Language learning thread

Have a set time to do it every day. Turn off all distractions and focus for an hour or two. I do it in the morning before work because sometimes after work I am tired and just want to relax. Don't waste your highest energy and creativity on a company that treats you like trash.

Chinese. Hard to motivate myself though.

Could a french user help me with french media? Like suggest me good french bands and movies, along with french websites.

letterboxd.com/fliptrotsky/list/top-100-french-films-scfz-poll/

A list like this would give you a good education in French cinema.

I pased from B2 to C2 in French just by watching youtube videos and reading twitter and newspapers. Passed a certain level it will be more efficient to do this than studying

German, Swedish, Spanish, Danish, Russian
I don't feel like I'm really "learning" russian because I'm just associating the cyrillic words I recognize with meanings without reading them aloud and truly understanding cyrillic

Learning Spanish. Anything I can read to make my Spanish better?

spanish
immerse yourself. that means stop coming to 4ch and go to that spanish imageboard instead

How long until B2? And then, how long until C2?
Also, what's your native?

Trying to learn French and German at the same time. Easier than I thought

Btw, same question as but for German. I've been listening to Udo Jürgens and marching songs. I'm also reading kraut chans once in a while. Tbh I'm more interested in German than French right now, I want to read Goethe and Grimm. Nothing specific I'd like to do with French as of now

>shits on murakami
>reads manga

stromae, indila, carla bruni, bigflo & oli

read charles baudillard in original french. read les miserables in english to get you a feel for the history of france while reading a pretty awesome classic.

>Not learning Japanese to read Mishima and secretly indulge in all sorts of weebshit media
Get it together guys.

Trying to learn sanskrit to read śastra. The others on my list are german, french, attic greek, russian, arabic.

I don't even know why if i don't like talking to people. And i'm not interested in reading other than philosophy or religious text

I randomly stumbled onto this edition of the parallel translation of Metamorphoses:
ia800201.us.archive.org/6/items/metamorphosestra00oviduoft/metamorphosestra00oviduoft.pdf
which has a very useful section for "intended" order of words which really helps to grasp the grammar quicker. Anyone knows similar books for latin study?

this
Or Delibes, Mendoza, El beso de la mujer araña by Manuel Puig.

Several years at teenage pace to get to B2 level.
3-4 years to get from B2 to C2, so actually faster. I have to say that it takes some study to learn formal/professional style, because obviously you dont find that on twitter. But having written a pair of resumes and some emails it was done

Pick a language you actually want to learn. I spent years in school learning French, and later on when I decided to do it on my own time I found it to be a chore. Plus french people are generally assholes.

Decided to leave it be and picked up German instead. Despite it being a more difficult language to learn I was more motivated because I had a greater interest in the people and culture and literature than I did before.

What is the best way to learn german grammar?

I'm taking Nip classes and am learning French on my own. Desu I'm not making as much progress on either as I'd like to, but that's a matter of me being a lazy piece of shit.
In the long run, I'd also like to be able to reach fluency in Korean and Esperanto. I also know a fair amount of Russian and Dutch, but need to go over the material again sometime.

Learned Esperanto, am now trying to learn Spanish.

I'm learning spanish with my native being portuguese, it's kinda boring really, already know the pronunciation and majority of the words by the languages similarities.

Currently learning russian, but I want to take a small survey since I am starting to have doubts wether I am a retard or not.
Anons who have done the same, how much did you struggle with learning the vocabulary?
I can't for the love of sweet baby jesus learn any new words. I forget them 10 seconds after reviewing them.

>learned a fake language
>now time to learn a real one
you are a smart nigger aren’t you?

>I'm learning Japanese to be able to read Murakami as intended.
You don't need Japanese to do that. In fact you don't need half of your brain to read Murakami.

You could watch Werner Herzog movies with german subtitles, his early experimental stuff, it's enjoyable.

Get the basics set right, then pick the rest up while learning the language, be curious and learn how to search for grammar rules. Would help greatly to have a german friend to at least name the grammar rule for you to search for. A really helpful site is: mein-deutschbuch.de/

大家一起来唱红歌吧
youtube.com/watch?v=R7UMF8ZFuR8

On a side note LOLWeebs, why learn the nation of a dying country that NEEDS about 5+ Million immigrants when you can learn BIG SUPERPOWER CHINA

Fuck off Xiaoping I'm not learning mandarin.

Not even trolling, at least mandarin would be a worthwhile addition to the resume

I'm going to learn Chinese after Japanese, but after seeing that user complaining about working with chinamen I'm thinking twice about it. On a side note I've yet to seen a chink/sinoboo who doesn't mention Chinese while degrading Japanese. Kinda sad desu

>letterboxd.com/fliptrotsky/list/top-100-french-films-scfz-poll/

not the guy you responded to but brilliant, why didn't I think of this

also for the uninitiated, if you haven't checked out this blog, it might be the best literary one out there. some insane polygon - English isn't even his first language - writes about classic novels from other languages not yet translated into English in order to get them more publicity in the hopes he will catalyse their being translated into English. really great stuff. the guy single-handedly convinced me to start learning Spanish after I master French with one of his reviews.

theuntranslated.wordpress.com

use anki

both arguments are made by historically illiterate people

both languages have merit and neither are liable to pay dividends to a foreigner

Do whatever you can everyday, even if it’s only five minutes

What resources are you using? Memrise is good for longterm memory because it has you review the words right before you forget them

People unironically learning German should kill themselves.
t. German

Yes I am using memrise. More specifically the Top 10,000 Words course.

Know: English, Spanish, Dutch, Ancient Egyptian, Old Englih
Learning: Latin, Chinese

Kind of hard.

Why

Kind of unrelated, but my mom is learning spanish and I’m going to make a booklet of spanish poems for her as a christmas gift. I’m clueless about spanish poetry though, any reccomendations of what I could include?
Bonus points if they’re about birds.

>he's so cucked he hates his own language

>ancient egyptian
>old english
...why

Germans hate speaking German, it's true. I lived in Germany for a while, and none of them ever wanted to speak German as soon as they learned I speak English. Stop being so embarrassed of yourselves. Your linguistic cuckoldry hurts my soul, and I'm not even German.

Why learn Latin and Ancient Greek?

I just have a special interest in those example works of literature; Egyptian sounds amazing and Old English is more poetic

Finished first semester of mandarin at school. Surprised my Chinese coworker yesterday who was repeatedly saying beautiful, I said"漂亮". she say HOW YOU KNOW PIAOLIANG?

because china #1 of course i know piaoliang

there's this thing called "fun" people tend to indulge in. I don't get it either.

Is your German any good? Most people hate talking to someone who can't speak very well and will by default speak in the language that makes communication easier. If you go to the Netherlands is quite hard to get people to speak Dutch because everyone English is so good.

>Japanese prose.

Kek. Chink Languages are garbage tier for expressing profundity and richness of thought/idea compares to English or European languages.

Edith Piaf you cock. She’s actually really good too. Also Mireille Matthieu for similar style. She was a qt in her prime.

DO NOT LEARN MANDARIN. I REPEAT: DO. NOT. LEARN. MANDARIN.

Germany is a literal shit hole. German people are massive assholes. Learn French or Italian. If you’re intelligent, try Russian.

learning any non european language is likely to be useless for almost everyone.

that is not to confirm negative chinese stereotypes. but unless you have a very specific use for it, you're going to fail

Learning german to read literature and philosophy, not to talk to germans lol

Get a gf or bf who speaks the language

How hard is Korean compared to those other languages of yours?

in order of difficulty for a native english speaker it should be
french

>France
>not full of assholes

fuck, I'm Polish and I much prefer speaking German to English, even though I suck at it. It just has much easier pronunciation. English pronunciation is fucking awkward, no wonder there's so many varieties of it.

>Egyptian sounds amazing

That's cool, man. Did you learn Coptic with the Greek script?

Actually, I learned hieroglyphics first. I'm currently working on the Coptic the traditional way

Impressive. Aren't there two ways of reading a hieroglyph and it's a major pain in the ass? Are you at grad or post-grad level?

You're partially correct.

The Egyptian's wisely grouped the hieroglyphs together as to not confuse the reader. Recto-verso, being the most common way of reading the script, usually holds certain symbols in order.

It's a lot of knowing patterns, the determatives, and the myths

Also; I'm self taught. I don't go out often

Guy living in Japan who reads Japanese at a high level here. Currently reading Killing Commendatore, about 200 pages to go (It's like 1,000 pages).

I can tell you that you are not really missing much by reading Murakami only in translation, to be real honest. I don't get much of different feeling at all with the Japanese. It's still neat and enjoyable and I will never read a Japanese author in English at this point, but it's not a radically different experience, particularly as Memeakami is concerned.

That said there is a character in 'Commendatore' who speaks strangely and I am very intrigued to see how they will speak in the English version. The way of speaking can't really be translated smoothly into English. I'll definitely flip though the English one to check when it drops.

Mishima is quite difficult when it comes to description. The page will be littered with furigana and we're talking a grown up book. Actions and dialogue aren't too bad usually but descriptions holy shit.

I've been thinking about trying Russian for literary purposes. Not sure if I should though. I've heard Dutch is easy to learn for English speakers but I don't really have any reason to do it.

So you have good command of Japanese and can speak on this from a position of authority, correct?

What is the best language for lit purposes after English? French?

Russian for nearly 2 years now. I've only really learned to read as I'm autistic and people on italki are very needy. I would have advanced much faster had I actually spoken to people, but well, it was just a project to fill the free time I had when I was unemployed. I'm doing pretty well, I can read essentially any blog post or day to day communication as easily as english. I have to lean heavily on a dictionary for harder things though.

Have recently also taken up Latin, which I'm advancing through pretty fast. It's quite easy having come from Russian, as the cases (except ablative) are all intuitive to me now, and an English speaker can intuit a fair bit of the words anyway. Hoping to crack at Bellico gallico sometime around march/feb

latin or greek

Spanish. Read Don Quijote in the original languaje. After that, there are better books than that; read anything from Quevedo (although you need a deep comprehension of the languaje to undersand it).

German, have been focusing on listening, noticing patterns etc. Studying a bit of proper grammar daily. It seems quite easy so far, all I have to do really is learn vocabulary. I've heard some people sperg about articles, genders etc., but it doesn't seem that hard really. I want to read some German authors as soon as possible, but both because of difficulty and interest I'll probably start with folklore, such as Brüder Grimm. I wonder how long until I can tackle Goethe

Can I ask you what you are using as far as books or other resources. What is a good beginner German book?

Why? Don't you want to be deployed to China to live among insectoid streetshitters?

Check out La Haine for film. It’s great, though the French is very “slangy.”

For books, I’m almost finished with Gide’s La Stmphonie Pastorale, and I’m loving it. Lots of cool ideas about philosophy, theology, human nature, and love. Also, the French is simple enough for an intermediate/low advanced learner to get through without too much aid from a dictionary. As for music, my favorite francophone band is probably Les Cowboys Fringants (quebecois folk-rock), but I also like Charles Aznavour and Jacque Brel.

Cable6 dot net is a Veeky Forums-like French website. Unfortunately, it’s more scarcely populated than /po/. You would be better served by just frequenting the /fr/ threads on /int/ (if American, they are most active from the morning until around 2 or 3 pm). For an online dictionary, always use Larousse. It’s definitely the best, and it has encyclopedia entries as well.

Do any anons know any Latin language music or movies or such? I know about The Passion of Christ and Sebastiane, is there anything else?

Is Sebastiane that gay porno?

Mein Neger.

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF KRAUTS

STOP BEING SUCH A KEK, YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE WISH THEY WERE GERMAN

definitely on the spectrum

>because china #1
Ok we get it Lee Xiao Zhingbing

I read simplified German newspapers from /int/ sticky and passively listen to German TV on Kodi

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I think there's no actual sodomy shoen on screen but yeah the whole thing is 200% gay.

I've been reading news and kraut chans to get used to the "flow" of German, as well as using Duolingo and some other apps on my phone(DeutschLernen and Memrise). I'm not properly following a book because I don't have time to do so right now, but based on recommendations I got pdfs for the following grammar books:
Hammer
An Essential Grammar - Bruce Donaldson
Modern German Grammar, a practical guide - Dodd, Eckhard-Black, Klapper and Whittle

When I have the time to do so I'll read the same subject on all of them at the same time, hopefully it accelerates learning. For now I've been learning some stuff from the wiki on German grammar for an intro to the subject. Browse the kraut chans and you'll eventually get some links to news sites.

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This made me want to learn hungarian

I'm interested in learning Russian and Chinese, but I'd like to learn to play the recorder first.

Thoughts?

What do you respond when someone says that learning another language (excluding spanish and english) will have zero practical bonuses?

Just feels like a waste of time honestly.

it can be true. it can be false. the correlate is precisely related to your interests, job, and propensity to go outside

I think many of the people suggesting it also believe there is no benefit to learning finance

I'd generally call them idiots, but for them, learning finance or a language is probably not likely to benefit htem at all. so they are correct.