ITT: Irrefutable philosophers

ITT: Irrefutable philosophers

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

The true light, which gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
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St. John, the Apostle

>that no-necked jowl

That the guy who wrote the Dialectic of Enjowlenment?

The Frankfurt School is fucking pointless.

It blames Capitalism for damaging the lives of people in profound ways. While, in fact, the population of Germany enjoys some of the highest living standards and cultural freedom in the World, thanks to (a moderate, regulated variation of) Capitalism.

It also postulates that Antisemitism is a consequence of Capitalism, when, in fact, the Soviet Union was heavily discriminatory against Jews and other ethnic minorities.

DELET THIS

REFUTE THIS

Well their problem is not so much with capitalism per se, but rather its tendency to mechanise everything, meaning that people live on the terms of machines and not vice versa, and that something human is lost in the process. And consider how the Frankfurt school fetishised childhood, I'm not sure that current living standards is something that would impress them much.

High living standards in one country usually come at the cost of a lower standard in another.

That is a message Romanticism already conveyed, and did so better.
Meme. The living standards in all of Europe improved drastically after WW2. Globalization was not a thing yet back then, so this process had little effect on the Third World.

I'm just going to address what you got wrong without much detail. In all honesty it would be best if you'd read DoE since your post seems to be based on a misunderstanding.

>It blames Capitalism for damaging the lives of people in profound ways. While, in fact, the population of Germany enjoys some of the highest living standards and cultural freedom in the World, thanks to (a moderate, regulated variation of) Capitalism.

They're concerned with aspects of capitalism that are still present within society. They aren't talking about the accumulated wealth of a society, they're talking about things like the commodification of culture and the instrumentalization of reason in the work place.

> It also postulates that Antisemitism is a consequence of Capitalism, when, in fact, the Soviet Union was heavily discriminatory against Jews and other ethnic minorities.

They're not suggesting that capitalism is the only source of antisemitism. That would be insane considering our historical record. They're suggesting that capitalism is prone to produce the kind of antisemitism that will become an integral part of a fascist movement.

>they're talking about things like the commodification of culture and the instrumentalization of reason in the work place

I got it and found it to be legit criticism, albeit neither original, nor profound.

>They're suggesting that capitalism is prone to produce the kind of antisemitism that will become an integral part of a fascist movement.

This is simply a horribly wrong attribution, little more. Antisemitism in the West can be traced back into Middle Ages, when Capitalist modes of production and culture commodification were absent.

Today, the most Capitalist nations (USA, West Europe) are the least antisemitic, while antisemitism in the former Soviet republics is rampant.

> albeit neither original, nor profound.

Obviously the fact that there's some form of commodification and the fact that there's some form instrumentalization of reason isn't profound. However, the way their effects are elaborated upon and the way they're systematized is. Besides that they tie this constellation to 20th century antisemitism which is an idea that is obviously not present in romanticism. Again, just read DoE. Then you'll be able to produce a profound critique; or don't for all I care. I'm done here anyway after this reply.

> Antisemitism in the West can be traced back into Middle Ages, when Capitalist modes of production and culture commodification were absent.

Did you even read what I wrote in my last post? Here:

> They're not suggesting that capitalism is the only source of antisemitism. That would be insane considering our historical record.

> Today, the most Capitalist nations (USA, West Europe) are the least antisemitic, while antisemitism in the former Soviet republics is rampant.

1.) They're not suggesting that capitalism can only produce antisemitism. That was just the reference point they chose because they wrote DoE shortly after WW2. Any kind of minority can take the place of the Jews.

2.) They aren't arguing that capitalism produces antisemitism (or other isms) on a constant basis. In times of especially dire economical uncertainty and hardship it's more likely.

3.) Your point regarding the former soviet union is an odd one since it's currently a capitalist nation.

Theodore "fascists under the bed" Adorno would be the left wing Joseph McCarthy if he had that much power

*it currently consists of capitalist nations

wow

cant believe lit just destroyed adorno

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>he's so fucking retarded he can't even understand world-systems theory and the basic economics of imperialism

to the extent where it feels like he's always on like 5-7 magic mushrooms, yeah

this nigga tbhq fampai

Not that guy, but how would you argue that European standard of living was at the expense of other, poorer nations when the standard of living in almost every country has increased dramatically over the past 50 years? You mock him for his inability to understand imperialism when it seems you don't even understand capitalism, the prerequisite for imperialism according to Lenin.

Literally irrefutable.

So with communism we all would have low living standards. Brilliant.

What's people's opinion on who/what was/is The Word? Is he the holy spirit? Or is it supposed to be the Word or Law of God? Or both?

>technology as produced a society of feeble, anxiety-ridden faggots
>the solution to this is to mail-bomb gubmint employees
cant really see how the that follows from the premises but alright

the Logos

No Marx was wrong structural growth exists. Development CAN lead to higher standards of living all around. However this won't necessarily happen if corruption or bad governance occur.

It's God the Son (Jesus). Pretty clear when you get down a bit: "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

Have you read the Chronicles of Narnia? The word is the old law that saves Aslan. The word is the Devine principal in the universe to which the laws of both physics and morality must conform. God and the word are one.

Sperg-tastic post.

SAY THAT AGAIN YOU FUCKING BITCH

shut the fuck up christfag

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Voltaire would like a word with you

But it says pretty clearly at the start in the beginning there was the word. Jesus wasn't there at the beginning.

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Voltaire took the piss out of dumbass Leibnizians that had a crude understanding of Leibniz not ol Leiby himself

OP said irrefutable

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>The way we like, open a door, is totally fascist

Yes he was. His divine nature as the Logos was eternally begotten of God the Father and his human nature was begotten of the Virgin Mary. These two natures are united through what theologians call the Hypostatic Union. Christ is fully God and fully man simultaneously and Mary is the Theotokos (Mother of God).

now begome ordodox :DDD

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Add late Wittgenstein and early Heidegger.

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