This dude was born in 1818. Why was he able predict the conditions of the modern world so faithfully?

This dude was born in 1818. Why was he able predict the conditions of the modern world so faithfully?

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Lol. Marx is a joke as an actual thinker. He was writing to jews and telling them how to rile up the plebs and take down the European aristocracy, that was the point. Jews are revolutionaries who try to pit people against each other so they can gain power. Back then jewish social agitators did this based on class, now they do it based on race. If you're taking Marx's ideas at face value without understanding the jewish question, you're an idiot.

He didn't he just complained about having to work in order to make money. the guy never had a job in his entire life

Because nothing really changes and people are basically the same regardless of what technology we have.

>He was writing to jews
i can already tell this is going to be a great point

Look at the religious his grandpa was. Its obvious his goal was fucking up society through his snake oil ramblings.

I feel the same way reading the greeks.

>predict something faithfully
please leave this board.

Also Marx didn't predict shit and just wasn't a good thinker. There's notebooks full of literally 1000 pages of his attempts to wrap his head around Calc 1 lmao

Regardless of what people typically say, Marx actually understood human nature and the way we act very well. His failure was in assuming that this was a byproduct of capitalism and not being human.

>"predict" the modern world
>use his knowledge to come up with an ideology that will end in mass murder

sorry guys! it was just a theory!

These types of "human nature" and "muh capitalism" arguments are easy to dismiss because they come from people who obviously don't understand the jewish component.

>rich people are generally better off than poor people

wow marx, what insight!

That was the point though. Anyone saying otherwise is an unintelligent leftist or a lying jew.

Are you implying there is such thing as an intelligent leftist?

You add literally nothing to the conversation.

laffing at how shit your life could only possibly be

it's the jews fault desu

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I wonder who could be behind this post

KEK

Some people actually think like this.

He's right though.

KEK

THERE'S FUCKING TWO OF THEM!

Bloody hell.

Marx hated jews retard

He literally was one

Is this bait?

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/

>The Christian state can behave towards the Jew only in the way characteristic of the Christian state – that is, by granting privileges, by permitting the separation of the Jew from the other subjects, but making him feel the pressure of all the other separate spheres of society, and feel it all the more intensely because he is inreligiousopposition to the dominant religion. But the Jew, too, can behave towards the state only in a Jewish way – that is, by treating it as something alien to him, by counterposing his imaginary nationality to the real nationality, by counterposing his illusory law to the real law, by deeming himself justified in separating himself from mankind, by abstaining on principle from taking part in the historical movement, by putting his trust in a future which has nothing in common with the future of mankind in general, and by seeing himself as a member of the Jewish people, and the Jewish people as the chosen people.
>The most rigid form of the opposition between the Jew and the Christian is thereligiousopposition. How is an opposition resolved? By making it impossible. How isreligiousopposition made impossible? Byabolishing religion. As soon as Jew and Christian recognize that their respective religions are no more thandifferent stages in the development of the human mind, different snake skins cast off byhistory, and that man is the snake who sloughed them, the relation of Jew and Christian is no longer religious but is only a critical,scientific, and human relation.Science, then, constitutes their unity. But, contradictions in science are resolved by science itself.

Karl Marx was not only an opponent of incipient Jewish nationalism but was critical of the entire Jewish identity. As a Jew raised Christian who considered himself nothing but German, he demanded his fellow Jews pursue nothing less than a program of full assimilation.

Cunt!

yeah he was a real faggot self-hating jew
fuck that guy

Should the same not be said of Jesus, whose ideology also led to the slaughter of millions?

No he wasn't, he was an ethnic Jew who rightfully recognized that public affirmations of Jewishness were unnecessary affectations that only entrenched the differences between Jews and Christians and actually made Jewish life in Christian societies more precarious.

He wasn't a self hating Jew any more than a pragmatic reformer like Pope John XXIII was a self hating Christian

This dude was born in the 5th century BC. Why was he able predict the conditions of the modern world so faithfully?

Well well wouldn't you know? It's time for /pol/ to get back on the Special People's Bus and head back to their special little place!

Toot toot! That's the whistle! That's okay, you can keep drooling on your way there!

And you actually believe that?

good post

he's literally responsible for the holocaust
he's an uncle tom jew-hater

>slaughter of millions
of Christians. 20 million Christians died under the Soviet Union; 20 times more than the total casualties under the Crusades.

No. Belief in God leads you away from evil.

>implying the crusades were the only time Christian ideology led to mass murder
>this damage control
Get over yourselves. Jesus didn't commit mass murder; Marx didn't commit mass murder. Both contributed considerably towards our modern world, and should be acknowledged for it. People love to meme on Marx here because it is the popular thing to hate, but his ideas revolutionized our understanding of economics, sociology, and history and are still influential to this day.
People who criticize his political thought are confusing it with Marxism-Leninism, which is an entirely different ideology.

And those Christians were murdered by jews inspired by Marx. Need one really wonder why this guy is heralded in jewish-run western academia these days? Jews may be deceitful psychopaths but they aren't all that subtle about promoting their interests. No reason why white men shouldn't be able to see the writing on the wall here. Jews are very sick people who are nothing like us and harbor extreme hatred for us.

So basically, you are saying he thought that instead of it being the fault of the german people for being retards whose tiny, incompetent minds turns to indiscriminate murder the second they are presented with anything different than them, it is the fault of the jews for being different. Really makes you think.

This user is correct, just because Marx wrote some nice books does not mean some morons should have actually tried to make it irl

Why the fuck would I not?

Marx wasn't a Jewish nationalist or some grand conspiracist or even a revolutionary. He was a historian and a social scientist who closely analyzed existing conditions of the time and made some broad predictions toward the future.

Nothing in Marx's entire body work, from his published volumes to his private manuscripts to even his personal correspondences with friends and rivals, suggests and kind of Jewish supremacy or oligarchal intent.

You believe this because you've never read Marxist theory and only know what other /pol/ users tell you.

No, Marx was calling for the transformation of existing religious attitudes such that something like the Holocaust wouldn't be possible.

On the Jewish Question shows that Marx believed not only should Christian states adopt a secular character, but Jews ought to abandon the special-snowflake aspects of their religion and stop posturing as some poor landless nation entitled to a country, and instead behave like citizens of the countries in which they live.

I've surely read more of it than you have, your perspective merely revolves around regurgitating information out a modern frame you don't actually understand instead of learning about how jews think and operate, which is the only way to truly understand it.

just asked my half-jewish wife if this was true. it's confirmed

>ctrl + f jew
>41 hits

how do you get a qt jewish gf, please help me man

>implying the Soviet Union was the only time where ideology led to the mass murder of Christians

>Jews ought to abandon the special-snowflake aspects of their religion and stop posturing as some poor landless nation entitled to a country, and instead behave like citizens of the countries in which they live.
right, I understand what he thought, but you need to understand that all it demonstrates is the blatantly anti-semitic way of thinking that Marx had allowed German culture to impart on him

No one cares about christians desu

>this thread
>people attacking marx for being a jew
>people defending marx for being anti-semitic

This is a thread about Marx and the jewish ideology that continues to wreak havoc on western countries. Do you go into Harry Potter threads on reddit and ctrl + f for wizards then complain about that too?

this your first Marx thread on Veeky Forums kid?

Only those who have strayed from God do evil. The closer you are to God the better your moral judgement. Satan goes after the religious because he recoils whenever he sees people being good Christians.

>Marx wasn't a Jewish nationalist

He was raised to be a Zionist. Look up his family roots

Is that supposed to be an argument?
Leave the fire and brimstone religious ramblings for /x/

Sorry, at most you will just be their goy toy

Yes. Are you claiming you can judge morality without a divine guide? Give me a break

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The truth hurts doesn't it?

>Jesus, whose ideology also led to the slaughter of millions?
this is.... patently false

Damn thats scary.

so this is how it ends

I didn't claim that, but yes you can.
You don't need big guy in the sky to have a consistent morality.
Do you need to pretend to be a religious nut to post on Veeky Forums? No.

Do you really think the Crusades were the ONLY period of Christian violence in our history?

Cathar persecutions, the Hussite wars, the German wars of religion, France's annihilation of the Hugenauts, American colonization, transatlantic slavery, the destruction of Native American society, Taiping Rebellion, and the ongoing persecutions of pagans in Africa and Latin America were acts of extreme mass violence justified through or directly caused by Christian ideology.

You need to recognize that acts carried out in the name of a mode of thinking don't always have very strong strong implications on that mode, and oftentimes contradict its core values.

why are right wingers still triggered by a picture of a dude in pajamas from six years ago?

>being proud you are atheist

you should feel shame.

Why do you not offended by jews depicting feminized versions of men through media?

The left all look like that. They don't have a ounch of testosterone in them.

He wasn't

I didn't say I was atheist, did I?

When was he born then faggot?

>jewish ideology

Let's name some Marxists who were not Jews.

VI Lenin, (this guy had something to do with communism)

Joe Stalin

Chairman Mao

Friedrich Engels (As in Marx & Engels. About as "Aryan" as you can get)

Antonio Gramsci

I could go on...

he couldn't even read history, let alone predict future

Really? I remember reading somewhere that his math notebooks were somehow influential

Lenin was jewish.

Both marxism and cuckstianism hail from the same poisoned well of jewish-influenced slave morality and ressentiment

True.

But the greater point is that marxism ended up affecting history in ways that simply had nothing to do with Jews.

Do you seriously think these far fetched Jewish pots extended all the way to the insular campaigns of the Khmer Rouge or Che Guevara jumping over sandbags in the Cuban Revolution?

Even if many original marxists were nominally Jewish they were extremely secular and had no feeling for their ethnic or religious upbringing.

>pots
*plots

>Mao wasn't Jewish

No, but he was controlled by them.

Funny how in every communist or socialist state, the Jews are lurking in the shadows, dictating.

They were corrupted by Jewish thought all the same

Karl Marx - Jew
Leon Trotsky - Jew
Lev Kamenev - Jew
Vladimir Lenin - Part Jew
Béla Kun - Jew
Rosa Luxemburg - Jew
Kurt Eisner - Jew
Paul Levi - Jew
Karl Radek - Jew
Eugen Levine - Jew
Gustav Landauer - Jew
Erich Mühsam - Jew
Ernst Toller - Jew
Grigory Zinoviev - Jew
Yakov Sverdlov - Jew
Lev Mekhlis - Jew
Lazar Kaganovich - Jew
Maxim Litvinov - Jew
Yemelyan Yaroslavsky - Jew

Foucault had jewish roots too

So did Christianity. You're missing the forest for the trees. Jews create universalist slave ideologies and spread them among the goyim.

Why do they always look so unhuman. so creepy

I thought we were all feral thugs?

>all this blatant /pol/ posting
Just when I thought Veeky Forums couldn't get any worse

He was 1/4 Jewish but his Jewish grandfather concealed his own Jewish heritage

Lenin's partial Jewish ancestry wasn't even discovered until after his death

Wow like 4

Not true by the way, for example, during the Bronze age, we developed past our ability to hear the voice of God.

>implying there is anything wrong with /pol/

back to r*ddit with you

You have your cesspool of a board for a reason, go there or kill yourself

So much for the tolerant left.

Are you going to keep cycling through your juvenile shitposting lingo or are you going to stop shitting up this literature board with your hilarious "politics"

I don't know about that, but the Frankfurt School was a de facto jewish institution:
Ernst Bloch, Walter Benjamin, Max Horkheimer, Herbert Marcuse, Jurgen Habermas, Erich Fromm, Leo Löwenthal, Siegfried Kracauer, Otto Kirchheimer - all jewish
Theodor Adorno and Friedrich Pollock - half-jewish

So Jews are smart and have a good thing going for them. Who cares? Do you think Mao cared what the Jews wanted when he was ruling over a country of nearly a billion?

He would have thrown any Jew he didn't like in a dungeon.

They literally convinced Mao to kill billions of people dude. Its about tricking him into believing their murderous ideology, its not about what "mao cared" about

end your life pol shit, every time you stub your toe I bet you blame the jews, too

Dude we are literally just saying it as it is. Are you just going to ignore

Jesus was a cool dude, preached many things that today we constitute to being a 'good' person and overall beneficial to yourself and others.
People are fucking retarded in the masses, and will belligerently twist his reported words to justify acting like shitty hypocritical human beings.