deadlyinx
Hadou Gods are expansive. All of them are trying to make reality work under their personal Law, so in order to resolve the conflict they will fight each other until only one is standing to paint all reality with their Law. Marie's Hadou Law allows for multiple gods to exist at the same time without this happening.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Deadlyinx
Since Hadou gods have laws that are supposed be imposed on all of reality, multiple Hadou gods can't really exist at the same time. They're destined to just kick each other's asses until one remains. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Deadlyinx
They engage in Highlander logic and decide whose Law dictates reality via fighting to the death. THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Nojokur
...why do gods tend to be the dumbest beings.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Soft_member
IT IS TRADITION!

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Soft_member
I mean, would you accept having another asshole trying to impose their rule over yours? Also, they have very defined power-levels, so the battles are usually quickly resolved.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Soft_member
It's inherent in the system, so I don't think its entirety voluntary.

Real talk, did anyone here actually press the Atzulith button and basically re-paint all of reality each jump?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@CodeBuns
What if the laws they are trying to impose don't conflict? Or is that inevitable?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Deadlyinx
Re-paint all of reality
Unless your Law is similar to Marie, you will probably fuck most settings beyond recognition. Given that we are purchasing Briahs just to get cool powers, I don't think that would be a good idea. It's best to toggle it off.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@JunkTop
Not the same user, but you can either use Free Climbing (to raise it beyond the limit) or Medaka Sue (to remove the cap). Both are from Medaka Box.
Alright thanks for this.

@JunkTop
Angel, Not Former-Demon (400) (...) Like Keiichi you bear a special ability to use powers or beings without meting normally inflatable prerequisites like 'be a God(dess)', and bear a being of unique origins like Blue Lance. + Beast of Possibility from Dies Irae itself
Is this from Konosuba too?

Soft_member
Soft_member

How dangerous is The Circumstances Leading to Waltrautes Marriage?

I haven't read the visual novel but based off of the jump it is continent level. Is it a particularly dangerous place?

idontknow
idontknow

@Fuzzy_Logic
I don't know the details, but it seems like from what other people are saying here in the thread that only specific types of laws would be able to make the laws enforced by multiple Hadou Gods play nice.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Soft_member
It's pretty dangerous. It's norse myth stuff and there's a lot of monsters and near doomsday stuff. Only the very highest level gets to continent stuff though.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@idontknow
That would explain pagan gods.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Does the Safari Zone count as a Route?

farquit
farquit

@Snarelure
For Pokemon? Probably not but you could always just choose the closest route or town. The safari zone is more or less just a zoo that's on a route. It'd also depend on the region though.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Right, this took too long. Dies Irae update.

True Outsider has been swapped out for Golden Ending as a perk.
The Heart now explains companion slot interaction.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@viagrandad
Why did you swap true outsider?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Snarelure
I doubt it - it doesn't lead anywhere. It's a dead end, at least the Kanto one is.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@lostmypassword
Couldn't get across what it did and did not apply to to a satisfactory degree. Among other things.

hairygrape
hairygrape

I hate to clog up the thread with yet more Fate questions, but how do elements work in Nasu? According to the wiki, it seems to be freeform, or at least freeform in the sense of what elements make up a particular system (Fire, Water, Metal, Wood, Earth vs. Fire, Air, Water, Earth, Void, etc) as long as it makes a modicum of sense, but is it really? Would an elemental affinity like Lightning or Steam make up it's own category or would it fall under the auspices of Air, or Water?

Techpill
Techpill

@viagrandad
YES good plan!

Flameblow
Flameblow

@likme
Gudou (without cap) is superior.
Outright lies by the anti milliner coalition.
Gudou w/almost any cap > gudou without cap >>>> gudou w/fedora.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@TreeEater
@farquit
Kanto, yes. I need to know for Starter pricing.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@hairygrape
Actually elements are pretty set in stone as the ones you see on the wiki. Fire, water, earth, wind, ether, imaginary numbers and demons. Stuff like lightning's made by mixing those elements, but you could probably wank it as your family's Sorcery Trait if you want.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@StonedTime
Safari zone is inside a town, the pokemon inside should count as whatever their rarity in the zone is. Just my 2 cents.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@GoogleCat
Sorcery trait
No, you couldn't. None of the jumps give that as an option.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@viagrandad
Would Golden Ending let multiple Hadou gods exist at the same time?

FastChef
FastChef

@LuckyDusty
Yes, user, yes.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Bidwell
Bit silly to be born a mage and have no sorcery trait at all.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@SomethingNew
You don't know what a sorcery trait is do you

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I roll for my jumps and this time I rolled Hive Queen Quest. I was thinking about being an AI, but the jump isn't great about explaining what my physical form would be like. It says I fled human space, so I guess I'm a computer on a space ship?

Could anyone who knows Hive Queen Quest maybe clarify?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@SomethingNew
Sorcery Traits are special abilities, not all magi have them. Are you thinking of Origins or Elements?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@viagrandad
There is no in-jump way to survive Laws
Why

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@SniperGod
You mentioned playing SH last thread, was that Silent Hill? Would you think about making a jump for that? If not, is there any surprise jumps ready?

farquit
farquit

@DeathDog
Is this from Konosuba too?
It's from Ah! My Goddess

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Sharpcharm
Youbare an AI. Your physical form is whatever hardware you are loaded into, since you get a free survey drone that is probably your body.

Techpill
Techpill

@Flameblow
I think got the arrows wrong

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Dreamworx
Was watching an LP, actually. I've thought about and even tried making it a few times actually. Generally agree with the common idea of it being two separate jumps but the two times I tried, in private anyway, to make a normal jump version I just got stuck. I could think up stuff obviously but none of it really felt good to me, so I left it. And recently, when I thought about the gauntlet version, I realised it was kinda just a pain to do if all you wanted was to go through that gauntlet.

Anyway, while I ain't gonna do that stuff, I do have two or three surprises lined up. Short things that I shouldn't take long to do but I'm trying to get one more claim done before I post any of them.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@GoogleCat
For context, I'm asking this in reference to Original-MX and it's boosted version in Fate/Zero.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Poker_Star
@Emberburn
@TreeEater

Nevermind, I was misremembering the Lorelei one from SN. Anyway in that case there aren't really any weird elemental affinities like that so far in the franchise.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Sharpcharm
Ai get a free survey drone to use as a body. Though the physical body is just a shell you are literally made of data as an ai. Alternately you get the survey drone to upload yourself into sone other tech, ships work nice for this, you can exist in pretty much any data storage and computing device.

askme
askme

@Emberburn
Yeah, that’s why, while I made a jump for the A Super Mario Thing series of ROM hacks, I don’t have any intention of making a jump for, say, The Second Reality Project. ASMT was wacky and different enough to justify its own jump, but something that is only slightly different from the normal version seems more iffy to me.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@askme
Well, glad you get to toot your own horn there and then CW.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@haveahappyday
@Bidwell
Thanks, I'll go with that.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

You guys lied to me. Sheild hero is not good.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Gigastrength
I don't even remember "Sheild hero" ever being talked about here anyway.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@New_Cliche
Dang. The wording on the booster confused me. Ah, well.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@BunnyJinx
Like 3 or 4 threads back user.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Gigastrength
What did you expect? It's a typical harem isekai story with an edgy twist.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@viagrandad

Well shit now I'm forced to ask if Legendary Hero would protect against a Universal reset.

Evilember
Evilember

@Carnalpleasure
Upload yourself into the item from the justice league unlimited jump. The one that can absorb a planet within a week or something. Hell even better option is to go to the polity and get the Jain node or steal a bunch of them. Remove the traps in it and you have self evolving super tech. Like shit is just stupid good from what I remember being told about it.

Of course that you'll have to wait to roll those jumps. Pity the jump list still hasn't been updated.

WebTool
WebTool

@Gigastrength
I'm pretty sure at least one person told you shield hero was bad.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Evilember
Yeah, that's something to look forward to! Thanks for the idea. There's a jump list in the SB drive uploads folder that seems up to date.

girlDog
girlDog

@Methnerd
two or three surprises
Okay, Val, seriously. What form of black magic do you use to rapidly produce jumps? What sorcery, what witchcraft?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@girlDog
Like I said, Val is secretly an AI.

WebTool
WebTool

@girlDog
Clearly she is a succubus and is draining NuBee's soul to use for black magic rituals.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@WebTool
I don't think it's his soul being drained...

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Lunatick
It is his brain isn't it?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@WebTool
Implying that NuBee isn't in control
He took out OldBee
After he and Val were together she has become a jumpmaking machine
All her friends have disappeared, their claims slowly being taken by Val
He is clearly the monster here

Skullbone
Skullbone

Hey Valeria, are you still going to write that end game scenario in the Dies Irae jump where we have to face Hajun in a straight up fight with almost all of his weaknesses gone or did you change your mind about that?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@WebTool
@Lunatick
@Poker_Star
I have both my soul and my brain, thank you. I use those for making Jumps and cooking and other things probably.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Firespawn
I have both my soul and my brain, thank you. I use those for making Jumps and cooking and other things probably.

Well of course you do, that is what your regen perks are for.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Firespawn
You cook using your soul?

girlDog
girlDog

@Playboyize
Don't forget that Val was in a relationship before NuBee and NuBee likes talking about how much he loves monsters. Not to mention that he's one of the few people who have been here from the start, he makes a point of saying that. How many scandals has NuBee been in though? None. How many shitstorms has he been involved in? None. He's almost too clean. . .

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Dreamworx
Do you not?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@viagrandad
I guess I have been doing it wrong all this time...

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@CodeBuns
Regen perks are pretty sweet. . .

@Dreamworx
If you don't put your soul, passion and heart into your cooking, then can you really say you made something?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Playboyize
@girlDog
NuBee was the True Final Boss all along

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Skullbone
Hajun in a straight up fight with almost all of his weaknesses gone

Isn't that...basically a thin pretense for suicide by Hadou God? Hajun's power is "Everything except me is obliterated".

WebTool
WebTool

@viagrandad
Just thought to ask but is there anyway you could make it so Apoptosis gets a Briah of the same level as your own or lower for free? Considering they are supposed to be your equal I mean.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@kizzmybutt
If you don't put your soul, passion and heart into your cooking, then can you really say you made something?
I do not want to make others into canniVals though.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@PurpleCharger
"Oh no, I'd never erase somebody. I have a strict moral code."
"I'm just happy with everyone getting along."
"I dress, act, style and build like a villain. Just for fun though~! I'm always the hero."
"Why do I make Jumps for the darkest, most tragic or infuriating places? Hahaha"
"Haha, I'm not a trap. You guys are silly billys. I'll keep encouraging the jokes about me being harmless though."
"Val is just so honest, passionate and amazing. I love everything about her and imagine her in my chains now. Cannibal god stuff? I don't know what you're talking about."
"Look how humble I am with my self-depreciation! I don't think I'm better than anyone."
Dear god. . .

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Spamalot
Wrong type of putting your soul into cooking!

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

What are some good perks that protect against emotional manipulation?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@viagrandad
Uh. It seems that Apoptosis has the note saying they do not take up a companion slot so long as they remain inside you, not The Heart.

...If that isn't deliberate, I mean. I'm not sure about how many Jumpers would be willing to do THAT all the time for an extra companion slot, but hey. I've got not place to judge here.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Ignoramus
Oh my, the waifu jumpers must not see this.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Need_TLC
Depends on if you mean normal emotional manipulation or someone manipulating your emotions with magic or other supernatural powers.

For the first Take What You Know (Investigation) or Inference Engine (Worm) should be good. It's hard to be manipulated when you know exactly what the guy trying it is doing after all.
Most social perks that are more about learned social skills than natural charisma should also work (Hero BBS has one for drop-in iirc).

For the second the only one coming to mind that explicitly deals with emotion manipulation is Enlightenment (Kung Fu Hustle), though i'm sure there's more.
Also any perk that protects against mental influence should work for that, like Gamer's Mind (The Gamer), the World Items from Overlord, My Name is Jake (Animorphs) or Dream Power (Kirby).

Soft_member
Soft_member

Planning on adding a shota Servant to my retinue. Substituting skills where appropriate, which of these guys has the best shot of seeing me through a Singularity? https://pastebin.com/fbCMRcVc

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Ignoramus
Technically an apoptosis also part of you. Just like your souls in Exalted. It wouldn't be that strange.
@viagrandad
Speaking of souls... Would a companion option (maybe without Relic and not importable) to have your soul split into two beings like Shirou would be possible?

likme
likme

@Soft_member
A Pastebin linking to several forum posts instead of the information itself.
Oh just fuck right off.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Gigastrength
He also isn't denying any of this... @TalkBomber

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Soft_member
Shota Lazarus
wut

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Gigastrength
Probably could make a ok jump out of it.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Emberburn
Nah, we're good user. It's pretty funny though.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@SniperGod
Isekai stories make for easy jumps, who could have thought

Lunatick
Lunatick

@iluvmen
Is it cheating if I fuck my apoptosis?

farquit
farquit

@Nojokur
So you admit being a demon?

askme
askme

@Gigastrength

Shield Hero
Good

...Damn son, this is worse than the time the thread convinced me to read fanfics.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Lunatick
Apparently same sex apoptosis make for best friends and opposite sex make for destined lovers

StonedTime
StonedTime

@askme
Hey Ricord, in Magico, can we import someone for the free destined love or just ingonere it? I'm all in for expanding harems, but I have too many OCs to take care of already

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Gigastrength
All Isekai are trash, also I have never seen someone calling it good. Mediocre at best.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Emberfire
I don't see it? If it only goes up to 900 then it isn't updated.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Gigastrength
You want something good?
Watch this delicious crack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv3DedNXN4o

It would make an interesting jump.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@farquit
I've probably been a demon at least once or twice.

@BinaryMan
I can think of one example to prove you wrong.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Soft_member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1qnRv-fuxQ

Ophiogenes > Lazarus with 2nd NP > Edward VI if there's someone else to do the fighting > Lazarus without the 2nd NP > Edward VI alone in terms of survival.

Edward VI > Ophiogenes > Lazarus in terms of cute.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@BinaryMan
All Isekai is trash
I knew you had a horrible taste...

likme
likme

@viagrandad
Oh man. I loved that movie

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Need_TLC
True.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Ignoramus
Wait no found it. Cheers for that I've been needing a more up to date version for my own chain.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Raving_Cute
Have you ever been a demon in bed?

You know, demanding blood sacrifices and worship. You weren't thinking of anything lewd were you?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@StonedTime

Sure you can!

@kizzmybutt

Uh, you convinced me to take that option. I'm always in for more waifus.

TechHater
TechHater

@viagrandad
Jump when? lol

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Skullbone
Nah, I don't like blood.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@BinaryMan
Only avatarfag when you release the jump. If working on the jump is so hard, too bad. It's literally the one requirement to meet and you haven't met it.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Burnblaze
We need more Tales of ... series jumps.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@viagrandad
Oh wow. This Jump has so much fun stuff in it. Animal summoning, creating bodies for spirits, and so on. Also a lot of freaky stuff.

How safe is this setting? Can I NOT go and eat 1,000,000,000 Souls and just stay street level for 10 years to get by?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Alright, made a jump of an actual property this time! Kero Blaster, v0.9. Awaiting feedback.

Methshot
Methshot

In Danmachi why isn't A Living Blade discounted for Adventurers?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Nojokur
pump-action wizards staff
So, where can I get something like this?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Need_TLC
RWBY. If you want a staff and a pump-action shotgun, that is.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@TalkBomber
I feel like X, Y, Z should probably have more detail. At the very least a description of what Kaeru turning the world inside out actually did on the practical level so we have a benchmark.

Negativus Legatia costing 200 when other backgrounds can take Zombeat for just 100 is pretty weird senpai.

Shop Bubble
While two frogs will run the store here, they cannot come with you in your adventures beyond this world.
Aww. Can we please keep them as followers/NPCs, them being unable to leave the shop's premises, at least?

Illusionz
Illusionz

I Am The Law - Dredd
I Can Make A Difference - Dredd
You Are Not Alone - Worm
You Can Be More - Worm
We Stand Together - Worm
Even If There Is No God Or Buddha - Kamen Rider Showa Part 1
Sage of the Forest - Hero BBS
Beacon of Hope - Kantai Collection

What other perks can I add to this in one form or another to ensure that HOPE AND JUSTICE SPREAD ACROSS THE MULTIVERSE.

FUCK YOUR GRIMDARK.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Methshot
Same reason that the top item isn't discounted for mercs/SOLDIERS in FFVII

takes2long
takes2long

@viagrandad
If we take Fourth level of Briah and we take the same as Reinhard, do we will still have Einherjar that we gained in one jump in next jump ?

Techpill
Techpill

@Illusionz
That one genre shift perk from evangelion will do it in one. Kinda cheating though.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Illusionz
Stop trying to distract people from Dies Irae.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Illusionz
Heart of a Hero - My Hero Academia

Thats all I got atm, sorry.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@BlogWobbles
Stop being a passive aggressive little cuck that halfheartedly shits on anything popular, but plays both sides because the vicarious feeling of being in an angry mob is all you know of happiness.

Oh wait, you can't.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Illusionz
I do believe Jorge Joestar has a Capstone, in the Drop-In tree as I recall, which could be helpful in erasing the more mundane darknesses without having to solve every illness and calm every rebellion yourself.

Both NGE and Infinite Warfare have genre-shifting perks, but last I checked neither had much in the way of practical power.

Jump Dies Irae. Become a hadou god. Overwrite the multiverse with the Law of JUSTICE. Doitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoit.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Illusionz

Post-Apocalyptic Savior (Fist of the North Star)
Blank Ticket (Trigun) [also Love & Peace!]
Golden Ending (Dies Irae)
Not a Child + Get Some Perspective (Gaim)

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

If I'm going for a magic knight/battlemage build in Overlord, should I go Mage and buy the Warrior classes or just go Drop In and dip into classes from both of the others?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Carnalpleasure
X, Y, Z

Could have explained X, Y, Z a bit better. It's essentially a debug mode. Reality warping, but you can only use chunks of what's already there.

Negativus Legatia

It was originally 100. I priced it like that mainly because of how the perks in its tree synergized so well to have the user become practically impossible to find. Kero Blaster is a low-power jump, where the characters are equipped with at best a jetpack and a gun.

Shop Bubble

Sure, why not.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Firespawn
Spoiler
It already happened once, sorta.

She believes herself to be the ultimate "justice" and the only true virtuous being, believing that she should not and cannot feel any sort of guilt from her actions. Therefore,her Law enables her to decide that any individual that does not agree with her intentions and beliefs will be labeled as "evil" and any objective morality that encompasses herself as the ultimate "right". Thus, her beliefs and actions became the objective "truth", as she embodies the only true righteousness.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Fried_Sushi
Drop in would probably be the better option.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Illusionz
I'm going to shill for a few moments here.

Odd - Katawa Shoujo
So you can make sure people stand there and listen to you rant at them about HOPE AND JUSTICE even when they normally wouldn't.
Energetic - Katawa Shoujo
People just have a harder time feeling depressed when you're around.
"Everybody doesn't believe in God for at least a few minutes each day." - Night in the Woods.
By sharing some of your faith, whatever that might be, with others you can bolster their own. Even helps you heal mental afflictions they might have.
"And here, a weapon against Evil." - The Fifth Element
Blast evil without having to worry about harming innocent people. Turning this into a beam of pure Hope isn't too far of a stretch.
"Shooting will only make It stronger." - The Fifth Element
By appealing to the tiny spark of goodness that exists inside everyone, you will know exactly what to say to call a halt to violence for a few minutes at least.
"One... little... cherry." - The Fifth Element
A talent for being where you are needed most, even if you don't know where that is when you leave.
Sense of Destiny - Divinity: Original Sin
Kind of like the last one, with a side order of being much harder to kill when you're not fighting for something truly important.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Boy_vs_Girl
If you think about it, both Daten Naraku and Hisouten could also be described as imposing their idea of justice through their Law.

Regardless of that, I was just having a giggle because of how poor of an idea trying to bindly enforce justice through a Law would be, even without the canon examples of similar things being extremely flawed.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Illusionz
You might wanna take a look at the Drop-In Perk tree from Devil Survivor 2.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Nude_Bikergirl
...and done! The Kero Blaster jump is officially released.

Inmate
Inmate

@Nude_Bikergirl
You might want to get more than one review before you throw it on the drive.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Inmate

I know. I'm a pretty fast worker, I guess. Though, I'd appreciate feedback if anyone had any?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

How durable is Nth Metal?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@takes2long
I think she said yes, but that was before the jump was released.

TechHater
TechHater

@Crazy_Nice
Durable the Nth degree. In all seriousness it depends upon the comic or show. Some are stupid strong some are not.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Fried_Sushi
Go Drop In as a Sorcerous Swordsman and cross purchase Magic Warrior and a Magic Caster class. This makes you an effective magic knight who's good at both melee and magic, particularly in using your magic to gain advantages over your opponent and otherwise enhance your combat power. You're able to cast spells up to 10th tier with effectiveness, especially if you pick up Unified Focus and Magical Powerhouse.

Don't buy Warrior classes as a Magic Caster. While doing so gives you the full benefit of that class in terms of skill it results in significantly reduced effectiveness because you have the stats of a Magic Caster. Meaning your physical stats are much lower than even a weak Warrior of equivalent level.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@TechHater
What about the Justice League Unlimited version? I’m kind of tempted to buy the replenishing supply of it, but I want to know how tougher it is first.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@TechHater
@Booteefool
how tough* it is

massdebater
massdebater

@whereismyname
Meaning your physical stats are much lower than even a weak Warrior of equivalent level.
Not really much of a problem for a jumper, is it? They can get the physical stats from hundreds of other jumps.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@SniperGod
How safe is this setting?
Chances are that you will either spent your 10 years suffering multiversals resets. Those resets may be accompanied by several multiversal erasing attacks.
Having a bazillion souls will not help you against the gods. And you will have at least two of them battling before most resets.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@whereismyname
@VisualMaster
Is it worth forgoing Over Rank Magic?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@haveahappyday
Unfortunately couldn't answer that. I've never actually seen JLU, Nth metal is more for fucking with magic than actual power too. And the Thanagarians use it in most of their tech so it's probably pretty good. Don't expect it to be a super metal though.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Techpill
@haveahappyday
@Firespawn
@Fuzzy_Logic
@Nude_Bikergirl
@DeathDog
My friends, thank you.

Pic very much related.

Soft_member
Soft_member

So mcu magic has the mirror dimension strangeness and allows for some pretty funky space folding shenanigans, how do I use this along with its shiny magic weapons to make tea?

massdebater
massdebater

@LuckyDusty
Aside from Wish, you are not missing anything. The most hax abilities are skills (Dimensional Slash, Aegis, TGoaLiD, fooling reality)

TreeEater
TreeEater

@LuckyDusty
Yes. Over-Rank Magic is powerful but it's nothing spectacular that we've seen so far, particularly with the recharge time. There's no spell that makes you go "Oh yeah, a level 100 Warrior would die instantly from that."

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Snarelure
Would having immunity to time resets help with that?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@LuckyDusty
Personally? Yes. Overrank Magic is pretty much just the same as any other Epic spellcasting from any other system.

The martial Super Skills are much harder to find an equivalent in other places.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@StrangeWizard
Fair enough, thanks user. I’ll just say it’s better then any Earth metal but not the end all be all. Maybe about as tough as the metal Gundams use?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@LuckyDusty
Are you going in as a player or local?

girlDog
girlDog

@SniperWish
I guess. It wouldn't do nothing if they start fighting and Mercurius destroys the multiverse as his first move. And usually he does that when he starts fighting.

farquit
farquit

@Soft_member
Why would you need to use the space folding and energy weapons? Just read up on/ask how Strange does his beer-creating trick, should be easy enough to adapt to tea.

hairygrape
hairygrape

I always knew all of you people were Nazis.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@farquit
If it cannot help make tea what good is learning it!?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Skullbone
Special tier.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Nude_Bikergirl
This feels really basic. I mean, I don't see anything really wrong with it, but there's no fluff to it. I'm reading it and I get no sense of the world at all from it. I barely know who the good guys and bad guys are. Also,

SHIFt-JIS [600] - And now, you have the possibility for world domination. The more of a presence you and your Negativus Legatia have in the world, the more the people of the world you are in are given to your mindset.

Does this seriously passively mindbend an entirely planet to your will if there are enough of the little minions wandering around it? No effort, no time, just walking around turning stress into these Negativus and people start thinking you're the best thing ever? And these others capstones are all over the place. X, Y, Z is really limited, but total, reality warping, SUKIMA is nothing but resistance to stress, and then True Colors is total resistance to anything that would try to chance your emotional state.

Honestly, this just feels like a shopping list and nothing else. Like you don't care about this world at all. Sorry if that comes off as a little brutal, but that's how I feel.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@girlDog
Carl
God's name is Carl

RavySnake
RavySnake

@hairygrape
Come with me for questioning.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Stupidasole
My advice is that you wait out a thread so that you can get input, put in fixes after the thread archives, put the fixed version on the next thread, wait it out, and if no one has a problem with it put it on the drive. But if someone has a problem with it, rinse and repeat.

That's how I generally work.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

What perks out there scale something to your intelligence?

I'm trying to make use of that one perk from Evo that scales your instincts to intelligence and make some kinda daisy chain of scaling perks to keep boosting my instincts like that.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@hairygrape
Say what you want, they have fantastic fashion sense. I've killed millions for less.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@StrangeWizard
Only thing I can think of is Body of a Mind (or whatever it's called) from Smite. That and a similar perk from Green Lantern the Animated Series called Work Smarter, and Harder for more permanent improvements.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@PurpleCharger
It's definitely stronger than most Earth metals. IIRC they use it for starship hulls. Might be wrong on this and they just use an alloy thoug.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@hairygrape
You can be one too user.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@hairygrape
@RavySnake
I did Nazi this coming. I’m so shocked, I’ve fallen out of Mein Kampfy chair.

Methshot
Methshot

@RavySnake
Well I knew my mouth was gonna get me in trouble at some point.

@Booteefool
Hugo Boss really did good work there.

Evilember
Evilember

@Poker_Star
Well, it's probably good to practise doing magic before you get to the tea-making?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@hairygrape
You say that like it's a bad thing

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@viagrandad
That does help, actually. Thanks.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Snarelure
Wait, so I only have to spend 10 years here, right? So even if the universe got reset, wouldn't I just have to wait it out for 10 years?

Not sure how I'd deal with universe erasing stuff other then possible not being in that universe.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

What is a good place to grind EXP from Weakness of Beatrice I don't have enough points to reasonably afford abyssal growth as much as i want to.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@StrangeWizard
I think one of the Magician perks from Demon's Souls scales the effectiveness of your magic to your intelligence.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Illusionz

World-spanning:
Anthropic Principle (Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare)
BEYOND (Jorge Joestar)
Umineko magic might be able to do it.
Holy Diver (R-TYPE)

Less world-spanning:

Have You Ever Seen A Miracle (Blade Runner)
Squad Leader perk tree (R-TYPE)

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Are there any places you can get a bottomless supply of mana from? I wanna go crazy with Upgrade from Iskeai.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@haveahappyday
WWI was before the Nazis, REEEEEEEEEEEE

takes2long
takes2long

@Skullbone
Wait how did Vortex Blaster kill Azathoth when Elder God couldn't?

Techpill
Techpill

@haveahappyday
@w8t4u
a Loli Nazi and a Pu-Nazi.

What next, Baby Nazi-@RumChicken

Well... Shit.

Evilember
Evilember

@Nude_Bikergirl
Smt jump choose to become a Demon that's a Boss since they have infinite MP.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@hairygrape
Jumpchain Thread, 1940, Colorized

StonedTime
StonedTime

Work hurts the Heavens.

Are there any new or impending jumps I missed? I'm still mentally drawing notes for IG.

Also, have the Tau gotten any new lore/fluff in the last four years?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Nude_Bikergirl
It's not bottomless to start, but Mushoku Tensei has Leaky Limiter, which lets you expand your pool by the amount of mana you use, potentially doubling it if you use all of your mana.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@StonedTime
Dies Irae dropped, and utterly nothing else of value has been noted since then.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Nude_Bikergirl
Get Leaky Limiter from Mushoku Tensei, Final Casting from Maoyuu, and a mana restoration perk such as Dragonheart from Fate/Stay Night. Blow your magical load once a day to effectively double your reserves the next day. Repeat until you have enough mana to power the entire universe.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Nude_Bikergirl
Get leaky emitter from mushoku tensei and terrarria has a perk to quickly regen all mana. Dump all your mana and double up.

girlDog
girlDog

@StonedTime
pic

Man Aqua looks so happy while all the other characters are so depressed, what's up with that?

likme
likme

@Nude_Bikergirl
@Sharpcharm
I'm forced to disagree on SUKIMA, as the perk seems to me to be primarily intended to let you deal with any amount of bullshit heaped on your plate, even if you have little to no knowledge or skill. Theoretically, anyway, the perk does require that you still act yourself. The stress resistance feels more like an after thought to me, a nicety given due to the nature of the setting's main enemies.

As for SHIFt-JIS... this might just be, as some would say, me limitwanking things... but I feel as if it's not that bad. If there's a direct connection between the presence of your mooks and the perk's effects, then I don't think it's that powerful. In a mundane setting, this might well be unstoppable, but I find it difficult to imagine any world with extraordinary people wouldn't be able to mow them down like a groundskeeper cuts the grass.

I do agree that the jump just feels really, really, empty though.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@girlDog
Subhuman intelligence. Not even once.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@girlDog
Well Satan Aqua is an idiot.

massdebater
massdebater

@Nude_Bikergirl
Grab a mana storage device, like the wand of orcus from demons of astlan, get gold to magic from makers of magic, get supreme commander build tech, and make a gold factory over top of a ritual site to pum mana into your storage battery

Methshot
Methshot

@haveahappyday
still no tanya jump
You guys fucking blow.

TreeEater
TreeEater

If I take a perk that allows me to work on levels then eat a rare candy will I level up?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Nude_Bikergirl
With Leaky Limiter use upgrade on your mana capacity, both upgrade and the use of all your mana will increase your mana pool. Repeat for as much mana as you want. You'll also need a good source of mana regeneration to make best use of this though.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Methshot
Then make one if you want it so badly. Making jumps is so fucking easy if time consuming.

@TreeEater
Unless you were a pokemon, no.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Nude_Bikergirl
The Heaven's Feel ritual from Fate/Stay Night, done using the 3rd True Magic, makes your mana regen "yes". Upgrade your mana capacity as much as you need to, then get to work.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@TreeEater
Remember kids. Rare Candy addiction is a serious problem for Pokemon and Trainers who try them even once. Be a responsible ten year old and train your pokemon naturally.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@TreeEater
Rare Candies: Not Even Once. Grind your EVs properly kids.

Inmate
Inmate

@eGremlin
But I am a pokemon in at least 1 altform.

@Dreamworx
ITS NOT AN ADDICTION I CAN STOP ANY TIME I WANT!

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Inmate
I CAN STOP ANY TIME I WANT!
Do you want to stop, though?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Evilember
@VisualMaster
@Dreamworx
@Crazy_Nice
@massdebater
@BlogWobbles
@Ignoramus

leaky limiter only costs 200CP
I was expecting at least 800, hot damn. Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I was also thinking of using Upgrade on the ring that enhances soul gathering in Demon's Souls, then getting the Drop-In capstone so I can use souls to upgrade stuff too. Maybe use Upgrade on the mana regen ring too.

TechHater
TechHater

@Sharpcharm
No why would I?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@RumChicken
Its because in that setting literally anyone can do it. The catch is you have to start when you are literally too young to be able to form words.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@TechHater
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doesn't move
Consider me triggered.

FastChef
FastChef

I know the Generic HP Fanfic isn't getting accepted here, as it's not been posted yet and such but is there anywhere with a drawback similar to the time extension one in it? I like the idea of staying for longer than 10 years but most of the ones we have just continuously double that time or have set timescale. Cheers in advance.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@RumChicken
Also go grab the perk in Maoyuu Hero And Demon that lets you use all your mana in one spell. As Leaky Limiter more or less doubles your mana every time you use it all you can go forever.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Nude_Bikergirl
Scaling The Wall plus Only Humen from Majikoi. Gives infinite supply, but finite amount you can use in any one effect limited by how much you could use if you didn't have the perk. Still pretty good.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Where is the best Mana Regen in the chain?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

What is a good place to kill tons of stuff guilt free preferably with endless spawning enemies (warehouse attachment recommendations would be appreciated.)

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@JunkTop
Terraria

Bidwell
Bidwell

@FastChef
Generic Xianxia
Stellaris

Inmate
Inmate

@Need_TLC
The Gamer. Get Instant Dungeons, just make one in your Warehouse.

likme
likme

@Need_TLC
Go to code lyoko, get the genius perks and buy the computer. Kill mobs forever.

Evilember
Evilember

@Sir_Gallonhead
How much many you use at any time is how much is added to your total mana pool, so to double it you'd need to use all of your mana. It's a pretty damn good perk.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Bidwell
I thought Generic Xianxia was a double your time thing?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@LuckyDusty
You can do it infinitely and for some stupid reason, it gives you infinite CP too.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Sir_Gallonhead
Funny thing is the blast is maximised by something akin to x500 so imagine how powerful that shits gonna be.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Need_TLC
Terraria has Frequent Flyer Miles which might be up your alley?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@JunkTop
That's pretty hilarious seeing as the whole point of Xianxia is that you cultivate for fucking eons.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Where can i buy a giant Tree as a property that follows me?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Bidwell
Age of Ice, buy the Yggdrasil. They don't get much bigger.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Bidwell
Stellaris
Valkyrie Crusade

Snarelure
Snarelure

@JunkTop
To be fair, the doubling means that to get all the things you're going to be stuck there for a trillion times longer than the age of our universe. A min-maxer could say that it gives them tons of time to train, but honestly that sounds so boring. And also kind of antithetical to Jumpchain, really. All the other jumps we have added together would get you about a hundred thousand years, give or take. Compare that to a billion trillion and you're effectively not doing Jumpchain, you're doing a CYOA about being in Generic Xianxia land with a very brief prologue and epilogue in other worlds.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@JunkTop
Na see what I'm looking for isn't that. While I doubt we have a similar drawback I still wanna try. It's more so I can stay and grow old with people rather than just vanish one day.

0 CP Sticking Around - Oh? You want to stay longer? Fine. You may choose how long you remain in this world now, be it to the resolution of the local plot or the heat death of the universe. However, all scenario time limits still apply, and drawbacks last the full time unless resolved.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Skullbone
It's a drawback so you can drag it to other jumps.
Or just houserule that it's how it always works.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Snarelure
You can get trillions from Last God Kubera. One Kalpa is a universal lifespan, and given you can start right at the begging it's kinda stupid. I think there is something similar in Desolate Era and I know 40K Imperium has one like that.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Bidwell
Demonseed from Big O, grow it in your warehouse

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Bidwell
White Knight Chronicles has one in the supplement I think.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Snarelure
A min-maxer could say that it gives them tons of time to train
A min-maxer would say that they could have gotten stuff from a lot of other jumps in that time while also training Xianxia stuff.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@GoogleCat
I know, it's from the Generic HP Jump though. I don't really have intentions of going there. I suppose I could just houserule that as a basic thing in my chain though. That's probably work.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@likme
@Sharpcharm

Kero Blaster's a really short game, like 1-2 hours long.

user said what I was about to say about SUKIMA and SHIFT-JIS, and to add onto that... True Colors basically has a similar effect to SUKIMA. Just that it targets the source of the problem (emotional alteration) rather than the emotion (stress).

X, Y, Z has a similar counterpart in Classic Sonic's (boosted) Bonus Stage - and X, Y, Z is limited by the fact that it will destroy the world if you use it too much.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Need_TLC
The Eternal Corridor from Jade Cocoon is a Warehouse Attachment that generates a random biome, containing any non-unique and non-sapient creature from any jumps you've visited, which grow in power the further you go in its endless expanse.

Item World from Disgaea allows you to visit a world full of enemies for any item you can get your hands on, their power scaling in proportion to the quality of the item, though it's not clear how much you can use it. In some games, it has a limited number of stages, but in others you can go down as far as you can handle. You can also take loot from defeated enemies. Then there's Illusion Barriers from The Gamer and Random Encounters from Digimon World 3 that create "fake" enemies for you to fight.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@StrangeWizard
Nah, user Heart said to assume that given the ambiguity of Kubera's timeline to just assume that the current cycle of kalpa started relatively recently and if you start from the beginning it will only be the ~14 billion years you'd get if you started from the beginning of our universe's timeline. As for Desolate Era, that's only twenty thousand years. You're right about 40K Imperium, though, I forgot about that. But it's also a dumb idea to do there, since it's based in a world that's roughly similar to ours in terms of cosmology and so will probably suffer the heat death of the universe by the time you went long enough for that drawback to let you buy everything.

@Garbage Can Lid
Yes, that too. It's sub-optimal in many ways unless you do it as your very last jump.

FastChef
FastChef

@Snarelure
Can you even imagine being stuck in fucking Xianxia for that long? They're such shitty worlds, filled with shitty people.

You either end up doing escalating battles a hundred times over to take over the world (at which point it just becomes "whatever OC setting I feel like making"), or you spend a small eternity with complete assholes.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Garbage Can Lid
I mean, by default time is stopped for worlds you're not jumping at the moment. All it does is increase the amount of relative time you have, with which you can do whatever you want.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Snarelure
There is a 0 cp drawback in coiling dragon fot 5 quadrillion years

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Lord_Tryzalot
No there isn't, that drawback only goes up to fifty years. I have no idea what you're talking about, Coiling Dragon's plot doesn't even go for five quadrillion years. Have I just fallen for some really dumb bait?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@SniperWish
Thanks for the corrections, coulda swore there was a jump that let you stay for an entire Kalpa though. Like literally trillions of years. Also 40K Probably won't die from Heat Death. It's not a closed circuit as the warp doesn't have a time variant. So energy is constantly flowing back into the real universe, there is actually tech made to make use of this (DAoT humans, Necrons and I think Orks (probably) have this shit). The 40K verse can die of heat death but it isn't likely when you have things going around capable of adding in more energy.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@haveahappyday
Perks aside, it still feels like a very empty and lifeless Jump. There's no fluff to anything, no sense of tone, and barely anything about the world itself. It's barely a Jump and more like a shopping list.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Need_TLC
Platoon. Pull a Lauri Törni
Or Sabaton for that matter.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Gigastrength
@Lord_Tryzalot
Oops I meant desolate era. Too many xianxias on here.

FastChef
FastChef

@Fried_Sushi
Yeah but subjectively you have to spend more time in one world instead of moving on to others. From the jumper's perspective it is a lot of wasted time even if it is free CP from the perceptive of the user writing the chain.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@TreeEater
Heat death, cosmological expansion or contraction, Warp weirdness destabilizing reality...doesn't really matter the cause, I don't want to be in a universe based on ours for longer than 1E20 years.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@TurtleCat
No, that's wrong, too. Desolate Era only goes up to twenty thousand years.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@SniperWish
As for Desolate Era, that's only twenty thousand years
A Chaos Cycle is six quadrillion years.
you must navigate and survive in for the next Chaos Cycle.

girlDog
girlDog

@SniperWish
@TreeEater
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/56021111/#56021880

iluvmen
iluvmen

@TurtleCat
@Gigastrength
@Lord_Tryzalot
Outsider (Wandering Expert Only)All of these backwards hillbillies in the Three Realms have no idea what actual power looks like, and the idiots that have tried to conquer it are even worse, unable to beat a bunch of idiotic children even when they have such great advantages. Thus, your goal is to completely subjugate the entirety of the Three Realms under your will into one Giant Empire, and keep them subjugated until the Three Realms finally die a natural death (in around six Quadrillion years, or one Chaos Cycle). If you succeed, you’ll be able to, instead of cultivating normally, eat Cultivators and gain strength that way. In other Jumps, any ability you wish to train can simply be advanced by eating a person who has trained in it, with your gains mirroring the level of mastery your target had: eating a grandmaster would make you one as well, while eating a beginner would only get you the basics. Lord of the Demonheart (Requires The Demonheart)The Lord of the Demonheart, after the first Endwar, had to meld himself with the Heavenly Daos to escape the fury of Mother Nuwa........ it continues but no more txt room

Skullbone
Skullbone

@StrangeWizard
I suppose that's true. Although 40k isn't that bad, just head to the next galaxy over (not the one the Nids come from) I remember from some book that a group of human and AI went there just before the birth of Slaanesh. Could be fun to hang out with them.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@girlDog
Did you mean to post this one?

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/55563737/#55568249

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Skullbone
They went there with a 40K AI user, do you really want to meet the robot version of the Nids?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Soft_member
@iluvmen
Oh, right. Sorry, I forgot about the scenarios since they're all worthless. I mean, they force you to take on awful challenges and don't give particularly strong rewards, why would anyone want them? So I don't even think of them as a thing.

FastChef
FastChef

@FastChef
My solution for dealing with Generic Xianxia is lots of companions to whittle away time with. Basically turn it into a dynasty to rules the worlds have tons of fun with Waifus and train.

Aka basically turn it into a jump to bring in the whole gang to hang out and have fun. Let the assholes come and see the whole jumper extended family

Illusionz
Illusionz

@TurtleCat
Lets be real, it was probably the Eldar or the Warp that fucked over the AI rather than them just wanting to kill us all. And yea I would actually, a couple of my chains my jumper is a super AI or something similar.

They'd make a great backup plan for me if nothing else.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@iluvmen
Have fun attracting Daolord-level threats while being incapable of going beyond World God.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

has anyone made cthulhutech?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Gigastrength
Not yet.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@FastChef
Eh I used it to go to warlock in magus world and royally murder the fuck out of magi and become an overgod promoting good and justice along with teamwork.

Sadly I can never use my solar system sized winged serpent altform without the radiation melting everyone and uplifting the stones and buildings to sapiency while turning them into warp monstrocities.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@CouchChiller
radiation melting everyone and uplifting the stones and buildings to sapiency while turning them into warp monstrocities.

The fuck?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Spazyfool
Magic be crazy.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Skullbone

Well, that's because there's not much fluff in the game to begin with. It's not a very talkative game.

One of the characters (the head of Cat and Frog Corp) speaks in scribbles, one is mute (Kaeru), and of the other four - one speaks a few lines (the shopkeeper), one is completely unexplained from what I recall (the man who gives you a choice to start Zangyou and Omake mode) and the other two (Comomo and Sasuke, both workers for Cat and Frog Corp) help make up the jump as it is.

All of the locations are completely random, given no explanation, you are teleported to them. I can only assume they are missions for Kaeru, but is that canon? The bosses are either Negativus Legatia or local wildlife, I know that much. I mean, all this is explained in the jump.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@CouchChiller
Using generics to go to specific settings that just happen to not have jumps is so lazy. You want this world so much, fucking make a jump for it. Don't weasel your way into getting things from a world without a jump just because there's some vagueness you can use.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@viagrandad
You got 6 quad years, build a big damn machine.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@SniperWish
No, as that post’s response has user Heart saying:
Yeah, sure. It's probably better than the 14 billion, honestly, since Kubera is a Hindu mythology universe, not a real life one.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@MPmaster
That is the one good use for a generic plus I am already working on other jumps. Why dont you make it?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Bidwell
A big damn machine that can never reach Daolord level, because the Desolate Era setting is very disparaging of the concept of science and technology and says that it can never reach the level that cultivators are at. So unless you bring in tech from outside the setting that is that good, you're not even going to get to World God levels.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@MPmaster
I thought evreryone did that though.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Booteefool
Why not use the magic from the setting? Make it with those formations.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Sir_Gallonhead
Well then do as you wish. Good luck then. I've said my piece.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Stupidasole
Because I've got no interest in it. You do, though. And no, it's not a good use for generics, because by their nature a generic is never going to reflect the themes of a particular world well. If I made a jump for an actual existing franchise and had it be as vague and non-specific as a generic jump, I'd get laughed out of the thread.

@MPmaster
If they do, that doesn't make it any less lazy.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@cum2soon
Formations are limited by your skill in the Dao of Formations. If you're not Daolord level, you're not going to make a formation that can keep out Daolords.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I just realised something. If you have a Cultivation Method and have Gamer's Skills from The Gamer jump does that mean you can level up your cultivation method to cultivate faster?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@PackManBrainlure
Except generic xianxia does cover it pretty well. Xianxia have a lot in common. So you can be pissy about how you play your generics bit I use mine to visit things we dont have.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@PackManBrainlure
Literally stop having fun wrong.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

There any more Slice of Life jumps?

Oreimo
K-ON!
Slice of Life
Oreigaru
Three Star Gauntlet
Heathers
Nine to Five
YouTube
Career Model
Hollywood

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@PackManBrainlure
Just asking here what jumps have you made and who put you in charge of jumpchain?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@lostmypassword
Other than the draculaa bit at the end rosario vampire is a highschool drama

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@PackManBrainlure
If I made a jump for an actual existing franchise and had it be as vague and non-specific as a generic jump, I'd get laughed out of the thread.
Have you considered that maybe you'd get laughed out of the thread not for anything about setting thematics, but more because your "jumpmaking" abilities in other areas leave much to be desired?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@TalkBomber
We could say the same for Dies Irae then

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@TalkBomber
Mmm... I'm looking for ones set in more mundane settings. But thanks anyway.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@JunkTop
Oh, okay, I get it. You're saying that you don't read any xianxia with actually novel or interesting traits, so a completely stock and generic jump can satisfy your desire for a jump that represents these settings well. Sorry, I'm not familiar with this Magus World series, I've had it recommended to me but not gotten around to reading it yet. I didn't realize it was so cliche and boring, I should cross that off my reading list. But I'm sorry for accusing you of being lazy, user, that's apparently not a flaw you have.

@Deadlyinx
Oh, how I love the "only a creator of content gets to criticize content" argument. I don't need to be a chef to tell when a meal is bland and tasteless, user. As for who put me in charge of Jumpchain, I obviously can't command anyone to not be lazy. But I can call them out for being lazy. But it's okay, I was mistaken, they're not lazy. They're into what's apparently a really boring series, but so what, I can't tell them what to like and not like.

@Fuzzy_Logic
I'm sorry, who do you think I am?

farquit
farquit

@lostmypassword
I like jumping most settings like slice of life, grab an item shop and see how much you can do from your day job.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@SniperWish
One Kalpa
Eh. Just go with whichever you prefer. Honestly, it's kind of irrelevant in the context of the jump, the important part is that you're there at the start of the universe, and will be there until 10 years after Canon begins.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Methnerd
Was watching an LP, actually.
Pat is the worst, isn't he? His only redeeming feature is being a Stand User.

massdebater
massdebater

Checking one last time before I put it up on the drive, any issues with Kero Blaster?

idontknow
idontknow

@Nude_Bikergirl
No like the dracula stuff is only about a werk of so and all in one city.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@lostmypassword
@Bidwell
Yoro, haven't you made like 4 slice of life jumps? Zootopia, Katawa Shoujo, Diaries of a Spaceport Janitor, and Night in the Woods (mostly)?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Sir_Gallonhead
You're saying that you don't read any xianxia with actually novel or interesting traits, so a completely stock and generic jump can satisfy your desire for a jump that represents these settings we

xianxia
not recycling the same stuff over and over

Hang on while I try to stop laughing.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@w8t4u
Pat is a great man full of neverending wisdom, and shit.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Sir_Gallonhead
Calling someone else lazy when you dont contribute shit just makes you a shit person.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@idontknow
I mean, so is Dies Irae. I think a better argument for why they're different is that Rosario+Vampire's primary narrative focus isn't on the supernatural action. It's there, but just something that happens rather than the main point. Dies Irae is all about the Days of Wrath.

likme
likme

Can anyone more familiar with Okami tell me how closely it aligns with the mythology? Could it at least be said to take place in a world primarily based on it, or is it closer to its own OC setting?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@DeathDog
Not really? I'm not calling them lazy for not contributing to the community, so my own lack of contribution to the community is irrelevant. I'm calling them lazy for wanting something and not making it, instead using a generic to get something that is superficially the same but not really. It's like someone that wants pizza, but isn't going to bother making it, so they just slap some lunch meat on a piece of bread with some tomato sauce and say that's good enough for them. Meanwhile, I'm over here eating my Chinese takeout.

Evilember
Evilember

@Sir_Gallonhead
How do you think generics work if you don't think you should base them on anything?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@likme
It takes a few names and concepts from Shinto, but it's not really Shinto mythology. It's definitely an OC setting. Are you the guy who was making a list of mythology-inspired jumps?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Does anyone have a list of low fantasy jumps?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Carnalpleasure
So yeah, just a shit person. Whining and complaining because other people dont mind a boxed pizza instead of 5 star pizza. You take what you have.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@likme
It's mostly its own OC thing while taking the themes and ideas of Shinto mythology. Moon aliens are involved. All the gods are animals most of the time.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@eGremlin
Yes. And thanks.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@TurtleCat
No, you don't get it. I love him for being the worst.

Going to YouTube to companion them? And their girlfriends/wife? AND ELMO? Not even once.

farquit
farquit

@lostmypassword
Like, /just/ modern Earth settings? Because there's a lot out there that's slice of life and not modern Earth. Cowboy Bebop is slice of life in space, then there's CATastrophy that's slice of life with catgirls and beach parties, or Nintendogs which is slice of life but you're a dog. VA-11 HALL-A is slice of life in a cyberpunk future. And then there's-

@Playboyize
I mean, I dunno that I consider Diaries of a Spaceport Janitor slice of life. I mean, sure, it's a shitty slice of life in an alien spaceport if you stretch it. But Zootopia, Katawa Shoujo, and Night in the Wood still fit pretty much.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Soft_member
Fuck yeah user, fuck yeah. Pat and Peach are a damn good team by the way. They never stop fucking with each other.

Evilember
Evilember

@Evilember
I take the tropes and themes common to the genre it's meant to be emulating, and make an OC setting. Inspired by existing works in that genre, but not actually going directly to one of those works. There are a few exceptions that explicitly state you can go to a specific world, some jumps do that, but for most I assume that if I'm taking a jump of "Generic Isekai Fantasy" I should go to a generic isekai fantasy, not a specific one.

@Stark_Naked
Nope, not even boxed pizza. Boxed pizza, in this analogy, would be using a jump someone else had made for this setting, instead of one they made. You know, since boxed pizza is pizza that someone else had made. This isn't a hard metaphor, user, did you never take your SATs?

TechHater
TechHater

@Evilember
Boxed pizza from 711 then.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Evilember
and make an OC setting
Wonderful you make a setting you can wank any way you want. Congrats.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@TechHater
What do you have against 7-11 pizza? It's fine. Why are you so cruel?

happy_sad
happy_sad

people replying to a shitposter yet again
I really hope you guys don't do this.

takes2long
takes2long

@lostmypassword
Aria
Musician
9 to 5
Sitcom
Miss Kobayashi's Maid Dragon

askme
askme

@Nude_Bikergirl
Dies Irae

I just started playing the VN.
Btw, how attractive would I be if I take "Mephistopheles" , "Natural Lady Killer", "Evil Is What It Is" and "Please Mary me"?

Methshot
Methshot

@Raving_Cute
Well, sure, you have to be restrained in your use of OC settings. I mean, someone that was an awful power-wanker could really abuse this, but who would do that? I don't even want to think about the sort of person who would hear about the idea of making OC settings for their generics and immediately jump to wanking that into gaining everything they might ever want. So despicable. Glad I'm not like that.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@askme
"Please Mary me"

I'm retarded, the perk is "Will you marie me?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Raving_Cute
@TechHater
Stop biting retards.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@farquit
Relatively mundane earth settings, maybe some way into the future, but not too far. Stuff that at least resembles modern earth on a surface level, so no space travel, no (post-)apocalypse, definitely no magic or high-school girls that are secretly god. Zootopia is about as far as I'm willing to go.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Poker_Star
I hadn't considered it before, but I don't see why not. I'll add it this minor update to the drive

WebTool
WebTool

@Harmless_Venom
Its basically just microwave bread and cheese.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@askme
Well, Will You Marie Me already makes you pretty enough to passively mind-slave everyone who sees you. So I think you're probably going to get some law of diminishing returns going on with more appearance perks added on top of that. I mean, you'll be even prettier, but there's probably not going to be a meaningful change in response.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@happy_sad
it's "I sure hope you guys don't do this."

And to answer your unspoken question, yes. We do. Daily. And it's never getting better.

askme
askme

Question for KOTOR. In the Avatar jump you can learn bending like pressure bending by just getting a teacher rather than paying cp right? (I assume that is the case but a word of confirmation would be nice)

likme
likme

@lostmypassword
Idolmaster
AKB49
potentially Sports

depending on if you count "drama" as Slice of Life
Generic Investigation
Generic Detective
Sherlock Holmes

Techpill
Techpill

No Canon Companion option in Prey
But I want a Morgan . . .

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Techpill
Just put a Typhon in a VR simulation of her life. It worked fine for Alex.

TechHater
TechHater

Does anyone here know what this perk from Slice of Life actually does?
You have an odd ability to always find interesting in every sense of the world. It will end in a day, but the emotions and situations will always be real and interesting.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@TechHater
It's a mix of plot armor and internalised whimsy that makes it so you'll never become like a jaded japanese salaryman.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Need_TLC
Hmm. So I guess it was meant to say "to always find life interesting". But then what does the "it will end in a day" part mean?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@TechHater
... I'd question your reading comprehension, because that couldn't be more obvious. You have an odd ability to find interesting shit in the world from day-to-day that, while the event will usually only last a single day (like regular SoL episodes last mostly a day) the experiences will stick with you.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Sharpcharm
I really owe those assholes too much.

Heh. Reminds me of a writeup I did some time ago inb4 oh god it's been a YEAR:

Persona
"FUCK, FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT, FUCK!"
"Pat, Mara is not THAT bad of a persona..."
"FUCK YOU"

Senran Kagura
"GODDAMNIT LIAM!"

Naruto
"Ka-ge-Bun-shin-nofffffffuck this shit."
"Oh no, Woolie. NOW you are back in. Here's your headband."

Dark Souls
"Woolie NO"
"Woolie YES"
Cue the Predator theme

Dark Souls 3
"Pat NO"
"Pat YES"
Cue the Irish drinking song

Bloodborne
"I FUCKING LOVE THIS"
"Pat, put down the damn saw. PLEASE."

SAO
"Hey, Kirito. Your sisters tits are huuuuuuuge."

Witcher
"...Where is Pat. No, seriously. It's been ten years. Is he still doing sidequests?"

Metal Gear Solid
"Greatest gunjumper in the world, guess whooooo?~"
"GODDAMNIT LIAM"

Marvel
"Matt, take the skull paraphernalia off. You are scaring people."
"I KNOW, right? It's awesome!"
"..."

FF14
"...Shit. I TOLD you guys to keep your eyes on Pat at ALL TIMES."
"CAW CAW"
"...Fuck."

FF10
"Woolie is NOT allowed outside."
"...Neither is Matt."

Dead or Alive Xtreme
Picture related
"Alright, guys, I have some good news and some bad news- Wait. Where is Liam."
...
"Oh no."

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Nojokur
Ah, yeah, that actually sounds logical. Though to be fair, it was worded pretty fucking weirdly.

TreeEater
TreeEater

How dos my Overlord build look?

Overlord

Location: E-Ramirel
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Race: Human (0)
Origin: Drop-In (0), Local (0)

Perks:
[Refusing Tolerance For Evil]

Innate Talents:
{
Bestiary Knowledge (0)
Favored By Fortune (0)
Magical Powerhouse (100)
}

Realm of Heroes (0)
Level One Hundred (600)

Sorcerous Swordsman (0)
Magic Warrior (100)
Arcane Caster (100)
Divine Caster (100)
Dark Wisdom (400)

Items:
The Ring of Elru (200)

Companions:
A Local Hero (0)

Drawbacks:
Foreigner (+100)
Bandit Woes (+100)
Rival Player (+300)

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Nude_Bikergirl
Why do we need to pay CP for the undead traits in Dark Souls when they go away post jump?

WebTool
WebTool

@TreeEater
0/10 not a carbon copy of my build, it's fucking trash.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@askme
You can learn the weird specific forms of bending, yeah. It's just difficult to learn, and you wouldn't have the talent in them you'd get if you bought access.

Well... as long as you did buy the relevant base bending. You're obviously never going to learn pressurebending if you're not an airbender in the first place.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@TreeEater
not enough warrior capacities
unless you already have those at a high level from prior jumps?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@TreeEater
Someone's beating up Ainz and his objectively evil crew, I see.

Ainz is cool but it's something that has to be done.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@SniperGod
Awesome, thanks.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@TreeEater
Looks pretty good to me. Sorcerous Swordsman is a good class, you'll do well with it. Personally, I would have picked up Unified Focus if you were going with that, too, but it's not necessary and has some sidebacks that you might not have the perks from other jumps to counteract. So yeah, looks good.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@BinaryMan

Damn, there it goes my charisma build. Guess I will grab fourth tier Briah.

@Need_TLC

I giggled.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Supergrass
Not enough gun in the entire jump for that

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@TreeEater
Why'd you go Drop-in if most of your points are spent in the Mage section? Also, taking both Magic Warrior and Sorcerous Swordsman isn't redundant, per se, but it's just two ways of integrating magic with physical fighting. It might be worth it to look at the other warrior classes, especially considering you're taking Level 100.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Need_TLC
That is strong.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Need_TLC
You actually fuckin took them on a chain. You fuckin mad man. I love that they're belligerent enough to just ditch you sometimes.

@Burnblaze
Makes it really, really, really hard to fuckin lose the Jump unless you fuck up, allowing you to do ballsier stuff.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@LuckyDusty
Makes it really, really, really hard to fuckin lose the Jump unless you fuck up
How many Souls games have you played where you never once lost a bloodstain?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Skullbone
They never experienced the grimdark
They're a galaxy-spanning technology utopia
Decide to check in on the Milky Way again
"Hey guys, how's it OH MY GOD WHO SHIT ON THE CEILING?!"

Booteefool
Booteefool

@lostmypassword
How many Souls games have you played where you're desperately try harding for every waking moment of your existence because dying has actual consequences?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Bidwell
@Flameblow
@LuckyDusty
Thank you, thank you!~

Wait, you don't let your companions to go off on their own sometimes?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@hairygrape
"There's a parallel dimension full of WHAT?"

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Supergrass
Too early in my chain for that, sadly.

@MPmaster
I just don't really like the perks that link your abilities together like that.

@Deadlyinx
Well Drop-Ins have more well rounded stats (jump says basically 9 magic/9 physical where Mage would be 10 magic/6 physical. And this was what @whereismyname
recommended.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@King_Martha
Oh I do, I'm just happy that these guys do that in actually dangerous worlds just because they can.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@hairygrape
@Soft_member
You know, a jumper with an afterlife could completely save that entire fucked up setting. Just make it out that the afterlife is run by the emperor to build an army to storm the warp or some shit.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@LuckyDusty
None, but how is that relevant?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Firespawn
I... Am pretty heavy on companion-centric perks.

Arthur's Pentakai Bench + that one Civ perk = companions never die!

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Booteefool
I did a no death run of Dark Souls 2 once.

Felt like killing myself IRL after I did it, but I got the motherfucking ring.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@TurtleCat
Not immediately, you'd need a pretty damn big afterlife and it better have some pretty buff defences against Chaos Gods poaching from you too-and the same goes for whatever force it uses to pull souls it's way. Because that's how they do.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Poker_Star
Use the one from Kubera, I dont believe it has any limit on size?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@LuckyDusty
That doesn't mean you should be charging CP for something we lose at the end of the jump and is a part of most of the origins.

You aren't offering it for CP, you are taking away a thing that most of the origins have by default and then charging a price to keep a lesser version of it for just this one jump.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@LuckyDusty
I agree with the other user desu, buying that shit is literally pointless unless it's your first jump.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Need_TLC
Because that's sorta the situation Jumpers who aren't powerful enough to casually walk around would be in? Unless they were just the type of crazy to stroll recklessly through Dark Souls adventures.

@Bidwell
What in the fuck? That's actually possible?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Bidwell
Fun fact: In the original Japanese translation the Old King's Soul you get on NG+ is apparently called the Old KINGS' Soul i.e. that it comes from multiple kings. Also, the younger version of Shanalotte you talk to right before the final boss mentions there is a Great Soul in the Kiln which is what Nashandra was after.

You still get the Sunlight Spear miracle from it of course, but one theory I hashed out with some anons on /vg/ is that because you enter Drangleic through a portal into the Abyss, the major kings of the setting (Vendrick, and the ones the DLC focuses on) are reincarnations/amnesiac versions of the 4 Kings of Anor Londo, and the OIK held onto the biggest fragment of Gwyn's soul which he distributed among them.

Which would also explain why Vendrick needs their crown-energy to break the Darksign, since he'd be using their combined residual Gwyn power to undo his own work.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@TurtleCat
Gets Tier 4 Briah
Mephistopheles+Golden Ending(Dies Irae)
Always an Ending (Exalted)
Unites all of Man/Xenokind under a single banner and have them join your sorta-Gladsheimr Briah as you buff them all with your soul power
Crusades into the warp to wipe out Chaos

Good idea?

Methshot
Methshot

@LuckyDusty
Given the nature of dark souls shouldn't undead immortality be free in the jump? Maybe with an expensive option to keep a lesser version of it but definitely not pay a charge in CP to get a lesser version that only works during this one jump.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@TurtleCat
This reminds me that replacing the Emperor outright is actually perfectly viable for a Jumper who can make their presence in the warp as strong as the Big E, something quite doable with the Upgrade combo discussed before. Use Upgrade to strengthen your soul and what have you.

After so much of this shit the Emperor's relief would be palpable.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@PurpleCharger
What in the fuck? That's actually possible?
Oh. Buddy. I'm a rank pleb compared to some peoples' masochism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCDH-LYzmbc&feature=youtu.be

@New_Cliche
Huh. I've never heard that theory before. But do we have any explicit example of that kind of reincarnation outside of Lord Souls? Usually souls just kind of hang around and slowly dissipate when a person is killed.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@w8t4u
It was originally going to be left out since the new version of the Jump includes inhuman origins and I didn't want to unbalance things by giving all the human origins a built in advantage. I wanted it there to let people who relied on that advantage in their original version of the Jump to have it again to not disrupt chains much more than a new Jump for the same setting already would.

Why on earth would I consider the concept of giving people points for taking the ability to respawn? Death is the big chain end thing, lots of Jumps void the ability to easily deal with death in one form or another. Even in the original Jump there was a caveat for the respawning instead of just allowing you to be deathless like how it actually works in Dark Souls.

@VisualMaster
Jumps are supposed to be designed with them being your first Jump in mind, they aren't supposed to be balanced around Jumpers who have been to lots of Jumps.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@PurpleCharger
Bee could you add in Holy Moonlight Sword for Bloodborne? Its only weapon really missing.

@Methshot
It already is. Just if you die without retrieving your souls back then you die for reals.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@VisualMaster
Yeah bit even with that in mind why not just make it like the old DS jump where if you miss your bloodstain and die you're done? Two tries, in theme with the universe and not really overpowered.

There' just no purpose to actually making the jumper pay for it since if it's their first jump they basically HAVE to spend the CP for the respawning to survive and that's really not fair.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@PackManBrainlure
In that Horus Heresy jump there is a scenario to be able to replace Emps actually.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@VisualMaster
I didn't want to unbalance things by giving all the human origins a built in advantage.
Then don't the God, Demon, and Drake origins have a huge advantage in the jump due to being a lot more powerful?

Why on earth would I consider the concept of giving people points for taking the ability to respawn?
I did not suggest that. I said that since the entire point of the souls series is to die a lot we should get the ability to respawn in the jump.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Fuzzy_Logic
I love it honestly, but I hate you since I just spent a while making my own Briah. I hate Reinhard' Briah, every time it is mentioned makes me remember how great it is.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@iluvmen
implying anyone makes their Jumps with the idea of it being "the first jump" anymore.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@VisualMaster
Why on earth would I consider the concept of giving people points for taking the ability to respawn? Death is the big chain end thing, lots of Jumps void the ability to easily deal with death in one form or another. Even in the original Jump there was a caveat for the respawning instead of just allowing you to be deathless like how it actually works in Dark Souls.
Another guy, but it's pretty stupid desu. I really don't see a reason why you should lock away the advantages of the undead. Like, there are so many ways in Jumpchain to pretty much become unkillable, it won't unbalance anything for you to be able to respawn in-jump. Besides that, dying often enough makes you mindless/catonic anyway, so if you really need it, that could be a loss condition.
I went all out on the God options anyway and ignored the undead stuff because I really don't like their perks, but I hate it when jumpmakers feel the need to change how canon works.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Flameblow
even considering that jump

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Boy_vs_Girl
Just telling you as I saw it when I was reading through it. Thought you might find it interesting.

massdebater
massdebater

@New_Cliche
It already is.
No it isn't, it costs 100 CP.

Just if you die without retrieving your souls back then you die for reals.
That goes against the entire point of the setting and completely ruins the point of being an undead.

Inmate
Inmate

@Flameblow
You mean SJ's "WHY IS THIS UNIVERSE SO SEXIST" jump?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Inmate
Update, sexist pigs comment removed
Iz gone.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@New_Cliche
Just if you die without retrieving your souls back then you die for reals.
Those souls aren't really "yours", though, so that doesn't really make any sense.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Fuzzy_Logic
Won't you be burning through their souls though?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@TalkBomber
At this point my gripe is with the maker themselves so that doesn't change anything.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Skullbone
I'm not sure if "reincarnation" is the word I'd go with, considering humans seem to be able to get themselves back on their feet unless they're thoroughly eaten or burned. I was thinking more that since you last saw them screaming as they fell into the Abyss, like Patches turning into Lapp their memory just withered until they landed near a bonfire in Drangleic and got up again sans memories.

I've always thought it was a matter of willpower. Alva spends DS3 going to the literal ends of the earth looking for his witchfu, and you find his dead body in Karla's prison. Karla herself has her ashes say she explicitly never quite dies, although she's not exactly a regular human. Arguably there's also the Ivory King, Raime and Friede; they might all be unusual cases benefiting from outside forces, but the kings DID die in the Abyss itself and we know from DS3 that Humanity as a force has the potential to usurp the First Flame when the Flame dwindles.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Flameblow
Horus Heresy jump
Thats a thing?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Bidwell
Why are so many people recommending SB only jumps these days? Is it a shitpost campaign? I find it hard to believe you could be so ignorant as to realise why most people here would find jumping those repulsive.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Dreamworx
It's completely imbalanced and warty and made by a woman who makes such outlandish claims about her backstory I have to question if she's even remotely SANE, but yes. It's a 'thing.'

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@PurpleCharger
Well, don't forget that Rhein's tier 4 on top of the basically afterlife soul enslavement, he can also utilize all their powers, has all their knowledge, and he also creates a castle that can travel the multiverse and turn into a skeleton death machine.

I'd argue just fitting in the Afterlife part is fine enough to incorporate into your already made Briah. Though depending on how strong yours already is, you might need to drop the whole part of you being able to use all their abilities.

Techpill
Techpill

@Soft_member
Thats not true.

They also suggest QQ only jumps.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Raving_Cute
boost over the course of 100 jumps
accidentally use that
entire omniverse explodes

Nojokur
Nojokur

@GoogleCat
Mmmkay. I actually think SJ-Chan has either stopped working on it or is taking a backseat as I did not see anything like that recently, then again I may have missed it.

@Dreamworx
Yeah it is an SB jump.

If you are bored enough to read it like me here is the link:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l2jyJcCBbxG1i3USDyZp7E0hpksdvH3Es7jTOXSe1jg/edit

@Soft_member
I never recommended it for one, and two some people like to have as many options to choose from when jumping as possible.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Soft_member
Meh, the Generic Harry Potter Fanfiction jump is alright, and other SB-only jump are quite nice as well. Don't let bias cloud your judgment.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@VisualMaster
@Raving_Cute
Gotta say it seems like a lost gem, nobody ever talks about it. That shit is powerful as hell.

girlDog
girlDog

@Soft_member
Because your mom touches herself at night.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@lostmypassword
I hate you, even this image is not enough to express it.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Deadlyinx
Isnt that quote from I have no mouth and I must scream?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Crazy_Nice
Actually I remember when it was for a while, it's just that Maoyuu seems relatively obscure as an IP even by /jc/'s considerable range (seriously, never thought I'd find a community that knows as much about Dies Irae, Bleach and Naruto as the Silmarillion and Exalted). Also at the time Crimson Saint and the library was a much bigger deal, so people were yapping about those a hella lot more.

On top of everything, I distinctly remember there was another super magic attack perk before it-Dual Art in Castlevania, maybe? Yes I know it does something different, just saying that at that point people seemed to have found their own FUCK YOU, FUCK YOUR GENERAL VICINITY AND FUCK THE PLANET'S INTEGRITY TOO spells.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Deadlyinx
System Shock HATE.jpg
is the opening statement made by AM from I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream
The Shodan before Shodan existed

That is HATE inducing user.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Does everyone here honestly believe that giving Undead the respawning rules that gives them the ability to keep coming back as long as they collect their blood pool would not give them inherent advantages over the inhuman origins?

@Methshot
No questions immortality for a Jump is just ridiculous, that voids the big loss condition of Jumpchain.

@Skullbone
No damage run
I don't want to watch that, I will forever feel feeble and shitty by comparison if I do.

@New_Cliche
Mmm, I think I might do that, yeah. I've been thinking of reformatting it for a while anyways since it's currently my ugliest Jump. Originally I was planning for stuff like that and the Kos Parasite to be scenario rewards in Hunter's Nightmare scenarios, but I lost the motivation to write those during the big update forever ago and I don't have it now. Just reformatting and adding some items would be cool though.

@iluvmen
It's not really just two tries though. It's two tries against basically everything. Give me a second to see what the opinion is on my top question.

@BlogWobbles
Gods have a better body and more experience, yet aren't far enough away that one of the hollow knights in these lands couldn't take them. The Drakes and Demons can't go into most buildings or use basically any of the various armors, weapons and equipment though due to their size and bodies. They're all brute force for the most part.

Sorry for misreading then.

@Stark_Naked
I'm not trying to change how canon works, that's how Jumpchain has worked for the longest time. Options that would normally make death a minor obstacle can't do that because that's the caveat of Jumpchain, Death = Loss.

Techpill
Techpill

So ok guys I have an afterlife from kubera, and I was a supreme god in gohs but had very little to do with my afterlife. So that ships sailed. What are some ways to boost it so that souls from my people HAVE to go to my afterlife and cannot be stolen?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Dreamworx
@Boy_vs_Girl
I know, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@PurpleCharger
Honestly that whole thing needs a complete overhaul. The fluff text is so terrible.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@w8t4u
No questions immortality for a Jump is just ridiculous, that voids the big loss condition of Jumpchain.
...Your girlfriend doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

I know I sound like Timmy right now, but I'm not.

farquit
farquit

@w8t4u
Does everyone here honestly believe that giving Undead the respawning rules that gives them the ability to keep coming back as long as they collect their blood pool would not give them inherent advantages over the inhuman origins?
Not really, no. Undead are kinda shitty, and imo their perks aren't all that special. Like, I took God as my origin because the perks are great, Undead getting some shitty immortality won't change my decision.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@TalkBomber
Yeah it's... they seem to have put a ton of time and effort into it.

It's just that they did it in a way that makes me hate it.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@w8t4u
If it's just an in-jump thing then it's not really a problem. Given how feeble weak ass humans are I'd say the re-spawning is the LEAST you can give the poor bastards for just the jump. I'm pretty sure no body thinks that it should go outside of the jump, because that IS pretty stupid.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@w8t4u
Wasn't part of the conversation, but if you're asking everyone in general I personally am okay with you leaving that thing out.

@farquit
By Dark Souls 3 undead have the potential to become such a dominant force in the world, their buffest guy can snuff out the First Flame and replace it with abyssal fire. Gods, dragons and shambling horrors alike roam the lands-and a powerful undead can potentially carve through all of them. Think about that.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@w8t4u
Does everyone here honestly believe that giving Undead the respawning rules that gives them the ability to keep coming back as long as they collect their blood pool would not give them inherent advantages over the inhuman origins?

Not really, undead line is comparatively shitty imo. Respawning is their deal. In setting it makes sense for them to respawn out of setting maybe limit it to a 1 up.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@lostmypassword
@TalkBomber
@PurpleCharger

Omnissiah [2000]
Emperor? What Emperor. You’re the Emperor now, punk. That’s right. The Emperor of
Mankind has a name, and it’s yours. You will remember this fact as soon as you come face to
face with Horus. To qualify for this, you must already be capable of psychic feats that would
place you as an Alpha Plus Psyker, either by buying it here or from other jumps. So? What do
you get for your 2000 CP? Well, that other idiot isn’t around and you get all of his toys. All of
them. Command of the Empire of Mankind. The undying loyalty of billions. Ownership of
Terra and Luna, partial ownership of Mars… twenty-one sons who might or might not betray
you.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@w8t4u
Even sane, strong-willed undead like the PCs are scrubs compared to even the decayed and withered beings you face in the game. Their ONLY advantage is how hard they are to kill.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@w8t4u
No questions immortality for a Jump is just ridiculous, that voids the big loss condition of Jumpchain.
Not doing it defeats the entire point of the Dark Souls setting; if we can't try a thing, die, try again, die again, try again, win, feel that glorious satisfaction, and repeat with another thing what is the point of going to Dark Souls?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Fuzzy_Logic
Needing to die
Pleb

Bidwell
Bidwell

@JunkTop
In fairness, that's about like taking the Supreme God Reincarnation in God of Highschool for 2000 CP.

massdebater
massdebater

@w8t4u
No questions immortality for a Jump is just ridiculous, that voids the big loss condition of Jumpchain.

Gods in Kubera get that free in the setting. As do most jumps set in mmos.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@RumChicken
By Dark Souls 3 undead have the potential to become such a dominant force in the world, their buffest guy can snuff out the First Flame and replace it with abyssal fire. Gods, dragons and shambling horrors alike roam the lands-and a powerful undead can potentially carve through all of them. Think about that.
Haven't played DS3 yet, but I think that's because everyone is just that much weaker than when they were at their peak. Like, in DS1 you beat a Gwyn that lost probably 99% of his power.
Anyway though, that's something any Jumper can do, not something innetely unique to Undead. Also, the protagonist is an undead, of course he'll be the strongest guy around. Has nothing to do with the race as a whole.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Bidwell
Completely useless in context of jc?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@w8t4u
one of the hollow knights in these lands couldn't take them.
The only reason the undead stand a chance is by trial and error via immortality. Even then most go crazy and just wander around like zombies before they actually succeed.

Just give them their immortality, it is just for one jump and doesn't have to be consequence free. Let jumpers deal with the hollowing that comes with not managing their deaths properly.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Techpill
You could take the Dealin’ With The Devil perk from Cuphead?

Once someone’s soul is yours, it will fly into your possession upon their death as opposed to some other afterlife.
Any souls you own by contract cannot be retrieved or taken for as long as you hold on to those contracts,

They'd just need to agree to whatever contract you make. But on the bright side, you wouldn't have to make a contract for each and every person, since parents or guardians can agree on behalf of their charges too. So you could have your people sign their entire bloodline to your afterlife in one go.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Illusionz
opposing the grimdark
not embracing the cold void

farquit
farquit

@Fuzzy_Logic
Crusades into the warp to wipe out Chaos
Now that I think about it this would be terrible for crusades, especially for the elf haters. Can you imagine having the very beings that you hate among your immortal army?

cum2soon
cum2soon

So who the hell in Dies Irae fights with a pendant? How?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

/jc/, what's a good jump to get a precog counter ability? And if I get that and jump German Hollow Quest for spiritual power/training first, should I be able to survive taking the "Nah way, Yhawach" drawback in the Bleach jump?

I haven't read German Hollow Quest or the later parts of Bleach so I have no idea how the power levels compare.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@PurpleCharger
sane, strong-willed undead

I'm not sure if the PCs are good examples considering most of them start off in a sorry state, and while you do build up a ton of power quickly it's still very early in your career.

Now, if you look at VENDRICK. As a withered, shambling vegetable he's a brick shithouse unless you bring the life essences of the giants he killed as debuffs against him. Use the Ashen Mist Heart to go into his memories, and you find the man isn't even bothered by you throwing everything you have at his face. Just calls you a dumb-dumb and keeps sitting there.

@PackManBrainlure
that's because everyone is just that much weaker than when they were at their peak

That's...mostly true, not quite but mostly and the things that are becoming more powerful are either not-quite-dragons or disgusting abominations born from clashing primal elements.

that's something any Jumper can do

Well i wasn't thinking about interjump balance, I was looking at how the backgrounds compare to each other. The undead don't stay down, that's their shtick compared to stuff like Lords or witches barring exceptional circumstances.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@PackManBrainlure
Also, it's important to note that because the cycle of Fire and Dark at least, the natural one not the artificial one perpetuated by Gwyn's propagands defines the whole world, almost everything becoming weaker is synonymous with the power of Humanity becoming stronger. Just as the Light Soul propagates and implicitly is buffed by sunlight, so too does the Dark Soul spread dark and gain in strength as the light fades from the world.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Alright, I try to be reasonable, so if pretty much everybody but one so far is telling me things are fine, I'm inclined to believe them. I'll include the current respawn advantage as a passive freebie for human/undead origins.

@farquit
You think the Undead Pilgrim, Chosen Undead, Warriors of Sunlight, Way of White, Chaos Servant and all the other human based origins are bland? Do you have complaints about specific origins or perks?

@Fuzzy_Logic
@massdebater
I don't know what to tell you guys, I'm not removing the ability to lose in Dark Souls. I'm willing to bend on a lot of things, but I'm firm on that.

askme
askme

@Firespawn
Pretty sure Vendrick is a bad example of a human. He and Aldrich explicitly performed a ton of experimentation on the souls, he stole something from the giants, and he explicitly used the power of all four Lord Souls in some form or fashion.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@farquit
That very reason is why I included Mephistopheles and Golden Ending. The former grants crazy charisma needed to convince them that my side is the best side, of course this can be further aided by other social-fu perks. The latter helps make it so the Eldar, the Orkz, Humanity and the Tau can put up with each other and make a decision to fight against the common enemy.

elf haters
I mean, there is always using elves for more lewd purposes

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@ZeroReborn
I was speaking more of the anons who go DUES VULT about elves.

Yeah that is a good combo however for that plan of yours. Might steal it for myself desu.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@happy_sad
On a Dark Souls related note I would like to point out that most of the 300 CP build perks in DS3 do barely anything for their cost. Most just give you a stat boost you could easily replace by collecting souls, a few give you a very basic level of skill that could easily be reached in setting, and one gives you a very minor ability. They are pointless to take unless you really want the synergy effect from one of the 400 CP perks but even then they aren't worth it and force you to restrict your build.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@ZeroReborn
lewd purposes

The only use for elves.

idontknow
idontknow

What's a good way to wank yourself from becoming too powerful too soon?

I want to buy Skyfather for flavor, but don't want my jumper to be able to just wipe away conflict with a wave.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@happy_sad
I don't know what to tell you guys, I'm not removing the ability to lose in Dark Souls. I'm willing to bend on a lot of things, but I'm firm on that.
You wouldn't be removing the ability to lose, you would just not be adding the ability to lose in a way that completely breaks from the theme of the setting.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@cum2soon
Excuse you?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@happy_sad
very basic level of skill with a form of magic

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@cum2soon
mushoku tensei has a slave buy
universe has hot elves

Life is good.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@askme
You mean Aldia right? Well, you'd be technically correct in any case what with the whole Deep religion amounting to tossing a shitton of stagnating Humanity into Nito's domain until a deadier Abyss starts to pool up.

But I get the impression Vendrick relies on personal strength, not major modification because Aldia seems to be shunned exactly because he tried to crack the secrets of true immortality from giants and dragons. Vendrick certainly found a lot of uses for souls, but when the Ashen Mist Heart and other giant bits are found far from him and his hollowed form doesn't even host his actual soul I don't think he did that much to himself.

The Scholar of the First Sin description for his soul also says he was "a lacking vessel for the true throne" implying he never got round to hopping up on all the Lord Souls like the Chosen Undead.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@happy_sad
You are not doing anything except adding limitations for no damn reason

Bidwell
Bidwell

@BinaryMan

Put a leash on your fuckboi.

@Stark_Naked

Mah nigga.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@happy_sad
Using OOC powers to become invincible in context of the setting is fine
Having the in context ability to not stay dead isn't even when it's mandatory to be true to the setting.
Why?

FastChef
FastChef

@Bidwell
Now I want a jump that lets you buy slave followers.

That way I can tell them they dont count against the limit because they arent people.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Bidwell
If you think I'm your nigga now, wait until you hear I took on both the human and dragon gods for the 1200CP necessary to get them without interrupting my perk buys

Elf girls are justice.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Crazy_Nice
Deus Vult
Ahh, my mistake. But yeah fuck chaos, make Fuklaw proud.

@cum2soon
Perhaps one could amass the perfect Naked Apron Brigade with Elves as ones warriors. Surely nothing could beat a little bit of column A and little bit of column B?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@FastChef
Kakegurui's got you covered. Though they're called "pets" there.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@viagrandad
@Emberfire
indefinite immortality
same thing is reduced to a 1up in Kubera

Pretty big reason t b h.

Also,

Using OOC powers to become invincible in context of the setting is fine

Why the fuck is anything wrong about this? This is interjump balance. And goddamn you for making me sound like a triggered Tumblr user trying to bring that up succinctly

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Bidwell
putting a leash on the Regent Lord of Silvermoon

Last time I checked, my name wasn't Sylvanas, so I won't be doing that.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Sir_Gallonhead
In kubera as a god you get infinite respawns till the jump ends.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Alright, there's the minor update.

@happy_sad
You get a discount on two of your choice. It's essentially 150CP for the effects detailed as well as enhancing the various 400CP perks for each origin. That's more than worth it given as I previously mentioned I'm designing Jumps with new Jumpers in mind, not older ones.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@MPmaster
It would make a lot of sense if Sylvannas was originally an user who got whisked away by an isekai CYOA that let him be the little elf

@Methnerd
Oh yeah, hard to keep track of all the updates these days.

whereismyname
whereismyname

How hard to control are Infamous Conduit powers?
Could you eventually go about your day as a normal person, or is buying Toggle really the best option?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@CodeBuns

BASED. But I must ask how did you dealed with them? Orsted is pretty hardcore, especially without his curses, and killing hitogami could end humans.

@FastChef
@Illusionz

So much good taste.

@MPmaster

Dirty knives-ears, where's your master?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Flameblow
Thanks homie.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Flameblow
while losing your soul at the location of your death.
If you recollect your soul, there is no problem or issue, you may die and rise without losing again and again and again. If you do not find and collect your soul however, the next death really will be your last.
Almost, now just get rid of this last part. Seeing as how it is not at all how that works.

askme
askme

@Flameblow
Nu, about Soul Collector does it make it so the souls you collect were always there in your enemies'/victims' bodies dangling around, or at the moment of death does a soul just kind of...pop into your hands?

Also, what determines what does or does not have a soul? Do normally soulless creatures like Dementors gain souls too? Or what about settings where the land has an animistic kind of life force and consciousness, do they gain souls that can be harvested?

likme
likme

@idontknow
Make it so that your jumper needs to grow in power instead of starting out strong. Or you can pick up that shard capstone in Worm that lets you put artificer limitations on yourself so you can learn to improve past those limits.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@JunkTop
Weird to see an SB jump with a 2000CP perk that's too weak to be worth taking. Twice your starting budget, requires OOC perks to even take it, and all it does is give you an empire that doesn't even seem to follow you to new jumps.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Illusionz
They're tough but they're not "Jumper who is basically on par with the God-Emperor of Mankind" tough.

I also have that one perk that prevents bad shit from happening after you kill the "god of thing", can't recall exactly where it's from.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Flameblow
If you recollect your soul, there is no problem or issue, you may die and rise without losing again and again and again. If you do not find and collect your soul however, the next death really will be your last.
That is not how that works, at all in any way.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Illusionz
Dirty knives-ears, where's your master?
Pls don't talk about elves and half-elves like that.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Booteefool
Kakegurui's
Must go download that now then. Thank you so much.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@happy_sad
You think the Undead Pilgrim, Chosen Undead, Warriors of Sunlight, Way of White, Chaos Servant and all the other human based origins are bland? Do you have complaints about specific origins or perks?

No, the perks are alright I think. It just has to do with how (relatively) late I jumped there. I mean, thematically it would probably be best if you made Dark Souls your first jump or so, but you'd have to be insane to do that (in part because, even if you take the safe option and become an Undead, you can still die quite easily). So by the time I do go there, I'm strong enough to comfortably deal with mostly everything in the setting, which also means that most perks are kinda useless to me.

Warriors of Sunlight
Way of White
etc
Do these origins all have to be undead? I kinda thought that unless it's mentioned explicitly in the origin that you are, you could choose whether you are a normal human or an undead.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Poker_Star
I like it if only because the idea of taking emps place is pretty cool. I remember some anons talking about how to take over the Imperium from him before too.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@ZeroReborn
half-elves
Why do regular elves suck so much compared to half-elves anyway?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@TalkBomber

Good user.

@ZeroReborn

Oh, sorry. 'Slaves' then.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Flameblow
Why are you even doing a jump if you only want to shit on the source material?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@eGremlin
It's the Dog House item. Have fun, user.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Flameblow
It is 150 cp for a modest stat boost and if you take them with a specific origin you get a small additional benefit. It doesn't do much for you regardless of whether you are a new or old jumper.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Flameblow
Hey NuBee, quick question. How much of a boost do the Lord Souls actually grant? As an example, would Gwyn's Lord Soul boost a lightning power that could destroy a town to something that could destroy a city? Just trying to figure out exactly how it works.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@idontknow
Subconscious limitations on your powers? Maybe the perks you buy are powers they gain/learn/discover throughout the Jump rather than have access to it immediately? Maybe pick up that Kakegurui perk or Medaka Box MC perk to make it so you optionally can always find a challenging foe each jump regardless of the power you possess?

Booteefool
Booteefool

Which perk was it that made it to where gods couldn't just delete you, they had to actually come and do the job themselves?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Booteefool
Alterworld Godslayer.

massdebater
massdebater

@Flameblow
You probably should hand this to your girlfriend as she has enough balls to make the jump actually fit the setting.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Garbage Can Lid
No problem. Took a minute tops.

@askme
They just kinda spawn there after you kill something/somebody.

If it's sentient, sapient or at least a mystical construct, it probably has a soul to be harvested. Both of your examples fly, but enemies that are basically just "remote controlled robot who is pretty much entirely mundane" would not. A sapient robot that can think on its own probably would have a soul via Soul Collector even if it otherwise wouldn't.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Flameblow
You still need to remove the leaving your soul at your bloodstain part, that's not what happens. Also you might want to add in what happens if you die too much without restoring your humanity.

If you really feel the need to give jumper a death based lose condition why not use a canon friendly one like "you lose if you turn into a mindless hollow from repeated deaths without restoring your humanity"?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@SomethingNew
thanks senpai

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Some days you people make it a real hassle to summon up the energy to make content.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@FastChef
Do they have to reluctant or against you? Or can they be hella loyal to you and just take your rough words? Cause Bastard!! Ninja Boys and Medaka Box Jumpanui Village are basically slaves, also Street Fighter has a Ninja Village has one as well. All are items, so no companion limit.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Illusionz
Is Kumagawa popular because he's pretty much the average Veeky Forums poster?

farquit
farquit

@Raving_Cute
Hi OAA

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Raving_Cute
That's why you have to be making the content for yourself. That's my primary motivation. That and the attention.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@idontknow
Skyfather
That reminds me. Just saw Thor: Ragnarok the other day.

So apparently Asgardians are straight-up gods with magic powers as opposed to how they were treated before (with Odin explicitly saying they weren't gods)?

Also can't wait to see SHIELD have a conniption when the Asgardians show up on earth.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@TalkBomber
I also have that one perk that prevents bad shit from happening after you kill the "god of thing", can't recall exactly where it's from.
Always An Ending, from Exalted: Sidereals? There's also No Need To Think About It, from Nier, which has a more general "you'll never screw yourself over irreparably by doing something" effect. I like that perk.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Playboyize
Oh, that makes it a lot more appealing than I first thought because I was worried cleverer beings might find a way to make use of the souls they suddenly have. Might have a way to fluff this, we'll see. Strains the ol' build CP budget, tho

Also, does this mean certain beings could have Lord-tier souls? Like Emps' for example, or one of the more powerful living Heroic Spirits if you met them in the flesh like Arturia or Gil Ozymandias.

Methshot
Methshot

Did anyone else take the True Detective Drawback in Great Detective?
How'd that go?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Boy_vs_Girl
Oh neat!

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@cum2soon
Pretty sure the MCU's reps came out with that first part a while ago but...yeah, the films have done a really bad job of showing that overall.

Not going to lie, everything I've heard about Ragnarok made me not want to go watch it so I still haven't.

@Methshot
How'd that go

I̛͞ ̧ẂE͘͘Á̡̨R̕͡ ̀͜Ņ̸͠O M̡͠A͞S̴͘K͢

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@BinaryMan
Ah, gotcha. I'm picking up what you're putting down.

Do these origins all have to be undead? I kinda thought that unless it's mentioned explicitly in the origin that you are, you could choose whether you are a normal human or an undead.
Nah, you're right, I was bringing them up as such for the question.

@Playboyize
Since I can't convince you then we'll have to agree to disagree. If you don't think they're worth it even at that low a price then you don't have to buy them. As you say, if there's really not much of worth there then there shouldn't be an issue with passing them over. I feel quite differently however, so they're staying as is.

@Carnalpleasure
I feel like that's a fair assessment. They're supposed to be fairly significant upgrades to whatever their respective inclination is.

girlDog
girlDog

@cum2soon
They've always been gods with magic powers. The "you call it science, your ancestors called it magic" line is a reference to how magical forces are part of the physical reality of the MCU and can be studied and analyzed. They're not aliens pretending to use magic, they never were, it's just that magic is natural and not supernatural. Odin claiming they weren't gods was about the moral status of godhood, not a denial that he's a magical super-being.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@MPmaster
I wouldn't know. I just like him cause he was a breath of fresh air in comparison to Medaka always being nice to people. I'd argue you just can't help but root for him.
The dude also has a subtle heart of gold.

askme
askme

So, if you go to Frozen as Elsa's younger twin(thus escaping being stuck with a shiny hat of responsibility) is it better to scuttle the plot and preemptively solve everything by getting rid of Hans Christian Regicide and Duke Weaseltown while making sure Elsa has actual control rather than Conceal or Eternal Winter? Letting the plot go as planned leads to Anna Meeting Christoff without having to play matchmaker. The other leads to not having Elsa play accidental weapon of mass destruction.

idontknow
idontknow

@haveahappyday
the attention.
I will reveal who you really are...NEMO!

You are the star of a quest and its MC.

Behold:

https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/now-you-feel-like-number-none-bleach-arrancar-quest.37531/#post-8241273

Why did you never tell us?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Flameblow
losing your soul at the location of your death.
Wouldn't someone pick up and eat our soul if that happened?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@girlDog
@cum2soon
Its not canon anyway. None of this movie shit is.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@MPmaster
It's why I like him. I identify with him far more than is probably healthy.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@cum2soon
straight-up gods with magic powers
Made it super disappointing how shitty of of a sorcerer Loki was compared to Strange.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Methnerd
What? No one's saying it's canon to the comics. It's an entirely separate continuity with its own set of canon.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@StrangeWizard
Not going to lie, everything I've heard about Ragnarok made me not want to go watch it so I still haven't.
First half was really underwhelming. Felt rushed and eclectic. Second half was pretty good. But ultimately I think they tried too hard to copy the tone of Guardians and the movie suffered for it.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@askme
Not wanting the shiny hat of responsibility
Jeeze, user, it's like you're NOT a despot.

As a more serious answer, the morally right answer is to head off the problem and then play matchmaker at a later date. However, that also means there's no story. The bottom line is that you need to strike a balance between doing good, utilizing the canon story, and making an OC story.

idontknow
idontknow

@Harmless_Venom
Awesome, thanks NuBee. That helps a lot with figuring out what I can do with it. That's actually pretty impressive too. Why, it's almost shocking! Thank you again for the most enlightning answer.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Harmless_Venom
that low a price
It isn't a low price at all. It is 300/150. That isn't cheap. It is a minor stat boost that isn't enough to significantly reduce the amount of souls you'll need to spend on improving them and only give a real benefit if taken with a specific 400 CP perk which may or may not be discounted to us. The improvements to the 400 CP perks are also highly variable in value.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@kizzmybutt
Yeah, notable enemies like the Emperor would have a significantly more powerful soul with an identity of its own, Boss Soul. If by "Lord-Tier Soul" you're asking if anything could drop something with the same concept introducing, incredible power bestowing properties then that's above the workload of Soul Collector.

@kizzmybutt
Nah, it'll get passed over as if this was the game with you being the only one able to perceive/interact with it when dropped.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@askme
You should definitely let it play out as in canon, but for a different reason. With you in the line of succession Hans has to get rid of you as well as Elsa to make sure the crown passes to him (which it wouldn't in any case, but shh! This movie isn't about primogeniture). But then, since you're a jumper and not easily disposed of, he keeps trying crazier and crazier schemes in an attempt to off you, and you get to laugh and laugh at his frustration over how you just won't die.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Snarelure
He's definitely a fun character, but he's also probably one of those guys who's less fun when there's no character/audience barrier between the two of you.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Lunatick
Good points. And of course I'm not a despot, I haven't acquired the good paperwork avoidance perks yet.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@idontknow
I want to buy Skyfather for flavor, but don't want my jumper to be able to just wipe away conflict with a wave.
Lol, what "flavor"? Skyfathers are the leaders of a pantheon which specifically exist because of their ability to "just wipe away conflict with a wave" or otherwise legally deeds. The perk itself starts you at Skyfather-lite-lite-lite (which is planetary, more than enough to wipe conflict away, as it were), taking tens of thousands of years to become a "true" Skyfather. I don't know how you're taking it "for the flavor" if you're excising all of the implications and flavor that exists. Power of that magnitude is not something that street-level gods come into. At certain levels, you just need to accept that there are few jumps that can challenge you unless you take jumps of a similar powerlevel. If you don't want to become able to "wipe away conflict with a wave", then give up on magic entirely. Even mook-tier MCU mages can open portals to anywhere they can think of, and very few people in the chain have the relevant defenses to be able to survive something as simple as teleportation into space. There's no believable way to take Skyfather without trivializing 90% of what comes after, with the exception of similarly high-powered settings.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Gigastrength
If by "Lord-Tier Soul" you're asking if anything could drop something with the same concept introducing, incredible power bestowing properties then that's above the workload of Soul Collector.
So even if you got your hands on the soul of a literal god, they wouldn't be any better than the soul you'd get from a boss soul? That seems pretty disappointing.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@New_Cliche
Lol, what "flavor"?
The "Jumper Force". I like the idea of my life energy being a special magical force.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@SniperGod
Probably doesn't hurt that before I went to frozen, I went to Moana to get wind powers so I could complete my Jack Frost routine with Ice magic from Frozen. (Not to mention being a Young Justice Martian with Young Justice Pyromancy to tell the Martian Fire fear/weakness to suck it) Also, a Norse God of Darkness via Kung Fury. I just seem to refuse to stick with any specific specialization. Still, the point of Moana and Frozen for me was to replicate the MC of a Dreamworks film.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@kizzmybutt
No, because you are dropping other people's souls and nothing happens to you if you lose them.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Gigastrength
What about Ancient Tradition? What would using that on the soul of the Emperor or something do?

idontknow
idontknow

@cum2soon
Blame the fact that MCU tried their hardest to steer away from anything to do with magic. It was all hyper advanced technology, there weren’t gods but advanced aliens.

Thor 1 & 2 were really bad at that. Doctor Strange came out with real magic, although not magic enough, seeing how most the iconic spells were turned into magical artifacts.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Flameblow
How do you make those lines of semicolons overlap like that?

TechHater
TechHater

@idontknow
seeing how most the iconic spells were turned into magical artifacts
Crimson Bands of Cyttorak were neither Crimson nor Bands and we're easily broken out of
Fucking dumb.

FastChef
FastChef

@Flameblow
Alright, there's the minor update.
That doesn't fix the problem anons were complaining about though?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@FastChef
Why should he care? Anons aren't people.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Crazy_Nice
Hey, who let you off your leash, user?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@idontknow
No problem user, I hope the possibilities don't leave you too nerve-ous to get that spark of creativity.

@kizzmybutt
150CP is cheap. Gaining the strength to swing around giant slabs of metal the size of your body, give you knowledge and an affinity for a brand new magical system or berserker style ability to ignore enemy attacks and pain, along with similar abilities, is pretty good I find. That's not mentioning the enhancements they give to a perk you're very likely to purchase anyways. Put back into perspective that you're basically a normal human before this and think about these in a vacuum.

@Spazyfool
Oh, much more powerful beings would give much more powerful souls alright, but they won't literally warp the world and enhance entire sections of your abilities just by possessing them like a Lord Soul would.

@Nude_Bikergirl
On their actual soul or the soul you would gain from Soul Collector?

@Emberburn
I just played around in word until I found something cool. 'AR Carter' font, font size is '10', then it was bolded.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@idontknow
I...understand little of that, but the joke is appreciated.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Emberfire
On their actual soul or the soul you would gain from Soul Collector?
Either/Or. What would each do and how do they compare?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@RumChicken
It is some quest about a Moth Arrancar whos name is Nemo being the MC of the story and their life as they try to survive.

Thanks, I try.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Emberfire
but they won't literally warp the world and enhance entire sections of your abilities just by possessing them like a Lord Soul would.
So the soul of, say, Thor – who can wrap entire worlds in storms – or Mystra – who can control the magical system that forms an integral part of the entire universe – would be shite compared to Gwyn's?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Booteefool
Jump lets you buy 30 non compabion slaves that you can do literally anything to and who get replaced as they die
They are all school students

Now who is injecting fetishes into jumps?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Crazy_Nice
OH. I didn't know that! What a strange coincidence.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@ZeroReborn
Yeah when I first found it I couldn't help but wonder if you knew of it, and were getting paid your royalties.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Emberfire
Aren't there many beings out there whose souls canonically warp the world around them while they're alive? Sorry, don't want to hassle you with this like that stuff about the undead earlier. I suppose I could always just take their original, canonical soul as well as the tagalong soul the perk provides...

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Nojokur
The soul acquired via Soul Collector is of the type found in Dark Souls, so while it would be power appropriate for the being it was collected from, it might not lose out on some details if the being is from a series where souls behave differently or have unique properties as a whole. I'm not too familiar with 40K, so what are souls normally like for the setting?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@LuckyDusty
Can't inject what's already canon.

Techpill
Techpill

@cum2soon
Normal people's souls dissolve on death, the souls of psykers persist but are usually eaten by warp predators

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Stupidasole
Is this one of those settings where it's a good idea to just go in crazy overpowered and beat everyone up?

Jumper loses a game
They pull a gun and just fucking shoot the other player

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Fuzzy_Logic
Reinhard's Briah let him summon his Einherjar with all their WW2 weaponry. Imagine absorbing entire Space Marine legions and launching a crusade in full armor in the Warp, as they fire conceptual bolters deliver the Jumper's wrath to kill the strongest daemons in a single shot (who will also become part of your legions)
@Crazy_Nice
Just have them fuel your powers instead of infinitely respawning.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@cum2soon
Do you think that you'll add scenarios to the Dark Souls 3 jump as well sometime in the future?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Flameblow
Is the a perk that can help us build the magic rings in the Dark Souls? Like Havel's "you equipment weighs less" ring etc. etc.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Carnalpleasure
That or have a secret organization or 3.

Evilember
Evilember

@Sharpcharm
Just have them fuel your powers instead of infinitely respawning.
Did you reply to the right one?

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