Biology is ea-

being aquatic basically means you can never discover fire thus never becoming a relevant

because of oppression

then explain to me the evolutionary novelty, oh master of knowledge

Octopus, Squids & Nautilus are very intelligent.

Many have larger Brain than the average those Biology major who failed to get into medical school.

Octopus one day could evolve into something smarter than us here on Veeky Forums.

squids and nautilus are dumbasses

hey retard, how is there anything to memorize without researchers doing hard science?
i really do feel sorry for you sad sacks with an AP-bio tier understanding of life sciences
rote memorize this

that picture reminded me of this, sorry its unrelated

youtube.com/watch?v=BorQ_ULcvss

>octopuses

posting in a brainlet thread~

Sociology is borderline pseudoscience, mixing it up with biology doesn't help your case. It also suggests you can't critically analyze things and spot the obvious flaws in UPDT2220.jpg

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus#Etymology_and_pluralization

Tentacles and tentacle-like structures Are some of the simplest examples of appendages organisms use to interact with their environment. It is a pre-cambrian structure found on some of the most basic multi-cellular life on earth: hydra, jellyfish. They aren't "mysterious"

>I've only ever taken freshman Bio

It shows

sociology is just a sub field of ecology
i hope that last thing was a joke because it was a good one

>thinkin the cnidaria tentacle has ANYTHING similar with a cephalopoda tentacle
wow

>not octopopolis
ishygddt

>not octopopolopsocopolis

Arguably everything is a subfield of philosophy. What bearing does this have on the discussion?

>i hope that last thing was a joke
It is no joke. You clearly have serious problems thinking properly if you cannot critically analyze this and spot the obvious flaws and it will adversely affect your life and career, unless your career is sophistry of course.

rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/367/1606/3158.figures-only

he asked
>how could such a thing evolve
it's not hard to imagine how was my point.

Legitimate answer, because males are at high risk of dying during mating and females are at high risk of death during child birth. And I don't mean high risk like 50%, I mean like 99%. They don't raise their offspring, so no knowledge is passed down and no language is even formed. If they didn't die in childbirth and behaved like dolphins (and they are neurologically capable), they'd probably become a rival species in a few hundred generations, especially if aided by humanity.

Self correction:
>Oviparity depositing
>Not child birth. (Duh.)

those are mountains you stupid dumb fucking biolo"gist"

these double digit IQ niggers and their stupid nigger babble, I swear

Well I will agree I have a thought problem at the moment, I'm trying to do all the drugs at reckless amounts tonight before sleep.
I wasn't counting on you reverse search, clever girl. That's what I thought was jokeᎡ I can't understand the picture let alone find your spook.
Explained it to me

>biology is a soft sci-

ence

>not octopocolyptopopuloptopopsocopolis

Also no, social systems are ecological networks

>HOLD THE PHONE UP
Social networks and systems exist in ecological systems. Sociology is part of systems ecology and I'm not taking about the "y is really just x" meme

they rely on welfare

What about using geothermal heat?

Depends on what field you're talking about OP. There's a major power gap between molecular genetics and ecology.

Also, bioinformatics is the way of the future for research and medical diagnosis.

>biology is easy
said no one ever

>diffgeo applied to biological systems is biology

Why haven't niggers developed civilisation yet?

The father doesn't pass down information because he usually leaves

1.No individuality due to their nervous system
2.Fingers will never exist underwater
3.Die after fucking
4.Metal is impossible to mine underwater unless you are in the modern age
5.Surrounded by things that eat them unlike humans on land who can just move away
6.No endoskeletons
7.No social systems they are solitary creatures
8.No chance of a written language
9.They communicate with skin patterns rather than sound making any kanguage of theirs impractical
10.Tentacles have terrible dexterity compared to our fingers

If you didn't know all that before entering the degree, you don't belong in it.

japanese porn

God made it like that

Diffgeo is literally just a language for global analysis, although that statement has triggered fellow diffgeo-meters more than once.

Water from a hydrothermal vent can reach up to 464 degrees celcius, according to wiki, so octopi could potentially smelt lead, tin and zinc, but not copper/bronze or iron.

I would add that they live very short.

>9.They communicate with skin patterns rather than sound making any kanguage of theirs impractical
This is actually pretty cool, no? They could literally write glyphs directly on their skin, why couldn't they make a language with that?

yeah but how would they communicate in long distances

it is not about the anatomy of the octopussy, you brainlet
it is how he is an evolutive aberration

>remember parts of animals
>hard

sound can be used for long distance and doesnt need to be seen.

-sy

>octopi
Octopodes
Also to answer you question cephalopods are solitary creatures by nature living their entire lives alone so they lack any kind of social structure that would be necessary to form a society

God done did it.

Could a society evolve underwater
Not having fingers or fire seems fucking shitty

I saw an ancient aliens tier documentary about mermaids
the theory was that some humans evolved into mermaids because ancient humans would collect molluscs off the African coast

not very social

> Octopodes
Octopuses

>movement path is random
Huh?

>Octopuses
Octopus

Fuckin brainlets I swear...

Octop00si

why did you think that, the only intelligence test for posting on this board is being able to locate it.

>bioinformatics is the way of the future for research and medical diagnosis.

Bioinformatician here, he is correct

Who the fuck thinks biology is easy? The sheer amount of things you have to memorize turns most people off of it almost immediately.

Noice

no need, already past that phase

>what caused it to develop such a strange structure as tentacles?
the need to survive

biology is shit because its all memorization, theres little to no understanding compared to other fields

da white man

>sociology is just a sub field of ecology
>unless your career is sophistry of course.
>Arguably everything is a subfield of philosophy
>You clearly have serious problems thinking
>critically analyze
>critically

>Being this condescending even though your pseudoscience field believes in 20 demisexual, asexual, pansexual genders and denies almost all influences of evolutionary biology in humans since their too deep4u in space for bullshit ideas of tabula rasa and 100 year old books written by cocaine addict freudoed.

this makes no sense. fucking lifehacks blogs come up with the dumbest shit

Because this board isn't /pol/.

For one thing, they barely have more intelligence than the house cat, who also haven't created their own civilization.

?

They may not have created their own civilization, but they have co-opted ours.

i always hated biology in school
instead of biology physics and chemistry we had the class called BPC but the problem was that there were no teacher that could do all 3 topics.

always got A´s in physics and B´s in chem without even learning but biology was just bland memorizing of stupid facts
teacher ingrade 10
>lets take that text with missing words, well i write the answers on the bord otherwise it takes to long.
most of the time i just read the words 10min before the test so just got B&C´s

it evolved you dip

What does bioinformatic do?

No field of stem is easy when you get at a post-phd level. There is always shit like biophysics, neuronal networking etc

generate simulations of biological models based on known data and long equations

cool stuff

>biophysics
So you're admitting that biology actually gets hard when it's mixed with physics

>mixed with physics

all applied science is "mixed with physics" on some level you autist. what kind of biology isn't "mixed with physics"? what i'm saying is once you get at post-phd level, all stem fields get "hard".

Ugh, no shit! Every thing gets hard, but if physics is harder, so it's easy compared to physics

Sequence analysis, structure prediction etc.

Who else here /biofag/ who gets sad every fucking time someone conflates anatomy and physiology with biology holistically?

It's like saying Math is the easiest shit in the world because I can add and subtract.

Biofags and chemfags are the coolest people on Veeky Forums anyways, besides maybe geofags or the stray astrofag.

a child could memorize that in a number of minutes with ease I really hope this is a troll

You do realize that's not what biology is though, correct? And a potential meaning behind the OP could be that systems that end up with organs that are far and gone from mammalian organs have a lot yet to be discovered?

Maybe the discussion is that there are a lot of levels of analysis that can be done on what selection pressures would favor some of the phenotypes shown?

Or, perhaps it could be a leadin to a question of what kind of genes were mutated to produce the organs seen in the octopus, which ones are likely homologous and which ones are homoplaisic to mammals (hint: With octopi, it's actually incredibly interesting, their evolutionary track and how much independently evolved with similar function to mammals).

Or maybe it's a systematic approach, discussing the physiological means behind the function of the octopus. What chemical is synthesized for their ink, how is it done, what are the involved enzymes, how can those enzymes be mimicked by commercial means, what kind of tissues are involved in the creation of a vacuum with suction cups, how much force can they withstand, how can similar polymers be synthesized using their suction cups as models, etc.

You're legitimately retarded if you think biology is as simple as naming body parts.

but physics isn't separated from other stem fields by some brick wall you autist. physics are biology and biology is physics

I guess that's why Australia wants to genocide them all.

>biophysics

>biology actually gets hard when it's mixed with physics

Just like the hardest part of Chemistry is Physical Chemistry.

Hardest part of physics confirmed to be physical physics.

Tentacles made it a more successful hunter

Enormous, revolutionary, and unprecedented prediction power for biology. It is the means for biology to transform into a full-fledged hard science rather than sitting on the fence between hard and soft.

In the next couple decades, it will be mandatory for a biologist to know NCBI, Ensembl, etc. inside and out like an engineer to Autocad or Solid Edge. Oh, and likely need to know a programming language relevant to their field like Perl for PCR funsies.

Essential stuff too, without fields like computational chemistry and bioinformatics we wouldn't be able to make effective fucking medicines, its used to elucidate the structure of enzyme receptors for drugs for example. Its helpful to see the shit you talk theory about in a 3 dimensional representation, this is just one use of the field which is now necessary for our existence. Fields like bioinformatics will prove invaluable to the superbug shit happening rn and as of the future.

> It is the means for biology to transform into a full-fledged hard science rather than sitting on the fence between hard and soft.

Oh my nig, I get a bit of flack for taking compsci with Biotech from both sides and chemfags, environmental, earth science and all the fields that require bio don't seem to share any interest in computational sciences either which is sort of disappointing, it can get lonely at times.

Also did you know the guy who invented PCR doesn't think AIDS is caused by HIV and climate change is an over-hyped conspiracy perpetuated by environmentalists ayy.