So a friend recently told me about NoFap, a movement i have never heard about before...

So a friend recently told me about NoFap, a movement i have never heard about before. They claim that ejaculation results in decreased testosterone. Any med/bio person that could say if this is true?

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23707935
chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html?zx=5c392185e96536fa
chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation
livescience.com/32445-why-do-guys-get-sleepy-after-sex.html
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16095799
youtube.com/watch?v=99RGE4OEqlg
youtube.com/watch?v=fLsEpSpmnBc
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

It's meme science

This entire movement started back in like 2008 when some MMA fighter, I think it was GSP, said he doesn't have sex for 2-3 months before a fight because he believes it makes him weaker.

Then multiple fake troll posts started on bb misc, then Veeky Forums, and it's still going on.

There is no feedback loop that associates ejaculating and halting testosterone production, no basis, no evolutionary mechanism would promote the least amount of testosterone with dudes that either bang excessive amounts of sluts or masturbates excessively, and not ejaculating doesn't make testosterone levels peak- it just hightens arousal, probably significantly lower your standards, and can actually be detrimental to your health if you don't empty your sacs periodically

You're wasting your life. Get a girl or do something productive.

>probably significantly

I can't go a day without ejaculating and I often have to ejaculate up to two to three times a day.
Why?
When I was younger I strangulated one of my balls and it still aches now (especially after my balls have refilled).

It's a meme. Having an orgasm actually make your testosterone levels go up. For a little while only though.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23707935

Sexual satiety was associated with decreased AR and T expression in the lateral septal nucleus (LS), medial amygdala (MeA), medial preoptic area (mPOA) and ventromedial hypothalamic nucleus (VMH). Males exposed to receptive females showed an increase in AR and T expression in the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BNST), LS, MeA and VMH. Serum testosterone levels remained unchanged after 24h in males exposed to receptive females or males mated to satiety. These data suggest a relationship between sexual activity and a decrease in AR and T expression in specific brain areas, and a relationship between sexual motivation and increased AR and T expression in other brain areas, independently of testosterone levels.

there are other studies like this on rats and such. so as far as i can tell, there is an effect, at least in the brain, but there is unlikely an effect on free testosterone or serum testosterone, which intuitively makes sense, as it would be counterproductive to reduce bioavailable testosterone/androgens after having sex. whether the effects of lessened androgen receptors in the brain go beyond making you less horny, idk. i personally feel better on nofap, but that's just my opinion.

it fucks up the dopamine levels in your brain...over a period of time of regular frequent fapping, your brain neural pathways changes and you get people who are victims of instant gratification. These are weak willed pleasure addicted people who turn out to be not successful in theor lives relative to their IQ/ability. Also, arousal can make you wonky for sometime....so dont fap before exams

This.

I'm this () user and despite having a very high IQ and Asperger's gifted fact based memory, I can't actually focus enough to use either as I'm constantly seeking any form of instant gratification, from video games to masturbation.

How do I solve this?

dont touch your dick. period
but seriously, for me, the fact that fapping makes me behave like an adhd patient, prevents me from engaging

So to conclude, there are no non-anecdotal proofs of it negatively affecting your endocrine activity?

Good lord, the amount of pseudoscience in this thread is just painful.

People participate in nofap because it forces them to interact with women. The rule of nofap is that you can only cum via a woman. Then you're freed from the challenge.

Finaly

Wow, why didn't I ever think of that? I'd stop fapping if I knew it's as easy and getting a woman.

>no one ever told me the point was to get laid
>I thought it was a test of impulse control

fapping decreases your overall seamen level in your body. This is what makes men superior to women because semen naturally increaes your intelligence level. If you go nofap your brain function will gradually increase overtime untill you are so smart the only thing you can do is brag about it and youe high IQ score. Alternativly studies have shown that injesting large amounts of semen orally can be a suitable replacement for the decrease caused by masterbation. This is the main reason why all of the famous scientists like Bill nye and tyson are such massive faggots

become depressed

the point of absolutely everything is to get laid

This guy knows what's up

>t. 4.0 gpa alpha with optimum brain-semen levels

This nofap thing is weird as fuck.

I swear to God that I didn't believe in it. But I still notice myself being really lethargic the first three to four days after I fap (I fap maybe once every two weeks). I don't know if it's just placebo but I am super focused up until that day and then super scatter minded just right afters.

I searched for papers but I couldn't find anything relevant.

Also I asked my brother and he doesn't experience the same thing.

It's all just pseudoscientific retards pushing their agenda without any actual studies supporting it.

there are no real papers on it, also testosterone is overrated as fuck by broscientists tbqh.

In fact testosterone plays a minor role (unless you get juice that amps it up to 10 times average human concentration or even more) in hypertrophy when compared to time under tension, metabolic stress and muscular damage.
This misunderstanding from gymbros (who are usually more concerned about how to fuck more grils than about how the world and in particular their bodies work) has led to hype testosterone as the ultimate hormone that will also go your libido through the roof and make you a sexual machine or something.

It was acrually mohammed ali who said that but some MMA tard probably copied him

Fuck it. I'm gonna try. I fap daily, and I just assumed I was chronically lazy.

>I'm this () user and despite having a very high IQ and Asperger's gifted fact based memory
>I have a very high IQ
'I think I am smart despite not accomplishing shit or knowing anything
>Asperger's gifted fact based memory
I memorize every post I read on /pol/

kill yourself

I've seen studies showing damage to the prefrontal cortex due to excessive porn use. Testosterone iirc peaks at about 7 days of no fapping but then steadily drops.

Ghengas Khan had low test? Get the fuck out of here

People's bodies all differ. The main issue is when you get into a habit of porn = dopamine rush. Having regular orgasms is good for your health generally, and masturbation is a healthy way to keep your sex drive in check. Just like anything it's about moderation and how you do it.

I've tried nofap and the urges usually make me do stupid shit just because I'm horny and although I'm more sensitive, in general, it makes sex for me worse because I'm so focused on cumming.

I think it's a good exercise to see how much you need to jerk off or to break out of your habit. For me I learned that I should use jerking off as a way to relax or clear my head rather than a thing I just do every day.

Try masturbating as a part of your daily routine when you wake up. Try jerking off without porn. I've been doing this and it really helps me get shit done with the rest of the day.

Old fag here. If this bullshit were true I'd be a wasted bag of crap by now (I'm not). It's pure puritanical black ops that depends on ignorance and shame. Ignore it and enjoy having a weiner.

Pretty sure the tard was Stallone, it was implied in Rocky. Placebo effect it valid, if you think no fap makes you a better man is just might but beware of consequences. It could also turn you into a permanently semi erect knob.

>Testosterone iirc peaks at about 7 days
Infographic-tier knowledge mate. This comes from a shoddy fucking chinese study that had no control group and whose samples included the elderly, pre-adolescents, and prime youth young men.

>I'd be a wasted bag of crap by now (I'm not).

>Old fag
>Posts on Veeky Forums
>Pro-masturbation
>Thinks he's not a wasted bag of crap

>They claim that ejaculation results in decreased testosterone.
Do you think of men who fuck really often due to high libido and the possibility as having low testosterone levels?

high schooler detected

>They claim that ejaculation results in decreased testosterone. Any med/bio person that could say if this is true?
It isn't true. Fapping does not negatively affect testosterone at all
>This entire movement started back in like 2008 when some MMA fighter, I think it was GSP, said he doesn't have sex for 2-3 months before a fight because he believes it makes him weaker.
and first link user. It started earlier than that
>It fucks up the dopamine levels in your brain...over a period of time of regular frequent fapping
No it does not.
Not this.
>How do I solve this?
By not falling for pseudoscientific memes
>dont touch your dick. period
There is nothing wrong with doing just that
Yes
>Good lord, the amount of pseudoscience in this thread is just painful.
Pic and links related. No fap is the only pseudoscience in this thread
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html?zx=5c392185e96536fa
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation
And definitely this

Relaxed activity and especially sleepiness after masturbation/sex has a perfectly scientific non meme basis. Masturbation and also sex before sleep is quite relaxing, and there is science behind why both make you sleepy, and you'd opt to do them before bed. There is no need to fall for memes and demonize biology.
>livescience.com/32445-why-do-guys-get-sleepy-after-sex.html

>tfw fapped at least 10 times today
>same with the day before
>and the day before that

i-i-is the damage irreversible ?

>i-i-is the damage irreversible ?
Unless you've incurred an actual medical problem as a result or have harmfully deathgripped, there is no damage. Your fap habits are merely indicative of a high libido/high testosterone

Fapping alone doesn't mess you up. However, I've seen studies saying extended exposure to porn can mess with your brain.

i used to fap a few times a day, the last 6 months ive been mega depressed and fapping 10ish times a day

probably relataed to an addictive personality