Really makes you think

happy_sad
happy_sad

billions of years of creatures becoming new creatures through "evolution"
humans start recording shit
everything stops evolving for some reason

really makes you think

All urls found in this thread:
http://www.darwinwasright.org/observations_speciation.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_mosquito
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nylon-eating_bacteria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_oleracea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q18hXaE-FpU
http://vixra.org/abs/1602.0132
https://warosu.org/sci/image/B8foJ98hgwZmA8M0WQ8kZw
Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@happy_sad
everything stops evolving

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Poker_Star
human guided artificial selection of crops
proof of evolution

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@SniperGod
Exactly! I'm glad you understand now.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@BlogWobbles
let me know when that watermelon becomes a peach :^)

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@happy_sad
@AwesomeTucker
How many hundreds of millions of years have you observed so far?

Illusionz
Illusionz

but we've seen animals evolving even in the short time humans have recorded history

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Illusionz
source?

inb4 slightly different bird beaks

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Supergrass
Peppered moth changing their coloration in reaction to changes in the environment caused by the industrial revolution

farquit
farquit

@Supergrass
Antibiotic resistant bacteria

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@happy_sad
1) "billions of years" have not passed since humans developed writing.
2) Look up 'Peppered Moth' and 'antibiotic resistant bacteria'.
It "really makes me think" about how retarded faggots like you feel comfortable talking about a subject you know nothing about.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Supergrass
You reverting back into a monkey

Methnerd
Methnerd

a moth changing color and bacteria's immune system improving is exactly equal to a fish growing legs and walking on land

the absolute state of evolutionary cucks

Emberfire
Emberfire

Adaptation is not evolution.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Supergrass
Sheep, cows, chickens, pigs, dogs, cats...
Shall we do plants? Let's do plants.
Corn, bananas (fun stuff, there), wheat, carrots, potatoes...
the list goes on.
Selective breeding IS evolution. Survival of the fittest demanded that those plants and animals yield to our wishes, resulting in what we see today.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Firespawn
Selective breeding IS evolution.
Except it's not.

WebTool
WebTool

@Firespawn
No it's not
Evolution implies speciation and we haven't really observed speciation anywhere (bacteria are kind of a grey area)

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@happy_sad
Why are you the way you are? honestly.
Everytime I have my hopes up, you or some flatearther completely shatters it without even trying.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Methnerd
@Emberfire
It is EXACTLY evolution. Adaptation of superior traits is EXACTLY what evolution is. Or do you think those traits always just disappear the next time they adapt to something?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@LuckyDusty
waaah why do opposing views exist?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@StonedTime
You aren't making any sense, user. No, adaptation to environment isn't evolution.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@WebTool
Yes we have, in many differen species and places.

http://www.darwinwasright.org/observations_speciation.html

Honestly I'm really curious as to what evidence you have that evolution doesn't happen.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@LuckyDusty
waah why do you question things instead of blindly believing everything you're taught like me

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@happy_sad
This is why we need to make intro to biology a required course for STEM, this is just embarrassing.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@AwesomeTucker
You're just listing more examples of adaptation. Are you retarded by any chance?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@BinaryMan
Evolution
(biology) change in the gene pool of a population from generation to generation by such processes as mutation, NATURAL SELECTION, and genetic drift.
Yes, it is. Evolution is the adaptation to environment over time.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Illusionz
Do you know the definition of adaptation and speciation? Cause I am pretty sure you don't.
Speciation is the evolutionary process by which populations evolve to become distinct species.
Adaptation is a change or the process of change by which an organism or species becomes better suited to its environment.

Speciation is the result of accumulated adaptations. Species is a very mutable concept but in the biological species concept a specie diverges into two separate species when they can no longer interbreed due to behavioral or genetic isolation.

Really though you are just a troll, but a lot of really smart people can make stupid decisions based on silly information trolls like you disseminate.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Lunatick
So we both agree that adaptation isn't speciation, and we haven't observed any speciation occur naturally. Okay.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Poker_Star
Selective breeding isn't evolution you retarded bastard. You can selectively breed a nigger and a white person and get some mulatto idiot - but the baby didn't fucking evolve from anything. You can't selectively breed a dog and a cat. You cant selectively breed an elephant and an ostrich. You can't selectively breed a chimp with a gorilla, or a human with either. You can't selectively breed a pig with a lion, a parrot with a pigeon, a snake with an eel, a shark with a marlin, a blue whale with a sperm whale, or a watermelon with a squash.

Are you honestly so fucking dumb you think mixing is related to evolution? If I pour red sugar powder into a glass of water and stir it, my fucking water didn't evolve into koolaid. If I combine white paint with blue paint and a little bit of green paint, my paint palette didn't fucking evolve into turquoise. If a red spotlight overlaps a blue spotlight, fucking magenta light isn't EVOLVING into existence.

Jesus everloving fuck you are such a retarded bastard that you think eugenics is related evolution. Gonna be honest with you, just because you weren't intelligently designed doesn't mean everything else wasn't. Don't choke to death on your swollen tongue.

girlDog
girlDog

@AwesomeTucker
I stand corrected, I wasn't saying evolution isn't true. But is reproductive isolation really the only requirement for speciation?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@MPmaster
Chill out dude, you're gonna aggravate your brain damage

cum2soon
cum2soon

@happy_sad
humans start recording shit (5000 years ago)

A billion years = 1000000000
5 thousand years = 5000

5000 / 1000000000 * 100 = 0.0005%

.0005% of evolutionary history. So why is it surprising that we would see so little during our limited period of time to observe? On top of that, humans are generally regarded as the sixth extinction event. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction

So it is really no surprise at all...

takes2long
takes2long

@Sir_Gallonhead
Yes we have, that list included several instances of speciation.

More so evolution =/= speciation. Evolution is change in a population over time due to selective forces. Even humans have evolved significantly with increases in height, penis size, and resistance to disease.

@MPmaster
The mechanism exploited by humans for selective breeding is evolution. It's like saying oxidation doesn't exist because humans just use combustion fuel in a gas tank for energy. Also your metaphors are weak, each of them dealing with single attribute items with no ability to change naturally.

likme
likme

@takes2long
Even humans have evolved significantly with increases in height, penis size, and resistance to disease.
Are you fucking kidding me...

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@takes2long
Is it really evolution when it's artificial selection? It's not at all like what usually happens. And there's the species problem.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Hey guise, from now on evolution just means growing up. We can now observe evolution naturally.

Checkmate.

Techpill
Techpill

Actually we've forcibly evolved dogs and livestock pretty incredibly over a short period of time

Also some crops, insanely

TreeEater
TreeEater

@takes2long
evolution =/= speciation
wrong

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Poker_Star
Sure, why wouldn't it be? Humans are an animal acting on their environment - how is it different?.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@RavySnake
Except it's not
Except it is

Evolution is change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.

That. Is. All.

Evilember
Evilember

@likme
Well... I don't know about the penis stuff...
But we are certainly taller. Over 150 years, humans in industrialized countries have gotten about 4 inches taller. And people in the Netherlands used to be really short in the 19th century, but now they're really tall.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@takes2long
Nah, you're just fuckin stupid. You can selectively breed a purebred husky with a purebred pomeranian despite both lineages being removed from each other by 300 years and having no similar traits beyond being fluffy dogs, or a purebred labrador with a purebred poodle despite 500 years of seperation and significantpy different traits between these examplea of dogs compared to darwins misinterpretation of finches. Mixing has nothing to do with evolution.

@haveahappyday
I'm only aggravating your own.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@DeathDog
@GoogleCat
Evolution is not a 'view'. You don't have a choice in believing in it any more that you have a choice in believing that the earth circles the sun. If you had ever read a book you'd know that.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

breed horse with donkey
get infertile mule
"mules evolve from horses and donkies"
I can't wait til Apple ID starts incorporating genetic analysis to unlock your phone so we can selectively prevent all you mongs from accessing the internet

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

The thing about dog breeds is that these aren't evidence of evolution. They're evidence of mixing. You can only mix dogs with other dogs, so you have to have dogs in the first place. Same goes for humans. Humans can't breed with anything other than other humans, not even apes or chimps that otherwise appear extremely similar to humans. Why? Because humans and apes are unrelated. Humans and apes have always existed, unrelated, as different creatures created by God. One didn't evolve into the other, nor was selectively bred from the other. Humans could only ever breed with other humans, so there always had to be humans in the first place, and same goes for every other walk of life and species. Most if not all dog breeds are domesticated mixes. Many have different traits, attitudes, aptitudes, purposes, but they can still crossbreed because they are the same walk of life, just like a large skull, flat faced white person can breed with the smaller skulled, jutting jawed, monkey-like black-skinned subhumans, where whites have been selectively bred for their features and blacks selectively bred for their obedience. None of this says one creature can, over time, transform into an entirely different creature. There is no way humans will ever spontaneously or over-time develop wings for flying as Angels, or fish tails like Mermaids through breeding. No way for a fish to develop arms and legs. No way for a lizard to develop feathers. No way for any of these creatures to crossbreed and introduce the beneficial mutation to each other's species.
Fish beget fish beget fish beget fish, ad infinitum. Dogs beget dogs, apes beget apes, humans beget humans, and god begat them all different.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

ITT: retardation

Snarelure
Snarelure

@happy_sad
why isnt billions of years of evolution available for me to observe in a 3 minute you-tube clip?

Jesus would laugh at you if he knew how dumb you are.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@kizzmybutt
If evolution were real there shoud have been a speciation or mutation difference for coastal cultures by now that lead them to develop webbed fingers and toes to be more apt at swimming, yet no such trait exists specifically unique to ancient or modern coastal people. The structure of human form has in fact never changed, and anything resembling a chamge through mutation of extra limbs or conjoined digits has never been beneficial, resulting in childhood death before passing on the gene, infertility from passing on the gene, or submissive trait where fertility doesn't pass on the gene to be represented.

All things that should point towards evolution simply do not.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Playboyize
yet no such trait exists
It's a radical technology known as "Boat." Turns out technology can respond to environmental problems faster than waiting for random mutation and sexual selection to take a few hundred generations for a specific trait that's not actually that useful outside of anon's overly specific hypothetical situation.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@CodeBuns
You're implying humans have used boats before discovering fire, and not realizing you're implying it.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@happy_sad
recording
Technology we've had for less than 200yrs
stops evolving
Evolution happens over thousands of years

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Playboyize
a species HAS to gain traits related to their environment even if they aren't necessary or beneficial

Emberburn
Emberburn

@TreeEater
Well, if you don't believe in evolution sure.
If you do believe in evolution, you're parodying yourself.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@TreeEater
So did darwins finches ever change into anything but finches?

Illusionz
Illusionz

If evolution produces large changes over large amounts of time, why do we only see it producing small changes over small amounts of time?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Playboyize
Why do you think the body shape of eskimos is so different from that of sub-saharian africans?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@SniperWish
Fuckingretard.com

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@happy_sad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_mosquito

Methshot
Methshot

@MPmaster
You can selectively breed a nigger and a white person
You can't selectively breed a chimp with a gorilla, or a human with either

Which one is it?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@MPmaster
You can't selectively breed a pig with a lion
Of course you can't, and evolution tells us why you can't. Don't call people dumb when you're dumb enough to argue against an idea you know nothing about.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Itt retards say "selectively breed"

MPmaster
MPmaster

You motherfuckers need Jesus

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@happy_sad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nylon-eating_bacteria

Get cucked

Inmate
Inmate

@happy_sad
Holy shit, have they even infiltrated Veeky Forums?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@MPmaster
wtf is this post

Techpill
Techpill

and I fuck a nigga bitch
never went to school cause I was always from the bricks

Firespawn
Firespawn

@MPmaster
Veeky Forums.org/sci/

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Evilember
Dude I agree with you but you're making all the wrong arguments. The height difference in humans is easily explainable due to dietary enhancement, not necessarily selective pressures (although there definitely are some of those too)

cum2soon
cum2soon

@AwesomeTucker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_oleracea

Brassica oleracea is a plant species that includes many common foods as cultivars, including cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, kale, Brussels sprouts, collard greens, savoy, kohlrabi, and gai lan

King_Martha
King_Martha

@whereismyname
Not an argument.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@MPmaster
How's the weather in Retardistan?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Supergrass
Fish in many seas have halved in size over just a few generations due to overfishing. Only those that were small enough to swim out of the net procreated.

I think you just don't know what evolution actually means.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@MPmaster
The traits of watermelons change from the exterior influence of humans
A habitat cannot influence a species similarly
Wew lad, take a breather and get back to me

viagrandad
viagrandad

@SniperGod
Well, I was sure in favour of evolution being a reasonable theory. But your lack of cognitive skills makes me think that evolution is wrong, God made us all and in your case simply mixed the parts wrong.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Playboyize
I didn't know that coastal cultures literally live in the water. Oh wait, they don't.

I am beginning to think that there are people in this thread who cannot think for themselves at all, instead only parroting some bullshit they read on some flat earth society website.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@SniperGod
Not yet. But they evolved from dinosaurs

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@happy_sad
Humans have been recording for <500 years.
Billions of years.

1000000000/500=2000000

Because we have been recording for one two-millionth of history.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@happy_sad
ITT: What happens when people think that evolution is some kind of driving force that rivals god instead of a mere consequence.

If retarded Darwinists didn't mythologize the whole issue of evolution to the point where a casual popsci reader thinks evolution is an actual entity that mutates animals in a precise manner to make them more suitable for an environment we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@AwesomeTucker
Okay I call the 1st one a watermelon and the 2nd one a peach. the names mean nothing :^). something changed into something else which is what evolution is. shift the goal posts all you want you won't convince anyone.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@SomethingNew
Evolution is not mutation.
The watermelon doesnt change into a different fruit. Its still a watermelon. It can still crossbred with what watermelons uses to be. Its the same walk of life.

Take a whippet and get back to me.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Bidwell
Dinosaurs were killed by a meteor. Any not killed by the meteor directly would have died from beig cold blooded and the sun being blotted out, no access to meat, or both.

You can't have your cake and eat it too, so which is it. Dinosaurs evolved into birds or a meteor killed the dinosaurs

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@cum2soon
Oh i'm sorry werent the retards in this thread trying to prove that beneficial mutations have nothing to do wit environment? Better go watch some old reruns of bill nye and neglect suicide for one more day.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@DeathDog
meteor killed the dinosaurs
yeah the big stupidly huge ones
dinosaurs evolved into bird
yeah the small raptors did infact evolve into birds

yfw

viagrandad
viagrandad

@MPmaster
He unironically believes this

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@GoogleCat
Cold blooded animals require heat, among food, to survive. Meteor big enough to kill the big dinosaurs would have covered the sky in debris and blotted out the sun. Goodbye heat. Goodbye little dinos.

Here's a better idea to wrinkle your babysmooth brain, what happened to all the great ocean dinosaurs? Why did they die out?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@PurpleCharger
Are you someone else or are you now contradicting your own argument? Please elaborate on what you mean here.

Mutations themselves are random, but those that give an advantage are passed on (their carriers are sexually successful). They are not beneficial in and of themselves but only on relation to the environmental pressures. How is this hard to understand?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Lord_Tryzalot
So you believe leaf and stick insects just happened to end up looking that way via random mutations that were beneficial...

RavySnake
RavySnake

Really makes you think is my meme from the Benghazi video.

Who edited the talking points? (Benghazi?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q18hXaE-FpU
Also, everything relevant about evolution is in my paper

The Truth About Evolution
http://vixra.org/abs/1602.0132

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@haveahappyday
@haveahappyday
Cold blooded animals require heat, among food, to survive. Meteor big enough to kill the big dinosaurs would have covered the sky in debris and blotted out the sun. Goodbye heat. Goodbye little dinos.
Most species died, but not all species. The ones that survived were the more adaptable ones that didn't need large amounts of resources.

Here's a better idea to wrinkle your babysmooth brain, what happened to all the great ocean dinosaurs? Why did they die out?
Are you retarded? The ocean is an incredibly delicate and interconnected ecosystem. Extreme cooling and loss of sunlight is just as devastating to the food chain in the ocean as on land. We don't just see large species going extinct in the K-Pg boundary, but also several species of plankton. Not to mention that volcanic activity was causing extreme ocean acidification even before the meteor struck.

You are quite literally the dumbest poster on Veeky Forums. Your posts are trash without exception.

https://warosu.org/sci/image/B8foJ98hgwZmA8M0WQ8kZw

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Stupidasole
ocean acidification
Oh its this retard again.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@MPmaster
I-is this satire?

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