Is suicide always a sign of philosophical weakness?

Is suicide always a sign of philosophical weakness?

I don't understand why so many people are reluctant to die regardless of how worthless their life becomes and how little they enjoy being alive.

I don't ask to be edgy. I just feel like life gets worse and worse, and that my own capacity to appreciate let alone enjoy being alive has diminished to the point where a major overhaul of my value system and perspective is required if I'm to wake up each day and look forward to the future.

Things have gone downhill in the past couple of years but I know one of the reasons I haven't snapped completely is that I'm still relatively young and still riding that youthful optimism train which dictates that my relatively youthful appearance and the fact I have a job means I am ideologically secure and may still have the potential to live a life that seems worthwhile to me.

But really my instincts are now encouraging me to give up and quit playing along and do what I know is ultimately right before I reach the point where all that sustains my existence is fear and loyalty to routine.

Any response please? Any books on this matter?

Sorry for the long post.

I sabotaged my life for years to drive me to self murder. I learned that God doesn't play fair.

What do you mean? What happened?

No. There is no single view of suicide. I just picked up a book called "the ethics of suicide" and only started reading today, but I think you might like it. It's a collection of widely varied (in space and time) sources dealing with different conceptions and perspectives of suicide, but the quick rundown given in the editor's intro was basically to the effect that different cultures and time periods have had wildly different ideas on the matter, as regards suicide being a private vs social issue, a strong vs weak decision, laudable vs criminal, etc. More specifically with respect to your question, it was pointed out that only since Freud/the early days of psychoanalysis has suicide been considered as resulting from a psychological "fault" or "illness," rather than any of the other social, political, cultural, private, and very possibly dispassionately-reasoned justifications for suicide.

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>Is suicide wrong, profoundly morally wrong? Almost always wrong, but excusable in a few cases? Sometimes morally permissible? Imprudent, but not wrong? Is it sick, a matter of mental illness? Is it a private matter or a largely social one? Could it sometimes be right, or a "noble duty," or even a fundamental human right? Whether it is called "suicide" or not, what role may a person play in the end of his or her own life? This collection of primary sources--the principal texts of ethical interest from major writers in western and nonwestern cultures, from the principal religious traditions, and from oral cultures where observer reports of traditional practices are available, spanning Europe, Asia, the Middle East, Africa, Oceania, the Arctic, and North and South America--facilitates exploration of many controversial practical issues: physician-assisted suicide or aid-in-dying; suicide in social or political protest; self-sacrifice and martyrdom; suicides of honor or loyalty; religious and ritual practices that lead to death, including sati or widow-burning, hara-kiri, and sallekhana, or fasting unto death; and suicide bombings, kamikaze missions, jihad, and other tactical and military suicides. This collection has no interest in taking sides in controversies about the ethics of suicide; rather, rather, it serves to expand the character of these debates, by showing them to be multi-dimensional, a complex and vital part of human ethical thought.

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Thanks for the rec.

>Is suicide always a sign of philosophical weakness?

No, it's a sign of profoundly unhealthy lifestyle.

People rarely act based on what their philosophy is. Most edgy fuckers that preach nihilism tend to be rather nice and happy people. And many of those that kill themselves tend to think it's cowardly, or a sin, or whatever.

If your life is getting worse and worse, you're probably not dealing with your problems. Stop reading philosophy and start interacting with the things that are making you miserable. It goes without saying that you need to stop being delusional if your thinking is along the lines of, "There's nothing to fix, I just can't see a point to living."

A mentally healthy human being shouldn't want to die.

Ask yourself the following question:

1) Am I spending my day the way I want to, or am I studying shit I couldn't care less about and/or working a shitty job when I could work an easy part-time one and live on less?
2) Am I single? If not, am I just in an unhealthy relationship that I'm unwilling to disentangle myself from for fear of being single? Are there a lot of people in my life that are making me miserable?
3) Am I eating well, exercising, and getting enough sleep? Do I smoke, drink, do drugs, or have any kind of corrosive habit?

And if you have none of those issues, it could just be that your parents gave you some shitty-ass genes that are making you predisposed to depression, in which case you should seek psychiatric treatment.

Fuck this stupid long post, I'm not reading this shit even to find out if there's an apology for the length at the end.

This seems like sound advice.

No, the rejection of consciousness is the ultimate truth.

>rejection of consciousness

The ultimate red pill desu.