Previously on /5eg/ Does winged tiefling with draconic sorcerer wing flying speed stack?
Evan Ward
>Does winged tiefling with draconic sorcerer wing flying speed stack? No - you use whichever speed is greater always.
Lincoln Green
Movement speed doesn't stack unless the ability in question states that it adds to the current movement speed. An ability that gives you a 30ft flying speed and an ability that gives you a 40ft flying speed don't combine for a 70ft flying speed, you just have a 40ft one. If the ability were to say that it ADDS 40ft to your current flying speed, then it would stack. Also fuck you for making a thread before my question about Glyph of Warding triggers was answered.
Landon Morris
Way of the shadow Monk as a drow any tips or tricks
Christian Turner
Yeah, play as a Svirfneblin instead
David Hall
Flip expectations, throw light into an area to create pockets of shadow, be an avid reader, occasionally remark that you wish you didn't have that skin condition that gets you sunburned, prefer not to deal with spiders and ask the big strong barbarian to do so instead.
Mason Torres
>throw light into an area to create pockets of shadow This is a neat idea but I see most DMs going "not how it works shithead, it says dim light or darkness not shadow"
Owen Edwards
REEEEEEEEpost from the last thread, with some fixed typos because I'm a tard.
So my ranger got himself killed off by plant monsters (story of the campaign, this is the 3rd PC in 5 months). So I want to burn the fuckers.
Is a fire genasi red draconic sorcerer/desert storm herald barbarian multiclass at *all* useful? Cripplingly overspecialized, sure, but I love the idea of casting fire spells and then bursting into a ball of flame.
What progression would you do for this? What spells would you take? I'm going to start barb for proficiencies, and obviously I have to get to 3, but beyond that I don't know.
Campaign is level 8 right now if that helps.
Aiden Diaz
Can't I'm locked in as a drow
Aaron Rivera
Anyone tried to run 5e in a modern/futuristic setting? How'd it go?
Zachary Walker
Good dms work with player ideas and character concepts to fit the game, bad ones fly into an autistic rage when you try to do something that isn't RAW, even if it results in nerfing yourself overall.
I've always been happy that my DM works with us. Want to play a heavy armored barbarian? Give up unarmored defense and you lose shield proficiency. Want to play an unarmored bard? You can take one of your magical secrets early, using it for Mage Armor.
Justin Richardson
I suppose you're locked in as a Shadow Monk, too
Jackson Flores
Can anyone tell me which is more powerful Swords Bard or Lore Bard?
& what is the best multiclass options?
Daniel Gomez
Lore Bard has the highest upside potential, Sword Bard is probably the "stronger" choice on average.
Chase Wright
>minmax my character for me Nah
Lucas Jackson
Locked in as Monk I just haven't chosen which path and shadow seems interesting
Cameron Hill
>griggity griggity Grognard >wanting to be effective is for munchkins >ackity ackity autist >this is nothing like my magical realm
Carson Jenkins
It's 5e, unless you intentionally fuck yourself, every character is effective enough. Even PHB BM Ranger and Wot4E are "effective", despite being the worst things printed. The next two worst, PHB Blade Pact and Berserker aren't even bad enough to be noticeable in regular play, they just suffer from less obvious mechanic deficiencies.
Landon Reed
AA 3/Scout X feral tiefling Long Death hill dwarf monk Zealot half-orc barbarian Trying to think about about characters than an HexBladelock Half-elf.
Joshua Bailey
>every character is effective enough My sorcerer with dancing lights, friends, light, and true strike for cantrips and comprehend languages and expeditious retreat as 1st level spells would beg to differ.
Isaiah Hernandez
>unless you intentionally fuck yourself You can ignore stat recommendations, choose not to use a weapon or armor, or use all spell slots casting grease on hills for children, but those all count as fucking yourself intentionally.
Carson Torres
I don't have any first hand experience with the new subclass asshat. This is literally no different than asking a foodie what food you might enjoy. Or a recommendation for which car to drive.
Thank you. Is it better to dueling style or dual wield? Cause i dont want to pigeon hole myself by taking Swords & then taking a trap option. I personally dont picture my character as dual wielding so I'd rather not go that route if it's the only viable way
Michael Smith
You didn't ask for effective. You asked for more powerful. And then you asked for the best multiclasses. And now you appear to be... I don't know, rapping or something?
>unless you intentionally fuck yourself Holy fuck user it was literally right in front of the words you quoted
Sebastian Reyes
People do things like that unintentionally. But you really shouldn't be salty that other people want to make their characters effective at what their characters do and ask for help in doing so.
Julian Bennett
>you I ain't that guy, senpai.
Evan Brown
How do you handle someone with max CHA/insane persuasion skill trying to lead the party/persuade members within the group to do things? My group doesn't let stuff like Persuade affect party to party dialogue anyway, but is it "good roleplaying" to occasionally concede something to the high CHA+Persuade player? Is it bad to disagree with them at every turn?
William Evans
Persuasion is not mind control
Alexander Stewart
Don't you dare ever have fucking social checks in PC-PC interactions.
Luke Rogers
No reason to dual wield in particular, although if you did want to it's one of the more viable places to do so. Personally, picking up shield proficiency from somewhere and going dueling is probably your best option. 2 in fighter is never a bad call, and fighter2/sword bardX lets you pick up protection and dueling. If you prefer sticking with the single class, Bards in general have quite a bit they can do with their bonus action already. Dueling is better imo.
Christopher Price
It's not like asking which food you might like, it's like asking which options in a cooperative roleplaying game make you better than your friends because you can't read abilities and think for yourself. You'd have a point if you asked which was more fun, but you specifically asked for more powerful.
Nolan Morgan
No, they don't. Suboptimal choices? Yes. DURRR I NO CAN DO THING IN FIGHT? No. Seriously, what brand new player thinks of light at all unless it's brought up, let alone thinking they need 2 of their spells for light. Most i've met would take all damaging cantrips.
Isaiah Lewis
>no, they don't Reality would beg to differ.
Juan Thompson
Not sure if this is 5e related but I want to homebrew a fallout based setting, I found some resources but they're not perfect so i'll have to edit a bit. d20 system is the best way to go right? I'm just doing this because I play with my friends and they all like fallout and want to play a tabletop version after I introduced them to DnD, what's the best way to go about this without fucking it up?
James Peterson
I've said, we don't allow any of that shit in PC-PC dialogue, but is it good as a player to lean towards the player with 20 CHAs opinion on matters that divide the group?
Oliver Young
Hour of Reaping affects friendlies as well, right?
Elijah Phillips
>first time DM >setting is half complete because he wanted to "give us some wriggle room" in our characters >be chaotic good kenku cleric with light domain >have to make up my own religion >decide he was raised in the church and forgery skills are the result of faithfully copying texts for years >can recite sermons verbatim >DM jokes he's out on some holy rumspringa >why the fuck not
I have a rough idea of a god of sunlight and redemption, with the character being an attempt to save a member of a "fallen race". I'm sketching possible holy symbols, but everything else is up in the air.
Adam Mitchell
Your character should be fairly receptive to their ideas, even if they end up disagreeing with them. Having a high Cha, especially with a high persuasion, would be roleplayed well by having the other PCs always giving them their ear, or letting them talk, but it isn't going to force anyone to change their minds.
Isaiah King
>is it good as a player to lean towards the player with 20 CHAs opinion on matters that divide the group? No.
Wyatt Phillips
>s it "good roleplaying" to occasionally concede something to the high CHA+Persuade player The argument could be made that yes, it would be in-character to listen to the guy who's really good at talking, especially if his ideas haven't bitten you in the ass before. However, ignoring said character is not bad roleplaying by any metric. Just as a DM can rule that diplomacy has no effect on an NPC that just won't listen, you can rule that a character's words mean fuck all to you, ESPECIALLY if that dick ass bard got you all thrown in jail because "the baron has buttloads of gold, why would he miss a few silver forks?"
So yeah, it's up to you. Just try to separate what you think out of character and what your character would think, and use some abstraction if the player roleplaying the charisma savant isn't actually all that charimatic.
Bentley Bennett
Why? The strong party member is stronger in game, the dexterous one is notable for their fine movements and deft hands, why wouldn't the charismatic one be able to more eloquently and persuasively present their ideas?
Camden Jenkins
I've got anecdotes, you've got made up anecdotes, let's agree you're an idiot and move on.
Gavin Sanchez
Because people are not compelled to care about or value another person's opinion because they have a pleasant personality. People are often swayed by that, but it's not a law of nature and players are the ones who make the judgments about how their characters think and behave.
Charles Gomez
I've got anecdotes, and you've got made up anecdotes. Woah.
Samuel Butler
isnt 5e shit for modern settings?
Colton Bailey
Nigga, i never said that you are forced to agree with them, only that you are more willing to listen. If a low charisma character tries to sway your opinion, you may be polite but not really take in their viewpoint at all. Smile and nod. If a high charisma character tried the same, it won't change your mind, but you actually digest their points and are less likely to disregard them entirely.
Kevin Fisher
Whether someone is more or less willing to listen to someone else is up to that someone.
Aaron Hall
If you disregard the methods, personalities, and behavior of your fellow PCs, you are a poor roleplayer. If those things aren't informed by the stats, you aren't even playing the game
Austin Torres
If you think a stat necessarily corresponds to how someone regards someone else, you're a poor roleplayer. The red dragon's 23 charisma doesn't magically make your character go >huh, rely maeks me thnk... when they're bullshitting you.
Parker Stewart
The book even has quick start suggestions for new players. There's no other reason to do this except intentionally sucking.
Eli Barnes
If you think the magnificent dragon is some ugly lizard, you are ignoring the game entirely. They act and appear majestic, even when behaving terribly. They can be menacing, persuasive or, yes, deceptive. They have cultists and minions at their disposal for a reason. If you have two people arguing, and are indifferent to the arguments themselves, the more persuasive and charismatic person is going to be the one that gets more of your attention. If you ignore a PCs Charisma as a stat, that PC may as well not have stats at all.
Levi Perry
>I think player's necessarily read the book when a large portion of the time DM's don't even lad wew
Joseph Garcia
Read up on Lathander and Amanautor. I probably misppelled those, but they're the Faerunian gods of the new dawn, and the sun, respectively. Borrow as much as you can.
Gavin Reyes
>I am Jedi mind-tricked by someone's charisma score Jesus Christ.
Hunter Cook
So how did they get a class, race, or spell list in the first place? Did they google >least useful caster 5e and print it out?
Robert Gutierrez
Why the fuck would you try to do that??
Colton Baker
>words are hard >pop culture reference!
Oliver Reyes
Their friend told them about some things, they ran out of time, and the friend pointed them to the spell list to finish their character. ~40% of the playerbase is Grognards, so the advice he received was >pick the spells you really like
Thomas Peterson
Someone is incredibly attractive and articulate. They speak words to you. Are you more inclined to listen to this person over another person as a necessary fact/law of the universe?
William Moore
Yes? That's biology and sociology in a nutshell.
Nicholas Wright
why do I share a hobby with logically impaired retards
Joshua Powell
Not sure if you are trolling, but no. DnD is not the right starting point. It will not emulate the mechanics nor the feeling of fallout.
David Moore
Thank you, I love stealing shit.
David Collins
Birds of a feather?
Jacob Taylor
I wouldn't feel visceral pain listening to you if you had any similarities to me.
Jonathan Torres
>Can't stop drafting up sheets for character concepts Help
Daniel Thompson
I wish my players got as into this stuff as you do.
Hunter Parker
So leave?
Jason Lewis
Are there rules somewhere for statting mounted monsters? I want the party to deal with cavalry.
Is it really as simple as using the warhorse and appropriate humanoid's statblocks in the same space?
Also, what's a good "competent, but not more powerful than a level 3 or 4 PC" humanoid block I should adapt for my own needs? Alternatively, how many hit dice should they have? I can do the rest of the calculations from there.
Liam Lewis
No - I relish the feeling of superiority more than I disvalue the pain. I just question why you exist. You're like a martial.
David Cook
So I'm planning to ask my DM to work with me on this, but I'm planning to play a UA Primeval Guardian converted into more of a Werewolf form style thing. Just wondering what people think of my ideas changes.
>Guardian Magic Redo the spells completely later
>Guardian Soul Remove the reach bonus, but also remove the speed penalty.
>Piercing Thorns Change into a natural weapon. Currently it adds +1d6 to a Dueling Rangers 2d8+4+2xDEX damage. So the average total damage currently is 16.5+2xDEX.
I figured changing it to a Natural Attack that deals d12 damage and can use STR or DEX would balance about the same. Goes to 13+2xDEX but frees up the Fighting Style for a different pick.
>Ancient Fortatude Keep as is, after they added in the once per short/long rest it seems fairly balanced.
>Rooted Defense Not sure about this one, most Rangers get a damage boost here but Monster Hunter and Primeval Guardian get more control features. Open to any ideas.
>Guardian Aura Seems fine.
William Edwards
>how many hit dice should they have? as many as it takes to reach the desired number of hit points. afaik there isn't a single creature aside from PCs that actually use their hit dice for anything, so unless you're making your enemy creatures take short rests number of hit dice or size literally do not matter in the slightest.
Just figure out how much average damage your PCs do and give your creatures an amount of HP that will allow them to tank however many hits you want them to be able to tank.
Carson Wood
>haha youre enjoying things and I am not Uhh kay?
Jordan Bailey
Heh, fair enough. I was just trying to use HD as a starting point, because I already know their AC, movement, and damage. Speaking of which, is a d6/d8 versatile polearm that gives reach when 2-handed going to be unbalanced? I don't want a PC to pick one up and kick more ass than necessary with it.
Caleb Martinez
Any DMs or players have experience with Yuan-Ti?
Daniel Ross
For Rooted Defence maybe some sort of pounce ability? Where if you move more then 20ft. before attacking an enemy you can make another attack which has a chance to prone them.
Austin Ross
My friend is playing a berserker barbarian while my other friends are a divination wizard, hexblade warlock, avatar mystic and oath of devotion paladin. He's one of the most effective ones there.
Dylan Gonzalez
I think humanoid spellcaster NPCs are built according to rules where their hit dice number is their "level". A lvl 12 spellcaster has 12d8+12xCON. So if you wanted to tweak their total HP you'd have to tweak CON.
Asher Jenkins
Okay, let's say, hypothetically, I pitted my players against a wumpus. Should it detect as magical or not?
Jayden Bennett
What invocations are the best bang for a warlock's figurative buck? Other than agonizing blast, book of ancient secrets, and every bladelock specific invocation.
Jaxon Barnes
No such design in 5e. Number of hit dice (and final HP count) is arbitrary to fit CR.
Henry Gray
Nah, NPCs caster level is entirely dependent on their spell casting feature. >Archdruid 24d8 >18th level spell caster
Ayden Hall
Has anyone had any experience with Play by Post RPGs using D&D 5e? I want to DM my own game but it's near impossible for me to find a solid block of time I am free each week that I can - that is consistent I mean. My free time is simply too inconsistent to reliably run a once a week game, or even biweekly.
If you have, have any advice? If not, think it could work?
Hunter Wilson
>Be playing friend's homebrew >Looking for some cultists in a lakeside village >We get tipped off that the local Apothecary was visited by some shady figures before we arrived >Rogue fucks off to do whatever >Fine whatever >Interaction with shopkeeper goes alright, she didn't have much information for us >As we discuss what to do next, our dragonborn fighter asks about some herbs >Shopkeep just got in a fresh batch of herbs meant to treat joint pain >Supposed to break off a small piece and chew it >He takes the whole thing at once >Tastes terrible >I ask what side effects it might have if you take that much at once >Headaches and violent diarrhea >Disgonbegood.jpg >Fighter seems fine at first >DM looks at him and says "Make me a Con save" >Succeeds the save, but his stomach begins to roll, as he makes a dash for the bathroom >Needs to make another save >Rolls a 2 >Proceeds to explode diarrhea all over his armor >Whole party comes out just in time to laugh at him >Finishes taking off his now thoroughly soiled armor and wades into lake to wash off >Makes another Con save >Fails >Water around him runs brown as the last of his stomach contents are ejcted >Something under the water grabs him and drags him under >He is now struggling against some underwater monster surrounded by his own shit >He never resurfaces >Party assumes he died of complications arising from explosive diarrhea >We refer to him as Dovakiin, Shitborn from then on
I've had some pretty autistic shit happen in the play group but this beats whatever bullshit we may have gotten up to in our ~1.5 years as a group.
Alexander Young
Mask of Many Faces and Eldritch Sight
Isaiah Morris
Oh, okay. It guess it was only thw case for the few I looked at.
Ian Phillips
>3 con saves for one poison when the first was already a success Your dm sounds like a faggot.
Adam Bell
Maddening Hex looks pretty good and I'm a fan of Gift of the Everliving One and Chains of Carceri for Pact of Chain warlocks.
Joseph Richardson
I got some serious mileage out of Eyes of the Rune Keeper and Eldritch Sight, but that might just be because of how my DM does his thing. Mask of Many Faces was useful as a tiefling, and Repelling Blast was a personal favorite, too.
Nathan Nelson
Devil's Sight is fucking fantastic, even if you don't plan on abusing it.
Levi Phillips
With the release of XGtE, eldritch blast got some serious CC options at level 5. Repelling blast and lance of lethargy let you effectively push someone 30 feet. Grasp of hadar and repelling blast can separate two creatures by 20 feet, forcing enemies to dash to catch up to their allies.
mask of many faces is very useful in social situations but if you are a tomelock, eldritch sight and eyes of the runekeeper can be replaced with book of ancient secrets getting comprehend languages and detect magic.
Owen Lee
Aside from "steal Fireball/Destructive Wave", what other ways are there to get some good damage on a Lore bard?
Brody Flores
I need help with CC in the fey wilds or I'm going to die at my next session.
>am level 8 drow arcane trickster rogue >also neutral evil pizza shit >isn't a problem in normal world (having a bard helps) >in fey woods everything can like read my soul or some shit >every fight, if they can, the enemies will only go for me >strict "DON'T FUCK WITH THE FOREST" warning given by trees upon entry into fey woods so no destruction >can't just hide like normal because enemies can see and walk out of the trees
So far the fighter has been the most help with trip attack and being able to shove people over, but it's not very effective when fighting actual trees. Pls help I can't spend 6 hit dice every time we rest
Daniel Bell
Without any more info than that? Your DM seems like kind of a dick. Since when do fey care whether you're evil or not so long as you don't do anything?
Justin Gonzalez
Holy Sword is pretty great for adding overall DPR, even if you aren't personally rolling. Spirit Guardians is just as good on you as a cleric. Spiritual Weapon is a bonus action damage dealer. Summons are great for theoretical fight efficiency, terrible for actually playing the game. Paralysis increases team damage output significantly, Hold X is pretty great. Find Greater Steed gives you a permanent body to throw at people. Dragon Breath is good damage for spell economy, and is cheesable with find familiar or find steed of either variety.
Lucas Rivera
I'm this user any ideas for a good name
Jason Fisher
Dar'knis Ne'erlit
Liam Murphy
I may have gone through the belongings of a bunch of hippy satyrs while they were distracted by the shamisen duel between their leader and our bard. Nobody saw me and there was nothing to take, but I may have started it. I don't really know though this is the first time I've been in the fey wilds and I just assumed the forest has eyes or some shit.
Blake Rivera
Nondetection or Amulet of Proof Against Detection and Location or any Divination blocking abilities should keep that "soul" reading shit from happening, unless your DM has just decided fuck you. (Which if you aren't getting saves for this shit, it sounds like we've already burned that bridge) So yeah, you're fucked m8. Ask your DM why he let you play a NE character if he was just going to shit on you with no saves for no real reason when you aren't even acting evil.
Jack Cooper
Na'ru-to
John Collins
>Dragon Breath on familiars/steeds. Hot shit, why I didn't I think of that. Thanks. If only I wasn't dead set on picking Counterspell at 6, I'd take Find Steed+Dragon's Breath just for the novelty of it.