Why do people expect high tips?

I mean I understand the Chinese food delivery guy rushing over here, profusely sweating over my meal and giving him MAYBE 4 dollars if not 3, but do people who work for chains that CHARGE for delivery expect higher than 10% or a 2 dollar tip for driving their fat ass 10 minutes away?

The tipping system has made it to where servers try to hold good service hostage. >If you don't give me 20%+ I'll spit in your food!

But why are they charging for delivery for places now?
A pizzeria or Chinese food place NEVER charges for delivery, but a chain pizza or takeout place surcharges 3 fucking dollars. That's literally the tip right there.

>the entire institution of tipping is retarded
Gee, who knew.

Nope, we never see any of that and I don't think I ever learned what it was for. I guess for the cartop signs.

I know you guys don't see any of it, but it's not like I'm rich to throw money away and pay for peoples lives either. Gonna have to be happy with your salary.

Only cucks tip.

This is only true if you're left wing garbage who thinks unions should demand a livable minimum wage. Right wing gentlemen enjoy giving tips, because they know it is the glue that holds society together and sometimes gets them some really young pussy for a reasonable price.

If you're poor why are you buying delivery food? Even with an employee discount I hardly ever bought food from where I worked because it was a massive ripoff.

For a laugh I go on waitress forums to read about their worst experiences. I despise those entitled shits.

Because I'd like to enjoy some fast food one every several months. Now I'm not allowed to enjoy some food because someone needs 10 fucking dollars lmao

Suggest some waitress forums?

Sure is /pol here. Only fuckers without money can't tip.

Some what?

Satan's right again.

Sorry I meant actually.

>self-entitled wait-staff baby

Tipping is not obligatory nor should it be compulsory. Tipping is a cancer and an insult to the good trust and respect which should exist between people in a social setting - not a hostage situation where some brat can potentially cause you illness by tampering with your food or ruin your night out because for the difficult task of walking a meal over to you they think they deserve a tremendous gratuity.

It's actually the restaurant owner who is holding you hostage. They underpay their employees with the explicit expectation that you'll pay the difference even though the true costs of the business (including the employees' need to survive) is not honestly represented in the prices they charge.

She's obviously only getting lots of tips because she's hot, I'd like so he how many tips an uggo gets

So what? It's the same thing with prostitutes the hot ones make more than the ugly ones so why not with food service?

If I was paying extra because the waitress is cute, I better get sucked off after the meal. Bitch better swallow too.

Yeah, it is obvious. Because he wrote "you're beautiful" right on the receipt. But good smarts though user.

I'm sorry that you don't get pleasure simply from pleasing hotties. It's one of the basic impulses, and there's no reason not to indulge it as long as you're not spending more than you can afford.

the absolute state of male psychology

Being attractive does not improve the quality of service

Here we see the cuck in its native state, compounded and rendered Machiavellian by programmed social submissiveness.

Rhonda is a CUNT

Shitty falseflag

>If you don't give me 20%+ I'll spit in your food!
and how would you know what i'm going to tip you before i pay at the end of the meal?
do euros really pay before eating?
backwards ass fucks.

Weak bate, mate.

Papa John's has people put in the tip as you order. I am used to writing the tip on the receipt, so I accidentally didn't tip once. Wrote 5$ on the receipt for tip that they never took out. My pizza tasted like trash and the female delivery person just walked off on me.
Next time I put the tip in, got good quality pizza and it's been friendly make delivery people.

i started doing this thing where i only tip one time every 4 meals but i leave a great tip
if i gave 4 regular tips they would just have taken them for granted and thought i was cheap for not giving them enough free money, this way i make one waitress really happy and three waitress think about the quality of the service they provide

Nah people who get tips are paid underwage, youre just a greedy autistic manchild.

>"ugh my job is soooo hard"
>"I deserve more"
>meanwhile the cooks in the back are literally slaving for half the pay getting yelled at by the sous chef non stop

>people who get tips are paid underwage
That's illegal.

If they didn't want to get "underpaid" they should not have a shitty job.

>I actually believe what CNN tells me because the news never lies.
>We need a "living wage" of $15 dollars/hr and all things I like should be free.

>Nah people who get tips are paid underwage
but that's a lie, mr. one of the god's chosen peepole

Yeah, the business that relies on their existence has no need to ensure that they continue existing.

Things that are demonstrably true by practice in most of the world are not true in the USA. The USA is such magic!

>Yes, I'd like to tip the Chef

>America
Land of opportunity!

Tipping was literally created to keep pseudo-slavery around after the Civil War. By not tipping you are advocating slavery.

By not tipping I'm more an abolitionist.

its pretty much the same cooked up jewry as the "maintenance" fee in banks. Fuckers are just literally stealing your money and making up an excuse to do so. Fucking hell

You got that backwards

What's more bullshit is the driver never even sees that money. The company just pockets the money and acts like the driver gets that as some form of gratuity. Fucking bastards.

This.

They literally state that its not a gratuity and that the driver doesn't get it. You mong. Get a real job if you don't like it.

>Gosh, don't you see? You HAVE to tip, us poor waiters/waitresses only get paid 2 bucks an hour! It's modern day slavery! We need to eat too, do you want us to STARVE?!!??

That same waiter/waitress later that same day

>Ho bro dude oh man I made like 400 bucks today off tips

This is trash and I hate it

ok so what is the fee for then?

The minimum wage for tipped employees varies, but in many places it’s less than half the regular minimum wage. Legally employers are supposed to keep track of tips, and make up the difference if the tips added to the lower minimum wage, don’t make up the difference between the tipped minimum wage and the regular minimum wage. A huge % of employers don’t actually do this, and won’t make up the difference if you come up short. The IRS also has estimates of what percentage a tipped employee should be making in tips, and might fine the tipped employee even hey didn’t actually make that percentage in tips. Basically the tipped employee can get screwed from both ends with little recourse. Some restaurant owners have been prosecuted, and fined, or sued by their employees, but usually it’s only restauranteurs with deep pockets like Mario Batali. If you’re a tipped employee and you get screwed on tips by the customers, and wages by your employers, you either fucking quit, starve, or take shit out on both the customer and employer.
Customers who tip well get extra large pours or service. Customers who tip poorly get shit service or small proportions.
Employers get shit workers, or the stock at the bar or restaurant will “shrink”.
If an employee is pais as a tipped employee, they’re essentially the equivalent of a “mercenary”, and mercenaries get paid either thru the generosity of their employers or thru keeping booty or tribute for themselves.

Liability, cost of employing you're dumb ass and profit

do you tip the mcdonalds drive thru guy? or the guy bagging your groceries?

tipping is retarded and cucked plus it enables people to work for shit wages

>not wanting to have attractive people around you at all times IRL
If you want to just ejaculate go masturbate to porno
>pleasing hotties
Ok, you might be taking it a little too far
MGTOW detected

>yuo haet wimmin if yuo dont chivalrously throw extra high tip at them at diner for beein pritty!
So, how's that love life coming Elliott?

Protip: The waitress will still be there whether you creepily overbribe her to be or not.

They let you use the internet, Paddock?

fuck off beta right winger fag, we all know the tips you'd like to get

where i live, there is no seperate minimum wage for tipped employees so tips are only given for good service

also where i work tips are split between FOH and BOH

explain to me why this isn't a good system

I don't need a love life when I have a sister
>overbribe
All you have to do is tip normal accepted rates if they're attractive, and undertip if they're not. It sorts itself out because uggos aren't drawn to waitressing to begin with so you just need to do your part and help weed them out. By never tipping all you're doing is getting your food spat in

>normal accepted rates
What's considered a "normal accepted rate" these days?

30%

20% would be considered standard for normal quality service unless you live in like, West Jesusville Alabama

You don't put a few coins in the thing for the guys bagging your groceries?

>burgers are tipping for everything now
Get it together guys

Love how the cuck gene in america is so strong they are glad to pay the employees so that the poor company does not have to, maybe you will pay their taxes in due time too

Hmm wait you do that too

>They underpay their employees
yeah because food servers are totally the only ones who make minimum wage

>20%
They aren’t even doing 20% of the work!

>call in for a sandwich at dominos
>drive over, go in, and pay
>first thing the card reader prompts me to do is select the amount I'd like to tip
Eat a dick

Mcdicks here has a tip jar at the pickup window and the counter inside. Staffed with descendants of organic farm equipment naturally

I always tip at minimum $5, otherwise I feel like it's a trivial amount of money to even bother

>The absolute state of amerimutts
If you have a pantagruelic law system for tips and how to regolarize them, simply cut off the knot and make a law that gives actual minimum wage and be done with it!
It's almost like you enjoy this barbaric costume.
If I am a waiter (and I was in my teenage years) I must earn tips by doing a good work, not simply because i exist. Fucking idiots that never knew sweat on their brow now want to be paid because their work is shitty

You ordered there a 2nd time? Fuck that place.

tipping threads are not actually about food or cooking
but they are an invitation to shitposting

repeat after me:
GOD FORBID YOU DO YOUR JOB

In my store we weren't allowed to accept tips and would get reprimanded if we took them

Serving for is not supposed to be a career. Every job out there is not supposed to be a "living wage."
These jobs are for transitioning kids out of high school. They do this work to learn a skill or while they go to school.
You're not supposed to stop at the first job you get after graduating senior yr and then that's your life forever.

Ugly ones charge as much as hot one’s thinking theyre worth the $200.

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This is now a weenuts thread!

When I delivered, it was a Chinese food place, they didn't have a delivery fee, but they did pay me $1 gas money for each delivery.
That fee covers that expense, and other costs too. It probably covers the drivers wages mainly. If they didn't deliver they wouldn't hire them.

It kind of does. I would rather be waited on by a hot college girl than some fat 50 year old ugly short guy.

I hate tipping culture. I'm not american but in my country there is a tipping not included policy in many restaurants. I'm stingy as fuck, but if I'm paying for a 30 dollar steak or ramen bowl don't expect me to tip you. Ask you reach employer for a raise instead.

>I'm sorry that you don't get pleasure simply from pleasing hotties. It's one of the basic impulses
The sheer creepiness of this cuck mantra made my heart skip a beat.

It's plain extortion. In Mexico there are many restaurants who ask for a tipping quota to their staff. They always ask you to tip to help them gain a little money. In other words, repair their bosses corrupt system. Fuck ir.

Cringe

Wtf accent were you going for there?
And what culture has Elliott as a stereotypical name with any kind of accent?

>driving their fat ass 10 minutes away
Why don't you get off your fat ass and go pick it up?

>Right wing """gentlemen"""
>getting pussy ever
Nice one Elliott Rodgers, almost got me.

Fuck off, cook here, when customers do that, it’s the fucking best

The more reason a tip should be symbolic. Why would I need to pay 20 to 30% what i consumed for a high schooler who will probably buy weed wuth that money?
If you need a living wage, get another job, if you don't need it, then you don't need the tip

>maybe you will pay their taxes in due time too
>Hmm wait you do that too
criminally underrated

>i can't afford a car working for normal wage
>they can despite making below minimum
this is why i don't tip

>Serving for is not supposed to be a career. Every job out there is not supposed to be a "living wage."
This assumes everyone can get a job that offers a living wage, which isn't true. Even if everyone was a smart, hard working person.

don't bother with him. It's always the same kind of faggot making this shit argument. Also a black belt in corporate dick sucking.

We have a restaurant here, pretty nice, nothing too fancy but better than chain restaurants.
You walk in and grab a menu, order at the counter, they give you a cup to fill up your own drink, and buzzer to get your own food when its ready. Literally the only human you interact with, is the girl taking your order.
Big ole tip line on the recipe sends me over the edge, the food is really good, but I don't go back there because of that alone. I don't even tip when I did go, but the I won't give them business.

>A tip jar would be less offensive to the customers doing their jobs than a tip line on the receipt.

>This assumes everyone can get a job that offers a living wage
k, if you don't have one work harder, not get tipped. dog eat dog world not communism

>You're not supposed to stop at the first job you get after graduating senior yr and then that's your life forever.
Why not? And who gets to decide what you're "supposed" to do or not?

You completely ignored my question and offered nothing of substance.