BASED Brother West VICIOUSLY takes down Nephew Nehisi Coates - READ MORE HERE!

theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/17/ta-nehisi-coates-neoliberal-black-struggle-cornel-west

>When he honestly asks: “How do you defy a power that insists on claiming you?”, the answer should be clear: they claim you because you are silent on what is a threat to their order (especially Wall Street and war). You defy them when you threaten that order.

>Coates tries to justify his “defiance” by an appeal to “black atheism, to a disbelief in dreams and moral appeal”. He not only has “no expectations of white people at all”, but for him, if freedom means anything at all it is “this defiance”.

>Note that his perception of white people is tribal and his conception of freedom is neoliberal. Racial groups are homogeneous and freedom is individualistic in his world. Classes don’t exist and empires are nonexistent.

>There is no doubt that the marketing of Coates – like the marketing of anyone – warrants suspicion. Does the profiteering of fatalism about white supremacy and pessimism of black freedom fit well in an age of Trump – an age of neo-fascism, US style?

>Coates praises Obama as a “deeply moral human being” while remaining silent on the 563 drone strikes, the assassination of US citizens with no trial, the 26,171 bombs dropped on five Muslim-majority countries in 2016 and the 550 Palestinian children killed with US supported planes in 51 days, etc. He calls Obama “one of the greatest presidents in American history,” who for “eight years ... walked on ice and never fell.”

what's your take on the clash between these two prominent public intellectuals?

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I'm redpilled. I want both of them shipped back to fucking Africa. Take this to plebbit, we're viciously against these """"people's""" """""""""""""""ideas""""""""""""""" getting any kind of coverage in public consciousness. It's white genocide

Shut up and go back to /pol/.

I'm in support of the whole system from top to bottom, so I think they're both off target. I can't point to any one book to explain how I've come to this point of view. Just think about how war-like our species has been up until 1945, and maybe you'll appreciate how amazing it is that a world with nuclear weapons hasn't blown itself up yet.

>Americas income inequality mirrors 19th century Europe
>Wealth inequality mirrors 1950s Russia
>No wage hike in 30 years
>Debts have doubled
>Finance industry eating the productive economy
>90%+ of the jobs created since 2005 are low hours/low wage
>Child poverty/poverty in general increasing
>Life expectancy decreasing

>I support the whole system from top to bottom

How do you justify this situation?

Coates is a hack. He writes well enough, but his half-hearted afro-pessimism is ridiculously poorly thought out, and he doesn't understand the other thinkers and authors that he references and attempts to refute in his own writing.

West's attacks from the Black Left and Chatterton-Williams' attacks from the Black Right are both correct. Coates is essentially a high-brow Ann Coulter for liberal pseuds.

who are some good afro-pessimists?

I'm white and rich. Fuck leftism

>Americas income inequality mirrors 19th century Europe
Economics isn't a zero sum game. Are you proposing we destroy all inheritance laws & capture all rich citizens before they flee the country?
>Wealth inequality mirrors 1950s Russia
you realize wheresoever there were ultra-rich in the soviet union it was through total corruption right? There used to circulate a rumour that Stalin had like 5 houses and a harem, but it turns out he had a small home and shared several residences with practically all of the upper echelons of government for the purpose of conferences and meetings
>No wage hike in 30 years
That's thanks to your neoliberal politicians flooding the labor market with foreign workers, I support nationalist policies
>Debts have doubled
that's because millennials are incapable of anything other than hedonistic short term thinking
>finance industry eating the productive economy
*washington democrats who've turned the finance industry into a kickback scheme for their friends are eating the productive economy
>90%+ of the jobs created since 2005 are low hours/low wage
90% of all jobs are low hours/low wage
young men of working age are barely 20% of the population, and the only ones who need to bring home the bread
>child poverty/poverty in general increasing
give me some US statistics on this and I'll agree
>life expectancy decreasing
this is because millennials are more obese, more prone to heart disease, and overeat more than their parents

That bigger is controlled, literally Al Sharpton for gen x libs

>Americas income inequality mirrors 19th century Europe
>Wealth inequality mirrors 1950s Russia

People who cite these statistics are abusing them to make it seem like the underclass is being robbed. Maybe there's a tiny little bit of that happening, but it's a function of more wealth being created at the top, and poor people breeding like rabbits; poor parents make poor children.

Perhaps you have some "poor people are entitled to wealth" argument to make, which I don't agree with. The State of the world's hyperpower, with it's world-policing military, has higher priorities than improving the quality of life of its citizens, above and beyond basic subsistence.

>Finance industry eating the productive economy

I don't know what you could be referencing here.

>the rest

Yes, I agree, wage depression is a terrible thing. But who's causing it, the State, or an ever-growing, ever-improving labour pool of 7.5 billion people? A labour pool that's needed less and less as technology advances?