>notice a Corinthians pin on my group member's backpack >ask him what his favorite in the Bible is to start a conversation >really just wanted to discuss the literary and philosophical aspects of the Bible, I'm not very religious >10 minutes into the conversation he is going on an autistic rant about how I should be going to church and that I shouldn't read the KJV
So this is why nobody respects Christians
Jacob Myers
He's right, you know.
Anthony Cox
>literary and philosophical aspects of the Bible
kek you got meme'd, my friend.
Aiden Mitchell
>literary and philosophical aspects of the Bible Stick with the pre-christian greeks
James Morris
If he doesn't read the KJV, he is probably a evangelical whack.
Juan Reed
>ITT autist memer tries to have a conversation with an autist relitard
Brody Perez
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Dylan Rogers
What's the problem with KJV?
Jeremiah Young
He could be Catholic.
I read it for the cultural heritage it represents, but I've heard that the translation is imperfect and is also grounded on weaker texts. Nonetheless, it's what English-speaking people read for centuries, so what's really the point of making a new one? Apparently God was pleased enough with America and Britain to let us win World War II against the rest of the world.
Lucas Rogers
VAI CORINTIAAAAAAAS
Ethan King
I know Catholicism isn't doing too well, but pins sound very evangelical.
Luke Harris
He's right though, the KJV is garbage
James Thompson
t. brainlet
Julian James
>Nonetheless, it's what English-speaking people read for centuries, so what's really the point of making a new one?
Because the prose isn't very good for a start. Some portion of English speakers may have been reading it in recent centuries but its still a relatively modern invention and doesn't represent the beauty of the text as most of the rest of the world experienced it for most of history
Levi Morris
I actually prefer the KJV on the left.
Justin Gomez
This wasn't a good example to use. The broken reading and archaic speech of the KJV leads to more introspection and lends more magnitude to the text. That passage from the NIV reads like whinging prose.
Christian Robinson
The introspection is mediated by English poets, rather than prophets and Apostles. I'll never understand why do Anglos think that it's acceptable to speculate and corrupt the Holy Book in which they actually believe. Why is that not heresy?
John Roberts
probably because christcucks are hypocritical, self-serving retards who judge what is "heretical" based purely on convenience
Jonathan Morales
>The broken reading and archaic speech of the KJV leads to more introspection and lends more magnitude to the text
Lmao shut the fuck up
Brandon Mitchell
Then you're an idiot or worse lying to yourself
Jaxson Hughes
>I'll never understand why do Anglos think that it's acceptable to speculate and corrupt the Holy Book in which they actually believe.
I blame Americans who somehow think the 17th century is ancient history. They talk about the KJV like its what all of Western literature if based on
Justin Sullivan
>translation is heresy >thinking about scripture is heresy This is what Catholics actually believe
Elijah Watson
Well, KJV and the works of Shakespeare are pretty foundational, at least for American, and even most later English, literature.
Obviously not as important in French or German or Spanish literature, though.
Noah Robinson
I don't know
Hunter Ortiz
Actually what you say holds true for all English-speaking countries. So many expressions, idioms, and just the way we articulate in English is derived from pic related, especially from the KJV and Shakespeare. Not reading the KJV, even if you're Catholic or Orthodox, is doing yourself a great disservice from a literary and cultural perspective.
Jose Bailey
We are not talking about a minor inconvenience here: we're talking about the only source of our entire religion and worldview. It's not something irrelevant.
>translation is heresy There's a big difference between translating and doctoring. >thinking about scripture is heresy Never said that. Soing theology and tricking billions of people into believing a corrupted version of the Bible are vastly different things.
>Not reading the KJV, even if you're Catholic or Orthodox, is doing yourself a great disservice from a literary and cultural perspective. Maybe, but it's certainly not a religious one. The KJV should be read as a fanfiction.
Jonathan Cruz
No, NIV is trash. It's dumbed down. Anything that seeks to adopt the style of accessibility, to adapt to the mass rather than seeks the mass adapt to it is trash. Raise, not lower.
Ian Campbell
>Raise, not lower. >trying to improve on the word of God, Jesus, the Apostles and the Prophets
Jesus our Lord and Saviour, please forgive him.
Dylan Myers
Obviously LARPing.
Chase Hill
Do you like those Shakespeare as told through emoticon books too? A translation can use elevated, magisterial language or prosaic and common language and still get the essential point across, I suppose. Neither changes the original text itself. But if you're translating, why would you want anything but the most elevated language possible when translating books about God?
Bentley Ross
Apparently caring about the word of God is now "LARPing".
>Do you like those Shakespeare as told through emoticon books too? That's what the KJV is.
> A translation can use elevated, magisterial language or prosaic and common language and still get the essential point across, I suppose. You are translating the most important text in existence: every single part of it matters, therefore magisterial language should be used only when that part in the source is magisterial, and the same applies for every other type of language. If you are doctoring and "improving" the original source (and to think that one can improve it is pure heresy) then you are not translating: you are corrupting.
>But if you're translating, why would you want anything but the most elevated language possible when translating books about God? If I'm translating I want to read what was contained in the original text, in the same way it was laid down. Since we are twlking about the Bible, this becomes an absolute imperative.
Juan Cook
All translations are approximations and involve making choices. That is an inherent fact. If you're going to be such a stickler, then you should really insist that people learn Hebrew and Aramaic and Greek. Good luck with that.
Justin Cooper
switch pilgrims progress for canterbury tales or faerie queene
Andrew Ortiz
>he doesn't speak Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek
Jonathan Barnes
>tfw monolingual master race
Ayden Barnes
Not all Americunts
William King
The NIV takes almost no license in translating, while every sentence of the KJV has been reworked. This makes your argument invalid.
Dylan Smith
Based timão poster
Brandon Adams
>not posting the full version
Juan Rogers
>it's a "everyone in this group is like this one person I met" thread
You were probably too dumb to provide decent conversation anyway.
Jordan Stewart
>shouldn't read the KJV wait what why
Noah Cook
Read on in this thread to see Christian autists attempt to explain.
Dylan Sullivan
In terms of English lit, KJV is obviously the best
But it's not the most accurate translation
Brody Watson
>In terms of English lit, KJV is obviously the best
Not remotely true
Henry Morris
KJV was created by Protestants, don't read it, it will lead you astray. Learn Latin so that you can read the Vulgate.
Grayson Smith
the one on the left is much better
Lincoln Rodriguez
KJV for references. NSRV otherwise.
Carter Parker
>reading the Bible in a language other than Latin
Vatican II was a mistake
Liam Peterson
>Worshipping words instead of directing your worship to God himself. >Thinking The Bible was meant for you instead of a message to the people that lived in that specific timeframe. >Worshipping an institution just because it was the one that aligned with God 2,000 years ago even though it has been progressively corrupted by humankind for all this time. >Thinking anything but your own soul is the path to salvation.
How does it feel to not nurture your own personal relationship with God and instead depend on some written word that may or may not have been inspired and preserved by divinity?
Levi Rogers
Most anons here on Veeky Forums don't actually care about the actual spiritual aspect and see The Bible as another meme book to check off their list and then act all high and mighty about having read it. Case in point, look at OP.
Thomas Brown
niv is goat
Wyatt Smith
by this logic you are a brainlet if you read anything other than ancient aramaic
Jack Campbell
>reading translations
Carter Green
>not reading R. Crumb's Book of Genesis
Aaron Foster
>reading
Easton James
>calling it Le Bible non-jew interpreters of the Tanakh and associated gnostic apocrypha were a mistake.