/SFFG/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

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What's your pick and why isn't it FF7

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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries (incomplete, mostly pre-Millenium):
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Fuck, so much I need to rewrite, but I have to press forward

Rephrasing question from a few threads back.
I need some novels where an empire expands by converting people into some religion. Most fantasy novels keep that in the background as a plot point, but I'd really like to get into the theological discussion that takes place in a world where there may be many gods, or maybe it's just creatures with super powers, who the fuck knows?

I havn't read any sci-fi for a few years, I mostly enjoy space operas and hard sci-fi like Alastair Reynolds, Steven Baxter, Iain M Banks and Peter Hamilton etc. Can any anons recommend any exciting, easy-to-read and awe-inspiring new-ish novels in the vein of the authors I listed above? Thank you in advance!

Finally I am early

Best SF vidya is SOMA. Any Watts fans really oughtta watch a playthrough of it.

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>What's your pick and why isn't it FF7
Don't care much for jrpg

Remember to put the thread title in lowercase next time so my filter deletes the thread, you ass,

Better filter my trip 'cause I'm gonna post all 2e4 variations of sFFg now.
>>/outerlit/

Or you could, I dunno, play it yourself?

hey this is actually very good and thanks to the user who recommended it to me a couple weeks back

Count to a Trillion. m'lady

>What's your pick and why isn't it FF7
Because FF7 is boring and tedious and spends way too long trying to convince me I'm emotionally invested in any of the characters, while Deus Ex is exciting and tense and got me to read The Man Who Was Thursday.

Then again, I played Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri so much I can now quote a bunch of famous philosophers, so there's that.

>Count to a Trillion
Thanks. Sound abit American, any Euro/Brit recommends?

You just listed all the famous Scot SF writers. Maybe Adam Roberts then, Stone sounds more like what you're looking for.

this any good?

Do you know some good sci-fi or fantasy books with a female protagonist?
I've read "Reclamation" by Sarah Zettel. It's a good book but unfortunately it's a bit confused: there are too many names and, sometimes, the style is not very simple. But I've liked the mix of sci-fi and fantasy.

What do you think of the books by Pat Cadigan, Ann Leckie and Elizabeth Moon?

>#1 new shit shit shit shit
WHO NOES

Mistborn, Paksenarrion, Nevernight Chronicles, Sabriel, The Traitor Baru Cormorant, Red Sister

Well, the cover looks good, and it kind of reminds me of feast of crows, I dont know what's the book about but judging it by the cover, this book loks like the kind of stuff that I would grab on the book store and consider for a couple of minutew if I should buy it or not, wether I do it or I don't I wouls take a quick photo of the cover for later use, like making a search on google about the book itself and maybe (just maybe, not always) look for the pdf on the iņternet

>look for the pdf on the iņternet
you naughty boy

Also, Babel-17.

wat

divine cities

Do you know post-apocalyptic books (or sci-fi books) with a mix of fantasy and science fiction?

Veeky Forums do you know if anything has been written where its a mad max or fallout, post apocalypse type thing, except on the steppe instead of the desert and with tanks?

Could just be a fantasy world too, as long as its about a tank crew adventuring across a vast steppe.

Would also be cool if it had cozy parts around a campfire with the crew too.

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Do we? DO we?

The Broken Empire and The Red Queen's War.

lèl

The Dark Tower series is kind of hard to classify, but it's definitely post apocalyptic with a mix of everything.

A World Out of Time by Larry Niven could qualify.

Do you by any chance play world of thanks sir?

The Crimson Queen

What the fuck is his problem?

Saved

No desu. Should I?

Thanks for telling me, I will use alterations next time I make the thread.
>they actually discuss books
>let me filter them
I wonder if you filter the other shit that anons post in outer lit. I'm guessing not, maybe you don't want to post in here because your previous attempts to subvert the thread lead to a ban?

>Babel-17.
>recommending the scat, buggery, rape, gay, brutal gay rape, pedo, golden shower loving, cucking, orgie, pegging, scat eating author

>newsfront
Stormfront renamed to avoid bad press?

it's YA so no

Land fit for Heroes, Dark Tower

Isn't that a Goodreads reviewer?

Is steampunk a genre with real literary presence or a glorified aesthetic that mostly exists in gaming?

The latter. The only good steampunk book I've ever read is Against the Day by Thomas Pynchon.

Every *punk genre only exists as a glorified aesthetic for games.

Alastair Reynolds and Steven Baxter did a collaboration, The Medusa Chronicles. I thought it was pretty interesting.

No. Play War thunder before World of Tanks, but if you can, neither.

Let's judge fictional works by their creators!

>Don't judge a book by its cover
>Don't judge a book by its author
What if I don't want to invest time reading every single book before judging them when I know that the fact the author is a person I find repugnant increases the risks that I dislike the book as well?
And it's not even a matter of having opinions different than the author's. Her >implying whole appearance revolves around shoving said opinions in people's faces. Why would I ignore the risk that the book didn't magically escape the same process, especially when I always have a list of books I want to read next?

Quantum Thief

Has this leaked online yet?

I know some user's got lucky, but my brick and mortars are honoring the release date and that chaps my ass.
I need my fix.

ain't on my tracker at least

Synopsis for way of Kings sounds interesting, but the only fantasy series I've read have been Game of Thrones and Harry Potter when I was but a child.

Would you reccommend it for a newbie?

that's a bit too specific to exist outside your head

what are the best star wars books? I've read Rule of Two but it was kinda meh. Are there any better? Old republic era, canon, and eu are all fair game if they're good enough.

Have heard from someone I trust the Plagueis book is probably the best, any anons agree?

Hard to say. The prose certainly isn't a barrier but autismal world-building and magic systems aren't everyone's cup of tea. They're also stupidly long.

Kaladin's arc is a decent hook however.

I would love to say yes. Sanderson is a master of the craft, and Stormlight is his magnum opus. Dude was selected to finish Wheel of Time. He's good, and he keeps improving.

However, you need to trust him.

WoK throws a lot at you, and explains very little at first. The first time I picked it up, I couldn't make it past the first hundred pages. I was so lost in the world and I didn't know what the fuck was going on. But, I eventually pushed through and at around the quarter-mark it was a magnificent rollercoaster and I couldn't put it down. Then I powered through Words of Radiance. Then I was distraught to learn I broke a promise to myself: never start an unfinished series. I've been counting down the days until Oathbringer ever since it got a release date.

Sanderson himself admits that Stormlight takes a little time and trust before it sucks you in. If you don't know how to feel about that, maybe give Mistborn a try. It's an earlier work, so it's not as polished as Stormlight, but that's much easier to get into. If it tickles your fancy, you'd be delighted to hear that Sanderson has a bunch of books all in a shared universe (the Cosmere) and there's a background narrative that drives the whole thing. Although, you don't need to read every series to appreciate any given book.

I never thought I would be a nerd about magic systems (best I know of), or worldbuilding, or fantasy for that matter (SciFi is my shit). But this fucking guy made a believer out of me.

tl;dr- maybe

Sanderson is very easy to read in terms of storytelling and prose. But his books are extremely long and take a while to come together. One of the main appeals of his books is the world building, not just the size and originality of it, but the fact that he knows how to properly build suspense and mystery surrounding his setting. So that you end up craving more information about his world and want to solve its mysteries. Once he has his world building hooks in you you're his hostage and will probably end up liking a few his characters as you go as well, though characters are less his strong suit.

I only ever read the Timothy Zahn stuff and this was years ago but fair enough. He recently did another Thrawn book so that's probably alright?

Star Wars general on Veeky Forums probably better place to ask.

lern2regex muh lad

Where do i start with Moorcoock?

I can't decide if I should go on reading this. I like the prose, and the whole premise of gods leaving the world is cool, but so far all I'm getting is some real generic characters and dialogue mixed in with all this Germanic culture shit which I'm not a fan of. Can anyone tell me if I should go on if I'm not into it thus far? If so, can I get some incentivizing spoilers or something?

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Wikipedia says that West Texas is a steppe. This might bear some resemblance to your request.

I like the X-Wing series.

I have a toaster and its a walking simulator. I did buy it during the GOG sale though.

He's pompous. His only review I really disagree with is his "muh soggy knees" BotNS review.

Shits fucked everyone’s fucked, unless they’re a strong independent woman

That's all I needed, user. Thanks.

>top grace of kings review moaning about no women

how's that work? All I remember is wall to wall female mary sues.

None, really. He's spot on most of the time. Did you get hurt because someone dared to disagree with your shit taste?

Read the first half of the first book of the previous trilogy based in the same universe

Ugly girl with freckles/acne gains a power and is in a love traingle with the strongest mage in the world (Tall dark and brooding) and her best friend who grew up with her in an orphanage.

TL:DR no

Excerpt from the beginning of The Black Abbot of Puthuum, A Zothique tale of adventure and black sorcery that's not unlike something from Fritz Leiber's Fafhrd and Gray Mouser:

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Zobal the archer and Cushara the pikebearer had poured many a libation to their friendship in the sanguine liquors of Yoros and the blood of the kingdom's enemies. In that long and lusty amity, broken only by such passing quarrels as concerned the division of a wine-skin or the apportioning of a wench, they had served amid the soldiery of King Hoaraph for a strenuous decade. Savage warfare and wild, fantastic hazard had been their lot. The renown of their valor had drawn upon them, ultimately, the honor of Hoaraph's attention, and he had assigned them for duty among the picked warriors that guarded his palace in Faraad. And sometimes the twain were sent together on such missions as required no common hardihood and no disputable fealty to the king.

Now, in company with the eunuch Simban, chief purveyor to Hoaraph's well-replenished harem, Zobal and Cushara had gone on a tedious journey through the tract known as Izdrel, which clove the western part of Yoros asunder with its rusty-colored wedge of desolation. The king had sent them to learn if haply there abode any verity in certain travelers' tales, which concerned a young maiden of celestial beauty who had been seen among the pastoral peoples beyond Izdrel. Simban bore at his girdle a bag of gold coins with which, if the girl's pulchritude should be in any wise commensurate with the renown thereof, he was empowered to bargain for her purchase. The king had deemed that Zobal and Cushara should form an escort equal to all contingencies: for Izdrel was a land reputedly free of robbers, or, indeed, of any human inhabitants. Men said, however, that malign goblins, tall as giants and humped like camels, had oftentimes beset the wayfarers through Izdrel, that fair but ill-meaning lamiae had lured them to an eldritch death. Simban, quaking corpulently in his saddle, rode with small willingness on that outward journey; but the archer and the pike bearer, full of wholesome skepticism, divided their bawdy jests between the timid eunuch and the elusive demons.

Without other mishap than the rupturing of a wine-skin from the force of the new vintage it contained, they came to the verdurous pasture-lands beyond that dreary desert. Here, in low valleys that held the middle meanderings of the river Vos, cattle and dromedaries were kept by a tribe of herders who sent biannual tribute to Hoaraph from their teeming droves. Simban and his companions found the girl, who dwelt with her grandmother in a village beside the Vos; and even the eunuch acknowledged that their journey was well rewarded.

Damn CASbro, you've already finished your BotNS reread?

Also, will you post an excerpt of every CAS story you read? That'd be pretty cool.

I'm having a small break between Shadow Of The Torturer and Claw Of The Conciliator with some random short stories. I'lll probably start Claw on Monday.

That's what I've been doing with CAS for a while, but I'd already read a good number of them before I started. Still there are a good deal of stories left. He was extremely prolific in the medium in order to provide for two elderly and ailing parents. Once I've exhausted the Fantasy Masterworks collection I'll be hunting down the lesser collected stuff.

>What's your pick and why isn't it FF7
Possibly because I've not played it. The one that gave me the best sci-fi feeling was probably the first Mass Effect. It wasn't as fun or interesting as say KotOR or BG&E but the feeling of exploring space was incredible.

Ann Leckie is good enough to be read worthy, don't know about the other two.

Don't read this, it's really nothing special. The first half is a decent coming of age story but then it goes to shit with a generic war between magic and science where there's literally no difference between the two and the only reason people do stuff is "because".

First time I heard about him, I don't really agree with him giving GOT 1/5 but his review is well written and this line is almost as good as Rothfuss' fan mail response:
>The problem is when people who are not comfortable with their own sexuality start writing about it, which seems to plague every mainstream fantasy author. Their pen gets away from them, their own hangups start leaking into the scene, until it's not even about the characters anymore, it's just the author cybering about his favorite fetish--and if I cyber with a fat, bearded stranger, I expect to be paid for it.

Oh that was him? I remember this.

>vidya

Elite

That would be great if it weren't literally a Jewish power fantasy

Any recs for some good heroic fiction or S&S by modern day authors? Preferably no longer than 450pgs in length. Doorstoppers kill me. Indie recs are ok.

Would manga/light novels be an acceptable answer?

Wolf of the North. Straightforward stuff. Also not fantasy but Cornwell's Saxon Stories are so elemental it might as well be.

Never really looked at em, so... sure!

>jews can't have fun

What are some good escapist bookaroos?

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Does she fuck the dragon?

This is kind of vague...

What do you mean by "escapist"?

>started with Locke Lamora anyway
>first "chapter" is cringeworthy as fuck
Damn, I might regret this.

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I really like Malazan.

Kaladin got nearly insufferable for a while during WoR though. Adolin on the other hand has grown on me a lot, and his arc going forward seems the most interesting.

in the fire of industry
... the forests will fall
"WE WILL DRIVE THE MACHINE OF WAR WITH THE SWORD AND THE SPEAR AND THE IRON FIST"

Tolkien was not subtle at all haha

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No, but if I recall correctly they wingman for each other (the dragon's a female) and they both get dreamy husbands of their own species.

Actually, I want to reread. Rewrede. Those were a lot of fun.

I mean, I did try to warn you.... sorry user. You’ll never get that time back.

Should /sffg/-related writing be discussed here? The rest of the board barely stands us because "genre fiction is not art and all writing should be art REEEEEEEEE" but I wouldn't want the discussion of already established fantasy poluted by 20 different anons posting their own shit.

Any Ideas?

Being at the Somme colors your perspective.
>tfw the very first time Frodo sees combat leaves him with an invisible wound that fills his heart with sorrow for the rest of his life
Tolkien knew what he was talking about.

There's an autistic meme-user that will reee just as hard at you but we still talk about it now and then, though judging by your WoW art and general infamiliarity with these threads I doubt yours'll be any good.

We should seriously direct aspiring authors to the dead discord more. Here. discord.gg/KxPGpmU Some of those zombies are sure to have thoughts.