/SFFG/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

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Ladies [s]and gentlemen[/s], the management is please to bring you...
THE CHARTS
FANTASY
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SCIENCE FICTION
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries (incomplete, mostly pre-Millenium):
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Previously on 'All Roads Lead to "Book of the New Sun"':

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marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1934/07/23.htm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Belle_Sauvage
goodreads.com/book/show/6468594-fallen-dragon
whatever.scalzi.com/2017/10/02/2017-word-counts-and-writing-process/
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Just finished the time machine. Good read, shorter than I thought. I loved Wells' way of describing scenery and atmosphere; descriptive but not pretentious. As I was reading about the eloi and the morlocks(?), I feel as if he meant to portray a moral lesson about aristocracy and those below them but more often, I found more similarities to modern day progressives and how the world is slowly becoming like the elois.

Did I miss something?

>I read fantasy

>I read

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Noone here reads because life is a simulation so nothing is real. Checkmate.

Boy do I love themeless editions...

What are your opinions on modern horror?
Do you think there is too much "Lovecraftian" horror?
Opinions on Stephen King?
Opinions on other horror authors? Clive Barker? Ramsey Campbell? Thomas Ligotti?

You are right about the aristocracy themes. IMO Wells' best novel.
Have you read Jules Verne?
Both are actual dinosaurs, not young whippersnappers like Vance or Wolfe.

I have not. I hate to admit it but The Time Machine was the first fictional book I've read since high school; 12 years ago.

Where should I go next?

>What are your opinions on modern horror?
stale and unimaginative
>Do you think there is too much "Lovecraftian" horror?
overdone indeed.
>Opinions on Stephen King?
hack that lucked out a few times.
>Opinions on other horror authors? Clive Barker? Ramsey Campbell? Thomas Ligotti?
some are good some are bad. either way having more authors increases the likelyhood something good will emerge from the pile of shit.

What interests you? I could give you some pointers.

Well the time machine was great, couldn't put it down. I also loved the Hatchet in school but not exactly sci-fi. Someone mentioned Dune before and it seemed interesting.

I'm pretty open to most things except high fantasy for some reason. Just not that interested.

If you're going to go into Dune, take a look at this chart.

If you haven't read in a while I suggest you take a look at shorter novels, such as The Stars My Destination, Lord of Light, or The Martian Chronicles.

What's your favorite period then?
Turn of the century, with Bram Stoker, Arthur Machen, and Robert W. Chambers?
Pulp era, with H. P. Lovecraft, Clark Ashton Smith, and William Hope Hodgson?
The 40s and 50s, with Richard Matheson, Ray Bradbury, and Shirley Jackson?

honestly yes. pulp era was the one that appealed the most to me. but then again. the first ever real horror books i read were shadow over innsmouth and the king in yellow.

>Vance's latest novel came out in 1994
>Wolfe's latest came out while Donald Trump was running for president
I don't know why anyone acts like they're dinos.

Excellent taste monsieur. I personally have a soft spot for the 40s and 50s for sffg in general.

Because one is old and one is dead?

Moorcock is old and Banks is dead and Pratchett is both but you don't see anyone calling them dinosaurs.

...except they do.
All the time.

Oh awesome, thanks a bunch. I saw some guys here crapping on the series but I get the feeling they were just being Veeky Forums contrarians. I'm definitely going to check this out.

Cool.

The golden rule is: if the author is older than your mum, he's a dino.

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So REH and Lovecraft aren't dinosaurs?

Just a thought: Have you ever considered making a blog and giving a review to each of the books on your chart? I'd be interested in reading it.

Why do people shill the blade itself so much

I liked it as a teenager, then reread it a few month ago (in english this time), and while it does posess certain qualities, Abercrombie tries so hard to go for the 'muh dark muh edgy & gritty' thing that all his characters end up being caricatures of themselves and the plot really contrived, and the final reversal he just pulls out of his ass.

No idea who REH is, but Lovecraft is a dino. My mum is old, but not that old.

I thought you were talking of the physical age they reached. REH is Robert E. Howard, who shot himself at 30.

>Peter brett has kids fucking now
So trannies, cp, cuckolding, ss, femdom, virgin, rape, anal, inpregnantion, birth, tomgirl, tomboy, incest,
What other tags does brett have in his books?

piss-soaked eunuchs?

Which writers are the best at taking you 'out of time' with their prose, that is at writing a narrative/dialogue that is removed from contemporary lingo? Apart from Wolfe and his tricks.

I know it's a meme but the original Dune got it right. Herbert was a genius.

Yeah, Dune was good at that.

Thinking about reading man in the high castle.

Any good?

Dick's a shit writer and a visionary

Read song of susannah recently and I suppose King did an ok job there with that kind of thing even if some of the mannerisms are directly lifted.

How are you finding the Dark Tower so far?

I stopped reading Dark Tower at book two, it was the most contrived piece of shit like all of King's work.

TWO's prose is anything but contemporary.

It's hard for his characterizations not to get under the skin, especially Roland but his villains always for me end up cartoonish. Having said that SoS did work for me as a tragedy and in general I've been enjoying the series more as it's went on despite some of the allusions to other literary works being way past on the nose.

This is with sporadic progress over the years but I might just knuckle down and finish it before 2018.

can you expand on this?

High Castle is his best-styled novel though (it was the only one that was properly edited, and it shows).

He's a shit prose stylist with some great ideas, like refrigerator DLC in Ubik

Whenever he paints a scene with multiple characters I have a hard time to muster any sort of interest in the narrative itself and the dialogue is downright terrible.

But I find it among the least interesting of his ideas.

>tfw you finally get stuck into the writers mind set and begin producing quality work

Post a sample for us user

hit us, nigga

i me

>/ss/
Elaborate.

What is the Titanfall of literature?

Any of you bros read The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu? I just finished it. Fucking loved it.

Dude I just finished the Bloodsong main series. Are the spin-offs worth it? I got kinda worn out by the end and the ending of the last book left a poor taste in my mouth.

dropped after the 2nd book with no regrets

If I had it to do all over again I would have too.

Wells was a socialist / communist, so yeah.

He interviewed Joseph Stalin.

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1934/07/23.htm

>Just a thought: Have you ever considered making a blog and giving a review
goodreads is my city

Leasha paper's whore mother and the son of Steve

Need a name for a fantasy drug. Something you can grow. Preferably a berry.

Khulatine, derived from khula berries

Paralladat
Sharmanot
Twissdif

Read it about a year go. Sometimes I think 3/5; sometimes 4/5. very solid. I appreciated it more for the modern/cultural revolution contrasts than for the Centauran world.

Also the premise is somewhat silly. "We can't find a closed-form solution to a large, 3-mass system" durr just solve it numerically...

The coolest part in my mind was the "construction" of the proton AIs; and in particular the failures much more than the successes.

Yeah I saw that he was a socialist, which is why I thought it was interesting. Perhaps it's me being a paleolibertarian that's making me have a bias and twisting it for my own world view

Thanks

I also need a name for a tribal civilization / language / capitol city, the names of which are all related

Twil/Twi/Twilo

Holy shit this was way better than I expected.

Also
>tfw you never live in high-technology space habitats governed by a nigh immortal benevolent dicatator whose sole goal is moar science, disregard money and politics

Yeah, same. For a few paragraphs I thought the construction accidents would be the "twist", with the Trisolaran "invaders" actually fleeing from the extradimensional beings they'd unleashed.

>But I find it among the least interesting of his ideas.

It was a much fresher idea in 1962. And while it might be below average from him, it's far from his worst.

Is The Book of Dust any good? Is it better than His Dark Materials? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Belle_Sauvage

I'm reading The Forever War by Hoe Haldeman right now. I think I'm at chapter twelve, there about to fuck some space ghost, coast to coast style.

I've been meaning to read that so maybe I'll start now. Fallen Dragon was a fun read.

goodreads.com/book/show/6468594-fallen-dragon

Sorry anons, you'll have to wait for the final product.

Which will be spammed here endlessly until anons literally shit themselves.

Gared was a good dude, getting manipulated by the paper roasties most of his life

Just finished the Broken Empire trilogy. I really enjoyed it, but did anyone think the ending could have been done slightly better?

The last book in general was definitely the weakest of the three, which is a shame because King was excellent.

Is one book better than three? No. But it’s pretty good. Worth it if you like HDM

I'm inclined to agree. The good news is The Red Queen's war is overall a better series imo.

Some short stories collection called Road Brothers also just got re-issued with more content but never read it.

I live on the Great North Road, does it represent newcastle well?

Underappreciated but excellent?
The Thing Itself

Made me laugh harder than it should of
Doncaster reporting in

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what is the BattleTech of literature?

Only one was manipulating him. And that same one manipulated their daughter into accepting the cucking of her father, and the hints to also cuck her own spouse. At least gared married an actual whore now that wouldn't share, so thats good. And she doesn't look like she would mess up a good thing by cucking the new baron.

Boy I sure do love me some philosophy with my giant mech robots nuking shit.

Who is a good horror author in your opinion?

The book is already a pop-culture reference, what's your point?

Iron Gold fucking when?

>I can't write while DRUMPF is President

Is this going to become a regular thing for authors?

whatever.scalzi.com/2017/10/02/2017-word-counts-and-writing-process/
Yes.

This is so repulsive to me, and I can't even articulate why.

He's right about one thing. He certainly can't write.

Did he really say that?

Is there a bigger meme fantasy author?

rowling.
>hermoine was never white

Odds on them being rapists? They are male feminists after all.

Theu raped my brain while reading their shitty books if that counts.

I've read very few book in my life. I've read Guardians of Ga'Hoole, the Abhorsen trilogy, the God of Clocks books, Battle Royale, like 5 Halo books, House of Scorpion, The Hobbit, and Bram Stoker's Dracula. Out of all of these, the ones I enjoyed the most were the Abhorsen books, but I want to move on to something for an older audience that gives me the same feeling of adventure and has something new and interesting like the distinction between Charter and Free magic. I'm not even sure /why/ I liked them, as I'm not good at understanding that sort of thing, but I know I'd like more stuff like them.

>I've read Guardians of Ga'Hoole, the Abhorsen trilogy, the God of Clocks books, Battle Royale, like 5 Halo books, House of Scorpion, The Hobbit, and Bram Stoker's Dracula

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Pick something and enjoy.

>reading books

hey FAGGOT. spotted something wrong with your list

No Simak.

So for 's sake. Mentally add every book by Simak onto that list, and then forget everything else and read a Simak book.

can I get a retardation check on an idea?

AU noir story where instead of banning alcohol, prohition banned caffeine.