Has anyone read this? Are there any valuable ideas here? Is it anything other than relabelled fascism...

Has anyone read this? Are there any valuable ideas here? Is it anything other than relabelled fascism? (like Dugin's wikipedia tells me)

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nationalreview.com/article/380614/dugins-evil-theology-robert-zubrin
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youtube.com/watch?v=oo64nlKdA0k
youtube.com/watch?v=fiaWsgtJrNI
counter-currents.com/2014/09/dugin-contra-liberalism/
counter-currents.com/2014/09/dugin-on-ethnicity-vs-race/
youtube.com/watch?v=yvBl1sg8_j0
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It's essentially dark-enlightenment. It argues for an authoritarian (he suggests Monarchy by divine right) style form of government. I won't tell you directly what I believe that it means, but I believe that added fuel to what we consider the "alt-right"

it isn't Fascist. Dugin argues against Fascism because Fascism attempted to fit in the framework of modernity just like Capitalism and Communism. Dugin even rejects the scientific method completely. It's an interesting read, however. There actually isn't a fourth political theory, and Dugin just prescribes completely dismantling the new world order and reorganizing certain parts of the world into their own poles. Obviously he wants Russian hegemony

Dugin actively works with a lot of these so called alt-rightists. It isn't hard to tell either, they're all Kremlinboos

Just gonna leave this here.
nationalreview.com/article/380614/dugins-evil-theology-robert-zubrin

I have it but I haven't read it, I did read a small paragraph though about leftwing conservatism which I thought was pretty good.

>National Review

bump of curiosity

fascinating stuff tfp

Though I was entranced by him some years ago, his questionable radicalism and blatant vitriol against the "Little Russians" is more than concerning. The fact is Dugin excels at deluding western reactionaries. We fall for his mystic wisdom and exotic charm. It's easy to see him as an ally when he rails against the excesses of modernity. Yet behind the mask lurks a ravenous imperialist bent on subjegating Europe to the will of the Kremlin. He would like nothing more than to complete the work of the Soviet Union (i.e. wrestling control of the World-Island) While the Russians may seem like natural allies, especially when juxtaposed against the likes of Brussels, and the forces of global capital in general, they remain a wolf in sheeps clothing. I fear that populist right are nothing more than useful idiots for Dugin and his ilk.

Nonetheless, the ideas put forth in the the 4PT remain intriguing. By positing a sort of syncretic political ideology, he calls to move past the tired forms of yesteryear. As this century matures it is becoming clear that the old dividing lines are collapsing. Though the outline is fuzzy, we have yet to determine what will emerge. Whatever it may be, it seems likely that the those akin to Evola will triumph over the Jüngerites. If this is the case, the European right will (if it hasn't already) align itself with Russia. Again, I am concerned that Dugin's esoteric musings are nothing more than a means to an end.

Go ahead user, eviscerate this biased analysis.

>Dugin's esoteric musings
like what?

I'm usually pretty lenient towards Russia in that I don't really care what they do. I don't really see them as an enemy of the US, and I think democrats are basically making up a Russian interference narrative regarding the election.

That being said, if Dugin is really as big of an impact on Putin as this article claims I find that very concerning. Honestly his anti-Logos death of the world stuff bothers me more than facism and communism talking points.

Just dig a bit, Dugin's traditionalism is laced with references to some sort of esoteric knowledge that needs to be rediscovered.

>In all of this, one can see a tacit consensus among Traditionalists that Christianity is nothing more than a reduced, incomplete tradition whose esotericism has been practically lost, and whose metaphysical content cannot be detached from the dense veil of exoteric scholastic theology and the hazy subjective intuitions of mystics. All attempts to identify any consistency between the basic principles of Christianity and the conceptual categories of other, more metaphysically developed traditions (primarily Hinduism) have yielded rather poor results and have been based on strained interpretations and biased urges to arrive at any cost at conclusions which match Guénon’s own ideas

4pt.su

ultradweeb

What, you want the world to end? Why not just off yourself instead of taking everyone with you?

There are actual jewish shills on Veeky Forums. Huh. Part of me always knew, but you never really can tell on boards like /pol/.

>I don't want the world to end
>JUDEN. FUCKING JEW SHILL

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Helter Skelter and Sieg Fucking Heil.

youtube.com/watch?v=oo64nlKdA0k

lol. That article is just about how it could be useful to look at Orthodoxy through the lens of Western approaches to metaphysics.

The alternative is that you're such a brainlet you fall for boomer-targeted neo-con propaganda.

The world as we knew it has been effectively defaced beyond all recognition. The internet had an effect on our psyche comparable to that of the trenches on the WWI generation. being an edgelord is my religion.

youtube.com/watch?v=fiaWsgtJrNI

Text has all the reasons America needs to perish.
>Americans projecting
Stop helping the antichrist build its third temple in Jerusalem.

Get on my level; I see mercy as an act of cruelty.

"Heiser then proceeds to dissect Dugin’s political and geopolitical ideology of Eurasianism. The core idea of this is that “liberalism” (by which Dugin means the entire Western consensus) represents an assault on the traditional hierarchical organization of the world. Repeating the ideas of Nazi theorists Karl Haushofer, Rudolf Hess, Carl Schmitt, and Arthur Moeller van den Bruck."

Dugin is a certified idiot.

>whose metaphysical content cannot be detached from the dense veil of exoteric scholastic theology and the hazy subjective intuitions of mystics
what the fuck

This whole book and the ideology it represents was demolished in a series of articles that are no longer available online. Let me see if they've been cached somewhere.

counter-currents.com/2014/09/dugin-contra-liberalism/
counter-currents.com/2014/09/dugin-on-ethnicity-vs-race/

hi user, can you expound on what you mean by Jüngerites? thank you

>He is against Logos
That's not at all what I saw. He said Logos is gone from the modern world, hence we must look into Chaos.
This is in principle, the monomyth.

It depends on what you expect from the reading.

If you're a globalist and believe in the destruction of nation states, the dismantlement of the polarity of cultures and ethnicities, tradition, religion, and everything that had shaped the human condition in its own historical plurality across the world outside of the material world, then don't bother with it. You either won't get what he talks about in the book, or waste your time reading a book that goes completely against the ideals you stand for.

On the other hand, if you're someone that cares about things that go beyond the material aspects of society, then you most likely will consider it a good read.

The book is an invitation to think out of the box, to fight against the things that were accepted as the only way forward up to very recently.

Most shills on this board won't agree with that and even try keeping you from reading this book so you won't digest the ideas he throws out in the air during the reading, but the fact that the multipolarity of the world is essential to the survival of russia as a nation doesn't exclude the importance of the concepts he describes in the book to the entire world as a whole.

He talks a lot about heidegger and alain de benoist, so if you want to understand his books it would be good if you would make some research about these guys beforehand. You don't need to read their books prior to reading this book though, but it would be easier for you to understand what he talks about if you read something about them on wikipedia or something before you start reading it.

Dugin is a good writer and his ideas are not farfetched. He is very relevant to modern and contemporary geopolitics.

>>If you're a globalist and believe in the destruction of nation states, the dismantlement of the polarity of cultures and ethnicities, tradition, religion, and everything that had shaped the human condition in its own historical plurality across the world outside of the material world, then don't bother with it. You either won't get what he talks about in the book, or waste your time reading a book that goes completely against the ideals you stand for.
Great, so I don't have to read it! Next!

You may also skip the greeks and the romans
Go straight ahead to john green and derrida, will suit you best (no meme advice)

Thanks for the advice! You make sure you read Surkov next and oil your asshole for the next Russian propagandist to come into the spotlight in the next 10 years.

Won't be necessary, we'll already have insightful thinkers in the west rivaling the russian school of thought at that point
As for you, you'll always have reddit, or reddit will always have you no matter if you're there or not.

dugin more like dig in butt lol

You already had them during the reign of the Bush administration, with the "Empire" style of post-modern propaganda. The saddest thing about this is that you think you somehow matter to those people. Don't use "we" when referring to your masters, it's just silly.

Oh, you're totally right. I almost forgot that what dugin stands for is totally about invading iraq and all of that. It's almost if I didn't read his books at all.
Here's your (you). Now back to redd*t or john green, pal.

At this point I think much of the dissident right is thinking in quite apocalyptic terms. They'd rather live under Russian hegemony than in Eurabia

>developing an entire political ideology out of your impotent hatred of Anglos

>developing an entire political ideology out of your impotent hatred of Jews

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youtube.com/watch?v=yvBl1sg8_j0

>when 14 year old poltards larp as intellectuals so hard that they put umlauts in places they don't belong

This.
Dugin is a KGB-linked hack. His misuse of the evolian and guenonian view of tradition (and counter-tradition) is egregious relativistic nonsense, belying his real colours.

what would 4chins choose?

>4 chins
Sounds like Pax Americana

Haven't read it but of course liberals say anything else than liberalism and socialism is relabeled fascism. Because fascism is bad, so you should not read any other ideas except theirs, because they are fascism.

Please, enlighten us