What are your thoughts on French left-communist Gilles Dauve's essay defending pedophilia?

The essay has a long literary tradition, it was invented by Montaigne.

I dont care

who is this qt?

www.instagram.com/weedcommunist/

That's irrelevant.

Too lazy to read. Is he defending pedophiles or pedophilia? There is a small difference I think. Pedophiles are simply people who are attracted to children. I am not sure for sure what the cause is but correct me if I am wrong, it is a biological condition? Pretty sure there brain structure is different in some ways. Anyway, if they engage in pedophilia then that's wrong and disgusting but if they recognize their illness and seek therapy/help then can you really hate a person for something dictated by nature?

If he is defending the actual act of pedophilia he can fuck right off. I know the French are deviants but really this is pushing it.

>Veeky Forums is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc.

One would assume essays would be under etc.

Essays relating to literature. Not just essays about any old thing. Other than the vague allusions to Alice that he just uses to add drama to the essay, this one does not relate to literature.

He does defend the idea of sexual love between adult and child, he brings up Andre Gide as an example who did this healthily.

Essays are a literary form, I've seen threads about Zappfe's "The Last Messiah" and Schopenhauer's "On Women".

Well then I respectfully disagree with him

A lot of French intellectuals have defended pedophilia, see this for example: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws

Why?

He's an American and it goes against his protestant puritan values

I mean I'd fuck a teenager girl in an instant if I knew I could get away with it
I was basically in love with a thirteen year old girl I was teaching one summer

At the same time though there should totally be laws against people like me actually doing that shit.

My behavioral stats professor said during a lecture that the majority of those found to be guilty of pedophilia have below average IQ--like 80s or lower--but I don't know what study he was referring to and I'm not going to bother finding one.

Please see someone

Given how retarded the average guy on To Catch a Predator was this could be legit

liberals are very close to getting shot in the head

they only need to apologise for one more rapist murderer

I believe that honestly. There are certainly pedophiles high up in the social ladder but their financial resources/connections protects some of them.

See this could be part of the issue couldn't it, the studies can only show those dumb enough to get caught

I mean I think anyone getting caught for a crime would likely be lower iq then people who commit that crime in general.

i raise you a father-daughter duet about incestuous pedophilia
youtube.com/watch?v=Ot_tRRlxe1A

gotta love the french

>WHAT PHYSICAL DIFFERENCES CAN MARK OUT A PEDOPHILE?
>The latest study found that paedophiles have more physical flaws known as Minor Physical Anomalies (MPAs).
>MPAs can include low-set ears, a furrowed tongue, a curved fifth finger, a third toe longer than the second toe and an excessive gap between first and second toe.
>The researchers pedophiles were more likely to be left-handed, have non-detached earlobes and a high palate.
>Previous research has found paedophiles tend to be between 10 and 15 IQ points lower than average. They are also typically 2.3cm shorter in height than a typical male.
>Dr Cantor said that when men find women sexually attractive, they unconsciously lower their voices and widen their stance, whereas when they talk to children their voices become higher.
>He explained that instead of evoking the typical responses that men exhibit when seeing a child, ‘it’s as if [paedophiles’] responses are cross-wired’ so that when they see a child, their brain ‘triggers the sex response system instead of the parental, nurturing system’.
>Interestingly, like the latest study, Dr Cantor discovered that 30 to 35 per cent of paedophiles are left-handed.

dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3119063/Can-scientists-spot-pedophile-Study-claims-likely-physical-deformities-left-handed.html is the source but I don't see the studies whence the information comes.

I mean the thing she gets wrong is she assumes that because child sexuality exists it's as valid and mature as adult sexuality.
And that the simplest example of why pedophilia is wrong is because children aren't cognitively developed enough to consent.

kek this is like Puritans describing what a Witch looks like
>You have to look out if their nose is too long or if they have any warts!

Go to bed, Karl Ove

>>Interestingly, like the latest study, Dr Cantor discovered that 30 to 35 per cent of paedophiles are left-handed.
So... right handed people are more likely to fuck kids?

What determines whether someone is cognitively developed enough to consent? Should people with Downs syndrome be allowed to have sex? People below a certain IQ?

Thanks. I believe. You could probably find the study on psychinfo or psychiatry online databases if you're curious.. I'll check it out later.

>using the Daily Mail as a source of scientific journalism

Fucking mouthbreather

I turn 22 soon and fell terribly in love with a 14 year old girl this November. Feels like a joke because I have feelings for her that transcend sex entirely, couldn't even imagine going past a kiss which perfectly embodies the odd sensuality she's engendered. I just want to take care of her, make her smile, hug her when things aren't going well and above all just be around her. Can't even focus on reading or studying and have to become avoidant because just her voice makes my skin tingle. It's all so awful and embarassing, but the opposite of perverse

Sometimes certain boundaries society sets have to be arbitrary and dumb.

The girl in the OP and this one are both 14 years old iirc

Dude I'm the guy who fell for a thirteen year old. All I can say is stop that cuck shit that its not sexual, it is and you're more of a disgusting piece of shit if you don't own up to it instead of telling yourself you're just a cute little guardian.
I'd fuck that girl with her legs over my shoulders, I wouldn't even feel bad about it but I'm not taking the risk of ruining my life over that. You say the same.

Yeah, I really brought down the level of discourse in this thread, didn't I? I said in my first post that I wasn't sure of my professor's study and that I couldn't find one in the "article" I linked to. Eat my ass.

>stop that cuck shit that its not sexual
It isn't, no reason to lie anonymously. She's skinny and looks androgynous, I don't want to have sex with her and I hope she feels the same. Stop projecting your perversion onto something so beautiful and fragile

Would you turn her down though if she did want to, if there was no chance of repercussions?

Yes, there's some implicit debasement about sex that I would hate to involve her in. I've had sexual relationships with women and this is so much greater than that. That might actually be at the heart of it, the innocent and pure affection. I'd see a psych if the whole thing wasn't so maligned

That doesn't really answer the question though, and is partially what the author is addessing

the predictable next step for the ZOG machinery

Frankly I think you're lying to yourself on a subconscious level and it makes you more of a danger to yourself than if you were like me. I do recommend seeing a shrink people have less control over themselves than they like to believe, you don't want to just wind having seeing yourself having done something

zebel

Pedophilia is a pre-industrial phenomenon though. The society we live in now is probably the most anti-pedophilic in the history of humanity.

Not him but why do you have a hard time believing that he has no sexual feelings?

That'd actually make a great novel, the asexual older Romantic disgusted by modern sexuality falls in love with the transient personality and figure of young girl because of her innocence. But of course she grows into a sexually active teenager and marrs the relationship by bringing sex into it. Meanwhile the older partner is demonized by society for exactly what he tries to save her from, but it's futile because the idealization was created by him from the beginning. The whole point being he was never really attracted to the child, but just wanted to experience the childhood he missed.

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>Not him but why do you have a hard time believing that he has no sexual feelings?

Because he's a guy with a dick why wouldn't he?
I've heard some cucky guys talking about legal girls they fall in love with giving the same spiel, about how it transcends sex but in the end of the day when there's smoke there's fire.
I think we can just an impulse to repress desires like that out of a sense of forbiddenness and because it protects your ability to be "allowed" to care about someone

No man you're missing it entirely, that's what makes it so powerful, it'd be easier if it was the same attraction I felt to women or even girls like
Enough though, I'd like to forget about it

I've been in love with girls I don't have any sexual feelings towards before. It's definitely possible

But there's also something to be said that kids trigger a paternal instinct, unlike girls of age(at least normally)

Did you find any of them ugly?

>unironically says cuck
>attributes love entirely to "muh dick"
Checks out

Look my opinion is not that love is reducible to sex. But I do believe that sexual desire is a necessary component to love, I don't think its possible to have feelings like that for someone without wanting to share such an intimate and affectionate space with them. Frankly here the mistake is just understanding sex in a strictly pornographic way.

No. I don't want to have sex with someone I love though, that would ruin everything

Reminds me of Bananafish.

>I don't want to have sex with someone I love though, that would ruin everything

It totally could, but it doesn't mean you don't want it

if you didn't fuck then you don't really love them, only through fucking are the chemicals necessary for true love released

Never read it but I will now

I don't want sex. I don't believe sexual desire is a necessary component to love.

>I don't think its possible to have feelings like that for someone without wanting to share such an intimate and affectionate space with them.

I'm sorry you feel this way

Sounds like broscience.

I'm sorry you feel that love has to do with chemicals

nah its advocating for pederasty and pedo shit, its repulsive and indicative that the Left is beyond saving at this point
>t. not /pol/

I mean, literally everything has *something* to do with chemicals

What if you just jack off while thinking about them?

I'll pray for you

Complete fucking pleb. Enjoy not connecting with the most powerful human emotion and be resigned to thinking romantic poetry is gaaay

Given this is a lit board, I'd say you would probably enjoy ultra romanticism books. And I presume I shouldn't remind you of romantics such as Goethe. But to the topic of your reply: what you describe is very likely a paternalistic reflex, which doesn't seem to be that rare. My guess is you know the average mother woman has objectified herself to the extreme, and as such no longer deserves truly being taken care of. I could also guess you're one of those rare people whose mind isn't hypersexualized, but that's quite rare, so I'll assume you're in the paternalistic wagon. You probably notice, as did I when I went through my ultra romantic phase, that sex is incredibly intimate, much more than most realise, and doing it with any frequency destroys your perception of intimacy. Plus, it's also a reminder of our animalistic tendencies, which some dislike quite a bit. Take care not to be trapped in that phase.

Teenagers are biologically fertile after puberty. Why should I feel bad for wanting to put my penis in one and releasing a biiiig load?

>virgin thinks his opinion on "love" matters

lel

Freud was a disguting degenerate whose importance is basically popularising the notion of the unconscious, something many thinkers were working on before him but they didn't get such mad props for some funny reason...

crawl back to the hole whence you came from horrid creature of the abyss

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i'm gonna vomit, disgusting.

Is Werther any good? I started Willhelm Meister and it was shit desu

kek get rekt leftypol

Good to know pal

There's some good discussion in this thread you animal, and loving a girl-child signals aesthetic sensibility

I've never masturbated before, so you're right that my mind is not hypersexualized

>I've never masturbated before

Hoh, this guy

I don't know how to do masturbate, it seem absurd to me. You place your hand on your penis and move it up and down? How is that supposed to feel good? Also the thought of bodily fluids disgust me.

so tiresome
whatever helps you get through the screaming darkness user. I don't even care about your mental illness anymore

Were you molested as a kid or something?

Not that I remember. How does the thought of semen not disgust people? I don't understand how people 'learn' to masturbate, it seems a completely unnatural motion. I didn't even realize it was a thing until I started using the internet.

Well I hated him for being a communist, now I hate him more for being a pedo apologist.

y net goto raddit

When I was ten I remember hearing about it in school from an older kid, then when I was at home in bed I started just trying the motion myself. At first I thought it was like you pretend your hand is a pussy and you fuck it. I'd just do it a little and the sensation was too overpowering and scary to go all the way to orgasm for months. By then I barely cummed, just a dribble came out. And I'd feel awful and ashamed and pray to God for forgive and to help me stop because I was raised a good Catholic.

Then with time I just stopped giving a shit until Varg told me to stop doing it

Just try it out and see what happens.

They're also more likely to have complications from pregnancy, they're still growing, so maybe parents of an offspring would naturally not want a baby's big ass head splitting their 10 year investment of resources in half and killing her.

Interesting. I tried to place my hand on my penis once and rub it but I didn't feel anything. I'd probably need a tutorial to teach me how. Not that I'm interested, I've gone 22 years without it so I don't intend to start now.

I started masturbating at what must have been age 6, before kindergarten atleast

I liked the feeling of resting or pressing my dick on stuff at that age, but it wasn't until I was 10 that I learned why and went further

Yeah nah don't, its not worth it at all