Why couldn't Adorno realise that Jewishness IS Modernity?

Read Spengler.

You're confusing "civilization" with "culture". Two very different things.

I have and Spengler has nothing to do with this. Culture, civilization, and race are inseparable phenomena.

No, you haven't.

They will fall eventually, like a parasite that killed its host.

Well insofar as modernity begins with Spinoza, I suppose that's kind of true.

Recognizing that civilization is shit is not a nihilistic sentiment.

Not only is it a nihilistic statement, it is one that is only made by the weakest of nihilists. Do you know why civilization is shit? Are you aware that there is an alien tribe of desert psychopaths actively making it shit to demoralize already weak specimens like yourself? Civilization is a reflection of the men in charge of it, and will be as great as those men are. That gives you two choices: sit around complaining and calling it shit while not doing anything about it, or making yourself great and asserting your will over it in order to remove the jews making it shit and make it great.

>I have and Spengler has nothing to do with this. Culture, civilization, and race are inseparable phenomena.

I am against Jews AND civilization. Civilisation = Modernity.

No, thanks!

You don't seem very intelligent

imagine being this spooked holy shit

confirmed for not knowing adorno

Stop reading Nick Land.

White posters: have you seen this exact line before? This is how you can spot a jew. As an uncreative semite, the jew will always repeat the same line, or non-argument, or both, over and over.

Never read Land although he's on the reading list.

Well maybe you've absorbed his toxic outlook from someone else. If you are white and understand the jewish problem your natural inclination should be to save your civilization by stopping the jews destroying it, not condemn your civilization. That's foolish and unproductive.

joke's on you, i'm mexican
fucking lol if you think there ever was such a thing as an alliance of white people

I believe in saving culture (the flowering stage of society) not civilisation (the decaying stage).

He’s right you know, Germans aren’t humans.

>jews
>making it shit
>not whites in the red states voting against their interests voting for people who never worked a day in their life that do shit like pass immigration bills and cause refugee crisis.

So you're a low IQ jewish pet who was like a good wetback grunt merely repeating their message for them. One of the many reasons you don't belong in a civilized white society your people could never create.

So sitting back and watching it get destroyed instead of working to remove the entity causing the destruction. I'd think this through more.

>someone who unironically bellieves we live in a team jew vs team white world calling anyone low IQ

please define ''civilized white society''

Jazz is the sound of the nihilism sweeping through a generation that had just come back from a war with a country that systematically slaughtered men women in children, 1500 a day (treblinka). U bet your Jazz

The problem stems from the top, the jews corrupting our politicians and creating an environment that erodes our nation and allows corruptible people to hold office by being a stooge of this alien presence. Most whites just want to live their lives, only so much can be expected of them, though they certainly deserve blame.

A place low-functioning mud people like yourself don't belong.

Jewish culture is objectively superior to American culture. Judaism values education and the religious branches of it are highly spiritual, they are the only branch of abrahamism that don't believe outsiders will go to Hell and take the time to elaborate on issues how autistic people have a place in this world, where a brainlet culture like modern Christianity will simply denounce it as "demons" (I've seen this personally happen). The way American culture is at its current state is because nobody cares or gives a shit in the first place, this is the same culture that in the 80's, was trying to ban dungeon and dragons for being satanic.

All the Jews I've met both IRL and online have been fine people too. Much more interesting to have a real discussion with. Can you eleborate how they are destroying the Glorious and Mighty west?

*Sweeping through the united states. Unfortunately, it was only a matter of time since it infected the rest of the developed world.

Jazz existed decades before you holocaust you goober

>can't define civilized white society
>defends it anyways

Jewish culture involves memorizing incredibly disturbing passages about how jews are chosen to rule over the earth and how all non-jews are their slaves, while celebrating past genocides as holidays and pumping extreme paranoia into the community, from which derives the notion that they must constantly be on the attack against their foolishly grateful host. I don't know whether you're jewish or an uninformed goy, but there is no culture more sick and depraved than jewish culture, if you can even call it that. Others in the past going back as far as the Egyptians called it an anti-culture instead, which is much more accurate.

Civilized white society has been responsible for nearly all science and technology, the highest artistic accomplishments, and a civil structure based on important abstract principles that maximize freedom. Not sure why I'm bothering explaining it to a squatemalan like yourself though, other than many things you don't understand, appreciate, or deserve to be a part of.

Can you site some passages? The talmund also isn't an objective holy book, it's just a collection of rabbis arguing with each other iirc over various things, from furniture to how to celebrate holidays.

Babylonia had the code of laws and Israel had laws preventing the king from abusing his power thousands of years before the magna carta. You are probably a supremacist.

Simply put, I think civilization is only good for the domesticated masses and their leaders. And it is prone to subversion, prone to being run by those out for their own interests, hence why the Jews have come to sit on their throne.

How that relates to nihilism, I have no idea, please explain to me why you think it's nihilism. Saying civilization is pointless is nihilism.

>some garbage the jews shat out under captivity by the Babylonians is 'primal'

Try reading Nick Land

Of course Jewish culture is superior to American culture, because they made it shit. Compare 19th century America to present.

I'm asking you to define it, not wat it has accomplished, dumbass.
but anyways

>>Civilized white society has been responsible for nearly all science and technology, the highest artistic accomplishments
The average white doesn't give a fuck about science, much less art. These area's have been pushed forward by a small number of individuals, whites but also non-whites. Europe and america have had a society in which these individuals could strive and make their accomplishe, but they'd be rolling in their grave to see some braindead alt-righter claim those as his own.

areas*
accomplishements*

"Objective holy book"? I'm not going to copy and paste talmud passages for you but I encourage you to look them up yourself; the people we're talking about are the most backwards on the planet and most of what you think, or have been told, they are responsible for, say the stories in the bible, were literally stolen from ancient societies they subverted and destroyed then reworked for propaganda purposes. You don't understand jews as well as you think, they are very bad people; but I again encourage you to study them more in depth. And a good start would be to stop using fake jewish words like "supremacist."

You have to go back.

>Cutting off the text when they begin to explain the different cultures that are present in these societies
What did /pol/ mean by this?

nice graph, my point still stands

i already live in mexico, or else i wouldn't refer to myself as a mexican
the one who has to go back is you

>i'm going to say bold statements about an entire culture, no, an ethnicity of people and provide nothing to back it up

I thought Veeky Forums was supposed to be smarter than this and be above the other boards.

Different European cultures.

You didn't make a point. But good to the other part; stay there.

If you want to dispute something, dispute it; acting like a passive-aggressive female while not offering a counter-argument will not make the board presently underwhelming you any more refined.

>Different European cultures
Yeah, I'm sure Einstein was 100% white

Not him but you aren't disputing anything either, you're bringing up wide assumptions based on your emotions and a lack of knowledge about history.

Einstein was a jew and a fraud. You know he was considered stupid before he got a job in a Swiss patent office then suddenly became a genius, right?

No, I'm stating facts based on my extensive study of the issue.

Most modern scientific ideas aren't thought up by individuals

What have you read that has given you these "facts"?

>Most modern scientific ideas aren't thought up by individuals
Actually they are, overwhelmingly.

To the other part: a lot. The main issue I'm trying to elucidate here is the JQ, though. Your intellectual evolution, assuming you're interested in such a thing, begins there

>Actually they are, overwhelmingly.
I would like to see some of these then.

America was worse in the 19th century than it is now. There was all kinds of economic corruption (corporations that would enslave people which was common for mining companies) a civil war, and people were still complaining about immigrants. At least now, you make 7.50 an hour minimum

>Different European cultures
What do you make of Grothendieck then? He had a Hassidic father

What about him?

Concisely explain what "jewishness" is.

Everything i don't like

the rejection of nature

Modernity.

explain nature

He's considered a genius in the field of mathematics and is also jewish.

Sounds like some successful people.

OP here.

Unfortunately, my thread was derailed by a fucking moron who thinks Modernity is a good thing and equates European culture with Civilisation and thus equates Civilisation with Modernity. He then pushes the idea that Jews are anti-Modernity and that's what makes them bad.

However, my view is in complete contradistinction to this one.

I believe Civilisation (as Spengler did) to be the sign of decline from a flowering society in the form of *Culture* to that of stratification and Modernity in the form of *Civilisation*.

Jewishness for me IS Modernity and Jewishness (as was defined by Weininger) is a tendency of the mind and a spiritual state, albeit, a malformed one. This can thus be revealed in the Jewish tendency to be supporters of both Capitalism and Communism. Both systems of which are based entirely upon the Material.

The National Socialist brainlet in this thread is stuck in Conservative Plebeian-tier thinking and can't into the Perennial tradition.

This is an interesting post. I had never really noticed before that most whites do not support capitalism or communism.

Your thesis is so retarded that its literal opposite is true. Jewishness and modernity are polar opposites and you seem to have zero conception of how civilizations come about, who creates them, and who destroys them.