IQ gap between races

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Makes a new language with grammar too complex for an average IQ guy like me to get.

The simple fact Asians have the most written grammatically complex languages on earth shows the difference in base intelligence between them and us whiteys.

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Intelligence varies between dolphins, horses, dogs, and other intelligent mammals. You're implying we can teach them to be as smart as us?
Humans are just another animal.
Animals also pass on instinct which is similar to human intuition and motivational urges. Who do you think passes on genes for higher IQ? 5 generations of scientists or 5 generations of do nothing welfare recipients?

>If Asians have higher IQs than Europeans then why are European nations more developed and contributed much more in all the fields.

Simple answer is: scientific and industrial revolution began in the West.

This gave white people a huge headstart.

Most dolphins are literally smarter than the average human on earth. Orcas are probably smarter than Ashkenazi jews since they can easily learn a language FROM ANOTHER SPECIES.

>why are European nations more developed

are they? Countries such as Japan, Singapore, South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan are as developed as Europe, in some ways even more advanced

>Humans are just another animal.
sure, the difference is genetics in case of different human populations are negligible compared to other animals, because we expanded too fast for them to kick in

Source:
lagriffedulion.f2s.com/sft.htm

I think you are confusing "inteligence" with IQ.
You can't measure something as complicated and deep as intelligence with a one dimensional number and by using shitty tests.
IQ tests measure the ability to solve some specific types of abstract problems. You can train yourself to solve them.
If you were studying mathematics all your life, of course you are going to be good at IQ test problems, while someone who could be potentially better than you isn't because he chose to become a farmer.

WHERE IS THE MISSING RACE!!!

I take the abnormally high IQ results for Asians, compared to their low achievements in government, pollution control, science, etc as more just a measure of testing ability. Asians tend to push their children to succeed in life, with the hope they will support the parents so they can retire. That tends to show a very low IQ, but the net result of being pushed constantly to test and study in school, rather than have a childhood, leads to better IQ results, out of sheer practice.

Asians in college faired very poorly in my school, and generally shouldn't have been there in the first place. Those who make it through college and get a job in their field fair far worse. I have never worked with anyone of Asian descent who was a competent programmer, and in all but one case, what little code they produced had to be rewritten for them by caucasians to avoid the crashes.

Around 95% of global warming pollution comes from Asia, and the Pacific ocean has practically been wiped out by Asian pollution. Overall, they demonstrate a very low, almost African, IQ judging by anything other than the IQ tests themselves.

>If Asians have higher IQs than Europeans
The difference is absolutely irrelevant, OP. The standard IQ deviation is 15, not 5.

>saying that IQ is genetic is now a /pol/ stance

Are you retarded or something?

Using what technology?

Oh right tech that was developed in the west...

IQ is literally a social construct

Western culture allows people to try new things, even if they fail. This leads to competition and growth.

>Around 95% of global warming pollution comes from Asia
That's not true. Yes, China generates the most, but the idea that the US and Europe aren't contributing a lot too is absurd.

Of course your genes have to do something with your intelligence. But this retarded OP is thinking that your genes almost completely determine your IQ test results and that's just false.

>Like most aspects of human behavior and cognition, intelligence is a complex trait that is influenced by both genetic and environmental factors.

ghr.nlm.nih.gov/primer/traits/intelligence

IQ is genetic AND environmental, it's a mixture of both. Those that deny IQ is genetic are just as dumb as those that claim IQ is 100% genetic.

there is plenty of R&D going on in the east nowadays, so no, it is a mix of western and eastern tech

Literally what I said in my post you fucknigger

I'm just replying to everyone who mentioned IQ, calm your tits

It's a thread about IQ you autist

I think that's where gorillas fit in

>those that claim IQ is 100% genetic

I dont think anyone actually believes that

>complains that someone replied to him in a mass reply post
>calls other people autistic

>Those that deny IQ is genetic
nobody did this here

> Pie chart representing official, misreported, Chinese pollution statistics

China, as with their population reporting and currency control, lies profusely in reporting pollution statistics. That chart is based on official numbers, not actual. Studies show that 30% of San Francisco's air pollution comes from China, which is far more accurate a number and completely destroys that 30% claim. You can probably double or more the China portion in that graph.

Also, much of the pink 30% is Asia, so even in the official, not actual, statistics, Asia (India to Japan, about 80% of the world's population) provides close to 81% of global air pollution.

Also, while the US and EU are rapidly reducing their pollution output, China is rapidly increasing its own. That also fails to take into account the effect of China and Asia using the Pacific as its own private land fill, which has reduced fish and plant populations to a fraction of a percent of their 1963 levels. That greatly reduces carbon sequestration and pollution remediation by ocean wildlife, greatly increasing the problem.

It was reasonable to do the "blame whitey" and "blame the US" shit back in the 70s, when it was accurate, but the liberal blame standards don't apply in 2017. They need to be completely overhauled, in fact. Those who continue to use them are irrelevant to the discussion because they just don't reflect the modern situation.

"About 29% of San Francisco’s pollution comes from China"
zmescience.com/ecology/environmental-issues/about-29-of-san-franciscos-pollution-comes-from-china-42334/

>can different st'd deviations account for..

Well what are they? The deviations
From your pic it seems to me asians have an ST'd of 8 and whites of 15.

This is not documented.

This is probably the reason the picture leaves out the actual numbers.

Or the author is low IQ.

Or both.

This is a thread about IQ, not CO2 Emissions . The 2 things are not related.

India has High CO2 Emission & Low IQ
China has High CO2 Emission & High IQ
Scandinavia has Low CO2 Emission & High IQ
Africa has Low CO2 Emission & Low IQ

See the 2 variables are not related. There is no correlation whatsoever.

>India has High CO2 Emission & Low IQ
What's India's IQ

their optimum is most certainly in the 90's, even according to right wing hbd 'race specialists'

>IQ is genetic AND environmental, it's a mixture of both. Those that deny IQ is genetic are just as dumb as those that claim IQ is 100% genetic.

The twin studies I've seen show a difference of between 5 and 15 IQ points between twins who had a strong family environment and those who had a poor one, generally about 10 points. That places Asian IQs at about 95 compared to the Caucasian 100 with the Asian tendency to push children removed. It also places the "nurture" component of IQ at around 10%, and 90% genetics.

Most of the nature vs nurture studies come out about the same, whether crime statistics, IQ results, murder rates (as opposed to overall crime), career success, etc - 10% environment vs 90% genetic disposition.

>India has High CO2 Emission & Low IQ
>China has High CO2 Emission & High IQ
>Scandinavia has Low CO2 Emission & High IQ
>Africa has Low CO2 Emission & Low IQ

A side discussion developed regarding Asian pollution. That sort of thing happens in most threads. You should try to get used to it.

Studies indicate that moral reciprocity is closely related to IQ, and I would suggest moral behavior in general. Asia shows a very, *very* low regard for morality and ethics. Japan signed an agreement not to hunt whales until the populations could recover, but never honored that agreement. China has wiped out the entire Pacific ocean similar to what Europe did to the closed Mediterranean in the 70s and the US to the Great Lakes. Europe and the US quickly addressed their problems, while Asia has just lied more aggressively in response. I believe that that should greatly reduce any estimation of *actual* Asian IQs compared to the test results.

India has High CO2 Emission & Low IQ
China has High CO2 Emission & *Low* IQ
Scandinavia has Low CO2 Emission & High IQ
Africa has Low CO2 Emission (due to low industrialization) & Low IQ

fixed that for you

>That's exactly what IQ is, your genetic intelligence. It's not something you can raise by hardwork or study.

no, because no matter what the genes have been influenced heavily by the environment at the point where you are testing IQ.

if there was a way to probe a newborn baby's brain and measure IQ, i would agree with you, but there isnt.

Japanese grammar is quite simple.

Some European languages are quite complex grammatically.

Sanskrit is closely related to Latin.

I don't think that you understand what you're talking about.

>That places Asian IQs at about 95 compared to the Caucasian 100 with the Asian tendency to push children removed.

The Degenerate Hollywood & Nigger Pop Culture (Shitty Movies, Music, TV Shows, etc) dumb down the West.

Asians & Jews value Education & push the Children.

However you need to account that Dumb people reproduce faster & have more offspring.

So the tendency is our civilization become dumber over time.

Unless a War (as WW2) or a Pandemics (as Black Death in Medieval Europe) kill periodically the dumber people.

The Black Death in Medieval Europe is pointed as the main cause of the fast progress of European Science in Late Middle Ages.

During the Black Death in Medieval Europe, the dumber European peasants with poor hygiene died while the smartest & cleanest Europeans elite survived.

These Smarter European survivors then began a rapid progress of Science & expansion by conquering, slaving & colonizing lesser races.

But seems that nowadays dumber Westerners influenced by Nigger/California Pop Culture began multiplying again, gradually dumbing down the society back to the Middle Age Levels.

How do you explain US, UK, France & Germany then faggot?

US, UK, France & Germany have High CO2 Emission & High (Low?) IQ

>It also places the "nurture" component of IQ at around 10%, and 90% genetics.
yes,if you are a retard that has no idea what heritability means

his link and many others say a figure of 50% variance in intelligence between individuals is due to genes
You are fucking delusional
Trump kills PCA, but it's China's fault - since East asians are like instects
I bet you supported trump though
>bacteria selected based on intelligence

This is a thread about IQ, not CO2 Emissions . The 2 things are not related.

US, UK, France & Germany have High CO2 Emission & High IQ
India has High CO2 Emission & Low IQ
Scandinavia has Low CO2 Emission & High IQ
Africa has Low CO2 Emission & Low IQ

See the 2 variables are not related. There is no correlation whatsoever.

>What's India's IQ
The average IQ in India is measured at about 82, about comparable to averages in the US for African Americans (85).

"World map of National IQ Scores by Country"
targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=2812

"National IQ Scores - Country Rankings"
photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html

testing

History and culture. Eventually they will probably surpass us if they work hard and maintain good values

>is measured at about 82,
Yeah 'measured' by Richard lynn.

Don't be absurd

>bacteria selected based on intelligence

Black Death killed the people with poor hygiene & nutrition (so dumber)

People with good hygiene & nutrition (so smarter) don't died.

I don't think you understand how life was back then.

Many intellectuals died during and shortly after WWII though, and during the Black Death intellectuals living in cities were more at risk than peasant due to higher concentration and transit of possibly infected people.

>You are fucking delusional
>Trump kills PCA, but it's China's fault - since East asians are like instects
>I bet you supported trump though

If you would like to join the discussion, discus, don't just post unsupported political hatred.

The PCA was destroying the environment. Pollution controls in Europe and the US move production to Asia, where pollution controls don't exist. People don't stop using cell phones, they're just force to live with Asian built ones. A cell phone that would have produced 1 pound of recovered pollution in the US now creates 10 pounds of un-recovered pollution in China, thanks to the PCA. Without a closed system, with all manufacturers involved, any climate or pollution agreement will have a worsening effect, not act to improve.

I voted not-Hillary. I had to base on her email problems and her lack of accomplishments as secretary of state. I didn't vote against the Obama.

> why are European nations more developed
Apparently you've never been to Tokyo.

> contributed much more in all the fields
Name one invention a European did that wasn't directly involved in killing the guy who lived on the other side of the front line.

Face it. The only thing Europeans are good at is slaughtering each other.

>I don't think you understand how life was back then.
They weren't intentionally hygienic, but studies do show that the black death hit the lower classes hardest. Upper class folks got to ride horses or in carriages while lower classes got to walk in the feces and rat filled streets, for instance.

Clean cities didn't start showing up until the cholera plague of London, but he's right - the plague hit the lower classes harder than the higher ones.

>Name one invention a European did that wasn't directly involved in killing the guy who lived on the other side of the front line

I don't know, the credit card? Although it could conceivably be used that way if you're very good at ninjutsu.

Your curves are off. Black IQ in the US averages 110. I thought I proved that in the last 6 times you tried this thread.

These explanation "dumber people gets killed" is very similar to "dumber people gets arrested"

Why Japan, China, Korea & Vietnam have an IQ much higher than neighboring Thai or Philippines?

WW2 in East Asia killed 20 millions of Chinese & 3 millions of Japanese (200.000 by US Nukes)
The Chinese Civil War killed 6 million Chinese peeple.
The Korean Civil War killed 1.6 millions.
The Vietnam War killed 1.2

The dumb people get killed first. It explain why East Asians have high IQ for now.

Because Dumb People died, Smart people survived.

For the same reason the USA emerged as Superpower after the American Civil War.

American Civil war Killed at least 750000 White Americans. The Dumb get killed. It raised the American IQ. Then USA become superpower.

WW1 Killed about 39 millions of Europeans. WW2 Killed about 73 millions of Europeans, Americans & East Asians.

The reason that Europe, USA & East Asian IQ still high it's because the World War killed most of Dumb People.

But naturally the dumb people reproduce more so periodic wars & pandemics are required to keep the World IQ high.

>Name one invention a European did that wasn't directly involved in killing the guy who lived on the other side of the front line.

Jeebus! I think I can name a few. How about the printing press, the cotton gin, dynamite (for mining), manned flight (European descent, at least), AC power (Tesla, born in Europe), automobiles, hot air balloons, western medicine (though Pasteur's work), space craft (heavily influenced by von Braun, and Goddard was of European descent, of course). The list is endless, in fact the list if European and European descent inventions is almost identical to the list of inventions.

> I don't know, the credit card?
Nope. Invented by a banker named John Biggins in Brooklyn in 1946. NOT European.

And, by the way, it was invented due to post-World War II scarcity, and a delay in government paychecks to returning Armymen.

Try again.

He's a retard who apparently doesn't know the black death didn't affect Europe equally, nor did it only affect Europe. Not to mention that bacteria actually kill smart people too since hygiene back then was non-existent.
>trump actually helped climate
>only dumb people went to war
>soldiers were dumb
>only dumb civilians died

haha FUCK NIGGERS FUCKING SUBHUMAN ANIMALS lynch/deport all spics, too

there's my contribution to this thread

But actually the Science evolve faster during War times

Science advanced incredibly fast during the World Wars & Cold War
From Nuclear Bombs to Landing on Moon

Include also: Nuclear Power, Computers Airplane, Helicopters, Machine Guns, Tanks, Submarines, Cars, Electricity, Modern Medicine, Anesthesia, New Chemicals, etc.

Sorry, I meant chip card.

dumbass soldiers have an average IQ of at least the IQ of the general population or higher since complete retards don't get to go to the military

think before you write

>only dumb people went to war
Only dumb people go to the war's battlefront line in suicide missions.

Yes the dumb Chad. Muscular guy type which can't to do math. The guys with less Brain Cells & more Muscle Mass.

Smart people go for high hierarchy in Military or become Scientists which work in places far away from BattleFront Lines.

>only dumb civilians died
Smart civilians escape.

For example in Holocaust the Dumb Jews were killed. While the Smart Jews like Einstein & Oppenheimer fled to USA.

>dumbass soldiers have an average IQ of at least the IQ of the general population or higher since complete

Not in World War times. In World War times everyone capable to carry a gun was called.

for you soldiers that die on the battlefield are of a certain age
also smart soldiers die long before they become MUH SCIENTISS

god, you are so pathetic

In the modern days if the average IQ guy is called it will became much worse now.

It means that the low IQ can now reproduce safely in the homeland dumbing down the IQ

The modern military requirement let the average IQ guy die on middle east battlefield

> printing press
Merely a mechanization of woodblock printing, a Chinese invention

> cotton gin
American.

> dynamite
Really?

> manned flight
American

> AC power
Electricity is not an invention

> Automobiles
Really?

> Hot air balloons
Really?

> western medicine
Pasteur was commissioned by the king of France to make better wine. I'll give you that one. Europeans drink between wars.

> space craft
First manned? Soviet Union.

So I guess you win - Europeans have invented better ways of getting stinking drunk. I guess that makes killing each other easier.

>soldiers that die on the battlefield are of a certain age
Exactly. Soldiers that die on the battlefield in the peak of reproductive age. If they are killed in combat before they can reproduce.

3/10, you slacked off quite a bit with this post.

You have 1000 people with an avg IQ of X
You remove 100 people with an avg IQ of X(they died in a war)
What changed?
Are you brain damaged.
Soldiers on the battlefield are typically young - long before they can become scientists, like in your scenario.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_inventions_and_discoveries

Take your pick

And that's just England, Europeans basically built the world. You're using the Internet which was developed in Europe.

Also white Americans ARE Europeans

>Europeans basically built the world
This statement depends on the time period. Europe is not homogeneous.

Oh and btw, white Americans are not Europeans. Their ancestors surely were.

Sergei Korolev a Ukrainian was responsible for Soviet space flight

Ukraine is a European nation

>you're ethnicity changes as you move

So African American and Europeans must be the same ethnicity then?

European is not an ethnicity.

Europeans encompass natives of Europe

Europeans have been in charge since Rome

Are you retarded?

In charge of what exactly. They (first euros, then US and USSR) really started to dictate what happens around the world in terms of culture fairly recently.
Proof of that is that western culture is literally everywhere in some form or another.
European is neither a race nor an ethnicity.
And you fucking know this.

Clearly a troll

Science evolve faster during War times

Do you guys never heard of Hegel? The greatest German Philosopher besides Kant?

Do you guys never heard of Hegel's Dialectics?

War evolve Science. Because the Progress require Dialectics the conflict between opposite sides.

This is the basis of Modern Philosophy & the basis for the Marx Communism.

>European is neither a race nor an ethnicity.
>And you fucking know this.

You're right race is a social construct created by evil racists

NAZIS FUCK OFF

THIS IS AN ANTIFA THREAD NOW

Even modern day Europeans are a mixture of first homo sapiens euros and some people from asia.

If you want to talk about a race then it's Caucasian - if you want to talk about ethnicities - it's german, italian, russian, maghrebi etc.

Do you think every peasant in China was tested?
Do you think every peasant in the West was tested?

...

Stop replying to him

Don't you see he's a shitskins whoes triggered by European superiority

Yeah and it was just a coincidence it started in Europe obviously.

Well different things started different places.
First civilizations(with a writing system) were in mesopotamia, egypt and china

Its both

Genetic intelligence * environmental factors * education

Your brain is like a muscle, people who train to solve problems that IQ tests will get better IQ scores because their brain has grown synapses that help with those tasks.

Some brains are just superior at growing these synapses like some people are natural athletes.
I saw somewhere another IQ chart showing the relation between IQ and wealth separating for race and even though the relation was linear blacks still lagged behind.

If IQ isn't based on genetics then why are people with downs syndrome lacking in IQ?

And yet they were still surpaced despite having a head start

Then what is it, if not a subgroup of the human species that is cloistered in a small area of earth, who share similar genetic traits? Europeans are (were) an isolated group. That is, by definition, an ethnicity.

Damn, I'm liberal, and even a gay male, but I just can't stand the new left. Just because an injustice that was somewhat related to a concept happened or happens doesn't mean you have the right to rewrite definitions or history. True liberals need a new movement like the alt right had. A party that espouses the real values of liberalism and western thought - free, unfettered markets, and common sense progressive, social values, not the amalgamations of fascism and inclusiveness the Tumblr community tries to push on us.

They weren't surpassed... the citizens of the Fertile Crescent are the grandfathers of modern Europeans

everybody gets surpassed at some point, because things change
the only classification that provides a somewhat isolated grouping of humans is in 5 races - european isn't one of them
it's caucasian, mongoloid, australoid, american indian, negroid
Yeah i'm sure you are a gay male liberal - seeing as you are basically a race denier
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