Okay, I have a serious question. Why on this board do we hate each other? Hear me out...

Okay, I have a serious question. Why on this board do we hate each other? Hear me out. Why do we despise each other for the books we like when, in actuality, at least we're all reading and trying to gain knowledge, etc. It pisses me off whenever I see "pseuds and brainlets". You do realise there are people in the world that do nothing but watch reality shows, yes? Why the hell are we taking the piss out of each other? It doesn't make sense at all. Yeah, Veeky Forums is a hostile place, but we shouldn't be here hating on each other. If someone reads Ayn Rand or whatever (I've heard that's a book you all hate, I've never read it myself), surely that's better than not reading at all?

holy shit shut up whiny underaged faggot

> has read all of Ayn Rands books
> says he never read her!
> why do you hate me, anons??
> fucking pseud brainlet!!!

Proving my point. Fucking tedious.

>Yeah, Veeky Forums is a hostile place, but

There're no buts

I genuinely never have. I'm just using that as an example. Surely it's better to read books than none at all. I'm advocating for being a non-hostile community. You people seem to actively like hostility. It's completely illogical and pathetic.

>reading Ayn Rand is better than not reading at all

Because you're 17 years old and should understand that being patted on the back all your life doesn't get you anywhere.

There is plenty of genuine kindness on this board but it isn't and should not be the default. And plus the underage meme spammers and genuine pseuds ruin this place with their buzzword-filled posts and basic grasp of basic concepts.

I could learn more from one reality tv show than half the people here can learn from a thousand books. People who read for the sake of reading are the reason there are so many shitty novels out there. Reading book upon book, with no goal or analysis, degrades the medium.

One, I'm 24 and two, I realise this. But who the fuck said I wanted entitlement and a "safe space" mentality? I'm just saying...be NICE to each other. What's the damn point in constantly hating what people like. The sad thing is, you're collectively calling me a 17 year old whinger, but you're the ones I see constantly calling people plebs for liking books you don't like. The definition of immature and juvenile.

>People who read for the sake of reading are the reason there are so many shitty novels out there. Reading book upon book, with no goal or analysis, degrades the medium.

Once again, do you think I was advocating for this? Please point out where I said that. I literally just said to be NICE to each other. Apparently that's too much... Hilarious.

this picture makes me feel sad
I'm not allowed to build a cabin in any woodland in the UK

How naive are you? I guess I understand your dilemma with this place if you just started coming here, in which case I advice you to escape before you become wrapped up this collective insanity and misery that is Veeky Forums.

>reading Ayn Rand is better than not reading
Kill
Your
Self

I agree, it is extremely tedious. There's a huge middle ground between "being patted on the back" or "safe spaces" and telling each other to kill yourselves over taste in various books. Then again, this is Veeky Forums, so nobody should really be surprised.

So genuinely, truthfully believe that one's time could be better spent, I don't know, watching I'm A Celebrity instead of reading? You seem to not understand that this isn't actually about Ayn Rand. I don't give a fuck about Ayn Rand. Never read her, never will. I DON'T CARE. It's a bloody example. Do you understand?

This place is genuinely toxic. It's actually kind of sickening. It's like a weird, twisted world where you can't win. Everyone hates everyone else because of the "stop liking what I don't like mentality". It's actually hideous. What an ugly community. Grow up?

>When underaged children think labelling themselves as random specific twenty-somethings will convince anybody
This is embarrassing. You need to be 18 years of age or older to post here, little guy.

>outlandish preliminary sentence
>Why on this board do we hate each other?
>asks for us to hear him out
stop being a 16 year old

Sorry nobody liked your whiny, childish thread, kiddo.

>read for the sake of reading
Like there's any other reason. 99.99% of writers and critics will tell you there's no utilitarian value in art.

Cuck.

That's why I stopped interacting with people here years ago. I just lurk now and occasionally respond with fitting reaction images, because I find that amusing.

Just like (most) unis have turned into a place for self-indulgent activism, (most of) Veeky Forums was, and forever will be a place for negotiating one's self-esteem and insecurities. Discussion for the sake of knowledge comes as an accessory sometimes.

In a fucked up paradoxical sort of way, you're only proving my point tenfold. Seriously. I've literally come on to this board and said "be nice to each other" and I'm being labelled a 16/17 year old who should kill themselves.

I was actually kind of annoyed, but it's hilarious. Some of you seem mentally ill. I can understand this reaction if I started with "you're all a bunch of freaks". I didn't.

Are you just discovering now that most people here are mentally ill?

The ppl who drawn to Veeky Forums are weird, socially awkward, conspiracy theory autists, who'd never look anybody in the eye in public. Thats the rage you see here, behind every ''cuck' and 'pseud' is an emotional cripple. Thats why theyre here. Theyre to let off steam

I'm with you. But if you aren't entirely new here, you should have realized that you are just gonna get torn apart the more you berate them. There's nothing easier for these people than to post "kys" and get a good giggle out of it.

I like coming here because it's like a circus seeing people here interact with each other. It's genuine entertainment if you stay on the outskirts of it.

hahaha holy shit, he's having a meltdown because no one agreed with his cringe-worthy feel-good 16 redditeen thesis

you're just as bad as the
>heh.... i just get all the good stuff from r/Veeky Forums..
people. Or, no, you're actually worse, because you do us the additional disservice of posting here.

The Mysterious Stranger or The Metamorphosis?

Which and why?

Sorry for wanting to actually take part in an civilised adult community where we can discuss books... Christ. I'll fuck right off then. This place should be nuked from high orbit.

I'm sorry pal, I'll just let you guys do your thing while I chuckle to myself, sorry for interrupting.

ahahahaha bye bye

>He's reddit spacing
Holy shit
You're literally the archetypical reddit cross-siter
Stop posting now. Don't reply to this

I'm OP, not him. You realise you're epitomising the type of person I'm denouncing in this thread, yes? You're telling someone to stop posting because they... put a space?

Holy shit. What actually is this place? I once thought of Veeky Forums as a hostile place, but is this actually like a forum for genuinely mentally ill patients? Is it used in studies?

>heh.... what r u........ ... .,,.... ,.... NOT RIGHT IN DA HAED???
>Holy shit. HOLY SHIT. i'm not mad, just surprised. i'm not mad or owned
this is p embarrassing desu

1. just because we read books doesn't mean we need to be friends.
2. This is precisely why some people are disliked here, because they treat reading books as a part of their identity.
3. If you can't get the piss taken out of you occasionally, then why are you even here? You know what Veeky Forums is like
4. Stop getting angry because Veeky Forums isn't conforming to the utopia that you want it to be. You're fucking 24 man, you should know those kinds of desires are untenable.
5. You should know from reading books that people are essentially petty and can barely live with one another. The added layer of anonymity makes this place a great vessel for the expression of the essential human quality of anger and disdapointment

>You're fucking 24 man
pssst, no he isn't

A genuine response. Fair enough then.

not him, but wew laddy, calm down, have a wank, go hug a parent, with a significant time interval between those two actions.

You gotta learn how to laugh at them and stop seeing them as people, just clowns. It's like if you took it to heart if school kids threw snow balls at your car or something.

you are him actually

Learn to filter out 99% of the garbage posts.

seek help

I find this description hilarious. You need to be on a malignant dose of irony to be here

Why should we be nice to each other?

go read 50 shades then, betther than not reading at all right?

the epicest most owning way to argue on imageboards is to say things like "uh see a shrink??" and "are u schizophrenic.?????". it earns you tons of le upboats

You might be schizophrenic. See a therapist babes.

...

>Babes
>Plural
WTF user, are you seeing mutliple of me? What are you schizophrenic????????????????

damn... i spelled multiple wrong... its cuz i have a mental illness

I am replying with a post devoid of content just to enable your self-worth issues and manic string-posting. Go on, what say you?

I am silly and you are btfoing me :(

>It's completely illogical and pathetic

i found the stemfag

Veeky Forums is really unhealthy, I think we can all agree. Any time I am able to quite this place for a few weeks or so I get so much reading done and the creative part of my mind is so much more active. We are all essentially drug addicts and I think we should seriously consider ourselves as such.

Can't believe this string post proved how WACKO and NOT RIGHT IN THE NOGGIN i am

>In a fucked up paradoxical sort of way

whoa it's like .. so paradoxical.. no

He writes so blatantly like an underaged user

If you've never read Rand why would you use that as an example as to why people might say her and her books are shit?

He's an underaged redditor lolbertarian randite. This is pretty obvious stuff

OP is a confirmed 17 year old redditor who reads Ayn Rand?

That chart is just random books? Seems to have no coherence at all

>at least we're all reading and trying to gain knowledge, etc
thats where youre wrong kiddo

Probably younger. I doubt he's actually red Rand, he just thinks epic memes totally own the libs and there are only two genders SJW's cuck !!!!

*read
another typo outta my Fucked Up Mind

But user, there most certainly are only two genders.

Also, Rand is pleb-tier derivative in her philosophy and pleb-tier in her prose.

Because loose moderation and anonymity. But I'd always prefer an honest ugly place to an insulated tidy-widy forum full of dicksucking carl's and nigel's.

Yeah, he does. If he weren't underage, he at least could've made his little "BE KIND!"-manifesto a little more substantial.

Speak for yourself, Veeky Forums is unironically one of the only good boards left, whether you want to admit it or not.

The one thing I got from Veeky Forums was a new-found interest in the classics. You dont see the Iliad mentioned anywhere really without some mention of the patriarchy. Last year ive read multiple translations of Homer, Vergil, Sophocles/Aeschelus/Euripidies, Herodotus and Thucydides et al. Started to learn a bit of Latin and Greek. I wouldnt have without this place, so I have /Lit to thank for something. I do try to limit time here though, there's so much barely concealed depression and anxiety (/pol/) it really is toxic for your own mental health.

>You need to be on a malignant dose of irony to be here

I agree, epic le win!

Veeky Forums is a right wing board. The strong survive.

/mu/ is a nice board. So is /g/. /k/ fills me with delight, though I don't know if people are nice on there.

I just don’t want to discuss lit with marxist nihilists or psychopathic anti-Semites. If the leftists would stop saying discord memes and making porn threads the rightists would stop making JBP and CoC threads i would not care. Im more than happy to discuss national socialism or nihilism or whatever other pathetic ideologies you people have decided to identify with. Its just that the schizophrenic posting and the pathetic polarized thinking isn’t conducive to that. Incel threads can’t happen because or “””IN-GROUP””” faggots and redditors, can’t discuss fascism because of CoC/holohoax retards and leftists who don’t want to engage, can’t discuss capitalism because libertarians are universally 15 year olds, can’t discuss Marx because no one here has read his actual theory, no one here reads harder lit and the one’s who do don’t have the balls or intellect to discuss it in depth, the poetry threads are embarassing (not worth getting into why), and the writing threads exist for people to steal and farm compliments. Its supposed to be a slow “””serious”””” board but its not, and the mods don’t do their jobs at all. There was an unironic Protocols and Star Wars thread up for a whole day that should’ve been deleted immediately. Then you have niggers making bait thrads every 5 seconds because the mods don’t care and there’s so many newfags and redditors that its always profitable to do do. Finalky, you have STEM niggers coming on here to pretend to want to learn and then running away when they realize they’re not in charge, have nothing to offer and basically need to shut up and put their nose in books for months on end. Its a waste

The irony is that people here enjoy shitposting and you're sitting there saying
>stop liking what I don't like

His point is stop making it hell when you don't need to.

>Literally calling a display of emotional maturity immature
It's going to be rough when you wake up

>expecting a normal level of decency on
>Veeky Forums
cmon man...
I will say, Veeky Forums is a pleasant thread :-)

>stop wanting anything to be better, grow up, the world just has to be shit
>you're not my friend so I should be mean, I can only be polite to close friends

Dream on, pal..

I just literally don't give a shit.

If you stop up one second and think about how many new people come in every year and how many "old" regulars stop coming you quickly realize the site as a whole truly has been getting worse over the years (Veeky Forums included). It's borderline depressing, there's no point in this kind of discussion or any genuine discussion in general, because nobody knows anything. You're infinitely better off reading and thinking about what you've read than trying to learn anything from here. It's a waste of time. If you want to talk to someone who knows something your best bet is befriending a professor. Ultimately though the first step is to look at yourself first and think about how you can work towards becoming who you want to be, learn what you want to learn. Instead of posting about what you read, how much you read, how to read, what other people read—how about doing something worth a damn and actually reading. There is so much to read and so little time to do it in, so much to understand. Whenever I come back it quickly starts feeling like I've voluntarily put myself in quicksand, because that's what this place is. Force yourself off the site for a week or two, and when you then get the urge to come back you'll see how awful almost all the content truly is. Do yourself a favor and get over it.

Accurate post.

It set you on your way, but now you're already further along than 90% of people who post here. Good for you.

Reddit thread

>Expecting the degenerates on Veeky Forums to be civil

This is Veeky Forums, not /pol/ or /r9k/ or /b/. People here aren't nearly as pathological.

Fuck you, the whole point of Veeky Forums is to be able to speak freely and anonymously without consequence. Opinions can be broadcasted without worrying whether Anon1 or Anon2 is going to get offended. If you made everybody be nice to each other, than there would be no point in having this board. You literally would just put your damn nice mask back on and fuck off to real life for some "real discussion."

Hostility is a requirement to keep out entry-level "literature" from flooding the board and pushing intelligent conversation off of the catalogue.

Without hostility you end up like r/Books, endlessly repeating threads about Hitch Hiker's Guide and high school texts, because the flood of new posters alienates anyone that wants to discuss texts more in depth than "Harry Potter is SO BAD/GREAT."

The main flaw of Veeky Forums over the last year was not shouting down the cross-posters harder, who show up here because they feel like this is the place to be for intellectuals, and bring the level of discourse down to mud slinging left/right bullshit.

In closing, fuck off; I hope you die in a grease fire for your temerity.

Agreed, but where else are you going to go to discuss this stuff. It's the same reason I hang out in a couple generals on /mu/ or browse Veeky Forums or /out/. They're bad and getting worse, but I don't know where else to go on the internet. I've been here since 2010.

Shut up nerd.

>why is a community populated by young people who have shitty diets, drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes, abuse drugs, abuse the internet, abuse social media, do not exercise, watch porn, and fall for the video game dopamine loop filled with negativity

I really wonder

I was under the impression that we didn't *really* hate women per se because they were too stupid to hate, and disrespectfully indifferent toward [one another]. But what do I know?

*(we), rather..

I think a lot of the boards irony is going over your head. But I do agree that this place isn't great for discussion in general because most here don't read.on occasion though you find great discussion threads about books or topics that you may not see anywhere else such as the thread on cognitive extension

Readers still scan this board, senpai. Or hover above it like buzzards. That, in fact, is Veeky Forums- the one I return to again and again..

this ia true,at least for me,but only in part.i am an emotional cripple,but i do want to study and discuss literature,no one i know in the real world would be willing to do that with,except maybe for one person.

>irony
>memes
die faggot

Shut up fag. Your people are why I'm not allowed to hate anyone anywhere and recreational hate is called toxic and vitriol. Let me hate you. It's cathartic and enjoyable to hate a stranger for no reason. But no, you have to come to muh last bastion and try to impose your same faggotry here as every safe space your type condones. So maybe I don't hate you irrationally, maybe you earned it.