Anyone else living the Veeky Forumserary lifestyle?

Fags should kill themselves anyways

>Get BA in English
>Literally nobody wants to hire me, not even as an intern who works for 40$ a week
>Get into trades
>Pull my back
>Get into welding technology
>Become a welder during summers
>Should be earning 40-60k starting when I'm done my technology program

I scorn both blue collar and white collar wagies. I don't fit in anywhere. I'm sexually unfulfilled--despite being relatively handsome, tall, and fit.

I honestly think god is punishing me for something--I wish he made it clear what...

Does he want me to delete my 300gbs of porn? Like wtf God, that's all I have left to live for...

Nice Pasta. Needs a little tweeking though.

You are obviously a fool who watches from a safe distance and pretends to understand those who remind you that your life is no different from anyone else's. Any artist goes where their work leads them, but how would you know that? I'll admit that you're right, I brought all my suffering upon myself by deciding not to compromise my ideals. Satisfaction is more precious than happiness.

Are you children or swine to be ignorant of the beautiful and virtuous nature of a deep love shared between two men? Maybe you just haven't been with enough women to realize that they are all various shades of vanity. I envy the gay.

Im so jelly really. Currently studying towards a STEM degree and cant do much reading due to pretending to be social.

Are you a fedora enthusiast perchance?
Also
>MUH IDEALSSS

You are destined for a life in crime, but not petty crime.

Reminds me of Job, but way more pathetic. You feel that disgusting creature part of you? Yeah, you need to cut it off, from your spirit. And most people are apprehensive to cut something of themselves off and separate from a vice, because it's tantamount to losing a part of their identity, something they've unfortunately invested time or effort into, something that may wither certain social ties and leave them feeling alienated or ostracized; but all that these have in common is that, cutting off a part of yourself is painful.

But you must prune the witheres branches to give the rest of the tree the ability to grow and nourish rather than allow the decay to spread. You can feel the disgust in that certain part of your person. That part that says, all you have to live for is a collection of cheap Internet porn. But what's worse than having to depart from your old self that you've invested into, is to continue wasting investment into that very thing that makes you sick. Cut it off I say, and cut off every withering branch that you see nagging at your emotional and spiritual welfare, and you will be closer to developing into the upright person and may manifest some sort of fulfillment, even if that fulfillment is as little as from thereon being able to enjoy the simplicities of life without an underlying guilt or narcissism or greed or sloth or neurotic baggage weighing you down.

Words of wisdom from our resident gay NEET virgin student

Are you serious? It's a painting.

is this Veeky Forums?

>despite being relatively handsome, tall, and fit.
Sure you are.

FegFAG!

What do you mean?

>Are you children or swine to be ignorant of the beautiful and virtuous nature of a deep love shared between two men? Maybe you just haven't been with enough women to realize that they are all various shades of vanity. I envy the gay.

I can definitely tell you're not gay. You're shockingly ignorant. Gays are vapid, hedonistic sluts who don't care about love or devotion. All that matters is finding their next disease ridden cock.

delay suicide until you're 50, life only starts to decisively go downhill after that age

>Are you children or swine to be ignorant of the beautiful and virtuous nature of a deep love shared between two men?
No one cares if you love men. People call you a fag because of your pseud "let's play being an artist" persona.

What any good psychiatrist would tell you is: you need to find the happiness within yourself. I know that sounds new-agey, but it's true. Since you have a B.A. in English, maybe you'd find fulfillment in teaching? Do you like helping out people? You can become a social worker. You need to do A job ... but you should find one you don't despise waking up for every day. Welding is not for someone who has most like studied the Classics.

As for the pornography ... that's a lot of gigs. Don't delete them, but try to meet someone on Match (not Tinder)

That sounds like a nightmare. Really? Or are you just homophobic?

I realize that I might be idealizing what it could be, but when I read that a man like Tchaikovsky was gay, I can't help but think that there are some who turn to men not only because of a physical attraction, but because they long for more than what women can offer. I've met the vapid and hedonistic sluts and treated them like brothers of course, but they seemed no different than women. But like I said, it's a fantasy and I'm already used to disappointment--there's nothing to lose in hoping.

I'm 25 now. The idea of another 25 years is sickening regardless of what comes out of my work. Whether it's uphill or downhill, it's still a dull walk.

I know, it's pretty gay.

You seem to be to be going down a steady path. Maybe you'll start to feel like you fit in once you start on a welding job. Make sure to set some money aside with every paycheck so you can bail anytime you feel like it.

Also you know that it is a sin to look at pornography. If you are serious about the idea of God punishing you, work on abstaining from all things that are forbidden to us. All good things come from God; all bad things come from us.

I'm too busy working in a factory to live the Veeky Forums life.
Hell I barely drink now.

I barely have time to read my books

The "literary lifestyle" is a lie that failures tell themselves when they never take off.

Focus on actually writing meaningful literature and less on putting on flairs.

>literary lifestyle
The literary lifestyle is sitting your ass down and writing/rewriting. All the rest is pretend play.

>ITT assholes

I'm gay and I swear I'll fuck each and every one of you dorks up. You're just mad because every writer of any value was either gay or bisexual, and you're a vagina-cuck robotically following your genetic commands to reproduce.

>lifelong retail cuck
>no real personal relationships, incapable of sharing real personal connections because my social persona was developed in customer service environments
>my only friends have drifted away and are living more fulfilling lives than me, so much so that I don't want to reestablish contact with them
>too socially underdeveloped to connect with people my age, can't relate to younger people any either
I'm not living the literary lifestyle but I doubt it would be any better. I thought a life of isolation would be fine but when you're forced to be surrounded by people all the time, it's impossible not to desire a connection with them.

Good writers often have feminine sensibilities - no matter how macho some try to appear - but the vast majority aren't gay user.

>every writer of any value was either gay or bisexual

*takes deep breath*
>Dante
>Dostoyevsky
>Tolstoy
>Joyce
>Mailer
>Kafka
>Chekhov
>Poe
>Nabokov
>Faulkner
>Eliot
>Pound
>Yeats
>Keats
>Coleridge
etc. etc. etc.

All straight. I'll give you Byron and Hemingway.

I spend 90% of my time reading, masturbating and shitposting. I don't understand life. Is just not for me.

You do realize than being gay will irrevocably involve getting fucked in the ass, or fucking some hairy ass, right?
I'd take 50 shades of vanity, thank you very much.

>found job in tiny dusty unorganized used book store
>just read or shitpost on Veeky Forums while getting drunk
>0 customers for most hours of the day
>for the customers who do turn up I make fun of their choices
>manager oblivious to how much is store sucks because he's old and brain dead

Stop drinking, respect your damn employer, and if you have free time at your job, use it to read/write.

Man, are you for real? You apparently spend a good bit of time entertaining gay fantasies and are giving this other guy a lecture on the sinfulness of pornography? Get your shit together.

>tfw Veeky Forums uni neet

>uni
Do you know what neet stands for?

Not currently in... OP sounds like he has finished university and isn't in education or training anymore, but he's not employed either. Hence, he's a...

I didn't realize how dysfunctional my life is until I read this and identified with almost every part.

I can see how that might seem hypocritical, but you have to understand that I only entertain the virtuous aspects of a gay relationship. Whether it's with a man or woman, fornication is a sin, but aren't we all sinners? I suppose it would have to reach that point eventually, I just prefer not to sully a fantasy with any base considerations. It is an exclusive brotherly love that I dream of; a relationship that is more spiritual and intellectual than physical. If the price of such a perfect thing is sin, then one can only pray for forgiveness.

I've heard that the pleasure is unparalleled.

They would only disillusion and disappoint you friend. The desire for a connection is natural, but it goes away if you can realize that you'd be forming one with people who can offer you infinitely less than books. I've met people like you before and a lot of them eventually latch on to the first person who shows them any attention. Be careful this doesn't happen to you. Better to be alone, miserable, and free than with someone else, miserable, and bound.

It's comforting to know that you're out there.

Some of them were probably bisexual or at least had a gay hook up or two.But yeah especially Hemingway who was hot for F. Scott Fitzgerald.

but then you have:

>Rimbaud
>Proust
>Plato
>Basho
>Rumi
>Mishima
>Ginzburg
>Whitman
>Burroughs
>Mann
etc. etc. etc.

You have to admit that gay writers can hold their own with the rest, or does that hurt your fragile punk ass heterosexual ego?
etc etc etc

Stop it. I spent years thinking that's what writing was about. I'm just now digging myself out of that hole, and I'm actually writing worthwhile stuff now. It's dumb as fuck to live this way. Stop.

>another gay man who thinks every man is gay

wew user

>he hasn't taken the prostate pill

What do you mean? Do you not realize that to devote yourself to writing, you have to set yourself in an environment that inspires you and gives you the time you need to work? Cafes are conducive for productivity; poverty is to be expected when you give your time to something that yields nothing; happiness is impossible to maintain without the compromise of ambition. Do you understand? This sort of lifestyle is the result of a sincere devotion to art. Of course it's not what writing is about; it's the life most dedicated writers have to lead for a while as they work and hope. If I could live in my parents' suburban house around people who can't get through a conversation without mentioning Game of Thrones and still be productive, I would not move. But I work better when I am surrounded by interesting people and novelty. It is just a shame that one must suffer just to find an inspirational place to live.

If you're writing worthwhile stuff now, it's because you've improved with practice. It might come easier to you. Some of us need to do a little more.

Sex doesn't have anything to do with the quality of words that are put on the page. Judge writers by the quality of their work. Who gives a fuck if the authors of a work like vagina or cock. Why would you even care about the personal life of writers? This isn't supposed to be about hero worship.

They were gay shithead.

>Rimbaud

Took cocks up the ass from a man twice his age

>Proust
Queer as a three dollar bill

>Plato
Wrote about the virtues of pedantry

>Basho
Had a lover boy who followed him around on his peregrinations

>Mishima

Liked twinks

>Ginsburg
Flamboyantly gay

>Whitman
Wrote about naked boys

>Burroughs

Wrote a book called Queer

>Mann

Wrote a book about a married man's romantic attraction to a male youth based on Mann's own experience living for a time in Venice

So now you desire deep spiritual companionship while telling another user not to bother? Again, get your shit together. You need a friend, not a boyfriend.

I tell him not to bother because I know that mine is just a fantasy! If I really thought I could find such a relationship--a friendship would not suffice because I cannot bear to be any less than everything to the person I am interested in. You might find it amusing to know that my last conversation with a woman ended with her telling me to get my shit together as well. She was a child and a liberal so I dismissed the useless advice, you just brought it to mind. But by all means, tell me how I can go about getting my shit together and I might try--my responses should have already revealed that I have nothing better to do right now.

anyone know the artist/date on this piece?

I doubt half of this is true. Assuming it is, you seem to enjoy whatever it is you're doing despite claiming feelings of unhappiness or depression so suicide is likely not in the cards for you unfortunately.

Similar situation here. I got a STEM degree which is arguably more useless than a BA in English despite what most people may believe. Now I'm working in an office helping them go paperless...Every page I scan brings me one step closer to the end of my contract. I've thought about going into the trades...but I might go back to building fences and decks. Not very literary but it's half decent income.

No, that's just sad.

Having been socially underdeveloped myself, I found a lot of the problem was that I was too much in my own head instead of actively listening to people. When you really listen to someone conversation will flow a lot better and you might be able to establish a deeper connection with others that way.

Do you work, or go to school?

I've spent years in love with the idea of being a writer but actually writing very little (compared to the time I put in at least; I still wrote many full novels, short stories, scripts and what have you, but I was happy with just abandoning things after the first draft - which I was convinced was gold - and never actually sending anything for publication or showing it to anyone). I was spending all the rest of my time reading pretentious crap and was telling myself that's all I needed to do to improve.

Of everything that OP says, very little is about the literary lifestyle. "Living in repulsive places", "depression", "listening to Beethoven" and "fantasizing about dick" isn't what the literary lifestyle is about. The literary lifestyle is about reading, writing and publishing. If you enjoy doing the other things, that's fine, but don't fool yourself thinking you're becoming a better writer by doing them.

You sound like an user I know from NY.

Do you know how to fucking comprehend anything? Everyone knows about the personal lives of those people. Many of their works are on my bookshelf

>>Spend hours in cafes

You sound like an insufferable yuppie. You didn't even need to go to college for literature btw. If that's all you went for. They fleeced you.

lmfao imagine being this much of a delusional faggot revisionist history cuck

>you're a vagina-cuck

Why even bother saying this it's never going to have any effect on any normal guy ever. Only MGTOW guys would feel some sting from that line and they're basically faggots now anyway.

>pedantry
lmao freudian slip amirite

also it seems anachronistic to call plato specifically gay

This is what retards actually think
English Literature majors do more than read in fucking class you stupid faggot.
They learn of ways to read and interpret texts, links between texts, and involve serious criticisms of one's criticisms, and even criticisms of your criticisms of criticisms. Then you can criticize their criticism of your criticism of criticisms.

criticize the bible and tell me its meaning

most people can learn how to read without paying $60k a year

>learn of ways to interpret texts, links between texts, and involve serious criticisms of one's criticisms, and even criticisms of your criticisms of criticisms
That's fine if you want to become a critic. It's bullshit if you want to become a writer though.

>Romances never last more than a few weeks
>Romances
>s

Normie.

JCS >>>>>>>>>> men and old hags

Many of us think that to imitate the vices of great men will be enough to resurrect them within us. We're mistaken.

Wrong
>americans actually pay 60k a year for their garbage education
lmao
Then study writing, not literature, you fucking retard.
>i want to become an artist so im going to study phenomenology lmao

>I was happy with just abandoning things after the first draft - which I was convinced was gold - and never actually sending anything for publication or showing it to anyone

fuck, I'm so guilty of this. It's disgusting, shameful behavior, but I'm guilty of it all the same. How did you ever level up past it, user?

>This is what retards actually think

Not really, but if that's what you need to tell yourself. The truth is most of them lack a real sense of curiosity. You can't teach that. They can feign it for a time but they'll never have that lifelong burning desire to know and improve -- a few will, and those few might go on to say something worth hearing, but most will simply live life going through the motions.

This is one of the few fields where you can skip tertiary education and be none the worse for it if you're driven enough; in fact it might even prove to be a net positive.

>>i want to become an artist so im going to study phenomenology lmao

...You think these two are mutually exclusive? Honestly you should just stop posting desu.

>this is what brainlets tell themselves

I make six figures coding in Haskell for a blogging startup out of Portland, OR. As mentioned, I write the backend using various Haskell frameworks. I also assist with frontend when the women can't figure how to manipulate the DOM. I work fifteen hours a week and make what most developers make in a forty-hour week. I'm that good. Oh, and did I mention I work exclusively remotely, which means, of course, from the various coffee boutiques near my loft, as well as from vegan cafeterias and, on occasion, the RagingBitch microbrewery.

Which brings me to my point: when I am not coding for said startup, I continue work on my literary career. I am 26 and have a corpus of over four thousand written pages, all workshoped and edited, of course (I *highly* recommend sleeping with editors.) I have been published in Tin House, Granta, McSweeny's, Ploughshares, and Glitter Train, to name a few. Each morning I sit at my writing desk with my implement and in long hand on refurbished artisinal papier continue drafting what will without a doubt be The Great American Internet Novel. My submissives (I visit a rotating cast of three at a time, all at least C-cup) refer to me as "Hemingway". I have never gone hungry, worn soiled clothes, or wanted for human attention. I have bipolar-II, and confront it directly and effectively through medication and power of willl. I therefore can speak to mental illness without being crippled by it.

I'd offer to read your manuscript but, let's face it, it's not worth my time.

No I hate students and I'm straight. But everything else is accurate...

You are not an artist. You are cosplaying as one. Your life is a meme.

The literary life is the product of devotion to art. Going to bars to meet new people who inspire you. Drinking in excess to do something worth writing about. Going to cafes to meet other artists. Banging easy women because the lifestyle is incompatible with long term relationships.
The list goes on. Every action stems from devotion to art. It's sincere and authentic and not a copywork.

In your case, it's simply
>muh cafes
>muh alcoholism
>muh depression
>muh whores
>imma think I'm too intelligentual for normal peoples
>no mommy you don't understand I'm a writer now

You are a joke.

>following your genetic commands to reproduce

You say that as if you have some sort of superiority complex over reproduction. Humans are put here to reproduce. This is fact and how we have survived long enough to get to this point. I'm pro-gay rights but you have a shit attitude. You're only here because of somebody's genetic commands to reproduce and because someone decided not to abort you.
Inb4 >I didn't ask to be born. Wah.

>he's a normie who wishes he had the natural brilliance allotted to the chosen by turbo autism

Look upon me from afar and covet till you choke.

This desu.
>muh tortured artist

Doesn't that make him the ultimate artist though?

Suffering in the name of a peace of elaborate performance art that spans an entire human lifetime.

Are you illiterate?
Of course you can study creative writing and literature, just don't expect to learn to write prose from a literature major.

there is nothing literary about debt

>Going to bars to meet new people who inspire you. Drinking in excess to do something worth writing about. Going to cafes to meet other artists. Banging easy women because the lifestyle is incompatible with long term relationships.

>>muh cafes
>muh alcoholism
>muh whores

This is exactly the same shit you projecting idiot.

Your whole post was the biggest projection. Are you delusional?

Evola helped me a lot with most of these issues.

You're about to comprehend my fist in your fucking face

I'm tormented by remorse and loneliness, sometimes I read books and drink coffee.

Is this Veeky Forums enough?

>you're a vagina-cuck robotically following your genetic commands to reproduce.
Says the guy that still has sexual urges that he must exteriorise in an homosexual manner instead of just abstaining

>Becks
god no

>Nah dude you are just a poser, lemme teach you how to be a real poser
Hope both of you get brain cancer

How much do you get paid? Like $9 an hour? I would love to do that but then I wouldn't be able to eat food or have a bed to sleep on.

You sound like the last person on Earth I'd want to read a book by. I would literally rather read a book written in orange crayon by a severely retarded person than anything by you.

>the only intelligent post in this fucking cancerous thread.

glad someone said it. fuck you OP.

Blackbooks?

Am I living the literary lifestyle?

>Only debt is owing £4 to my friend for buying me cigarettes
>Not depressed, in the slightest, pretty cheerful in fact. Do get very angry semi-regularly though.
>Read whatever I want. Overwhelmingly philosophy but I read other stuff sometimes
>Spend 99% of my time in my room, only ever go outside to go to parties or go running.
>Haven't had a romantic encounter in 2 years, don't particularly miss it either.
>Sustained by the fact that I like living
>Live with my mom for the sake of not spending money
>Lots of friends because I enjoy the company of pretty much anyone.
>Laugh regularly

I wear lots of black and drink coffee too if that helps.

>beethoven
It is impossible to be more entry-level

>doing social instead of reading
People are discusting. Leave them, read instead.