Worries in Reading

is that zyzz at the left?

>reading for plot

Surely this is covert bait?

dont let the plebs know about the book

u bully

No dude, its a sign that some serious shit is about to go down with only 20 pages left.

>read the metamorphosis
>realize the entire story wasn't about Gregor but Grete
The ending made so much sense when I put it this way.

This happened to me with The Castle

is that a good thing for a book?

Is this a commonly held belief? I remember some nerd was trying to question me when I said that I thought short stories existed as a better, and more enjoyable form of storytelling (read: purely the plot is better) and then when I said I enjoyed novels more he started saying, "But I thought you said short stories were better user?" very condescendingly. I told him that I read books for things that exist in the writing beyond the plot.

it is a very commonly held belief for lit fic

There's nothing wrong with it. It's just not Veeky Forums. Pure entertainment.

It can be both Veeky Forums and entertaining though. You can find entertainment in anything if you try.

There's no reason to.

Maurice Blanchot claimed the final sentence was the most unsettling of the entire work.

>not deconstruction and analyzing what the cultural, ideological, and symbolic implications of the plot are for readers

lol

that would be not reading for plot, you ass.

There is a reason. It's a good feeling to be entertaining and if you love what you're reading then you feel good reading. Good feelings from reading are far better than no feelings from reading or reading as though its work.

There's no reason to combine them.

Setting "good feelings" as an ideal is what demeans the good stuff.

Entertained* I also want to point out that I'm not advocating reading for plot. I'm just saying that I go into a book with a positive view and usually leave rewarded for it.

>reading the The Death of Ivan Ilyich
>first 2/3s are pretty boring
>mfw I read the last couple of chapters

There is a reason to combine them. I feel good when I am able to enjoy a book and if the book is good literature then it usually has a pay off and something I can take from it. So not only do I enjoy the book but as I said in another post I am rewarded for reading it. Good feelings isn't an ideal, I never said it was. I am just saying that enjoying the work and reading because you love to read and really getting into the book is much better than just reading it because you think reading makes you smart or knowledgeable.

Unless you're talking about reading for school, hopefully you already have a positive attitude reading in general, to be a Veeky Forumserarian.

The best feelings come after doing worthwhile activities that are difficult.

it's finding a Veeky Forums reason to read for plot

Reading Don Quixote just for the subversion of the typical chivalry story plot is worth it

Difficult can be entertaining and fun if you see it as a challenge and something to be overcome instead of something to be confronted.

How very National Enquirer of you.

that is literally not reading for plot you dunce.
and there is nothing wrong with reading for plot when the work demands it, like DQ.

youtube.com/watch?v=2r3Xs9sBEVg

The plot of your logic is rather obvious, but childish.

>literally
>dunce
>"well it's okay in the right situation"

son you been DROPPED

Childish isn't necessarily wrong in the context of learning. You're a child in certain fields to people who have advanced knowledge in those fields. In literature I am still child. I'm young and proud to try.

what the fuck are you talking about?
reading a book (yes, it's a book you're reading when you're reading the plot of the _book_) for philosophical reasons is not "reading for plot".

The plot of your life is that of a champion, Mr Gump.

I feel like reading any great work of literature for purely the plot from an entertainment perspective will leave you dissatisfied. When reading from a literary perspective, you observe the intricacies of the work and how they contribute to the development as a whole. There are books, short stories, and movies all created for pure entertainment- I just don't see novels as being in that realm for the most part.

There is, also, the interesting aspect of the nature in the relationship of a newly read work of literature to the entire world of literature. The medium, as a whole, is of a unique artistic community.

That's getting into the field of analysis. Reading for plot would be only caring about what happens next with no insight or analysis of what you're reading at all. Someone who reads for plot wouldn't even realise the subversion of the genre or whatnot.

>everything get resolved in one scene

is op referring to infinite jest?