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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

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Snarelure
Snarelure

@Evil_kitten
First for Hive Mind

whereismyname
whereismyname

second for CADIA

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Evil_kitten
Friendly reminder that corpse and chaos worshippers are both retarded.
Real men make their own path

hairygrape
hairygrape

I want to use drop pods, but I hate painting interiors. If I glue my pods shut, can I be accused of WAAC for any reason?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@hairygrape
nah bro, don't worry
Just make sure to make it clear what weapon it has (if it can take weapons?)

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Evil_kitten
Primarch progenitor, to your glory!

RavySnake
RavySnake

@hairygrape
I have no idea what gluing your drop-pod has to do with being WAAC so I think you'll be good

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

tfw finally going to paint my dark angels from dark vengeance
going to paint them up as ultramarines and give no fucks
I can't believe I put off painting these shitheads for so fucking long, I've painted everything else

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Evil_kitten
Can we all agree that the eight legion are the best traitors?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Snarelure
Reminder that Nids suck so much that their big bad monster can't scare a one-armed guardsman.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Harmless_Venom
real men let their emotions overtake them and let themselves be enslaved by malicious warp entities
Fixed that for you

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@SniperWish
I fucking loved the stomping in that animation. But god damn I hated the edgy protag in the short who kept going on about "LMAO, I DONT KNOW HOW MANY TIMES IVE EXECUTED PEEPS XDDDXD LMAO NUTHIN PERSONAL HERETIK >:3" *Unzips the Emperor's Peace*

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Ignoramus
They are my second favorite army after my Templars

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@viagrandad
God damn I wish we could get legit terrifying shit like the background in your image for the Night Lords.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Ignoramus
Uhhhh that doesn't look like the Emperor's Children

TreeEater
TreeEater

@hairygrape
@RavySnake
Thanks, I just remember that a few months ago there was something about taking lots of drop pods being the cheesiest thing ever because of an FAQ clarification, but I don't recall what that was.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Ignoramus
No because they suck at literally everything.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Ignoramus
I've often wondered if I like the eight so much because the night lords omnibus was the first warhammer novel I read.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@TreeEater
That was 7th.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@TreeEater
I have never experienced drop pod spam, but I probably wouldn't care if I did - it's a thematic thing that Space Marines do all the time.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@whereismyname
Not basking in the glory of Smuglord

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@hairygrape
You used to have to open them up, you might now still have to, but either way dont glue them.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Raving_Cute
Nigga, why would you do it? Just control yourself and stop worshipping beings

happy_sad
happy_sad

tfw personality like dorn and guilliman combined

autism is suffering honestly

Techpill
Techpill

@SniperWish
That's why they're great. Faction wanking is cancer.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Ignoramus
Alpha >Word Bearers > Iron Warriors > World Eaters > Emperor's Children > Night Lords > Death Guard > Red Corsairs (they're legion-sized by this point) > TSons > Black Legion

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Techpill
Tfw Iron Warriors are literally not fucking allowed to win against the Fists
Tfw the obvious bias in all conflicts is beyond sickening

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@happy_sad
tfw personality like Perturabo
It hurts.
I got angry all the time for little things.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@LuckyDusty
Have grit, Iron Warrior

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@LuckyDusty
Well, they BTFO the fists in the Iron Cage.

idontknow
idontknow

@Stupidasole

it's okay, friend. have you tried talking about it?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@idontknow
No

Emberburn
Emberburn

I'm thinking about starting an army, but I have a couple questions.
I like the Space Marine tanks and robots, is there a specific chapter that will let me field the most amount of tanks and robots?
Secondly, what's the deal with Primaris Space Marines? Are they just another kind of Space Marine I can mix in with regular Space Marines, or are they their own thing?

RavySnake
RavySnake

How's this for a 2000pt Night Lords list? Mainly going against Blood Angels but probably against some Tau, Tyranids, and Orks as well later:

Outrider Detatchment

HQ
Chaos Lord w/ Jump Pack (Mark of Khorne)
- Combi-Melta/The Murder Sword

Fast Attack
Raptor Squad A (5) (Mark of Slaanesh)
- 2x Plasma Gun, 2x Plasma Pistol, 2x Bolt Pistol/Chainsword

Raptor Squad B (5) (Mark of Khorne)
- 3x Plasma Pistol/Chainsword, 2x Bolt Pistol/Chainsword

Warp Talons (5) (Mark of Khorne)
- 5x Pairs of Lightning Claws

Flyer
Helturkey (Mark of Khorne)
- Baleflamer/Heldrake Claws

Vanguard Detatchment

HQ
Sorcerer in Terminator Armor (Mark of Tzeentch)
- Death Hex/Warptime
- Combi-Melta/Force Staff

Elites
Chosen Squad A (5) (Mark of Slaanesh)
- 5x Combi-Bolter, 1x Power Axe

Chosen Squad B (5) (Mark of Slaanesh)
- 5x Combi-Bolter, 1x Power Axe

Terminator Squad (7) (Mark of Khorne)
- 7x Combi Melta, 2x Chainfist, 1x Power Fist, 4x Power Axe

Transport
Chaos Rhino
- 1x Combi-Bolter, 1x Combi-Melta

Batallion Detachment

HQ
Chaos Lord in Terminator Armor (Mark of Khorne)
- Combi-Melta/Chainfist

Daemon Prince (Mark of Khorne)
- Warp Bolter/Daemonforged Axe

Troops
Cultist Squad A (13) (Mark of Khorne)
- 12x Autoguns, 1x Heavy Stubber

Cultist Squad B (13) (Mark of Khorne)
- 12x Autopistol/Brutal Assault Weapon, 1x Flamer

Cultist Squad C (12) (Mark of Khorne)
- 5x Autogun, 5x Autopistol/Brutal Assault Weapon, 1x Shotgun, 1x Flamer

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

How fitting that's OP's picture. I'm a black templars player just returning to the game after a few years. Apparently I'm in the space marine codex now, but I bought the latest rulebook and new codex today. Any advice for someone who hasn't played this thing since high school?

Also apparently half the galaxy is gone. I'm amazed to actually see things moving forward.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Emberburn
Iron hands and Primaris are just tougher marines with springs in their legs.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@TurtleCat
This edition favors hordes and weight of fire so crusader squads, crusader squads, crusader squads. Just pretend you're playing orks

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@LuckyDusty
Don't forget about how they also job to Death Guard and Tyranids.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Lord_Tryzalot

Black tide instead of green tide? Sounds like Europe.

How are dreadnoughts these days? It's the one model I always regretted not getting.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

What's y'alls favorite legion rankings? In terms of fluff/gameplay/aesthetic/unknowable obscure criteria of your choice. For me it goes:

S-tier
Salamanders (Bros)
Imperial Fists (No fucks given)
Alpha Legion (Pragmatic, self-serving, sneaky bastards)
Night Lords (Cowards, Thieves, Liars, and Sadists)

A-tier
White Scars (Cool fluff completely underrepresented)
Thousand Sons (Magnus did nothing wrong)
Raven Guard (Slightly less self-honest stealthy psychopath)
Blood Angels (Sanguinius T_T7)

B-tier
World Eaters (Tragic retards)
Death Guard (Less tragic retards)
Emperor's Children (Mostly because they're so fabulous)
Sons of Horus (If abandon wasn't such a perpetual disappointment/uninteresting character they'd rank higher)

C-tier
Dark Angels (I'm so mysterious only works for so long before it gets irritating plus robes over power armor looks dumb)
Iron Warriors (Autism legion aka /tg/)
Iron Hands (So boring I forget they exist half the time)
Ultramarines (Vanilla, but not in a good way)

D-tier
Space Wolves (Hypocritical furry idiots)
Word Bearers (Fuck Erebus)

WebTool
WebTool

@TreeEater
More like USA

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@TreeEater
I've always kind of loathed them, have only ever bought two. One for my BT to be dakka Tancred and then a NL contemptor because I think that may be my favorite model of all time. Contemptors and Leviathans are GOAT

TechHater
TechHater

@TalkBomber
this is godawful.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@RavySnake
Night Lords
Against Tyranids & Orks
You realize your spoopy will have no effect and they will almost certainly massacre you, right?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Carnalpleasure
I agree with everything you just said

MPmaster
MPmaster

@TurtleCat
You're in for a treat. All transports are assault transports now. You can, as always, ignore everything you read here. The game is much smoother now, and you'll have fun if you play with decent people.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Carnalpleasure
Nigga, the alpha legion has a manlet as primarch.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Fuzzy_Logic
Iron hands
aww man. Are there any cool chapters that use lots of tanks and robots?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Sir_Gallonhead
Yeah, I hope that gets sorted if the movie ever gets released.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Sir_Gallonhead
Tfw the protagonist of a greatly animated 40k movie is literally going to be babby revolver ocelot.

I mean, there are worse things, sure, but it is rather unfortunate.

Evilember
Evilember

@PurpleCharger
Yup legion trait is ass but their colors and mantra are dope so fuuuuuuck it.

likme
likme

@Sharpcharm
babby revolver ocelot.
Revolver Ocelot was at least skilled though when he was young as we saw. This guy smashes an old guy's vase for extra edge by invoking the "Cat and Mouse" trope, and it's his lackies that actually get the guy caught and cornered. All he did was come in at the end acting cool and just shot the guy.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@MPmaster

The new rules do look a lot quicker. I'm planning on heading to a game store this weekend.

@VisualMaster

I'd be happy with one, even if I don't field it. Also GOAT? Not a phrase I remember.

And another general question, what's the BT view on primaris marines? I could see them going either way.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Evilember
Your list is poorly constructed for even moderately optimized melee combat and combi-bolter Chosen are your only significant ranged. Where's the anti-tank? You're going to get crushed by any halfway decent list of any of the factions you named.

At least when the broken remnants of your army flee with tails between their legs it will be fluffy.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@likme
@haveahappyday

True. At the very least, I really do hope at some point they get the money to hire better VA's for the english version. Hell, I just hope that this get's a successful enough release that it actually gets GW to finally start considering licensing movies with 40k.(Although that may also be a problem with no publishers or studios being interested in doing one as well.)

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Evil_kitten
Almost winning is losing user.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Soft_member
Iron Hands are cool tho.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@StonedTime
Where's the anti-tank?

Gee if only there were some meltas in there.... But these models are all I have. Care to make some recommendations, hotshot?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Nojokur
Well the Iron Warriors didn't get wiped out by Orks so...

askme
askme

So how obnoxious would it be to run a few plague crawlers and bloat drones as a pack with plaguespitters? It would effectively be 6d6 or 8d6 S7 heavy flamers with a reroll all wounds warlord trait on a winged demon prince nearby. The group could effectively move 10-15" a turn and shoot 9"

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Emberburn

robots
Closest thing you'll get to robots in a marine are Dreadnoughts or Servitors.
Blood angels have a good few specialised Dreadnought variants.

what's the deal with Primaris Space Marines?
They're space marines v2. An improvement on the originals.
They have their own units apart from standard tactical marines, but they can share detachments.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Emberfire
Personally, I just pretend they don't exist. Trash on the tabletop and a mistake in the narrative

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Emberfire
Also GOAT? Not a phrase I remember.

Gangsta Of All Time

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Ignoramus
What do you do if you play against Primaris Marines?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Evil_kitten
I see no enemy units on the table. I WIN!

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Is there a PDF for chapter approved yet?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Evil_kitten
laugh at these oddly large marines as I swamp them in black armored rage monkeys

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Ignoramus
I did, my 2k AdMech War Convo got tabled top of turn 3 to Wolf drop pod spam. Including my fortifications

FastChef
FastChef

@TalkBomber
5 star
Dark Angels
World Eaters
Blood Angels
Imperial Fists
4 star
Space Wolves
Emperor's Children
White Scars
Night Lords
Sons of Horus
3 stars
Salamanders
Ultramarines
Word Bearers
Raven Guard
Iron Warriors
Iron Hands
2 stars
Thousand Sons
Alpha Legion
1 star
Death Guard

Illusionz
Illusionz

Ok, so I was reading the DG codex and came across this stratagem. Now I want to spawn a fuckton of zombies, but have some questions.

Can the poxwalker units go above their starting/maximum size with this?

Do I actually have to buy all the extra poxwalker models or can I proxy them somehow? Anyone have any ideas what to proxy with?

Is it allowed to do stupid things like spawn new models in unit coherency but leading outwards and tie up enemy units?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Emberfire
GOAT?
GOATest of all time

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

So we can all agree that snakebites are the best klan, right? I mean, the other klans can't even raise their own squiggoths.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@TalkBomber
S - tier
Imperial Fists
Night Lords
World Eaters
White Scars

These are my favorites and I don't really have any strong negative feelings about the other legions, can find something I like about all of them.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

AoS Nurgle in January.

girlDog
girlDog

@Stark_Naked
pic above is this.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Stark_Naked
they aren't. They're aren't even the coolest first founding chapter with black armor

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Khorne Daemonkin Or just the Bloodtithe table when?

massdebater
massdebater

@Stark_Naked
MORE nurgle for aos
yaaaaaaay...

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Stark_Naked
Since it's Daemons it's gonna be a dual release. Expect to get rules for the Glottkin in 40K as well, since they said that was something they wished to do, and he was off in the background of one of the Death Guard promotional images

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Burnblaze
Deathskullz are the best

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Illusionz

Can the poxwalker units go above their starting/maximum size with this?
RAI yes, because it can include the dead from other units. Yours or your opponents.

Do I actually have to buy all the extra poxwalker models or can I proxy them somehow?
Poxwalkers are all over the place. Try ebay for cheap deals or facebook trading pages.

Is it allowed to do stupid things like spawn new models in unit coherency but leading outwards and tie up enemy units?
Can't be within 1" of an enemy unit outside the fight phase, unless you're already in combat with it.

Doesn't this require reinforcement points though?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@massdebater
It's likely gonna be the last Nurgle release for either system for a while, since there's a decent likelihood they're gonna release a "Daemons of Nurgle" book for both systems at the same time.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Burnblaze
Doesn't this require reinforcement points though?
I thought you only needed reinforcement points for new units, not adding models to a unit. Like tyranids don't pay reinforcement points to bolster gaunt units.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@TalkBomber
Here's mine after reading all the HH books AND all the new lore:

S-tier
Sons of Horus
Alpha Legion
Raven Guard

A-tier
Word Bearers
Iron Warriors
Thousand Sons

B-tier
Iron Hands
World Eaters
Death Guard
Night Lords
Ultramarines

C-tier
White Scars
Imperial Fists
Blood Angels
Salamanders

D-tier
Emperor's Children
Space Wolves
Dark Angels

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@massdebater
ANOTHER Chaos release
Where are all the fucking models they tease in Rumor Engines?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Burnblaze
LEL YOUZ BAKWATA GITZ DONT EVEN 'AV ANYFING WERF 'AVIN. WHERES YA TEEF? YA DAKKA AND BOOMZ? YA SHINY GOLDZ?

DIS GIT IZ GUNNA BE FOOD FER DAT SQUIGGY.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Burnblaze
I'm fairly sure that it does not require reinforcement points to refill the units, but going above the limit I'm not 100% on.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Sir_Gallonhead
Laspred. Havocs. Combi Plasma Termies with MoS.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Fuzzy_Logic

you only needed reinforcement points for new units
Ah, you're right.

I watched my buddy pull this shit a couple of days ago with 3 mobs of 20 pox walkers, all in close proximity. When one mob started dying, it got added to another.
He had Typhus and some named character too that re-rolled 1s on DR rolls too.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Lunatick
SAYZ DE TEEF DISPENSIN' GIT. OPEN UP AN' PAY YER RENT. I SAYZ YA OWE ME.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Boy_vs_Girl

going above the limit I'm not 100% on
You may be right, I interpret things from a fluff perspective rather than a RAW one.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Flameblow
Fuck yes! That sounds exactly what I want to do. A goddamn plague zombie apocalypse!

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Evil_kitten
Fact: Admech are a under rated army.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

How’s this look for a pure Primaris force? Just bought Dark Imperium

FastChef
FastChef

reece says there is some interesting new fluff in the DA dex
along with some hints as to what is to come...

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

They are making another phone game...

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@DeathDog
Because people play the shittiest build all the time.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@massdebater
Itll be a decent release

Great Unclean One / Ku'Gath Plaguefather
some kind of human sized unit ( either Poxwalkers for AoS, or Pestigors
Beasts of Nurgle
Snailboy
Beasts of Nurgle
maybe 1 or 2 other things like clampack characters.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Crazy_Nice
Hope they make Herald of Nurgle available for purchase again.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Poker_Star
Yes. There was a link in the OP over the last few days, no idea why it's been removed.

I also tried my hand a full featured conversion to PDF yesterday, which can be downloaded here: https://mega.nz/#!pfZDDZwK!wxk8yqBaUbT8FQ_M0A27pSTIfOez5CWKMhFdA_i0yXE

SniperGod
SniperGod

Are there any Horus Heresy books that focus on the Night Lords? I've read what I think is all the post Heresy books staring them (Night Lords trilogy and Prince of Crows). It's been surprisingly hard to find much material on them.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@TalkBomber

S-tier
Word Bearers because they fucked everything up for everyone and all I ever wanted was the Truth
Emperor's Children because I empathize with their degeneracy
Alpha Legion because tacticool
[POWER GAP]
A tier
Raven Guard because tacticool, but less sneaky, and they have cool successors
Night Lords because I empathize with their degeneracy
Blood Lords because they have cool successors and they were Sigmarines before Sigmarines were shit
No strong feelings whatsoever about any of the others

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@SniperWish
"Why have you woken me from my slumber?" "We're going for a walk venerable battle brother!"

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@happy_sad

Brother A Skull
kek
Is his name A. Skull, with A. being an initial, or do you think his bros just call him A Skull because that's some kind of 40k slang?

@SniperWish
Blood Lords

kek whoops

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Carnalpleasure
Thank you.

farquit
farquit

@DeathDog
I'm hopeful for a 40k movie in the future, there's been a trend towards darker movies from Hollywood recently, and R-rated stuff is more common.

massdebater
massdebater

@farquit
40k would be better as either a Band of Brothers style Guard story or episodic GoT style with the Horus Heresy. Waaaaaay too much info for a movie.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@SniperGod
Both Pharos and Angels of Caliban feature NL, but they are Curze is present in a few others. To be fair most of the HH books are wanking the Loyalist characters so beware. I would actually recommend reading through them all in order to get the bigger picture.

Here's the full list:
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Horus_Heresy_Series

StonedTime
StonedTime

Why's the thread so dead tonight, did anons get themselves banned again?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@MPmaster
taufag detected

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Is the GSC insurrection set any good?
Or should I just start a Guard Army?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@massdebater
Could do a Gorkamorka movie if they wanted to go for a one shot of little importance.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@askme
Sounds great, good for clearing any bubble wrap units or throwing a lot of dice at anything big

iluvmen
iluvmen

@CodeBuns
Night lordfag actually.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@massdebater
Warhammer 40,000 needs a large budget to properly represent the setting, or have Guard Regiments putting down heretical uprisings. I don't want bad cgi daemons, nids, etc.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@CodeBuns
Its T'auf'ag thank you very much.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Fuzzy_Logic
if you wanna gsc get someone to split overkill, same amount of shit for less

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Firespawn
F'or the Great'er Go'od

Illusionz
Illusionz

@TalkBomber
robes over power armor looks dumb

You have objectively shit taste sir and you ain't my nigga.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@TechHater
Yiff faggot detected

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@iluvmen
Fucking A fair enough.
I like their heresy era stuff, wish they had gotten better rules in 8e

Supergrass
Supergrass

@ZeroReborn
Anyone? Or are Primaris Marines idiot proof?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Stark_Naked
AoS Nurgle in January.
I think you mean Nurgle in January. 40k Daemon Codex comes out at the same time.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Supergrass
Not a lot of fans of Primaris Marines here user, regardless of tabletop rules being good or bad.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Stark_Naked
more nurgle shit
I want this to stop.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@massdebater
At this point I am convinced nurgle models are popular because they are easier to paint than Space Marines.

TechHater
TechHater

@Stark_Naked
@girlDog
Merry Christmas to me and a Happy New Year

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@massdebater
@happy_sad
retards acting like this hasn't been confirmed since the DG release
??? We've had the new art of the Nurgle stuff incoming for ages.

This is no different than when Tzeentch Disciples got an update after Thousand Sons.

All of the Chaos stuff is in two waves.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I’m an AoS player and I want to start 40k in the new year. I’m thinking about playing Astra Militarium. Which is the best route to take? Swarms of meat bags or lots of tanks. I like the idea of long range indirect fire, too. Can any point me to some army building or tactical resources. How do you feel about AM for a semi-new player?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Stark_Naked
All of you guys are ignoring the shining box.
gold shine
angelic female voice effect
A face so suprised he cant beleive what he is seeing

Sisters confirmed

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Supergrass

They're weak, in all honesty, You won't be able to design a particularly strong list with them.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Fried_Sushi
nah, it was in the stormcast room, it's more sigmarines

girlDog
girlDog

@Harmless_Venom
Stormcast is the name of the general board room you idiot, it has nothing to do with what was in the case.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@PurpleCharger
So you are saying i should be hyped for a Angron Primarch model since it would mean more Daemons of Khorne?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Spazyfool
The nice thing about Guard is that either way is legit and very effective.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Fried_Sushi
It was a green shine. It's the Great Unclean One to go with the Beast.

massdebater
massdebater

@Fried_Sushi
implying it isn't Female Sanguinius.

likme
likme

Please rate this Tyranid list and give advice:

BRIGADE DETACHMENT

*HQ*

Hive Tyrant with Wings 170
Rending Claws 0
Heavy Venom Cannon 25
TOTAL 195

Hive Tyrant with Wings 170
Rending Claws 0
Heavy Venom Cannon 25
TOTAL 195

Hive Tyrant with Wings 170
Rending Claws 0
Heavy Venom Cannon 25
TOTAL 195

*ELITES*

Haruspex 198
Haruspex 198
Haruspex 198

*FAST ATTACK*

Mucolid Spore 20
Mucolid Spore 20
Mucolid Spore 20

*HEAVY SUPPORT*

Carnifex 67
Heavy Venom Cannon 25
Stranglethorn Cannon 25
Enhanced Senses 10
TOTAL 127

Carnifex 67
Heavy Venom Cannon 25
Stranglethorn Cannon 25
Enhanced Senses 10
TOTAL 127

Carnifex 67
Heavy Venom Cannon 25
Stranglethorn Cannon 25
Enhanced Senses 10
TOTAL 127

*TROOPS*

Ripper Swarms (3 models) 33
Ripper Swarms (3 models) 33
Ripper Swarms (3 models) 33

Tyranid Warriors (3 models) 60
3 Bone Swords 6pts
3 Deathspitters 15pts
TOTAL 81

Tyranid Warriors (3 models) 60
3 Bone Swords 6pts
3 Deathspitters 15pts
TOTAL 81

Tyranid Warriors (3 models) 60
3 Bone Swords 6pts
3 Deathspitters 15pts
TOTAL 81

*GRAND TOTAL 1902*

Help me figure out what to do with the remaining 98 points to bring the total to 2000

hairygrape
hairygrape

@girlDog
more stormcast will come out before sisters so I'll just claim i'm right

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@happy_sad
Possibly, except Khorne got the new Bloodthirsters already so they might be the exception to the rule.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Garbage Can Lid
Ah well that makes me sad I guess, I still have like 5kpts of regular Dark Angel models to fall back on but I really do prefer the look of primaris to nonbike and terminator units aesthetically.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Anyone have a good competent Death Guard list? Lists I've seen on Dakka seem underwhelming to me and I want a good skeleton to work around.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

THE IRON WARRIORS ARE HERE ALREADY

BROTHERS, ACTIVATE PROTOCOL "LAST WALL"

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I switch between using my Russes as tank commanders and normal Russes but sometimes they are both in the list at the same time. It can be confusing for the opponents so I was wondering what would be a good thing to magnetize on that could designate tank commanders. A banner maybe?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Gigastrength
Dammit, This makes me wonder tho. If Artillery units had the whole Damage spills over rule that happens in Age of Sigmar do you think they would be better because i would love to fucking use Skullcannons finally.

girlDog
girlDog

What's a cool tyranid color scheme

takes2long
takes2long

@Fried_Sushi
BROTHERS, ACTIVATE PROTOCOL "LAST WALL"

Too late. The illegal immigrants already got through.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Emberburn

Iron Hands or Blood Angels

Evilember
Evilember

@girlDog
pale grey skin with dark blue carapace, base with snow

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Harmless_Venom
A Tank Commander sticking out the top hatch.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Stark_Naked
@Fried_Sushi
What's the source vid on these? I haven't seen it yet and Warhammer TV(?) has a fetish for unlisted videos.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Stupidasole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MofgqGcXsRI

takes2long
takes2long

@Carnalpleasure
Switch Death Guard with Tsons ad we gud

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Harmless_Venom

Magnetise radio modules and make the commander cupolas detachable.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@RavySnake
If the doors are shut theres no LOS through the drop pod. Even though technically the doors are open.

Its pretty low level cheese if its cheese at all.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

ok guys if i run this how bad am i going to get my ass handed to me?
(i'd use brimstone horrors but i don't have any)
+++ New Roster (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [127 PL, 1987pts] +++

++ Supreme Command Detachment (Chaos - Daemons) [33 PL, 540pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Chaos with Wings [11 PL, 180pts]: Khorne, Malefic talon

Daemon Prince of Chaos with Wings [11 PL, 180pts]: Khorne, Malefic talon

Daemon Prince of Chaos with Wings [11 PL, 180pts]: Malefic talon, Tzeentch

++ Patrol Detachment (Chaos - FW Heretic Astartes) ++

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Daemons) [46 PL, 672pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Chaos with Wings [11 PL, 212pts]: Hellforged sword
Tzeentch: Bolt of Change

The Changeling [5 PL, 100pts]: Treason of Tzeentch

+ Troops +

Horrors [10 PL, 120pts]: 15x Pink Horror

Horrors [10 PL, 120pts]: 15x Pink Horror

Horrors [10 PL, 120pts]: 15x Pink Horror

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [24 PL, 470pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Mortarion [24 PL, 470pts]: Blades of Putrefaction, Curse of the Leper, Miasma of Pestilence

++ Patrol Detachment (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [24 PL, 305pts] ++

+ HQ +

Ahriman on Disc of Tzeentch [10 PL, 166pts]: Death Hex, Warptime, Weaver of Fates

+ Troops +

Rubric Marines [14 PL, 139pts]
Aspiring Sorcerer: Force sword, Inferno Bolt Pistol
5x Rubric Marine w/ Inferno Boltgun: 5x Inferno boltgun

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Fried_Sushi
An Imperial fists vs Iron warriors planetary battle would be humorous

w8t4u
w8t4u

@likme
Haruspexes suck, replace them with something else. What Fleet are you running?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Nude_Bikergirl

Copy-paste from battlescribe
https://youtu.be/MIZbGSXeWWE

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Soft_member
What exactly do you mean by planetary battle?
What was Cage?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Fried_Sushi
IN HIS NAME! FOR SIGISMUND AND IMPERIUM!

Firespawn
Firespawn

@w8t4u
I don't know. I'm brand new to Tyranids. Which would you recommend?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Playboyize
just because you hate it so much i'll be sure to have every army a copy/paste dump from bscribe just for you.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@eGremlin
If you don't format to make shit more readable no one will give you feedback. Then we'll see how long you keep up those dumps.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

deathwatch are fluffy in an inquisitor army just like grey knights are, right?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Garbage Can Lid

Yes

King_Martha
King_Martha

@GoogleCat
just for you

+++ gmg post errata (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [109 PL, 1995pts] +++

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - FW Heretic Astartes) [19 PL, 302pts] ++

+ Flyer +

Chaos Fire Raptor Assault Gunship [19 PL, 302pts]: Hellstrike missiles
Quad heavy bolters: 2x Quad heavy bolter

++ Spearhead Detachment (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [46 PL, 922pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Black Legion

+ HQ +

Abaddon the Despoiler [12 PL, 240pts]

Sorcerer [6 PL, 98pts]: Bolt pistol, Delightful Agonies, Force sword, Mark of Slaanesh, Prescience

+ Heavy Support +

Chaos Predator [9 PL, 190pts]: No Chaos Mark, Twin lascannon
Two lascannons: 2x Lascannon

Chaos Predator [9 PL, 190pts]: No Chaos Mark, Twin lascannon
Two lascannons: 2x Lascannon

Havocs [10 PL, 204pts]: No Chaos Mark
Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
3x Havoc w/ boltgun
Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Lascannon
Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Lascannon
Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Lascannon
Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Lascannon

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [44 PL, 771pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Renegade Chapters

+ HQ +

Dark Apostle [5 PL, 76pts]: Bolt pistol, No Chaos Mark, Power maul, The Black Mace

+ Elites +

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 133pts]: 7x Chainsword and bolt pistol
Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power axe

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 133pts]: 7x Chainsword and bolt pistol
Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power axe

Noise Marines [11 PL, 244pts]
2x Marine w/ Blastmaster: 2x Blastmaster
7x Marine w/ Sonic blaster: 7x Sonic Blaster
Noise Champion: Bolt pistol, Doom siren, Sonic blaster

+ Flyer +

Heldrake [10 PL, 185pts]: Baleflamer, Heldrake claws, No Chaos Mark

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

Soft_member
Soft_member

@TalkBomber

S-Tier:
Dark Angels (god tier aesthetic)
Emperor's Children
Blood Angels
Salamanders

A-tier
Raven Guard
White Scars
Death Guard
Thousand Sons

B-Tier
Word Bearers
Alpha Legion
Imperial Fists (generic, but redeemed by Templars/Dorn's crippling autism)

C-Tier
Sons of Horus (vanilla)
Ultramarines (vanilla)
Iron Hands (generic)

Literal retards tier
Space Wolves (drunken furry retards)
World Eaters (screaming retards whose primarch infected a perfectly decent legion with retardation)
Iron Warriors (muh decimation, ect.)

Ultimate Jobber Tier
Night Lords (seriously, have the Night Lords EVER won a battle?)

viagrandad
viagrandad

@GoogleCat

Actually what is the recommended way to list on here, anyway? I can read this list just fine

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Deadlyinx
What was Cage?

That time when both legions were forced to build bunkers and trenches out of dead marines in order to survive. It was painful but it gave Perty a chuckle and Dorn a mighty stiffy.

cum2soon
cum2soon

FIRES WHEN
I
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E
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W
H
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iluvmen
iluvmen

@ZeroReborn
you've got no anti-tank

Inmate
Inmate

@TalkBomber
Alpha Legion
pragmatic
Pick one. They have one bad case of inferiority complex. That's why they always go to unnecessary lengths to flaunt their "skills"

likme
likme

@cum2soon
Soon™

Methnerd
Methnerd

@CouchChiller
I like to imagine that some Dread's like to get woken up every now and again to just kind of hang out and help with the new recruits a little.

Dreadbro's are a thing I didn't know I wanted until now.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@TurtleCat
Huh interesting.
Finding someone to take Deathwatch might be a challenge though.

Evilember
Evilember

@Garbage Can Lid
Anything Imperial is fluffy in a Inquisitor army.

By the authority bestowed upon me by the Holy Emperor, I hereby blah blah

SniperGod
SniperGod

@cum2soon
They are literally stuck on finishing the lore last i heard.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Snarelure

Deathwatch are great conversion fodder, you can spend many an evening idly kitbashing veterans and vanguards.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Methnerd
It's canon that sarcophagus aren't constantly connected to the dreadnought right? I wonder if they have like, casual dreadnoughts like little walker robots the dread can get connected to so they can walk around the chapter hq.

JunkTop
JunkTop

So I've been out of the 40k lore for a long time now, lets just call it some years. I've only really been keeping up with Gaunt's Ghosts and whatever Dark Angels novels I might find around, but I want to get back into it.

Anyone got any good recommendations? The only thing is I can't say I'm exceptionally interested in the Horus Heresy.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@SniperGod

Who waited two damn years for lore?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@viagrandad
Just like the detachments, units, points costs and essential equipment details. There's no need for a line like
++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - FW Heretic Astartes) [19 PL, 302pts] ++
Just say it's a spearhead and list the units.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@haveahappyday
it gave Perty a chuckle and Dorn a mighty stiffy.
Do you think deep, deep, down they're secretly good bros to each other?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@viagrandad

Minimalist style:

Tactical squad (XX points)
- Flamer
- Sergeant w/ combi-flamer

King_Martha
King_Martha

@JunkTop
Read Dark Imperium and Devastation of Baal to get up to date.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Anyone play this? Thoughts? Worth the price?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@massdebater
what is that character from? ive seen her atleast i hope its a she posted a shit to and i have no idea where its from

TreeEater
TreeEater

@CouchChiller
twins they were

Evilember
Evilember

@VisualMaster
See, this is so much cooler than just having them sit in a thing and nap ominously to try and make them seem cool.

I want a Dreadbro who pranks all the new Scout's and hangs out with the Chapter vets, god dammit.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Poker_Star

looks like a touhou, it's a magical girl indy game series that /jp/ is obsessed with

SniperWish
SniperWish

@SomethingNew
Yes

No

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Who here also preordered Crabby-Crabs Culln and doesn't actually play Red Scorpions?

I just really damn love dreads, and couldn't turn done a leviathan HQ.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Firespawn
Kraken for melee, Kronos for shooting. Make the Haruspexes into Exocrines, they're much better. Add Genestealers, get rid of Rippers.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

So fluffwise why do all leviathans go crazy?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Fuzzy_Logic
I hear overkill is a better start.
neophytes are shit and you should be generally using acolytes or guard.
not diet discount guard.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

All the Deathguard stuff is released now, right?
We might see some different new models soon?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@SniperWish
how many hours did you put into playing it?
was it fun?
(excluding assembly and paint)

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Raving_Cute
Yup I think that's it. Blight haulers were the last thing I can think of that needed a release.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@ZeroReborn

It's more a trend than an "All". The mental strain of melding with the massive leviathan chassis is more intense, plus the reactor shielding isn't as well maintained post-heresy.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@viagrandad

blight haulers
when GW gives only one loadout for a unit that could lorewise be given any combination of heavy weapons, since they only intend to release the model as an easybuild

StonedTime
StonedTime

you're in the fire-caste and this Salamander slaps your pathfinders ass
what do?
Seriously the MOW mod is fucking amazing.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@likme
seriously drop the ripper swarms and the haurospex. i wouldnt recomend warriors either but they're passable if you REALLY like em.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Ignoramus
Alpha and world eaters are the best legions

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@RumChicken
Thanks!

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Crazy_Nice
i honestly do

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Firespawn
they did a lot of nonsense to DG for flimsy reasons, like taking away heldrakes, bikers and havocs because "muh slow army"

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Evil_kitten
The game is pretty boring, Silver Tower was better for similar-ish PvE game.

What's not worth the price is the value, probably the WORST "value" box in recent year. You get what? Cultist Snapfit? 3 snapfit CSM? The shitty one, not even the good looking one from Dark Vengeance.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Evilember
The thing is that Dreadnoughts also burn out their occupant over time. This is less true for boxnaughts, but Contemptors, Redemptors and Leviathans do it quickly. That's why you leave them asleep for long periods.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Firespawn
Primaris Captain

When GW gives a character 0 options because they're releasing a monopose kit.

This is the future ChapterHouse chose for us.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@ZeroReborn
In 40k the human brain cannot take a certain ammount of information without collapsing, Thallax suffer brain death earlier due to all the artificial senses imbued into the brain, Titan princeps become dependant on their machines and they are just controlling a machine spirit as opposed to being infused into it. Leviathans die earlier because of the data input in the sarcophagus is too much and the brain simply dies earlier.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Is the GW site down for anyone else?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Boy_vs_Girl
I dont know user i sorta like this future. It means i don't have to think when building a list. Everything already has their options and i can just take the best choice.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@StonedTime
Resident Evil: 40K edition

Evilember
Evilember

@Playboyize
No.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Fried_Sushi

It's more that Atomantic reactors are a bit leaky, so radiation poison their pilots, whereas the Redemptor straight up has a garbage corner-cutting life support system that won't even let the pilot live to become venerable.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Playboyize
nope

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Methnerd
necrons the experience

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Boy_vs_Girl
When GW gives a character 0 options because they're releasing a monopose kit.
Hey, it's not like they'll go back and retcon all the options off of older characters just because the only current model for said character is monopose with no options, user!
Get it? Because they are! Hahahaha!

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Spamalot
The legion is the primarch, the primarch is legion.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@ZeroReborn
implying GW doesn't want you just picking preset special characters for your HQs

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@VisualMaster
@Evilember
Says its down for maintenance for me. In burgerland if that helps for location.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@ZeroReborn
They excused cutting the options for Autarchs down because they don't want people feeling the need to kitbash, but there's nowhere on the site to buy a regular Autarch

girlDog
girlDog

@Nude_Bikergirl
Still up for me in burgerland.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Nude_Bikergirl
I'm in Virginia, and it's fine for me.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

C&C my list ya unholy bastards please and thank you.

1999/2000 points Adepta Sororitas

++ Battalion Detachment ++

Celestine & Friends (250)

Inquisitor (76)
- Plasma pistol
- Force stave

Canoness (49)
- Blade of Admonition

Battle sisters (71)
- Heavy Flamer
- Flamer

Immolator w/ Flamer (103)

Battle sisters (71)
- Heavy Flamer
- Flamer

Immolator w/ Flamer (103)

Battle sisters (71)
- Heavy Flamer
- Flamer

Immolator w/ Flamer (103)

Battle sisters (144)
- 15 Sisters
- X2 Storm Bolter
- Superior w/ Power axe

Imagifier (40)

Exorcist (135)

Exorcist (135)

++ Outrider Detachment ++

Canoness (66)
- Inferno Pistol
- Eviscerator

Dominion squad (118)
- X4 Meltagun

Immolator w/ Multi-Melta (122)

Dominion squad (118)
- X4 Meltagun

Immolator w/ Multi-Melta (122)

Seraphim (102)
- X2 pairs of Inferno pistols
- Superior w/ Plasma pistol & Power sword

hairygrape
hairygrape

How weebish would I come off if I model my OC Donut Steel Chaos Lord as a tastefully decorated samurai? I'm trying to avoid edgelord levels of autism here and base this small warband off the legends surrounding the Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi swords.

Techpill
Techpill

@StonedTime
What game is that?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Rules question

Let's say I have a Heavy Weapons Squad(leadership 6) standing next to an Inquisitor(leadership 9). The Inquisitor has an ability that lets units within 6" use its leadership.

My enemy uses some sort of ability that gives the Heavy Weapons Squad a -1 penalty on their Leadership but leaves the Inquisitor unaffected, and then deals a casualty to them, so they have to take a Morale test.

The penalty to the leadership only applies to the Heavy Weapons Team, and the HWT gets to use the Inquisitor's leadership instead of their own. That means they can roll at Leadership 9, right?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@hairygrape
Weebmax

Emberburn
Emberburn

@hairygrape
sounds like it'd fit a slaaneshi lord pretty well

Emberfire
Emberfire

@hairygrape
That's legitimately cool. I think SM/CSM need an official weeb chapter.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Methnerd
I dont know user i sorta like this future. It means i don't have to think when building a list. Everything already has their options and i can just take the best choice.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@hairygrape
Well as long as you do it and make it look good i dont really care how weeb it is.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Emberfire
emperors shadows

DeathDog
DeathDog

@hairygrape
Those are some ugly weapons.

That not even look like a Katana, look like a chinese dao.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Carnalpleasure
If i recall correctly they roll for the iquisitors moral but they still get the penalty so they whould roll at leadership 8

TechHater
TechHater

@Need_TLC
implying GW doesn't want you just picking preset special characters for your HQs
implying all the special present HQs didn't get gutted from 99% of successor chapter armies
Worst thing is, you aren't wrong. GW doesn't want you to play anything that isn't Ultramarines (or any of the other faction posterboys).

@Soft_member
Shh user, logic and reason has no purpose in GW-land. Only jewery.

FastChef
FastChef

@VisualMaster
I've seen them before. Are they canon or just made by someone in the studio?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Carnalpleasure
PEMDAS when applying modifiers.
Their Ld should be 8 imo.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@hairygrape
Well there's a literal Japanese space marine chapter so it'd fit in.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Evilember
even mechanicum? i really love the kastellean robots, id love some 50's beepboops to be in my inquisitors warband

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Carnalpleasure

Take Inquisitor’s Ld then take away the penalty.
So Ld 8.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Evil_kitten
Best Sons of Dorn Edition
why did you choose a picture of the Black Templars, and not the Crimson Fists then?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Crazy_Nice
tfw i play both
Life is good

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@lostmypassword
I don't know shit about sisters, but don't exorcists kinda suck now?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@TurtleCat
a dread that can potentially throw out 21 shots all at S5 or better, and can also clean house with a D4 melee attack.

Fug I'm rock hard, I never knew I wanted a Dreadnought Azrael until now.

Methshot
Methshot

@Soft_member
Even better: the Autarch equipped with the wargear described never had a model and would have required kitbashing with Dire Avengers in the first place.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Burnblaze
Might go for it anyway. Just to see if I can avoid max weebism.
@Emberburn
I was thinking of going Slaanesh anyway.
@FastChef
A guest painter made them for a painting catalogue. They're at least officially recognized.
@TalkBomber
I'll do my best!

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Techpill
Men at War Assault Squad - Ultimate Warhammer 40k mod
Only partially finished, but Tau, Loyalist and Traitor Astarte, Blood Pact, Death Guard and pretty much every major Imperial Guard regiment give it plenty of punch.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

what are we devouring today hive mind-senpai?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Evil_kitten
I like to imagine that the white templars are completely unlike their better known sibling chapter and are actually a bunch of really chill, if slightly awkward, friendly dudes. And are perpetually baffled why imperial forces start acting nervous when they hear that the 'templars' are making planetfall.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@FastChef
They're in some of the official how-to-paint space marine books so they're at least existent in the universe.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@kizzmybutt
Expect to get rules for the Glottkin in 40K as well
Never

askme
askme

@SomethingNew
What the fuck?
Was the price always this high or am i remembering incorrectly?
I remember looking at them and saying.
25 usd for a single mini? I think i will get a recast.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Supergrass
Your points are incorrect, they got cheaper in chapter approved. Always take a power sword and grenade launcher in your intercessor squads.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@kizzmybutt

They suck at dealing damage, but are tough.
I think I might switch them out for a couple of Penitent Engines?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@TalkBomber
S-tier
Alpha Legion (for exactly the reasons you listed)
Space Wolves (right or wrong, they get shit done)
Emperors Children (only because style is 90% of everything)
Word Bearers (For valuing truth over everything, I don't agree but they stick to their guns even knowing it will lead to damnation)

A-tier
Imperial fists (only true loyal sons)
Salamanders (for being the last truly noble souls in the galaxy)
Blood angels (this was before they started cutting themselves)
Sons of Horus (Because without Abadabadoo to shit things up, they can be interesting as a faction with kings above gods)

B-tier
Iron Warriors (Fucking incompetent but cynicism give them pity points)
Iron Hands (For being BTFO before we can form an opinion one way or another)
Ultramarines (boring but solid)
White scars (showing up at the last minute, just in time to disappoint all of us)

C-tier
World Eaters (one note personality, obviously constructed around their Chaos god and written post hoc)
Death Guard ( see World Eaters)
Thousand Sons (You may have done nothing wrong, but you still haven't done anything right)
Dark Angels (playing cloak and dagger with yourself so long you don't actually show up for the debate, also homo lust)

D-tier
Raven Guard (for getting your shit pushed in and multiple attempts to get your shit back together but AL keeps pissing in your cereal, so you piss in your own cereal to teach them a lession and they just say. "you sure showed me, man. Enjoy your own piss." Then responding "thank you I will, just leave me alone.")

F-tier
Nightlords (being more spoopy is a terrible theme when your own brothers summon eldrich monstrousities on the reg, take off the batman costume and get a real job.)

Firespawn
Firespawn

Walk Bullgryn or make them ride in transport?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@lostmypassword
The only thing I know about sisters is what complaining anons say about them, and I don't know what of that is legit and what is hyperbole or memes.

FastChef
FastChef

@Firespawn
Put them in a Tallarn chimera, use the Tallarn stratagem to infiltrate it.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Does anyone have the Nid painting guide? I couldn't find it in the MEGAs.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Why do I constantly want to start new armies? I really like my dudes but I see a starter box and my mind wanders. I don't even play my 2nd army very often if at all

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@BinaryMan

Penitent Engines are paper mache but deal a shit load of damage at close range.
Exorcists are tough, but their damage is inconsistent or weak.
Both are ~130 points.
Alternatively, I take an minimum-sized IG battalion.

RumChicken
RumChicken

So i was thinking of Starting T'au to balance out my Shooty Army ration to assault army ratio. Good idea or best idea?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@TreeEater
Dreadnoughts are pretty neat right now.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Burnblaze
Alternatively, I take an minimum-sized IG battalion.
I'd say that's worth it for the CP. Sisters' new stratagems from CA look pretty useful.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@RumChicken
I am thinking that same thing but I want to stop buying new armies

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Sharpcharm
take off the batman costume and get a real job.

This made me chuckle

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@SomethingNew
Yes.

It's not bad for the first few tries, but it lacks a replayability factor. The Eversor is by far the funnest and most useful in game. The Callidus a close second. It's got a nice looking cardboard board and the rules are easy to learn, but there's little feeling of depth to it and you usually win in the normal mode. I think it's worth the price in a modeling standpoint but that's about all the value you'd get from it. It was four formerly exclusve but good models for Assassins with several garbage chaos models.
@askme

I remember them being about thirty dollars. It seems like that's their average for 32 mm based units

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@RumChicken
sure, codex could be a fun fun time

w8t4u
w8t4u

newb here looking for help building a skitarii army as my first army. I plan on buying the starter collection but I want to get to make a 1k army.

Are there any things I should avoid? Anything I should get?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@BunnyJinx
Now that i think about it you are probably right.
If it was 25 i would have gritted my teeth but bought anyway.
instead i bought recast for about 10 bucks

RavySnake
RavySnake

tfw just assembled my first model and it looks like shit

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@RavySnake
Post a pic so we can bully you.

massdebater
massdebater

@RavySnake
Blu-tack twice, glue once

TreeEater
TreeEater

@BinaryMan
this ugly thing

Firespawn
Firespawn

@TreeEater
my first model

eGremlin
eGremlin

I want Blood Angels to be good but it looks like Ultras still top dogs for space marines

FastChef
FastChef

@w8t4u
Vanguard and Rangers are some of the best troops in the game
The half-tank troops are sadly pretty mediocre right now
Ironstrider Ballistarii don't really have a niche when Onagers and Robots exist.
Electropriest and Dragoon models are way to expensive in terms of real-life cash to use freely
Cawl can only be used if you play a specific Forge World tactic
That's what I can think of off the top of my head.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@TreeEater
Looted Stormsurge?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@TreeEater
if it's any consolation you'll paint it pretty well.
t. I'm from the future

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@eGremlin
Only because of Robby
Leave the Lord of Cheese out of things and the difference isn't so great

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@eGremlin
I want x to be good but it looks like y is still best
Delete your stupid post.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@BunnyJinx

I think Ultras play to SM strengths much more.

Making marines good at assault is like putting a V8 in a Pinto.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Soft_member
The Autarch problem made sense because to get all of the parts you'd need to convert almost any of the gear varieties an Autarch can take. Eldar kits have never come with any meaningful degree of 'spare' bits. You'd need to buy 3+ Aspect Warrior kits just to make anything worthwhile, chop up several of the glorious Finecast™ miniatures because all of the meaningful equipment is built into the model, and then figure out a way to get it all onto one mini without looking like complete ass.

GW may intentionally fuck its customers in the ass in terms of kit options and prices, but I think even they figured out no one would be buying that much stuff for a single HQ option that isn't even psykers on jetbikes.

Inmate
Inmate

@happy_sad
Super glue?

Also rough knifework. Take it easy, take it slow.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Soft_member
Something like an Autarch really should have had a small plastic kit made for it

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@happy_sad
Did you damage pieces? Cause Tau kits usually fit together pretty well

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Poker_Star
I didn't realize that the end piece for the gun has a tab on it so it only slots in one way

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Poker_Star
how can it shoot twice potentially? its def a cool looking model, but i dont play marines at all

RavySnake
RavySnake

@CodeBuns
is it normal for a model to give you an erection?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Snarelure
Salvageable with maybe some green stuff to fill in gaps.
Treat it like a learning experience, first assembled model

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@happy_sad
@RavySnake
Next time take it slow and test fit things before applying glue so you know it's going together the right way.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@happy_sad
We all started there. The good news is that you'll get better at it.

Remember to double-check how pieces fit together before applying glue. This is called "dry fitting".

King_Martha
King_Martha

@happy_sad
Always use a sharp blade
Always dryfit first and double check instructions
Use sanding paper
Use plastic glue instead of super glue on plastic models
On other models use gel super glue instead of regular spure glue.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@FastChef
should I bring in other units from the imperiums?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@RumChicken
@AwesomeTucker
@whereismyname
Thanks guys. I was expecting to fuck up something so I'm glad I started with a small guy instead of a Crisis Suit

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Nojokur
would be humorous, I've always thought of the Templars as only a couple steps below Iron Hands in terms of how they treat mortal allies and civillians. In Helsreach for instance they're very dismissive of the guard and at one point Grimauldus picks some dude up by his neck and gives a speech to the room about not taking one step back etc etc, I'm pretty sure he breaks his neck but I haven't read the book in a while.

idontknow
idontknow

@happy_sad
If you manage to fill the gaps it'll look like a cool battle-scarred stealth suit. But listen to what other anons said and you'll improve majorly.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Do any of those mega directories have the latest Black Library short stories?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@happy_sad
Just wait until you try painting it and wanting to kill yourself because of how bad you think it looks. Keep trying and then look back at this little bastard, see how far you've grown.

Flameblow
Flameblow

I dont actually have a picture of my very first model from the front that isnt too bright to actually see detail but this was my very first model I ever painted from behind..

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Nojokur
I really like that. We need more space marine that are just chill dudes.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Evil_kitten

Nope. Its been explicitly stated in the fluff that the IW didnt have what it took to actually finish off the Fists. The two legions were set to totally annihilate each other before Guilliman intervened.

Puts Perturabo in a pretty bad light considering he had literally every advantage in that fight.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@RavySnake
I know that feel, try using normal super glue and it'll make it easy for you to fix later when you get more experienced.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Bidwell
I'm glad I started with a small guy instead of a Crisis Suit
Smarter than me at least.
tfw my first models were a whole terminator squad
assembled them fine
actually really proud of them
go to paint them
fuck it up royally
try to strip the paint with paint thinner like a retard
melt literally all the detail off of them
somehow most of the paint survives though, funny that
paint also survived a 6 month bath in green stuff and subsequent 2 month bath in super clean
wtf
scrap them for now
try to disassemble them for parts later on
the tacky glue I used to make them has somehow mutated and become T10 W20 Sv 2++
fuck them up even more during disassembly
I'm not a smart man.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

brake fluid works for paint on plastic i found.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@StrangeWizard
It also adds some handy warp corruption to that model

viagrandad
viagrandad

@hairygrape
That would require giving a non-human race a decent kit. Seriously, Eldar have an absolutely minuscule bit range because while there are impressive units, everything is exclusive to 'something'.

And it's unfortunate. Despite being one of the most visually unique factions, there is little to no room for model creativity unless you're either fucking loaded or a wizard with greenstuff.

takes2long
takes2long

@GoogleCat
has somehow mutated and become T10 W20 Sv 2++
keked

askme
askme

@GoogleCat
Huh. That might actually be a nice paint scheme. Just do some details in silver and gold or something to break it up.

idontknow
idontknow

@Lord_Tryzalot
kek

FastChef
FastChef

any advice for expanding the primaris in dark imperium out to 1000 pts?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@FastChef
3 Aggressor squads. Because they look cool as fuck

Booteefool
Booteefool

Threadly reminder that Celestine and Greyfax are in lesbians

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@FastChef
More Hellblasters, aggressors are ok, Ancients go really well with hellblasters too. Maybe 5 more intercessors but with the heavy rifles

farquit
farquit

@FastChef
A second Primaris half of Dark Imperium is good. Basically gets you up to a Demi-Company, can run it as 1250 or maybe 1500

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Need_TLC
just getting back into 40k, havent played since 6th, just learning about primaris, but whats the difference between these guys in your picture and terminators?
what are the must have models for space marines? i have a jump pack assault equipped heavy army, and your standard dudes with rhinos and some devestators. i dont have any of those fancy flyers either, what should be the first thing i add to my list aside from the rulebooks?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@CouchChiller
They are worse than Terminators because they can't deepstrike. Pretty tough though and no joke in melee.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Bidwell
@happy_sad
@Snarelure
I did the same thing with the old tyranid start collecting.
I didn’t realise the gargoyle bodies were matching pairs and I stuck them together wrong.

I’m just lucky that you can’t really tell I fucked it up unless you turn them upside down. That and the flying based don’t fit on some.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@CouchChiller
The primaris line is a side-grade to normal marines, often increased durability or specialized weapons but at the cost of tactical flexibility and support. The aggressors in the picture are all about running fast and burning shit down (but they can fire twice if they stand still as well), I'd recommend getting a predator or two as they are very solid stables in most marine armies

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Should I strip this guy and start again? Obv not finished, but a GW worker put those fat stripes of highlight on my helmet when he showed me painting techniques.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Poker_Star
Do you want to strip it because he ruined it or because you want to start fresh to implement his advice

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Poker_Star
nah, just do some clean up and he'll be fine

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Poker_Star
Take your time on those gold/bronze, make sure they;re covered before moving on.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@TalkBomber
Well to me that highlight is far too thick. Just didn't want to be impolite so I said nothing

iluvmen
iluvmen

so why are markerlights and pathfinders shit? Havent played for couple years because the only store in my city got shut down and now operates a multicultural center for refugees.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@New_Cliche
so far i have a predator, a squad of the primaris guys with all plasma looking guns (they just look cool and i want to paint them even if they arent very good) and that primaris chaplain in my cart. i'd like a flyer, everyone that i know has at least 1 flyer and they advised me to get one so i wouldnt be at a disadvantage, which do you recommend? apparently we are playing 2000 point games, and my current army, minus the ones in my cart is only 1200ish i believe so i have some room

TreeEater
TreeEater

@New_Cliche
Predators are garbage. They are too expensive for their relative frailty. 11W @ T7 3+ is way too easy to kill with other long-range weapons.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Poker_Star
Well, the stormraven is a good vehicle on its own but its made even better when you consider its transport capacity (12 dudes and a Dreadnought). The Hellblasters are probably the best primaris unit available but make sure to keep a captain near them for safer overcharging

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@iluvmen
so why are markerlights and pathfinders shit?
ML table is currently meh

the only store in my city got shut down and now operates a multicultural center for refugees
lol

MPmaster
MPmaster

@iluvmen
multicultural center for refugees
Why'd they go DnD only? Thats a shit business decision

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Dreamworx
thanks user, i made my order. i threw in a captain in gravis armor along with that stormraven. i have no idea what that is, but i liked that his torso is bulky, reminds me of those strong guy competition guys who are kinda chubby but throw trees and carry big ol tires around

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Poker_Star
So your Hellblasters have three options - a 24" Assault 2 gun, a 30" Rapid Fire 1 weapon, and a 36" Heavy 1 weapon. The Assault 2 option is the best, never bother with the other two.

The Predator is good because it does long range anti armor, which Primaris are very bad at.

Stormraven's a good flyer.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@TalkBomber
That's it, I've said it before and I'm going to finally do it, I'm making a Chapter based on this picture.

@Methnerd
@Evilember
I'm including this shit too.

Time for some brighthammer.

5mileys
5mileys

@iluvmen
The problem is that the ML table is pretty useless outside of the first result and the final result. Pathfinder themselves aren't that bad for 80 pts but it takes the entire squad to make the rest of your army fire at one unit with bs3+. Also with the new strat in Chapter Approved you can kinda reliably get that many markerlights on one for 1cp and 4 Markerlight shots from one squad.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Need_TLC
They’re evolved centurions

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@King_Martha
It’s a salamander, just make Salamanders.

askme
askme

ok, so ive ordered my new units to paint up, but im curious as to where to pick up the story, i found a book thats about guilliman and his crusade and has some deathguard shennanigans it seems, but i cant seem to find what book has how he came out of stasis, and about cawl and his primaris marines. also, i hear cypher was responsible for bringing back guilliman?
if anyone could tell me a book title, or point me in the direction id be much obliged

SniperGod
SniperGod

@askme
Gathering Storm 3 deals with the whole resurrection thing.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Emberfire
Well I don't know about shooting twice, but it gets 12 assault cannon shots, 3 heavy bolter shots, 1 hunter killer missile, and then 2d6 flamer shots if all weapons are in range. So it gets between 18-28 shots total, which makes it the killiest dread that I've heard of.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@SniperGod
Gathering Storm 3
ahh, its a rulebook/game suppliment. i was looking at the novels. thanks user

King_Martha
King_Martha

@BunnyJinx
You're welcome user.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@King_Martha
its not just salamders, its how the salamanders be.
Salas are like, local village eldars or carpenters or shit in their spare time and live with normal people

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

is the mega link dead for anyone else?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@eGremlin
in their spare time
How is this a thing? Aren't they constantly fighting the Emperor's enemies?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@GoogleCat
Was loading, now's okay.

Import them to your drive.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Poker_Star
ty

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Dreamworx
no, theres always a force on their home planet/base of operations. they gotta go back to repair/rearm sometimes

FastChef
FastChef

@Emberfire
And since Guilliman has called for making of reinforcement companies theres probably plenty of Marines just sitting around now. Also imagine being a Primaris Salamander waking up years later and your family is fucking dead and shit.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Dreamworx
Space Marine chapters are pretty much free to pursue what war they want. Especially first founding ones who don't have to prove themselves constantly.
Salamanders are pretty defensive and only leave their home sector to partake in major conflicts or find Vulkan's relics.
And even then not the whole chapter is always engaged.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Fried_Sushi
Since almost all Inquisitors can't really make head nor tail of what the Mechanicum is doing most of the time the =][= would probably have to make nice or promise the Admech loot if he didn't already do them a favour to get Kastelans rather than just a Maniple of cheapo Skitarii. Not impossible by any means, since there are whole Ordos dealing with the Mech and you could always have Stygies Xenarite robots working with the Ordo Xenos, Agripinaan anti-warp troops working with the Malleus or Martian Prefecture Magisterium enforcers working with the Hereticus.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Fried_Sushi
It might be best to bring a Mech HQ with them and say he's the Inquisitor's buddy

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@PurpleCharger
I need to make an Entire Chapter army at some point and time. Sounds like it would be fun.

girlDog
girlDog

@PurpleCharger
Honestly it would make more sense of Space Marine chapters to set up a home base in a sector and spend the vast majority of their time living there and defending the closest systems rather than flying around the galaxy fighting random battles.

idontknow
idontknow

@Crazy_Nice
Keep in mind this will come to roughly 1200 marines once you add in all the specialists and such who aren't assigned to a standard company position.

@girlDog
Most of them do this - a big chunk of Marines had their chapter homeworlds specifically placed close to the Eye of Terror to handle any Chaos emergences. Course most of them got eaten by the Cicatrix Maledictum, but...

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Crazy_Nice
That would be around 1000 minis, user

@girlDog
Not all chapters have the luxury of a home planet/system though, many are fleet-based

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Crazy_Nice
You're in for one hell of a ride. It'll be monumentally impressive if you can pull it off, but this is not a challenge for the faint of heart (or lacking in cash)
1000+ marines of various types
100 Rhinos
at least 10 dreads, probably more
assorted armored support such as LRs.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Burnblaze
That would be around 1000 minis, user
Yes And?
@idontknow
Keep in mind this will come to roughly 1200 marines once you add in all the specialists and such who aren't assigned to a standard company position.
I play Blood Angels, biggest problem i would see having myself having is how many Death Company do i put into this army? Would also have to make it so i can have plenty of special weapons Where each squad can have one of each weapon and each Devastator squad can have 4 of each weapon but as i said would be fun. This would be of course a life time effort. also need 30 Sanguinary Guard also.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Stark_Naked
Wew lad. The Rhinos alone would set you back over 3500 bucks

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Lost all my warhammer stuff along with my house in the fires

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@SomethingNew
Cause?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Deadlyinx
Effect?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Stark_Naked
Really, really BIG
If anything it seems really, really small considering the scale of the threats they're up againt. The guys in that pic managed to beat back an entire Tyranid Hive Fleet by themselves?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@SomethingNew
My condolences, user.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Snarelure
The guys in that pic managed to beat back an entire Tyranid Hive Fleet by themselves?
No, there were a few dozen Imperial Guard regiments, a Titan Legion, a large portion of a Segmentum space fleet, and Ultramar's large, well equipped, and disciplined PDF.

WebTool
WebTool

@SomethingNew
Burn commiefornia, BURN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRgPj35FZS4

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Starting to think about a second army to start to somewhat change up my pace of painting and was thinking of Grey Knights. How are they this edition?

I'm working on a list as a shopping list for what models to get and I wanted to know if paladins are worth the high cost and if dreadknights are necessary? I really hate the model and the only way I could think of doing a suitable proxy would be to take something like a leviathan and mount a dreadknights melee weapon on a CCW arm in the same manner as the blood angels librarian dreadnoughts spear.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@SomethingNew
At least you're still alive

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@CodeBuns
What do you even field this as at that point

There is no ork model that will perform even a tenth as radical as that looks

King_Martha
King_Martha

@TalkBomber
S-Tier
Dark Angels: top aesthetics. Robes over armor are nice, color scheme is broken up nicely with the wings. I like the lore too, memes aside.
Thousand Sons: Nice lore, best primarch, cool design and color scheme.
A-Tier
White Scars: Motorcycle Mongolians are sick. Needs more support. Underrated primarch. Color scheme's not bad.
Word Bearers: underapreciated. Space ISIS is neat. Lorgar was a cool guy. Color scheme's alright.
B-Tier
Salamanders: Cool guys all around. Not huge on their scheme, nor that all units are the same colors.
Blood Angels: Same deal as Salamanders. Color scheme is too harsh. Like everything else about them.
Imperial Fists: I hate yellow, but have a huge hard-on for siege defense.
Death Guard: Like Nurgle, these guys are alright.
Black Legion: GOAT scheme, shit leader.
C-Tier
Alpha Legion: Memes. Good scheme, though.
Emperor's Childrem: I kind of like Lucius the Canadian, but that's it.
World Eaters: One-dimensional.
Iron Hands: Whatever.
Iron Warriors: Too devoid of personality. Look cool, though.
Raven Guard: I often forget these guys exist.
Space Wolves: COULD be good, if they focused more on the viking thing and maybe used a few different animals. As it stands, obnoxious legion.
D-Tier
Ultramarines: Completely boring, from their scheme to their lore. Minotaurs do space romans better.
Night Lords: Supposed to be the spooky guys, but the goofy as bat wing heads and ugly lightning is just silly.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Stark_Naked
Would be a hell of an Apocalypse battle. How many points would that lot come out to? Add in a couple Thunderhawks and Superheavy Tanks as Chapter relics so they're not carved apart piecemeal if your opponent brings the big guns, too. A Tac Marine is what, 13 points? Even if your opponent decided to match your Rhino chassis tac squad spam you'd be fighting something on the order of eighteen hundred Skitarii or three Guard regiments and a hundred-something tanks. Do want.

@RavySnake

Seems like the Ultramarines didn't do much of the work, then. Guess they can command things with Marine tactical genius. How's that meant to work, anyway? I don't recall any of the implants making them any smarter than baseline humans, they should mostly be worse than trained generals at dealing with massive campaigns since they're normally handling single Companies and such.

Evilember
Evilember

@King_Martha
Minotaurs are space Spartans though

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Evilember
Close enough, they're still better.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Skullbone
The tactical flexibility and strike capability afforded to a Space Marine chapter is something that just plain exists outside the rigid structure of the Imperial Guard.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Skullbone
The amount of points mostly comes out down to if you are bringing special and heavy weapons for each squad and how many heavy weapons you bring on the devastators. Are you bringing at least 3 of each of the anti-air option rhinos also? Brings some vindicators. So most of your points are in your armour support. Someone should do the math. Its 4 am i should be asleep and not be making decisions about making an entire chapter worth of marines.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Skullbone
How many Hormagaunts could I field against that army? I'd do that

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Skullbone
Each tac squad+rhino is going to be a little over 200 base, maybe 230 after wargear. So if you call it 250*100=25k that should cover the extra equipment for the devs and the captains/chaplains/librarians. Then add on the dreads and other armour support.

girlDog
girlDog

@New_Cliche
@eGremlin
I mean the first linked post.

Though I probably am going to just end up with the Salamanders.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Skullbone
Marines get eidetic memory but that's pretty much all of it as for mental enhancements

Evilember
Evilember

Im planning on making a primaris raptors army, and want to run Lias Issodon. So I need up to 3 squads of some flavour of manlet to drop with him. What should I drop, and wielding what weapons?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

You are always so helpful to a poor lost user.

Would anybody kindly point me in the direction as to where I can read the new Gaunts Ghosts or the Devastation of Baal?

tfw no payday til after Christmas

happy_sad
happy_sad

@BlogWobbles
Guard has slightly more diverse toys in all the different branches, but yeah, whatever. Still, what do you use them for against a Tyranid invasion? You need to deploy a couple squads at least to kill some of the synapse creatures you'd logically want to assassinate, they'll slice up anything smaller happily. This seems like the kind of situation you would just want a bigger sledgehammer instead of surgical strike troops against an enemy with no attackable infrastructure requirements aside from massive ships with multiple redundancies.

What my question was is "why are Space Marines ever given strategic command when they're not trained for it?". Guilliman yes, maybe Calgar or Dante from sheer experience and perfect memory but IIRC marines are no more intelligent than the baseline humans they came from. A Chapter Master would be good at company level tactics, but he'd want to use all that "tactical flexibility" that his Guard troops don't have. An experienced Guard general would probably be a better strategic commander.

@Stark_Naked
@VisualMaster

So call it what, 30k-32k points depending on how many toys and Superheavy gunships and stuff you want to back your endless Rhino and Predator columns with. Blood Angels would want DC and some Stormravens as well, plus Sanguinary Guard, so maybe 34k.

You're fighting an entire Titan maniple plus a 14k Admech escort if you want to go full nonsense, but the superior method would probably be rank upon rank of dakka infantry dug in behind Aegis lines and bastions. 70k Apoc Siege best Siege. It's so big you could just build a big U shape out of tables and have the defenders in the middle of a huge fortress.

Good thing there aren't vehicle wrecks in 8e, or it'd never get anywhere.

@BunnyJinx

If you want literally nothing but 5pt stock horms you could fit nearly seven thousand, if you wanted 4k of embedded Synapse dudes to keep them zerging on then 6000. I have no idea if that's enough synapse, but I'm thinking no.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Which space marines chapter is most badass?

massdebater
massdebater

Whats a new way to do Slaanesh, /40kg/? I've decided my Emperor's Children warband is a cavalcade of artists who don't so much as fight battles as much as they use it as a canvas. For instance, they might secretly aid their enemies if they believed it was dramatically appropriate, turn on their own if they thought they were about to break the 'scene' they were setting and would gladly die en masse to give a battle sufficient amounts of 'hopelessness' before a triumphant counter attack.

While this is all well and good though, I'm finding some natural limitations with Slaanesh. I mean, being a god of beauty, art, love, pain, and pleasure is good and all, but the monotone of the chaos gods is kind of cramping on their style. I mean if you want to make art to provoke change, doesn't that make you a Tzeenchian? If you want to cause massive amounts of fear and despair isn't that more nurgle-y, if you wanted to fight the perfect battle, isn't that more Khornate? Instead, all Slaanesh gets in canon is sort of pleasure for pleasures sake which is fine but...I can't help but want more, you know?

Am I stupid and overthinking this? Do you guys have any cool ways of running or writing Slaanesh? Does the fact you're aiming to do something beautifully or artistically override any other intentions and make it Slaaneshi? Do the 40k writers not really put that much thought into this kind of thing?

idontknow
idontknow

@cum2soon
White scars because I like them.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@King_Martha
Black Legion: GOAT scheme, shit leader.

Meme faggot confirmed. Posts disgarded/

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@cum2soon
My vote is on the good old Crimson Fists

Methshot
Methshot

@happy_sad
Seven thousand Hormagaunts

Evilember
Evilember

@massdebater
I dig it. I actually did something similar with one of my RPG characters, a "dramatic historian" in the literal sense where he tries to make history suitably dramatic.

I think it suits a Slaanesh warband. I'd say you'd want to get some Harlie bits and get a bit of a mask theme going on to suit all the role switching.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Methshot
I've just realised that game is big enough for you to bring a pack of Tervigons behind LoS blocking Bastions (presumably modelled as spawning pools or hives or something) and maxed Termagant broods at the back, so you could possibly spawn some more while you're Synapsing the Horm lines screening in front of the alternating Bastion with Tervigon behind/open firing platform with 30 Gants/Bastion with Tervigon behind pattern.

That presumes the Marines come to you because 12" guns, but I think we were talking about Blood Angels so that shouldn't be a problem.

Snarelure
Snarelure

My friend's Wolfen / Thunder Wolf packed Space Wolf army has been momentarily retired until the new book drops. He claims it's unbalanced and unfun for his army to face vanilla marines. Personally I think he's a hypocrite after having 2+ editions of roflstomp but he's adamant there's no point to playing.

Anyone else hearing a lot of this?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Snarelure
I kind of agree, I’ve got codex armies and index armies and I’ve basically shelfed the index armies until their codex.

It’s so much fun with all the stratagems and tactics the codex gives you.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Dreadnought question. Should I go with Fist+Gun or Gun+Gun (Mortis) setup?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@CodeBuns

Anons pls

Will venerate the God-Emperor in return.

takes2long
takes2long

What are some juicy Chaos Marine/Daemon units?

I'm trying to convince my friend to buy the Nurgle side of Dark Imperium from me. He's been on the edge of building a Chaos army for a while; this might be the beginning of it. He likes monstrous things (he plays nids currently) like Helbrutes and Heldrakes.

idontknow
idontknow

Is Rhino kind of a mandatory option for Troops, or can I just leave them on-foot if I'm going to make them just hold objectives?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@massdebater
You are hot overthinking this. As depicted from early days, Slaneshi si a kind of selfish prideful dick, so you kinda make art in a form of onanism to pleasure none more than yourself.

The perfect battle thing si kinda really EC style, Khorne is about rage and slaughter, no pleasure in getting skulls. Is more something like “i want to enjoy their faces and taste their despair while they realize i outperformed them with my perfect skill and strategy, so their l’asta tought before death will be about how much i ma superior”

Also, Slaanesh is the tempting one, wanting to se you bending the knee to him/her.

Evilember
Evilember

@Crazy_Nice
fist and gun

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@takes2long
Death Guard is generally in a well spot now.
Both Heldrake and Helbrute are great now, melee helbrute got quite a buff in the chapter approved too.
Maulerfiend is pretty gud too.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@TalkBomber
Drakes, brutes, and fiends all seem a little high on the points too me. Like the heldrake has similar cost to a winged hive tyrant, but has less attacks and less AP, among other things. Sure the drake is faster, but the tyrant can just deepstrike.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@ZeroReborn
You're going to suck hard against vehicles spam and struggle against long range army. Ready yourself to be tabled against this kind of army
Plus, the high number of unit will make hard for you to start first, and this mean that the hellblaster are going to disappear turn one.
You can try to bring a Repulsor so you can embark something inside and lower a little the unit count but it's not cheap in point.

Most importantly, you need to update the repositories of your BattleScribe, since you're using the old point cost and paying more for less.
For instance, the inceptor you're paying 60ppm are now 45ppm, while the plasma variants are now 59ppm.

But everything is pointless if you don't split your army in two detachment, because the battalion allow you to field 3 elite choice and you got 5, so your army is illegal by far.
You need to move one hq choice and three elite in a vanguard detachment

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Thoughts on the Wraithknight in 8th?

Im actully thinking about getting one that its not massively broken.

takes2long
takes2long

@TalkBomber
I think it looks pretty cool

Methnerd
Methnerd

@idontknow
Grab and Immoaltor or Repressor

Oh you mean marines... Sorry for your lost

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Emberburn
Blood Angels
If you want some specific dreads
Iron Hands
If you want the fluff to field shit ton of tanks.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@likme
no genestealers
no broodlords
no exocrine
no tyrannofex
no hive guards
no neurothropes
no dakkafexes (venom cannons=/=dakkafex)
no trygon tunnel+stealer/devilgaunt bomb

I mean, I'm sure its a fun list to run if you're looking for a casual game, but if you want advice on how to optimize this list:
Drop all the haruspexes, they're terrible, and instead replace them with a couple units from this list.
Also, whats your hive fleet?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Burnblaze
Freebooter best non-klan then

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@CodeBuns
@Soft_member
Trips require it. Behold, the Devastation of Baal

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@King_Martha
Use plastic glue instead of super glue on plastic models
No, wrong.
Always use super glue. If you glue something wrong, just put it in the freezer and snap it off. It breaks the superglue bond.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@happy_sad
Learn from it. We all started somewhere.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@TalkBomber

S-tier

Emperor’s Children ( pre heresy legion story is the best, post hh still make some sense devoting to their own fucking pleasure)

Blood Angels ( Sanguinius, super cool Morituri, also space vampires do not sparkle but rip heads off and drink your blood)

Night Lords (don’t give a fuck about anything, plus Batman badass primarch)

Thousand Sons ( cool design, Magnus the nerd did nothing wrong)

A-tier

Raven Guard (underrated lore, own primarch disgusted by his sons, still cool warfare style)

White Scars ( between a jump pack and a bike why the fuck you choose a bike? Kind of intresting old lore)

World Beares (honorable mention to fucking it up overall, Lorgar is a complete failure of a “super” human being, but the best at being a failure)

B tier
World Eaters ( Angron has kinda uninteresting one sided personality, but he doesn’t bend to space puppies and smurfs, needs respect for this)

Death Guard ( Mortarion is complete shit, zero balls, post hh the legion becomes better mostly thanks to burgle)

Salamanders ( flaming niggas are no joke, but the relic thing makes them look like tards)

Dark Angels (the old lore was very good, now they look stupid just like their faggot primarch. By the other side, Cypher is godlike)

C tier

Sons of Horus (pre heresy may be B, now having some irritating plot armor with failAbbadon being Justasplannedon, then failAbbadon again...bullshit)

Alpha Legion ( stealthy thing is good, but now just meme thing...booooring)

Iron Warriors (deamonforge thing is cool, Perturabo is almost stupid like Dorne, but hey, he tricked him so just almost. Irrelevant)

Imperial Fist ( falling in Perturabo trap is prolly the most idiotic thing in all wh lore. Would be shit tier if they hadn’t Templars)

shit tier

Iron Hands (best thing they do is their primarch dieing to Fulgrim)

Space Wolves ( put “wolf”in every fucking thing instead of expanding the Viking part makes this one of the dumbest legions.puppies

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Fuzzy_Logic

user I love your face.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Page 10
Need a new thread soon

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Anyone wanna share the latest Custodes advent short story?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Carnalpleasure
Or drop them.
With plastic glue a part will break. While with super glue it will snap at the glued area

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Crazy_Nice
it's not worth it.

You'll never get even 20% of them onto a table at the same time, it will cost a shitload of money, time & painting energy.

You're better off doing a 'connected' group of armies that you build fluff for.
Siege marines
drop-pod marines
hold the line guard
sisters & inquisitor

and then some kind of enemy forces, like having both eldar types, or a couple of different ork clans, or enemy chaos (chaos marines & cultists)

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@TalkBomber
S-tier
Space Wolves (original unlike the rest, only ones who actually deserve separate codex)
Iron Hands (flesh is weak)
Thousand Sons (psykers and rubricks? count me in)
A-tier
Whie Scars (biker are always awesome)
D-tier
Gay Angels (we are shooty marines, yaaay. more bland than toilet marines. half of them are white scars wannabies)
Ultrasmurfs (no comments)
Rest of them.

DeathDog
DeathDog

/tg/thread/56809843#p56809843
/tg/thread/56809843#p56809843

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Garbage Can Lid
Welcome to the fold, brother.
First off, realize that GKs are the "codex army thats worse than index armies".
We are pretty terrible competetively.
However, IMO its not as big a deal as many people make it out to be, and GKs can be played semicompetetively if you know what you're doing.
Paladins are a staple of my list, mainly because they're tough as nails, and make a great threat for my opponents to deal with.
I hate dreadknights as well, so I dont play them. The GM dreadknight is, of course, really good, but not necessary imo. I played all of 7th without dreadknights and actually did pretty well(7th ed GKs were essentially Codex:Dreadknights+Librarians).
In 8th, I find the dreadknight even less necessary, since VenDreadnoughts fill a similiar role, but fill holes in GK lists that dreadknights cant (ranged antitank).
Also, if you're looking for a dreadknight equivalent, take a look at the forgeworld GK dreadnaught. Comes with the same weapons as a knight, less wounds, less movement and no invuln, but is slightly cheaper, hits on 2s instead of 3s, has a 6+++ and doesnt get worse as it loses wounds

convert leviathan dreadnought as a counts as dreadknight
FUGGG. I've always wanted to buy a Levaithan, but GKs never had access to them.
I cant believe I never thought of converting one for "counts as"..

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@King_Martha
DA and TS up there
SW doooown there

good taste

Inmate
Inmate

@Garbage Can Lid
Also, whats your hive fleet?

Haven't decided on one yet. Recommend one to me.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Inmate
Behemoth if you spam deepstrikers
Kraken if you run melee ground swarms for speed
Leviathan if you spam lots of tough synapse creatures nidzilla style
Kronos if you go for a gunline with lots of shooty bugs
Gorgon if you want a buff to your melee power (even though I think kraken is better for melee, since you reach combat quicker)
Hydra for huge swarms, but IMO both gorgon and kraken are better for that
Jormungandr for increased durability

I run Jormungandr because I think its the most fun trait, and because I've been dreaming of the day when I get to.have 2+ armor monsters. You sacrifice the speed and offensive power that other hive fleets provide (kraken/kronos), but in exchange you're capable of a better "all rounder" approach, since Jorm buffs both your shooty and choppy units.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

tyranid maleceptor or toxicrene?

farquit
farquit

@RumChicken
That doesn't give him Elites since Exocrine are heavy. Hive Guard or Venomthropes work.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@TalkBomber
Sword and Board all day errday.

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