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How do you guys like to cope with WD's when you decide to go cold turkey? What's the worst part about them to you?

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>going cold turkey, ever

You would KNOW if you had the shakes at some point, right? Like there's no mistaking it for anything else?

I've done it many times and I've drank like crazy for 12 years. It sucks, but it's doable, especially when you're broke.

By far the fear, I can deal with the shakes, aches, sweats, vomit and diarrhea but the fear is death just waving you on. Last time the dog kept barking at me telling me I was dying, knocks at the door with no one there, hearing parents yell at me when they're dead. The emotional torture of that is far beyond the physical.

I feel you there. It also amplifies every other withdrawal symptom on top of it. Shit is awful.

I'm drunk after like 4 days, and idk why it feels so good to be buzzed

Were you drinking daily? How much?

>doing well with sobriety the past 3 weeks
>relapse once, but shake myself out of it quickly before it gets bad
>tonight get uncontrollable urge to drink so strong that I'm already putting my coat and boots on and walking to the store even though I don't even feel like drinking
>get home and sit there staring at booze with no desire to drink it or get drunk
>drink it anyway

Yes, I was. I got to a point where I was drinking 1-2 bottles of 750 ml vodka every single day. My benders now are usually 1-2 mickey's but I'm trying to keep those under control and quit altogether. Keep in mind I'm only 110lbs at 5'1". I still don't know how the fuck I'm alive.

well... yeah, you'll be shaking...

i've known one person in my life who might not realize he's experiencing the shakes. he has the opposite of surgeon hands and had diagnosed dysgraphia because his hands shook so much. if that doesn't sound like you, yeah, you'll know

i'm going to the doctor tomorrow. any advice for anything, at all?

quit drinking?

Never let a cat in your house.

Quit my job, but I had a ton of vacation days and back pay. Moved back in with my parents and I'm sitting on $3,000. Been spending my money on greasy takeout and Johnnie Walker black label. I sleep for 18 hours in one stretch. This shit is getting out of hand. It's eat, drink, watch movies, shitpost, pass out. How to break this cycle?

Spend the money on something which will allow you to take up a new hobby. A cryptocurrency mining rig, a metal detector, a fishing rod, a telescope, some bed restraints and whips, some hydroponic grow equipment, even a pro home-brewing kit

Had a friend who landed about $20,000 and did this. When you get down to $1,500 in the bank, that's when you START looking for another job, or you're gonna want to fucking kill yourself when you're totally broke after living so comfortably.

I taper or I take Xanax

is that superstition? about cats? i did that last werk. cute feral cats i feed were curious about where i live and came in.

>have to drink half a handle to actually feel drunk
I so dearly envy the lightweights,

b&

Yeah I just bought myself two handles to last the week because I'm trying to save money.

Been up for 4 hours and 20% of one of them is already gone and I have a warmth in my stomach at best.
Eating a few small pieces of food made me feel better than the alcohol did.
I do not think I can make 2 handles last for 7 days no matter how much I thought I could.
This sucks

Not necessarily. Mine are pretty bad now but to begin with they were very mild. So mild I didn't even notice but my friend pointed it out to me.

The worst thing about trying to get sober is the sleep trouble.

The fear is worse tbqh.

ok something is fucking wrong with me i got through a quarter of a liter of vodka last night without even trying

as soon as i get even mildly buzzed i feel i have to keep going deeper

really tempted to just pour this shit right now

...

>haven't been drinking since new years
>yesterday helpmmy mother disassemble and old bed and transport it to her friend and assemble it again
>she gives me a bottle of really good burbon
It... it w-would be a s-s-shame to not drink it, rigth?

I don't know much your saving but I almost never buy more than I plan to drink.

...

I meant I haven't been drinking AT HOME since new years eve.

healthline.com/nutrition/7-ways-to-prevent-a-hangover#section2
>Drinks high in congeners include whiskey, cognac and tequila. Bourbon whiskey is exceptionally high in congeners.

>congeners
The fuck are those?

Impurities in booze which make you feel like death the next day.

I thought getting roughly 3.5liters of vodka for 28$ aftertax wasn't too bad.
Before I was buying it by the fifth daily and then then random malt 8% sugarbeers.
It would come up to about 10$ a day.

hey guys im drinking some sambuca and its starting to turn white will i still get drunk

>that much booze when you're this small
How? Legit curious. How does a person so small metabolize that much alcohol?

>brothers staying with me because hes leaving his wife
>he found my bag of empty handles and reserve handles in my garage closet
>"man you have more issues than me haha"
>we both drink to ease the pain together

We're not so different you and I

I like to call that "The Thirst"

Not your slave, Do it yourself

Dude I feel the same. Addictive personality I guess.
THIS IS AN EXTREME THIRST

i fucked up
impulsively bought a bottle of honey jim beam

it tastes like shit

...

inheriting $5,000 is the worst thing to ever happen to me

wut

I got 100,000 when I was a kid, my parents got access to it somehow and stole it. I've brought it up a few times and they pretend that it was for my "education expenses" but I know they spent it on lavish vacations and other frivolous bullshit. Hope they saved some of it at least since i'll be tossing them into the worst old folks home I can find

I'd sue tbqh. If they were honest I'd let them off, but I'd sue just because they lie.

how can alcys deal with the hangover? alcohol has very few positives
just smoke weed

Wew I have been there man. Getting called into the financial office and told that the account they were withdrawing from is empty, and how I would like to proceed. I didn't finish college and I no longer talk to my father at all, the first year or two he would blow up my phone trying to stay in touch but it's stopped now. I wish I could reconcile with him but 45 grand flushed down the toilet to impress some bimbo, with no apology or warning while I'm just getting started in life at like 19 was just heart breaking. I'd say you're completely justified in putting them into the shittiest home you can find

I'll take some of that money off your hands

Alcohol lobbyists tell me that it's lethal. If I can't trust the millionaires who depend on my alcoholism and fund corrupt political parties, who can I trust?

We don't get them.
When I was younger and binge drank I'd take a Vicodin and rail a line of coke, instant fix.
Nowadays I automatically wake up every few hours over the night and just take a swig of vodka from the bottle on my nightstand and chase it down with some Gatorade before going back to sleep. If you never stop drinking you can't be hungover ;)

Well, when they come into the jails our folks dose them with Librium until the withdrawals subside. So that’s always an option.

>when they come into the jails
yeah i fucking wish. not even given toilet paper, and no amount of asking for help while withdrawing means a damn thing. i was once apparently caged and woke up in hospital the next day after apparently having a seizure. don't even remember being arrested.

Well that must not have been one of our jails, where was it? Our staff are required to give Librium for EtOH withdrawal and there’s an incentive for us to give it because medicating someone going through withdrawal minimizes the chances that they will attempt suicide, have a seizure (and get sent out to the ER), or assault staff/other inmates due to agitation or hallucinations. As far as I am aware, “saving money by not giving medication” is not a performance measure in any of our contracts. If you’re not conscious during the intake process or attack custody staff in the booking area that may complicate things, though.

Sup bros

UK. Every time I've gone in they've upon seeing the state I get into, asked if I'm a heroin addict or alcoholic, both of which I was, so I was seen by a doctor, and they ticked a couple of boxes and locked me up regardless, lol.

Don’t remember the last time I was hungover

Oh and even after seeing a doc the only meds they gave me was 2 x 500mg paracetamol. As if alcoholism, migraines and smack addiction weren't enough, I was also 6 months into 80mg of prednisolone daily. They left me without that shit for something like 23 hours, and I honest to god couldn't move or speak by the end of it. Fuck that was bad.

Oh. My company is in the US and Australia, although I don’t think we have any jail contracts in Aus it’s all mental health stuff. Odd that they don’t give Librium in the UK I always thought yall were more humane than us. You could always try voicing some suicidal ideations, if you do that in the US that is a guaranteed visit from someone who can prescribe you some drugs, although they will put you in the SHU/adseg for 24+ hours where you won’t have any sheets on your mattress and potentially make you wear a suicide smock so you don’t try to hang yourself with your pants.

JUST

sheets? dude, all i've ever got was a wooden bed with a plastic-coated piece of foam which was literally like 2cm thick, inside a cell with a toilet, a water fountain and a camera. no sheets, no toilet paper, just a box. guards will just tell you to fuck off if you tell them you think you're dying. i wish i was exaggerating.

...still. at least it's not a third world prison. *shudder* a concrete floor with a hole in the corner to shit in, a festering tap with water, and like 100 other people. complete with snakes, scorpions, disease... and you're not even fed, you have to find your own way of getting food through arrangements with other inmates. fuuuuuuuuuck that.
when i feel really bad i watch banged up abroad. gives me some perspective. plus the actress in this one is a qt. youtube.com/watch?v=uf874dqrMOk

Damn that is rough, we give our heroin addicts Tylenol (paracetamol) with 30mg of codeine until we can get them on methadone or suboxone, which is typically within 72 hrs. They’ll immediately be given suboxone or methadone if there’s a provider with prescriptive authority on site. Most jails and prisons in the US provide a thin sheet or blanket, and while many have cameras in the cells they are typically angled in such a way that you can’t be seen using the toilet, unless the facility has an all-male staff and population (or vice versa), then you don’t get any privacy. The Prison Rape Elimination Act of 2012 does not permit the observation of inmates exercising bodily functions by staff of the opposite gender, unless it’s incidental during routine cell checks or an emergency situation.

Just downed a tallboy in my car in the middle of a 7 hour training session to stave off the bad feelings.
Think I am doing this right.

>there are people living like this, right now, day after day, 24/7. 99% of the time because they're poor
humans are fucking shit.

I can't sleep, it blows. That's probably the only thing I can't stand

it get's better mate. Monday I didn't sleep a wink. Same for Tuesday, except I drank half a beer and managed to get a couple of hours. Wednesday, I reduced my taper down to 2 beers and got a fucking amazing sleep.

WHen I said half a beer I meant I drank half a beer at around 5am when I wanted nothing more but to get some rest.

Been drinking less lately, but my buddie's company is hiring so he did me a favor and passed my resume on. So now I'm anxious as fuck because I don't want to fuck it up and embarass him or lose out on what could be a position with good pay and benefits, a lot better than what I've got. So the solution to the anxiety, obviously, is to drink more, right?

have a wank

The fuck is this?

'war tiger cages'. first used in the vietnam war, now used as a form of punishment in some prisons.

>tfw relapsed, listening to tunes, hitting on out-of-my-league girls online/phone, spending money on stupid shit online, grin on face
>conscious that tomorrow this will roughly translate to angry neighbours, crippling cringe, unpaid bills and feeling like death
Love it

My brother went to rehab 3 days ago and my mom called earlier to tell me his withdrawal was so bad he had a seizure and had to be rushed to the hospital. So anyone here considering detoxing on your own, keep that in mind I guess. Stay strong bros.

G-guys... s-s-she is going to s-save me one day, r-right? Right?? Starting to wonder why it’s taking her SO long ;_;
Fug.

Please stop posting pictures of my wife

Ok sorry user.

Cheeky little cunt

>tfw deepfakes is one of the best things that ever happened for porn
>everyone spergs out over them cuz muh involuntary pornography
Fucking normies ruin everything

2nd day sober after 4 unsuccessful taper attempts. Reading all this shit and posting constantly on al/ck/ threads fucked my head so badly i assumed i was going to get WDs and die from seizures.

I have never had WD before and have stopped massive 8 month every single day binges cold turkey with no problem.

What the fuck is a deepfake

>that apprehensive little wiggle she does at 2:04 though
holy christ just kill me now
youtube.com/watch?v=eAN_zVdQHNY

photoshop for videos. google plebbit deepfakes. can't really get into them myself but it's now very easy via new software to super-impose your waifu's face on a porn vid.

It's like that for the first few years if you're drunk pretty much all the time. The problem is that it damages your brain each time by way of something called neurological kindling. Suddenly you're shaking, hallucinating, throwing up, sweating, have horrendous insomnia and have anxiety like you'd never believed possible. Then the real fun begins, like psychosis, delirium tremens, seizures and not being alive any more. Enjoy.

i am 31 and have been doing this since i was 19 drinking the equivalent of a bottle of vodka worth of ethanol each day usually more.

I already have the anxiety and am on ativan so maybe that helps.

>ativan
yeah you'll largely avoid kindling if you're regularly using a benzo, it stimulates the same part of the brain as booze, so you can stop without melting your thinking tank. it'll be great fun stopping them both though.

I have a coworker whose brother has become a nonfunctional alcoholic due to the death of their mom.

Any idea what advice to give him, that he can take to his brother? He's a good guy and you can tell it's eating away at him.

>each day
also, if you're drinking all the time, you won't get kindling. i went to hosp a couple of years ago and i was told by a doc to "just keep drinking" for this very reason.

my brother is detoxing from them both right now. I'm so fucking worried about him.

fuck that shit, one thing at a time. without the ativan i am non functional. Fucking weird thing is i used to take xanax and valium all the time, dr prescribed me some in case i get WDs , took one the other night and thought i was going to die. It was like taking ketamine, so dissociated and out of it leaking sweat from my palms and feet. I thought this 5mg tablet was meant to be for housewives to recreationally take with their wine. Had to lie on the floor for 4 hours until the worst of it was over.

in a competent medical facility? if so he'll be fine. it's idiots like myself getting heavily addicted to multiple substances then going cold turkey at home who end up dying young.

Yes thankfully he's at a rehab facility. But we live on different continents and no one in our family is anywhere near him. I just wish I could be there for him.

Sorry to dump out my purse in your thread

If he's in rehab he'll likely be getting an appropriate, tapered dose of benzos. It's precarious as almighty hell to do it alone, hence all the horror stories online, but the vast majority of people in first-world countries getting pro help, are fine. Right up until they're released and they join the ~95% who relapse.

Just went through WD's on purpose because I'm sick of the shit cycle I've been living. Cold turkey. Everyone is different, but for me it was 3-4 days of suffering. Nausea, hot-cold sweats (hot sweats with that alcohol smell), equilibrium thrown off, little appetite, and general lethargy.

But I was determined. My strategy was as follows: hydrate like a motherfucker. Green tea with peppermint and ginger to help combat nausea. Basic OTC fever reducer when the hot-cold sweats get to be too much, and an anti nausea pill when the urge to puke gets too overwhelming. Forcing down bland foods--chicken soup, avocado, crackers. Bought two bottles of Pedialyte as well. Multi vitamin daily, along with B-complex and milk thistle.

All this combined with long steam showers and rest, just as if you had the flu. For me the nights were the hardest, as I used to get hammered to combat my insomnia. Went to bed stone cold sober every night. It sucked. But eventually I made it through. Haven't had or craved a drink since. In fact, I'm glad I'm not into poisoning myself like that anymore. Done. Good luck anons.

fucking hell., how much were you drinking and for how long?

Ativan comes in 0.5, 1mg and 2mg. So if you took a 5mg pill it either wasn’t an Ativan, you’re mistaken about the dosage, or you took several tablets at once. 5mg is a very high dose, like time travel tier. It sounds like you had an allergic reaction to it honestly, I would not take it again and I would tell your doctor so he can give you something else for WDs.

no i am on 1mg ativan no problem there, this was a 5mg valium tablet that wrecked me. Weird because i used to take them every single night. Actually would take a xanax 1mg and a valium 5mg minimum.

Then that may have been a benzo overdose due to buildup of the drugs in your system. Benzos are stored in fat cells like weed and can accumulate over time if you’re taking high dosages regularly. Or it may have been some strange drug interaction or medication issue with that particular batch of pills or some other sort of external factor. That’s a lot of benzos to take on a regular basis I would try to start tapering soon if you haven’t already

Anyone ever used promethazine/phenegran for WDs? I just had 2 and a half days of the worst horrors you could ever imagine after a 6 day bender then just today realised you could get the stuff over the counter here in the UK today. Seems like it would be ideal. I'm ordering some phenibut tonight as well partly just because I want to try it but also partly its another drug that sounds like it would have great utility in that kind of situation.

so far it's just been 1mg ativan per day for about a year and a half, the valium and xanax i stopped maybe 4 years ago. Seems strange that 1 valium could do so much damage