How do we stop nuclear power?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Nuclear power is dirty, dangerous, expensive and obsolete. First of all, it is toxic from the beginning of the production chain to the very end. Uranium mining has sickened countless numbers of people, many of them Native Americans whose land is still contaminated with abandoned mines. No one has solved the problem of how to safely store nuclear waste, which remains deadly to all forms of life for much longer than all of recorded history. And the depleted uranium ammunition used by our military is now sickening people in the Middle East.
Nuclear power is dangerous. Accidents like Chernobyl and Fukushima create contaminated zones unfit for human settlement. They said Chernobyl was a fluke, until Fukushima happened just 5 years ago. What’s next - the aging Indian Point reactor 25 miles from New York City? After the terrorist attack in Brussels, we learned that terrorists had considered infiltrating Belgian nuclear plants for a future attack. And as sea levels rise, we could see more Fukushima-type situations with coastal nuke plants.
Finally, nuclear power is obsolete. It’s already more expensive per unit of energy than renewable technology, which is improving all the time. The only reason why the nuclear industry still exists is because the government subsidizes it with loan guarantees that the industry cannot survive without. Instead we need to invest in scaling up clean renewable energy as quickly as possible.

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w8t4u
w8t4u

@Lord_Tryzalot
How many degrees of global warming is it worth to exclude nuclear power from our energy mix? How many degrees? That is the question we should be asking at this point.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@w8t4u
We've gone past the point the point of no return. At this point we should be modeling where we can grow food in 50 years.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Lord_Tryzalot
Nuclear power is effecitively stopped. Thanks to people like you, we threw away our only viable way to make power without worsening global warming, all while the coal lobby has been benefiting from eco hippies who don't realize what's best for them. Solar is not enough, wind is not enough, so we need to use coal. What's more dangerous than nuclear? Coal is, and you gave them free reign.

StonedTime
StonedTime

https://www.snopes.com/photos/technology/fukushima.asp

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Lord_Tryzalot
Some russians fucked up nuclear power so people died, we can never do it again

Why is this considered a valid argument, while
Some russians fucked up communism so people died, we can never do it again
hasn't gained any ground?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Lord_Tryzalot
This is a Jill Stein reddit comment copy pasta

Flameblow
Flameblow

Fossil fuel power is dirty, dangerous, expensive and obsolete. First of all, it is toxic from the beginning of the production chain to the very end. Fracking has sickened countless numbers of people, many of them Native Americans whose land is still contaminated with abandoned mines. No one has solved the problem of how to stop plastic from acidifying the oceans, which remains deadly to all forms of life for much longer than all of recorded history. And we're literally waging endless wars and killing countless numbers of civilians trying to prop up the petro dollar

Thousands die each year from the toxic smog in the air from countless factories, power plants, and personal vehicles using fossil fuels. Major cities in Asia are practically unlivable from the smog, and it causes acid rain.

Finally, fossil fuel power is obsolete. It’s already more expensive per unit of energy than renewable technology, if you include our military expenditures. The only reason why the oil industry still exists is because the government subsidizes it with military might and laws to make it unreasonably expensive to produce superior forms of power such as nuclear. Instead we need to invest in scaling up nuclear energy as quickly as possible.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Burnblaze
solar is not enough wind is not enough
It depends on where you live. The United states has PLENTY of surface area and plains to meet all of our power needs using solar and wind. Im not saying it would be easy, the infrastructure isnt set up for it and building power plants isnt cheap. It is totally possible though.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Flameblow
OP got rekt.
Air pollution from fossil fuel burning has killed more people than nuclear ever has by a large margin. Even if you dont take into account the countless oil spills and wars, fossil fuels are way worse for the planet.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@CouchChiller
The problem is that you can't transport electricity perfectly with no loss and we can't store it perfectly with no lose. We can't just cover all of Nevada in panels and call it good because we get enough watts per day.

What if you need power in New York and it's been cloudy so solar panels weren't working? What if you need power at midnight?

There are a lot of highly populated places in the US where there frankly is NOT enough land that's close enough, unoccupied, and gets consistently enough sunlight to meet all power needs. And the same problems apply to wind power. You can't just set up a wind turbine and some solar panels literally anyplace and get a lot of power. This isn't SIM City.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Stupidasole
nuclear is literally the least deadly form of energy on the planet

main complaint about nuclear is that it's dangerious

really causes you to think

Skullbone
Skullbone

Fire is dirty, dangerous, expensive and obsolete. First of all, it is toxic from the beginning of the production chain to the very end. Flint bashing has harmed countless numbers of people, many of them local cavemen whose land is still contaminated with chips of stone. No one has solved the problem of how to safely store fire, which remains deadly to all forms of life for much longer than all of recorded history. And the ash used by our cave painters is now sickening people drinking from the cleaning pond.
Fire is dangerous. Accidents like the forest fire and the clearing fire create contaminated zones unfit for human settlement. They said the forest fire was a fluke, until the clearing fire happened just 5 years ago. What’s next - the old tree 25 feet from the cave? After the tribal attack in the next valley over, we learned that other tribes had considered starting nearby fires for a future attack. And as the ice age approaches, we could see more clearing fire-type situations with fire pits.
Finally, fire is obsolete. It’s already more expensive per unit of energy than raw meat, which is improving all the time. The only reason why the fire industry still exists is because the elders subsidize it with stories of healthier eating that the industry cannot survive without. Instead we need to invest in scaling up sharpening our teeth to tear apart raw meat as quickly as possible.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Lord_Tryzalot
You know what? You're right. I think we should go on to bigger and better things, like ramping up strip mining, firing up the ole' coal mines again, drilling and drilling and drilling some more, and maybe even go with gusto by cutting down trees just to burn them to turn turbines.

Chernobyl was a one-time reactor plant that was never used again as a floor plan, and Fukishima is literally a stones throw away from the most renowned seismically active tectonic plate in the world. Chernobyl was an understandable accident, but whatever convinced the japs to put a reactor where they did is beyond me. And yes, nuclear power plants are very high risk in times of war, but it is because of the number of countries have them that they are not targeted, being that MAD would ensue as soon as foul play was detected near a plant. Not to mention, plant security is pretty tight, so unless terrorists hit a plant with an immediate explosive and plan to play Fallout irl (provided they even survive), there are very little odds of success.

As mentioned earlier, solar efficiency is a joke, windmills are large, expensive, and not very consistent in terms of supply, hydroelectric dams take up a shit ton of space where the water collects and they require cleaning every few decades to clean out sediment build-up.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Lord_Tryzalot
muh Chernobyl
Kill yourself

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Skullbone
10/10 i love it.

Tell us about how math is an invention from the rivalling jew tribes to keep youngsters degenerate and not war hungry.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Jimmy Carter shuts down the program to reprocess and reuse nuclear fuel based on an assumption that doing so would end nuclear proliferation
Yucca Mountain is forever put on hold due to petty squabbles
"guess we don't know how to manage nuclear waste :DDD"

I really fucking hate being an American nuke guy, and it's a shame that ignorant idiots like OP have all the power

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Lord_Tryzalot
You fell for the big oil meme. Good job. Retard.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@CouchChiller
What is grid stability?

Are you aware that every single time that power production doesn't perfectly match demand we have to make adjustments foe it right? How do you power entire citties solely on an unreliable power source? I understand that wind and solar are useful but we have to have a way to regulate production. Current models of nuclear power plants do that more safely and more cost effectively than coal or fossil suel

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Garbage Can Lid
Thats why power companies charge big companies more for high demand at peak times. They literally have to start up more generators to match the load and it's expensive.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Anti nuclear fags are the fucking worst.

Hurr just build a gajillion Solar panels and batteries

PV cells and batteries are fucking terrible for the environment to produce and require increasingly scarce rare earth metals.

We just need LFTR reactors and problem is solved.

WebTool
WebTool

@SomethingNew
PV cells and batteries are fucking terrible for the environment to produce and require increasingly scarce rare earth metals.
PV cells aren't that bad to make, and don't require any rare-earth metals.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Lord_Tryzalot
@StonedTime
not measuring your radiation in centimeters

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Lord_Tryzalot
That image looks really scary, but then you realize the majority of it is radiation levels barely above background radiation and less than taking a long distance flight and stop caring.

WebTool
WebTool

@Lord_Tryzalot
Flood The World With A.I. Waifu

Scientists and Engineers don't research/create in order to BLOW THEMSELVES UP.

Rich people tell them to, and the Sci/Eng requires money to keep building new crazy shit.

Rich begets Power in this world, but they desire power because they feel they are without value or worth.

So, flood those guys with reverse-propaganda.

We should invert-meme and literally be nothing but HYPER-POSITIVE and just flood Trump and everyone/everything with positivity.

Basically, zerg-positive-vibe-rush.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRx4ZTfEqtM

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Garbage Can Lid
Just have GWh battery arrays, duh

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Lord_Tryzalot
Don't bother, most people aren't capable of having opinions beyond what they're told.

Change, and large scale population flux, is about herding the cattle. Modern systems of propaganda, "information" distribution, social engineering, and applied crowd psychology have completely locked down all avenues whereby an outsider could take the reins.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Poker_Star
mesmerize them with memes utilizing memerism.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Deadlyinx
the image looks scary but if you look carefully you will notice its a map of the wave height from the earthquake and has nothing to do with radiation

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@JunkTop
Spot on

askme
askme

@SomethingNew
I Think Because Intellectuals Says : "Communing? With Spirits? What Are You, Fucking Stupid? COMMUNE WITH THE COSMOS!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2lIhbL4vSQ

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