Why do artists only seem half as interested in and as informed about the subjects they're actually dealing with in...

Why do artists only seem half as interested in and as informed about the subjects they're actually dealing with in their work, compared to the average intellectual?

I think you're on the wrong board, buddy. This one is for the discussion of literary works.

Name the board I should be asking this question?

probably Veeky Forums

God I know you're trying to help, but Veeky Forums is a shithole and the fact all the good art threads have haemorrhaged from here where they actually got discussion to there, where they generally die instantly isn't something to encourage. Veeky Forums is the history board, the purpose of adding the "&humanities" is so that more general posting isn't deleted on there, not so that all humanities discussion on this site has to be funnelled towards Veeky Forums. Veeky Forums is also a general humanities board, because literature is too permeable and I distinct from other fields of the humanities to ban their discussion, something the mods have forgotten.

Every time I've made an art thread on Veeky Forums it's received tonnes of replies and generated good discussion. Mods then come and move the thread to Veeky Forums where it gets one or two replies max and then dies. It's bullshit dude

becuase authors are commentator on subjects, not experts.

the difference is between writing a narrative piece of fiction, versus writing a lab report.

Novels typically aren't vehicles for academic research. Aimed at a more general audience, they tend to deal more in universals, and are designed not just to provoke thought but emotion as well. Why treat a novel like a monograph? Artists and intellectuals play two very different roles.

Veeky Forums is just a containment board for anything that is "humanities" but isn't Veeky Forums or /pol/. The majority of threads on his are just bait threads for people to yell about "history" while knowing nothing about it themselves

This.

i feel bad for sam hyde. like gavin mcinnes before him, he used to have a light-hearted depth of sarcasm and viciousness that only comes from not caring. both of them have unironically begun to care about politics and it's pathetic. gavin i understood because i thought he was less intelligent and needed a way to make money. maybe because sam lived in providence i thought he was smarter—he unironically has like a 115 iq.

my mom is an artist in new england and i just had dinner with her windbag friend who is a bigwig at RISD. the sjw stuff sounds like a nightmare, but the biggest problem is the population of people becoming artists. terry zwigoff's art school confidential is kind of gay, but more or less nails it. it's people in hs who were made fun of and wanted to stay in studio art where no one would roast them. the RISD senior shows are all done by brainlets.

im rambling, but the gist is that people who are currently becoming visual artists are not the cream of the crop like they were in renaissance florence. that's part of the problem with materialism: the smartest folks are sucked up in the race to make money and never make anything that lasts past their lifetimes (not that it matters for them, it just sucks for us)

I think some people pick the wrong target audience and spend so much time and effort catering to them that they can't reverse or move elsewhere.

If you've pigeonholed yourself as a right-wing nationalist or whatever, you can't really move away from there. You'll just continue going down that path until you go through the anti-intellectualism door, then you're fucked.

I've thought a lot about why fiercely independent, good artists (this in no way includes Sam Hyde) often gravitate towards fascism, which is in the same vein as hardcore socialism in terms of being the antithesis of individualism and freedom.

I can see how people get drawn into fascism and nationalism as a response to the femininity, original sin, etc. associated with modern left wing politics/mentalities, but rearranging your philosophy and outlook as a response to another group is absurd.

I fucking hate materialism as a curriculum or framework or whatever for art.

You seem rather politically underdeveloped. Very odd analysis here.

Everyone wants to get paid as much as they can for doing what they love.

Be more precise.

Sam Hyde had an opportunity most people would kill for, yet he went down the rabbit hole and ended up losing his audience. Now he's embracing the juvenile "alt-right" crowd and relying too much on what they want to hear and absurdity. He's toast.

Is a 115 IQ considered impressive? I'm being sincere, I don't pay attention to IQ shit and the only IQ stuff I see on Veeky Forums is "under 140 IQ? How's it feel to be a brainlet :^)"

not true. naive egoists want to make money and think they are creative enough to do it, but not everyone has been cucked to infinity and back by the spectacle. not everyone cares about money.

No idea. I just figure people who go on about their IQ clearly aren't doing much with their abilities, and have to instead belabor their raw talent.

if you went to a good school, that's probably below average

>doing much with their abilities
brainlet detected

>not everyone cares about money.
Adults who want to live solely based on their art do. Adults who have to pay their own rent, buy their own food, and raise a family do.

If you are under 25 and/or live at home and/or are a student, don't try to talk about the virtue of not wanting money.

Artists are too self absorbed to fully apprehend any subject besides themselves whereas intellectuals are so revolted in looking inwards that they seek to disassociate completely through the attempt of fully comprehending some exterior subject. This is not a statement about the quality of these two types of persons "inner" but rather describes their reaction to it

you can ensure you have enough money to eat and shit while not having your life revolve around, or your thoughts possessed by it more than 1% of the day. additionally, not everyone is lower class like you.

Are you white?

I don't know my IQ but I have a BSc, MSc, and PhD and have published 21 papers already, and I only finished my PhD 12 months ago. By all metrics, eg scholarships, awards, pubs, etc., I am above-average intelligence and abilities.

I just don't understand the preoccupation with IQs and intelligence s.s. Who cares? Just do good work and be productive, let that speak for you. If you are high-functioning and have the goods to back it up, you don't need to repeat your IQ as a misguided attempt towards validation and impressing others.

who is this strawman you are accusing? all i said was that low iq people are going to art school.

Yes.

Caring about money =/= obsessing about money.

Lower class? I'm . My parents have a networth of ~$6 million and I have a strong work ethic and complete lack of entitlement. Of course I have a good safety net thanks to parental success, but I am not so immature, spoiled, or inexperienced to pretend that money doesn't matter. I am not much of a materialist, but I understand the cost of living in our society.

Great writers probably know a lot about their subjects, Flaubert is a classical example. Search for what he had read and travelled to compose the likes of Mme. Bovary and Salammbo.

But in general I think a great deal of artists (and people) make a clear cut between art/science; subject/object and so on. Maybe they need some Heidegger.

115 is approaching and possibly at the cutoff to perform well in demanding professions like law, management, medicine and engineering. It's substantially better than average but it would appear that someone who routinely scores 115 would have trouble making it in the above professions.

you are definitely lower class m8. nothing to do with money. maybe when you grow up youll understand how much time you've wasted

He was never original, only slightly relevant and maybe a bit daring. His schtick is literally Chris Morris meets Wonder Showzen meets Eric Andre meets Tim Heidecker. At one point he even banned people from social media for any mention of the above. Now he'll brag for eternity about how he made mainstream meteor his bitch by pitching World Peace to Adult Swim. He went for the lowest common denominator and is going to burn out like all the contrarian faggots.

Maybe so they won't make D-list comedies that get cancelled, cry like a bitch about it and then be unable to afford health insurance.

Now he's into posting edgy videos on Facebook. Muh rapefugees, hurr.

>I've thought a lot about why fiercely independent, good artists (this in no way includes Sam Hyde) often gravitate towards fascism, which is in the same vein as hardcore socialism in terms of being the antithesis of individualism and freedom.
Of course because it is romantic