How do fantasy novels like Harry Potter and Twilight attract more girls than stuff like LOTR?

How do fantasy novels like Harry Potter and Twilight attract more girls than stuff like LOTR?

Is it cause they're written by women? What about the ASoIaF books? Is it something about the worlds in the story girls are more drawn to? Are the books better written or are deeper?

i may have just contracted cancer from that picture

It's like asking why erotic pulp attracts more readers than Tolstoyevsky.

there are no female characters of worth in Tolkien's works. not I personally complain, but I can see how that might put off someone from reading 1000+ pages.

Nice nameplay senpai

They have main characters that shallow women can fantasize over as a perfect mate. They're say otherwise, but it's porn for them. Women are that shallow.

Luthien is not a character of worth in the Legendarium? The story of Beren and Luthien was so significant to Tolkien that the two names are on his grave that he shares with his wife.

>fantasy novels like Harry Potter and Twilight attract more girls than stuff like LOTR?
Source?

No hard facts, but girls I've talked to prefer or know more about HP than LOTR.

A lot of them liked the Hobbit movies, though.

>Omg user I LOVE lord of the rings
>well not so much those early ones they are BORING and so... Patrarical !
> I LOVE the new lord of the range it had so many cute parts like the shitty wizards hedgehog, and that dwarf who rolled in the barrel on land? Hahaha
> you know what though user? I liked Fiji and PRINCESS taurielle there relationship felt so real I can relate cause I never get the chad!
> oh yeah, the plot? Ermm user movies are about empowering people not telling a story xD
> besides the new star wars are the REAL stories

why is the Restricted Section at Hogwarts have absolutely no spells/enchantments that prevent students (or anyone, for that matter) from picking up a book with dark magic spells, and becoming the next Voldemort?
Riddle wasn't born Voldemort, he became it after years of studying dark magic.
Dark magic that he began learning at Hogwarts, in the Restricted Section.
>don't study dark magic, it's evil and dangerous, but here's 10 aisles of books devoted to it, and the only thing preventing you from reading them is a gate that any first year can open (aloha mora), and a squib and his cat.
seems to me like they want people to study dark magic.

the brainwashing techniques improved

Not everyone is meant to be funny user

Some of them sad they really liked Smaug too.

>LOTR fans circlejerking over how much more sophisticated they are than those pleb feeeemales reading HP.
Like leprotics laughing at black plague victims.

From my feminist friends: "LoTR is too male dominated and cishetwhitepatriarchal"
Basically, they just think there are no good powerful female characters, and there are fewer female leads and even powerful women (like Galadriel) don't feature particularly heavily. It doesn't bother me, but then my favourite writers are Gogol and Dostoevsky and Conrad, which aren't exactly from the golden age of feminism or whatever. A lot of my female friends hate reading books without women. Guess I just have internalised misogyny.

To be fair, Smaug is a charming motherfucker, and the Hobbit movies took nearly all of his dialogue directly from the books, so that charm was preserved and given life by Benedict Cumberbatch's sexy baritone.

I mean, let's be honest. We've all read The Hobbit. Wouldn't YOU date Smaug? Let's assume he doesn't eat you at the end of it.

Hobbit attracts children.
LOTR attracts men.
Silm attracts females.
That's what I've observed, anyway.

Because there isn't a character (like Herminie for example) they can self-insert as. If Sam was a girl Hobbit, it would have been more popular amongst female readers.

I'd date and cuddle the fuck out of that dragon. No homo

>They have main characters that shallow women can fantasize over as a perfect mate. They're say otherwise, but it's porn for them. Women are that shallow.

I don't buy that explanation. Aragorn is a stud; Harry is fucking dweeb and Ron is poor and a ginger.

>Luthien is not a character of worth in the Legendarium? The story of Beren and Luthien was so significant to Tolkien that the two names are on his grave that he shares with his wife.

Female autists would appreciate that kind of stuff but normie women would need a main character to latch onto.

except it doesnt work in russian

If I were a woman I'd fucking hate the new star wars for its handling of Phasma. I'm fucking pissed about that as a guy. I usually root for villains and I always root for the bad girls. Darkness is good: Nyra, Roodaka, Queen Chrysalis, that's power. The lack of female villains in Star Wars always irked me which was why I was so excited about Phasma. Fuck that kike Abrams for what he did, Ryan Johnson better fucking fix it and make Phasma badass in TLJ. I hope she kills Finn; if that happens I will fucking cum.

lotr is too reactionary and modern people hate descriptions of the world and nature for some reason and only want plot and shitty drama

Sums it up. Girls love The Silmrillion for some reason. Pre-fall Sauron is really popular on Tumblr.

the world of men and the world of women were not really the same world traditionally, lotr is about the traditional world of men

>aloha mora
sounds like something a hawayan would say to a muslim girl

My best friend is a raging feminazi (I'm not, and she says I have "internalised misogyny") and she and all of her feminazi comrades dislike LOTR because it's so masculine. I like that, I'm pretty masculine in my mentality and outlook, but I can see why a lot of girls wouldn't like it.

LOTR is extremely trad and reactionary

the point isn't that there are no significant characters that are female, but that there are no female characters with a strong, tangible, and consistent presence like the nine in the fellowship have.

I could understand that being a subconscious reason why girls may have trouble getting interested in the LoTR. However, it could also be for the superficial Patrick Rothfuss reason that it's sexist for not having female characters, but I think that's just his inner soy goy talking.

>Queen Chrysalis
take your ass back to /mlp/

How would you know who she is if you weren't also a horsefucker?

And a lot of girls are very progressive. Thus they don't like it. I'm somewhere in the middle, since I'd love to be a man in previous times but would hate to be a woman, and unfortunately I am female. Not in a tranny sense, but I like a lot of historical and traditional ideas, but not where I would be if I were in the setting.

Did I say otherwise?
come back, user, we're waiting for you

Why are you even comparing the two? They share nothing in common you peon.

Because books like HP are infantilized down to their level and lack any real depth

Everybody ITT is paying too much attention to the heroes and not enough to the antagonists.
Hobbit has Trolls and Goblins and LOTR is full of fights with Orcs and Uruk-hai, whereas Silmarillion has Elves and two Maiar going rogue, as well as Melkor.

women can't understand tolkien

Toлcтoeвcкий.

Source: my ass

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This.

Finn is the JarJar of the new trilogy and Phasma being his designated opponent makes her an opponent of JarJar. No, she won't be badass.

I think it might have to do with the focus of the books. Twilight and HP are character driven, while LOTR is narative driven. Women tend to be very people focused, men tend to be more idea and thing focused, so a character centric book is more likely to appeal to a woman. Same thing with ASOIAF, the focus is very much on what characters see and think.

Probable hypothesis.

>LOTR attracts men.
>Silm attracts females.
So, femalse have better taste?

I fucking hope not. If it's worse than her treatment in TFA, I might reconsider my antisemitism.

Read Phasma. Good book. Phasma is badass.

>get accused of racism because of Jar Jar
>cast a black guy into a same type of character
Good job, Lucasfilm.

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