Oh, fuck, I suddenly think I get one of the things Joyce is going for in Ulysses.
Bloom and Stephen are always being defined in ways that don't quite fit, right? Like, Bloom is a Jew, only he's not actually a Jew. Stephen is a writer, only he's not actually a writer. Bloom is a cuck, only he's not actually a cuck. Stephen is a bad son, only he's not actually a bad son. On and on.
The book is about trying to grasp the thing-in-itself, isn't it? Not just Bloom and Stephen as characters, but Ulysses, the whole book, presents us with these hints and elements that tempt us to define and categorize it all into one thing or another, but it never actually fits into any of those categories neatly. It just is its own thing, and we have to grasp that in its wholeness without trying to subdivide.
I think.
Kayden Taylor
actually mate, it's just about handjobs
Hudson Cook
It will infect your soul. Allusions of allusions that run deep as fuck. Truly the GOAT book.
Hudson Cook
should i read Ulysses or Infinite Jest first? also, which is more torturous?
Eli Anderson
Well, one of those books was written by a genius. One of them was written by David Foster Wallace. There's a choice there, but it's not a difficult one.
Gavin Bennett
Ulysses is harder to read. Infinite Jest is just long.
Ethan Harris
well i have been reading for many hours, daily, for at least 6 months now, for the first time in my life, so i'm starting to get into longer more difficult works. having said that, i still don't feel worthy of tackling something held in such high esteem as Ulysses quite yet, so i'll jump into IJ and view it as a pacing mechanism of sorts
Nicholas Price
This is easily the deepest piece of art ever created by man. I know it sounds like shitposting but I mean it. Listen to Frank Delaney's "Re: Joyce" podcast where Delaney (truly a world-class literature authority) spends several days dissecting EACH INDIVIDUAL SENTENCE of Ulysses. Plus I can listen to Frank Delaney talk forever.
RIP Frank Delaney. And RIP James Joyce, I'll sniff my lady's asshole once for you tonight, my hero.
Christian Gomez
James Joyce = Jackson Pollack
Jack Allen
Can you recommend one of the re:Joyce podcasts? I remember listening to an early one where he glosses the use of the word "coarsely" as being included because it uses "arse", which is funny, but didn't strike me as particularly significant -- he didn't contextualize it at all.
Thomas Collins
Wait, what? Bloom wasn't a jew?
Ian Miller
Joyce wanted art, and farts
Ryan Walker
He was a jew by lineage but wasn't practicing, he feels guilt for this throughout the novel.
Landon Walker
google it faggot. there's a youtube playlist with each of the hundreds 5-10 minute podcasts compiled into 5 several-hour-long youtube videos
Chase Perry
Kek. That's it. Keep it up, guys. Get the newfags to read this """masterpiece""".
Grayson Ward
he was a far hungarian jew, so his jewishness was washed out.
I think OP is refering to the discussion at a tavern, where Bloom talks about ecology and possible improvements to breeding, and some of the guys dismiss his ideas because he's obviously just a jew trying to get profit
Bentley Perry
There are better points to jump into difficult works.
Sebastian Ortiz
>knowing for sure that your wife is cheating you and still doing nothing about it is not being actually a cuck >not accepting to please your mother on her deathbed by simply kneeling is not being actually a bad son
Also, you hardly described the ultimate meaning behind the book, only given it a characterization.
Jacob Williams
>>he doesnt know the meaning of ulysses
Alexander Thomas
Lol, if I remember correctly Bloom was fucking chased out of the pub after that whole tirade, too. It was the Citizen, I believe
Parker Edwards
Fuck you. I've listened to the first dozen or so and found then more unsatisfying than Molly did bloom. I asked for the best ones, any reccs?
Andrew Ramirez
soz user, but I think thats a conspiracy theory
Jason Mitchell
itt: someone attempts to say something about ulysses
everyone else ( ) posts equivalent to harry potter fanboyism
dear, Veeky Forums,
ur fukin retarded
sincerely, fuk u
Aaron Anderson
They're not even up to comparison except for the fact that they're both long and memed on Veeky Forums.
Nathan Price
>t. I couldn't enjoy Ulysses so no one can
fuck off faggot
Gavin Gomez
>t. I couldn't enjoy Harry Potter so no one can
fuck off faggot
Blake Lee
Ulysses is interesting because it consistently shifts styles throughout rather than fastening onto one device and sticking with (like Woolf did in the Years for example). Much of the point of Ulysses is now everyday events and the mundane can wear different aspects according to different perspectives. Some of those perspectives are emboded by characters in the narrative proper, others belong to disembodied, ironic narrators that reflect larger bodies such as nations, religions and even the history of the english language itself.
Benjamin Scott
i legit thought IJ was harder to read. DFW's prose is boring way more often.
Jaxon Thompson
Jackson Pollack just splattered paint all over the canvas and got called genius, you dolt.