Might makes right

>might makes right

Is anyone here able to argue against this notion?
And I mean it both in the meta-ethical/descriptive sense (i.e. the genealogy of morals leads back to whoever detains power ascertaining his will as goodness) and the ethical/normative sense (whoever detains power is justified in ascertaining what's right or wrong)

*weinstein unzips*

*stirner inserts*

>might doesn't make right
>beats the shit out of you
Now what?

So if a mob bands together their might makes right?

Enjoy living in an elephant seal society.

Might: It is right for humans to follow their pleasures incessantly. It pleases me to kill others. Genocide pleases me greatly.

Is he right?

that's literally democracy tho

*blocks your path*

Might is the shortest distance to moral supremecy.
However it leaves little in providing an deeper meaning than i told you so.
So what happens when the one with supreme moral authority starts doubting himself, doubting what really makes him right?
Does he beat himself up?
Or does his ego?

Its a morality that eats itself.
Cannot sustain itself indefinitly.
Example:two powers vie for supremecy, in an age of MAD. Words fail, so they both drop bombs, wiping each other out. Leaving the subjugated survivors and whats left of those who stayed out of conflict.


Ofc. Might and force is pretty vague.

pretty unfortunate huh

The 'philosophy' discussion on this board is fucking hilarious lmaooooo

Op's question is pretty legit though

Not really, it's a rock-solid metaphysics.

>one person is a huge but strong dick, uses might to set the rules for others (Chad)
>people tread on by Chad mob up and use their accumulated might to overthrow, now they are in the right
>others, jealous of this original group form their own groups
>these groups form internal contracts to keep integrity in might-maximization strategy
>societies of geographically separate groups develop
>is now
>might makes right

Morality exists because god exists.

>exists.
To exist means to stand out, like a figure stands out from a background

against what background does God stand out against?

also proof sounds like poof so pic related
>give that man an Oscar

Thrasymakhos pls go

>what background does God stand out against
Quanquam sane hoc prima fronte non est omnino perspicuum, sed quandam sophismatis speciem refert. Cum enim assuetus sim in omnibus aliis rebus existentiam ab essentia distinguere, facile mihi persuadeo illam etiam ab essentia Dei sejungi posse, atque ita Deum ut non existentem cogitari. Sed tamen diligentius attendenti fit manifestum, non magis posse existentiam ab essentia Dei separari, quam ab essentia trianguli magnitudinem trium ejus angulorum æqualium duobus rectis, sive ab idea montis ideam vallis: adeo ut non magis repugnet cogitare Deum (hoc est ens summe perfectum) cui desit existentia (hoc est cui aliqua perfectio), quam cogitare montem cui desit vallis.

When he refers to god here he's referring to axioms, right?

t.brainlet

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Wow, Jordy, outing yourself as a """"""""""philosopher"""""""""" who has never read Kant? Absolutely repugnant, and questionable from a vantage of career security.

Why must what happens be what should happen?

>To exist means to stand out, like a figure stands out from a background
He stands out without the need of a background

>Is anyone here able to argue against this notion?
P1: "Right" is a value judgement.
P2: Value judgements imply perspectives.
C1: A thing is only "right" from a particular perspective(s).
P3: There is no universal perspective.
C2: A thing cannot be universally "right."

Jack Donovan is a flaming homosexual

all your premises lie on very shaky grounds lmao
also op talked about normativity, not universality; you can have normative, particular ethical claims

Even worse: his conclusion is congruent with and supports the metaethical notion that might makes right.

>P3: There is no universal perspective.

P1. Proof is impossible without an axiom
P2. You need an axiom
P3. ?????????????
C. God exists

Are school shooters justified?

Since the nation (which controls the laws) is the mightiest, no.

I think he means that the first axiom, that is to say the first mover or proposition, is, as a matter of fact, God.

Really though, just look at this fag

It's settled, then? Might makes right?

>YFW you realize Harvey Weinstein put his kike penis inside Emma.

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Awwww Emma is so cute! I just wanna boop her lil poopies so much
>mfw

So, you shouldn't ever fight the status quo? To even consider it would be going against what's right.