I make pretty decent money at about 82k as an electrical engineer but I still feel like I'm stuck in a rut. The work is boring honestly and my pain at work is only compounded by there being literally NO women at my workplace. Just a bunch of old crusty men and haggards.
I honestly feel I should have been a male nurse guys. Engineer work isn't really what it's cracked up to be.
Evan White
I'm only 24 btw guys, I feel like I can still pursue other venues once I save up a little more.
Levi Cook
> le engineers earn good money so its worth getting a shit watered down physics + math degree Suck it up loser maybe you should have studied harder in HS to get into a better course fuckhead
Wyatt Watson
You're either lying to yourself about your sexual preferences or you chose the wrong career and should get out as soon as possible regardless of how old you are.
Jacob Jackson
>complaining about a workplace without women I envy you user.
Nicholas Miller
And earn less money while being a grant baby?
Carter Hill
These chicks look like something you would find in a IHOP in West Virginia on a Friday night.
Andrew Hill
82k is trash user, this isn't the early 80s. If you're not making over 250k you're slacking and need to make a career move. Undergrad in Electrical engineering, graduate in Systems Engieering here.
Brody Ortiz
82k is high for the cost of living in my state.
I'm sorry you live in a shithole where rent is 2000 a month
Anthony Roberts
You shouldn't be meeting women for dating purposes at work anyway. I avoid that shit like the plague.
And I enjoy being an engineer. Of course EE is boring, it's tedious as fuck. Should have went with civil.
Dominic Bennett
>job is fucking boring ... The work is boring. Perfect candidate for Elon Musk's Boring Company.
Xavier Howard
Fug, any more of the girl in the middle?
Camden Murphy
Found the feminist
Benjamin Lee
I learned long ago that my joy in life is eroding faster than I can enjoy it. I am only briefly entertained by novelties and the fleeting instances of childlike wanderlust when the clouds of existential terror break away in the warm light of the sun. Then I can clearly see the love that connects me to the life I have grown so far apart from.
Jordan Lee
>by there being literally NO women at my workplace
Why do you want that?
>work in small consulting firm (30ish people) >all project managers are women >all engineers are men >all women irrespective of age and looks go after that one engineer that is a Chad >Chad doesn't want them because they are below his league >they still ignore everyone else and keep trying to flirt with Chad, even simultaneously, sometimes.
Charles Morgan
Not OP but what do you do if your degree has little lateral movement. I work as a pharmacist and want to blow my brains out every day. Plan atm is save as much money as I can while the money is good and leave when the market implodes.
Logan Martinez
Market implodes for pharmacy? How?
Aaron Green
>all project managers are women Jesus christ
Aaron Hall
Shit ton of graduates being pumped out every year. Our reimbursement is way down. Retail pharmacies basically lose money on most prescriptions filled due to middle men negotiation.
Easton Jenkins
Just to be clear, they are glorified secretaries. They don't handle anything technical.
Logan Miller
Boredom is the highest luxury money can afford. t. wise user
Lincoln King
Isn't it harder to get into engineering from HS compared to the hard sciences? In general aren't professional majors more difficult to get into?
Adam Watson
This is why I left applied math. Sure, the money is great, but the work is drudgery. It feels like you sold your soul. I'd rather make 70k doing whatever the fuck I want than 100k plugging data sets into R all day.
>my pain at work is only compounded by there being literally NO women at my workplace
Protip: never date coworkers
Jason Nelson
first week in my new IT job I literally do nothing tfw hot as fuck girls everywhere near me everywhere chads too the chads talk to me as if I am one of them but I'm some chubby nerd virgin with a small dick
I started hitting the gym tho maybe I can become a chad too can chads have small dicks?
Nathan Taylor
Come to Poland and become an alcoholic like me. It is way more fun. They become literally desperate sending you all kinds of whores trying to desperately avoid you killing yourself or something like that.
Jordan White
ya that kid is just rtarded, in cali engi courses by far have the highest cut off to get into By that I'm not saying they're the most difficult rather they're competitive
Angel Wood
this guy is probably right, but Poland has vodka, and really short and tight young girls. In cali you would probably get crucified by some sect for enjoying that.
Brandon Jenkins
Should have went with the RF/analog/mmw engineering master race desu.
Chase Ortiz
why the fuck would you want women in the workplace? Let me guess, you think that your job would become some significant source of dates for you. It wouldn't.
What would happen is a bunch of incompetent bitches would stab you in the back.
Go try to meet women some other way, if you really want to. I still discourage it because women are despicable, but at least you won't be jeopardizing your career.
Levi Taylor
Want to switch life with me ? I want a boring easy job where i can complete everything in 2 days then spend the rest of the week fucking around. Also try to get to know "crusty old men", if you share an hobby with one of them you hit jackpot. You have to be really good to get a job in analog now, since they are switching almost everything to digital. RF and mmw are even more tedious than other branches imo.
Isaiah Morgan
Nice butts
William Fisher
Yeah I guess...it was pretty easy to get job offers for me and others I know, but I guess my masters program focused on taping out chips and heavily focused on job placement
Gavin Mitchell
Biofag here, better stop fucking whining about having men in your field. Bio has like 50% women, and while they're not typical annoying stacies with """management""" positions, they can never have autistic male hobbies, meaning you have absolutely nothing in common to talk with. And the males in the field are either pseudo-chads or serial killer-tier autists. I WISH there were more middle-autist computer nerds to talk shit with.
Although I guess people will find problems to complain about no matter what their situation, self included, so I can't blame you.
Aiden Lee
>>complaining about a workplace without women >I envy you user. When I did an Internship drafting with AutoCAD I shared the room with accountant ugly women for a few months. Women are always Whining, bitching, gossiping & complaining. When the Period/menstruation comes they become angry, hysteric, mad, complaining all day about cramps & triggered by anything. Men It was fucking annoying. I tolerate my GF because she is cute & I love my GF. But these ugly coworker women were fucking annoying.
Kayden Torres
No, they look like girls you'd be too intimidated to talk to outside a bar in Minneapolis. Get out more.
Gabriel Cox
I'm a paramedic, and bored, and generally hate lithos life.
Noah Nelson
I want to work with this girl in my Lab. Kurisu. >from Stein's; Gate.
Ethan Morgan
should have went into field/theoretical bio field bio girls are cool, and theoretical biology is a mans world
Hudson Lee
>Wanting women on the workplace If you actually had some you'll know.
Elijah Lee
Girls in biology in general are passable, they have decent personalities for the most part, but boring for the most part, as with the majority of women.
I'm not sure what you mean by theoretical biology though, like integrative systems bio or something like that?
The reason I wouldn't consider field or theoretical is because experimental lab work is where the results that make a difference are obtained. But lab work is quite tedious as well. I might consider bioinformatics in that case.
Mason Parker
These chicks have been BLACKED?
Jaxon Hall
fuck I can relate
Connor Russell
I'm a doctor, in my country women are preferentially employed and my specialty is a female-heavy one, plus the nurses are also mostly female or gay. It's one reason I'm considering radical lifestyle changes. They are almost never interested in the subject matter at hand, which funnily is about the well-being of other people, but are almost always interested in their social relations, their social standing, and how they can win allies and destroy enemies. Also they talk all day about bullshit, can't bear silence. You have to concentrate on the job and on keeping them happy, because if they feel abandoned, they turn against you. But if you pay them too much attention, they consider you less valuable. And you cannot avoid their physical proximity nor having to deal with them because of how the work is organised. C'est énervant.
This is truth.
Also this.
Zachary Cooper
DR DICK GIVE ME ADVICE, IM THE PHARMACY FAG. LET US LEAVE HEALTHCARE AND TAKE ME FAR AWAY.
Asher Murphy
Bah oui mais en même temps si tu fais pédiatre ou gynéco faut pas s'étonner non plus.
Maybe switch to research, clerk-fag ?
Brayden James
You sound like a fucking loser no offense
Luke Howard
FUCCCKKK. All I wanna do is be a doctor and not wanna kill myself. This is not inspiring.
Zachary Young
Yes I would like that but where else am I going to earn this much money? I'm 30 and feel like I don't have so many options left. Also one perk of my work contract is exquisite social goodies such as childcare paid by employer for 3 years (guess the country?).
William Gonzalez
Made me reply
Don't do it
Evan Adams
Consulting my man. I'm guessing you live in a nordic country by the way.
Liam Garcia
Math major here working in the technology sector. I don't want to get into the details but I already quit and soon I will be out. Getting a normal job was a mistake and now I am immediately going into academia. I am going to get paid only a fraction of what I earn but at least it will be fun and after I get my PhD I can expect my income to rise a lot.
Feels good man.
Grayson Rodriguez
You're wrong to want women as co-workers. Your feelings are wrong. Ironically, most straight men past about 25 or so understand the hazards and undesirability of actually working with women.
When you're at job, what you want is simply to complete the work. Women get in the way of this by: gossiping, inserting their personal drama into the workplace in subtle ways, and when they're young and attractive, creating a disruptive environment where all the men either unconsiously or explicitly compete for their attention, even if they're not actually trying to fuck her, it's still a status-pissing match that gets in the way of work. Not to mention that dating coworkers is so stupid that many companies are right to have on-paper policies against it.
Camden Sanders
I'd hate the culture and also it's more hours for smaller median pay.
Truth. But the mating aspect is not as heavy as the chit-chat and games aspect and the generally willfully concentration-disrupting attention-seeking behaviour.
Jordan Robinson
>can chads have small dicks? Yes but you will be a one time Chad. You will become Chad and then get a woman to worship you. You will have the sex of your life but then she'll find out of your small penis and after you are done with her she won't worship you anymore and then she will spread the rumor.
The best you can do is hit the clubs with your Chad body as different groups of women show up every night but remember that every time you have sex you are immediately turning off that woman and all her friends from having sex with you. You need to meet new women at all times. I suggest you get a bunch of different hobbies and get a map of every club in town so that you can rotate a bit.
Dominic Davis
I mean, if you call being able to actually create something useful with the physics & math knowledge "watered down," which you're free to do.
I came from a physics degree and went into engineering after a couple of years because I wound up doing a bunch of DIY projects at home and found the process to be fun and interesting to me, especially at the end when I had a little gadget that worked. A large chunk of the engineering curriculum was covered in my physics curriculum, yes, but there's a lot about the application of physics that just doesn't come to light without black-boxing some of its principles.
Case and point is the thread at where he was trying to get a better grasp on physics to do the very thing that got me into engineering. Maxwell's equations and particle physics don't tell you anything about how to build a circuit, but the engineers can bring the magic of physics from the paper into the real world. The physicists discover the runes, and the engineers write the spells.
Aaron Carter
>Be me >good looking face but overweight, probably a 6.5/10 on a good day >get hired on to a smallish firm of around 80 people >literally 1 of 2 men under 30 >literally one of 10 not obese >be the only one in our department that wears slacks and a dress shirt instead of autism jeans and old polls
The 10 or so women I work with are always smiling, holding doors open for me, greeting me when I come in the morning. It's really weird, I have never had this happen to me before.
Jason Lewis
Not Working = Not Functioning Not Functioning = Mental Illness
This is also true for: Not Cooperating Not Being Silent Not Making Sense To Others Not Aligning With Polical Parties and Religious Institutions Not Obeying Authoirty
In fact, not doing things is dispruptive, and disruptive behavior is a sign of mental illness.
Also, you can not do things either. You can not think. You can not feel. You can not yell. You can not cry. You can not hit your own property. You can not touch your own body. You can not protest.
Obey.
'Give me liberty or give me death' are the words of a madman having a breakdown.
Obey. Obey. Obey.
- The American Psychiatric Association
Grayson Gutierrez
>Getting a normal job was a mistake why
Owen Reyes
Because I had already tasted academia. It was a mistake to think that I could go back to being a normal person. I had already done undergrad research, I had already kinda collaborated with my professors (more like they advised me on what to do after I showed them my results but you get the idea) and I already knew how working in research felt.
1) You take an interest in something, usually by reading a book that presents interesting problems 2) You explore it 3) Then either you find nothing important and move on to another thing (which doesn't hurt you because it was fun) or you find something interesting and then you write about it and show to your professors and get infinite praise.
Not only that but I had also been invited to give classes in topics I had excelled at so I also had a taste on what teaching at a university was like. And I had even been invited to talks where I sat next to a bunch of professors to listen to the speaker about their state of the art research. Basically even though I was still an undergrad, I already had a taste of what being a professor would be and it was fun. It was safe, but it was not stressful and I could meet and talk a lot of people with similar interests.
But a normal job is not like this. At the beginning it may feel like this because when you start you usually get assigned someone who shows you what the company does and teaches you a lot of new things. Then you start doing things that for you are completely new but then after a month or two you are still doing the same thing. Old work usually piles up and then comes the stress. Then comes having to play politics with your boss and your co-workers so that you can stay afloat because if you do not play politics then everything that goes wrong is blamed on you and then you are fucked forever.
Research is never like this. Terence Tao says his research takes like 6 months and in this time he tries a bunch of new things, instead of just repeating an old thing.
Luis Phillips
Sounds nice if that's how it is in your field.
In my field 1.) Read papers by the big guys 2.) Do the same thing in green at much lower quality 3.) Aggressively try to publish it high-impact with ferocious tenacity
Doing something new or daring would be much too high-risk. This is a business, someone's gonna pay for this, so the low-hanging fruit is all you can go for. Other people publish in journals with 1 impact factor point, at least you're not them.
Camden Hall
I agree and that's the same reason I wanted to be a researcher. I'm almost done with Phd and will get getting a govt research job in teh next year. I am still debating govt research vs trying to be a professor but it just doesn't seem worth it to stress for 5-7 more years about getting tenure
Ethan Green
>2.) Do the same thing in green at much lower quality Why would you do something that has already been done?
Wouldn't it be better to do the things they didn't do but are related to their topic so that you can build on that and perhaps leech off of their reputation by contributing to their research?
Well, good for you. You seem to be at the end of your PhD and I am just about to start. My biggest fear is that perhaps in the years it takes me to finish I will lose the spark I had with mathematics but if you already went through all that and you are still feeling it then perhaps I will be fine too.
I mean, if I think back of when I was starting my undergrad and compare with how I am today I'd say that now I am much more willing to spent long hours doing math for fun than I was back then so perhaps this trend will continue and I'll end up like Erdos and die just after I finish exposing my proof for a famous conjecture.
Austin Cook
Lol looks like you found that picture of Backpage
Carson Hill
they've probably been piped by every single size, shape and complexion there is
Nathan Richardson
Because you do it slightly differently. It's like in the startup scene. Nobody wants to risk something completely new. You take a tested and proven idea and change it just as much as necessary for it to be appropriately "new". Therefore you can get the work done cheaply and it's lower-risk.
Sebastian Smith
That's okay but then another thing you could do is explore new ideas that are backed/approved by your professors. That way you get published on the merit of their reputation.
Kevin Hernandez
>Earth is still in its young, lively phase of 'thin crust floating on an orb of molten metal'. >Earthlings want to drill transportation tubes through this thin crust and expect them to be stable. >Dying under miles of rock, abandoned because it costs too much money to dig you out.
Elon, this will be a wasted investment except in the most geologically stable of regions. Should be pretty fun and cool at least.
Nolan White
Then what do I do?
Ayden Carter
>Anyone else think their job is fucking boring? Abso fucking lutely. I hate this shit but I need the money to pursue my real dreams.
Luke Gomez
I'm a grad student in geochem and I've never had any sort of problem with women in academia or in a workplace (interned at a tech company Chem lab). They were always professional from what I could see. Note: I'm gay so that has probably something to do with it.
What thus user says is completely true. Maneuvering in a workplace is shit and I find academia much more rewarding.
Connor White
>I mean, opinion discarded
Joshua Hernandez
>, which you're free to do. And he qualifies another person's opinion.
This is a no-bully zone, user!
Benjamin Kelly
Objectively, yes my job might be considered boring, but I'm easily entertained. I'm just glad my breaks are plentiful and I can listen to music in the lab.
But OP you should never date coworkers, that's just a disaster waiting to happen. But what you need to do OP is use your experience to get a better job at a bigger (population-wise) company. Any large company with many employees will have some women. Most will be hideous, and none will probably be a good option. That is, better than what you could find elsewhere.
But my point is, if you work at a bigger company, it's more acceptable and possible to date, but only if you work in separate departments. If things go bad and one of you is the other's supervisor or partner things could get real awkward real fast. Not a good idea if you care about your job as your livelihood. Though I've seen it done, it's extremely difficult. Plus what if she meets someone else at work? It's a two-way street.
Jaxson Cook
Fuck man just do something that involves women after work if you want to be around women.
Austin Bennett
Yoy can do private Research?
Julian Morris
>HS mattering
Oliver Clark
And what exactly do you do at your job?
Jaxson Roberts
just wait a for a few more years of the chore and drudgery of "living" the modern life, and you won't even be able to see or feel anything at all anymore.
Eli Lewis
Get into crossfit Crossfit gyms are filled with willing pussy (go for military chicks, they're all thots) t. Coached crossfit for 2 years, smashed endlessly
Isaac Morgan
I volunteered with a gay male in his 30s that worked for a pharmaceutical ethics company and he said it was terrible as it was 90% female. He took cock up the ass so with the sex appeal out the window he would talk about how the workplace was nothing more than cliques, bitching, and gossiping
He said it was the worst cliches of high school reimagined into his day job everyday. A sausage fest of aspies can in no way be worse than this
Aiden Edwards
The king of boring jobs here (Plasterer), ask me anything?
Nathaniel Lee
I just joined a crossfit gym but I'm still DYEL. I don't see how I can pick up fit girls there at least not for a while since they could easily pick one of the ripped guys
Thomas Mitchell
i have ocd and I thin kyour job is the BEST
Cameron Ramirez
Waaaa, I typed wrong! What an imposterous fallacy!
David Gray
>Implying the joy you find in life should come from your job
OP, your job should be a stable source of income and nothing more. Dating women from work is always a bad idea and the idea that fulfillment comes from your job is a fucking meme. Nobody that goes to work will enjoy it forever.
Sounds more like you've got a more general instance of depression. Try taking some time off or doing something in your spare time that isn't browsing image boards. I'm not disparaging you for browsing image boards, only mentioning that it isn't good for overall mental health.
Sebastian Martin
Wouldnt reccomend for ocd, I only have around 5 minutes to plaster and sand each gib line. If youre a contracter with not alot of jobs then maybe you can get the perfect spread.
Caleb Carter
>not studying what interests you Every time I start doubting if a PhD is the right move for me, one of you guys dutifully comes along and reminds me how shit life can be
Adam Thomas
T H I C C H I C C
Mason Hughes
>WAAAAAA MY JOB IS ''BORING'' get a grip asshole, you know how much shittier your life can be right now?
Luke Powell
God they're gorgeous. I would crawl up between them cheeks on the right and never come out
Jayden Reyes
lighten up, Internet Tough Guy
Eli Sanchez
I would take 82k at a boring job over being a meme data scientest and making 38k
Zachary Anderson
>The work is boring honestly and my pain at work is only compounded by there being literally NO women at my workplace
Get a new job
Brayden Sanders
>not realizing your first 3-5 years of engineering work are paying dues.
Austin Morris
Like a bear in the winter, I too would like to retreat into that canal and hibernate.
Luis Moore
You are probably right. And people wonder why I don't want to go "over there"...
Jaxon Young
It is made up to force you go back or to have a mental breakdown, visit psych-ward, become "reprogrammed" and then be forced back on the track afterwards.
But on the other hand that will make the brit mom funds watchers quite wary. They see their own kids potential future in you when they are out watching. Their lifework getting sick, potentially killing themselves. Would risk ruin the whole business model.
Jaxson Nelson
>lol you're not allowed to be dissatisfied or upset because things could be so much worse Lol you're not allowed to be satisfied or happy because things could be so much better
Austin Scott
>studied engineering >cucked some pure physicsfag out of a job and now work as a physicist >make engineer-tier money doing more enjoyable physics work How can pure math/phys fags even compete with engineers?