Why do westerners today keep on seeking recourse to eastern "philosophy" and...

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

why do westerners today keep on seeking recourse to eastern "philosophy" and religion to alleviate their spirituality bankruptcy but proceed to ignore the massive literature made on the topic by the west? i find it really weird and almost counter-intuitive. i'm sure most decently educated burgers have at least heard of someone like emerson and most westerners of plato

MPmaster
MPmaster

Average pleb is infected with post modernist/leftist cynicism and self hatred. World war 2, communist genocides and the holocaust were thst traumatic to the western psyche.

girlDog
girlDog

maybe they want to search but are afraid to find something conclusive

5mileys
5mileys

@MPmaster
woah hot takes there bud, haven't heard these nuggets of golden wisdom before. pls tell me more about the western psyche

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Dreamworx
Why does it matter?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@iluvmen
i dont really know but its just interesting to think about. you'd think that people brought upon by a certain tradition would be more inclined to read works in their tradition rather than a wholly foreign one due to ease of understanding and pragmatic reasons of accessibility. perhaps some form of "reset", so to speak, took place but at this point im just thinking out loud

SniperWish
SniperWish

@5mileys
Thats all ive got so far. Glad we can agree on it though.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Emberfire
Who gives a shit about ease of understanding and pragmatism? We're humans.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

nobody does this but hippies though

Nojokur
Nojokur

@BinaryMan
I'm not a hippy and I'm fascinated by all western and eastern philosophies. That said I particularly like, and agree with, Buddhist philosophy and do my best to adhere to it. Though, I don't use it as, or think of it as, a religion. At least not to me, personally.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Dreamworx
Because the westerners (mainly celebrities and hippies) view the east as if it has a sort of "exotic mysticism" about it that attracts them. They think that they will find some sort of secret wisdom by meditating in the mountains or something. It's just baseless fetishizing of another (distant) culture.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Nojokur

I mean people who duck into eastern philosophy at the expense of western because it's exotic and gives them lots of nice soundbites for facebook, not everyone who's into it. Obviously learning more stuff is always good, I intend to look into it myself eventually

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Fried_Sushi
No one actually does this and in the end it's no different than those seeking the guidance or learnings of any other philosophy

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Dreamworx
Does contemporary Eastern philosophy even exist anymore? I've read quite a lot about Indian philosophy and I've been so disappointed. I actually believed that it would give me another, worthwhile viewpoint but no.

Kind of sad when such a large literacy tradition has gone sour desu.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Raving_Cute
Personally, my favorite is a balance between Buddhism and the Greeks, but I also love object-oriented ontology as well. I'll read other philosophy even if I don't agree with it.

@Crazy_Nice
You know I tried to get into some Indian Philosophy and Hinduism but I just couldn't. At least with Hinduism it was fun at first but overwhelming and then it just fell flat for me.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Soft_member
Indian philosophy seems to be synonymous with Dharmic religious philosophy. I mean Western philosophy has been heavily influenced by Christianity but it also has lots of influences from Greco-Roman, Islam, Zoroastrianism and Judaism. Western philosophy actually has lots of Oriental legacy but it has still evolved into something better. Actually the history of Western philosophy makes the "Exotic Eastern" thing kind of ridiculous.

Indian philosophy on the other hand has never truly accepted outside influences or viewpoints. Same goes with the Chinese philosophy. Basically they've stagnated as far as I know.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Dreamworx
why do westerners today keep on seeking recourse to eastern "philosophy" and religion to alleviate their spirituality bankruptcy but proceed to ignore the massive literature made on the topic by the west? i find it really weird and almost counter-intuitive.
Why? It seems obvious to me. If you don't like
living in your neighborhood would you look for a new house next door?

Techpill
Techpill

@Lunatick

They totally do though. I know several people who speak almost entirely in pseudo-Deepak Chopra gibberish and walk around in bindis who are dumb as posts but good at generating enough wind to convince each other they're 'spiritual'. Again that's not a knock against eastern philosophy or people who study it, just annoying middle-class hippies

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Dreamworx
It's either because people are xenophiliacs and are infatuated with everything that is not in their own tradition and culture, or it's because of the Death of God.

Either way, it's not something we can do anything about.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@CouchChiller
im sure most people do

@Playboyize
but most of them aren't even fully aware of the tradition. they just hear the names and never try to grasp them, perhaps as nothing catches their attention, but do not hesitate to do the opposite for the east. they just "move out", so to speak

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Dreamworx
Maybe because current Western politics consists of "Fuck the West!"

FastChef
FastChef

@BlogWobbles
im sure most people do
Really? Do you do everything based on ease of understanding? Do you never take the challenging road? Do you never do anything nonsensical just for the sake of wanting to or wanting to overcome something that someone else told you that you couldn't or something that you thought you couldn't? What's pragmatic about you posting here? Is everything you do in your daily life entirely pragmatic? Absolutely not.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Because western philosophy is infected with christianity, and to the average american that brings up images of the Westboro baptist church/priests fucking young boys

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@AwesomeTucker
Uhm no... /pol/

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@StrangeWizard
/not an argument/

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@AwesomeTucker
evidence?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Dreamworx
Hinduism is the oldest religion and it lines up pretty well with science. CERN has a dancing Shiva statue right outside their complex.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@FastChef
i never said anything about people doing everything with ease of understanding and pragmatism in mind. perhaps i should have that much more explicit. dont push it too far as i didnt

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Garbage Can Lid
Hold on, let me go to breitbart and find something for you real fast!

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Garbage Can Lid
Find the nearest feminist channel spouting about our terrible rape culture and how we need to be more like the progressive Islamic cultures.

farquit
farquit

@Lord_Tryzalot
Fair enough. I guess I was just trying to point out that we all do things and take up interests that may be nonsensical to others who don't share the same interests.

takes2long
takes2long

@Evil_kitten
/pol/

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Dreamworx

Why even bother to read this shitty ancient literature made up by morons when you get all the good themes in cartoons like Caillou. Has all the good themes without the retarded bullshit about the sun being a burning wheel and other useless shit Greeks believed in

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@takes2long
I'm too scared of opposing viewpoints in a thread about philosophy

Ever think your behavior right here is why Westerners are looking away from "Western philosophy"? The West itself has lost all interest in open discourse. Why should it trust itself when its ideas somehow led here?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Gigastrength
You're not discussing philosophy. You're trying to turn this into a discussion on politics using bullshit fallacies and non-arguments.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Playboyize
@Gigastrength
gaslighting

SniperWish
SniperWish

@AwesomeTucker
**German politics

speak for yourself, Hans

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Dreamworx
implying that the greeks didn't do the same
bitch ass nigga

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@BlogWobbles
Every one has their reasons to look for spiritual guidance in certain places, I just don't think is that wierd that westerns turn their heads to eastern ideas, and desu most of them just look at the westernized version of eastern philosophies.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@TurtleCat
perhaps with mathematics and with the near east rather than the far east but to claim that greek philosophy is influenced by eastern philosophy (as in the far east) strikes me as some 21st century historical revisionist claim, like those who claim plato came upon the old testament on his trip(s) to egypt and drew all of his knowledge there

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