Kind of a weird question, but if one is Enlightened and wishes to share wisdom, would that person still need to study the greats?
Obviously they would correlate their own knowledge to the ones before them, but would they need to study the classics if they plan to write and publish?
you’re not enlightened and your posts and embarassing to read
Landon Powell
Thats fine.
Doesn't answer the question
Jaxon Myers
So, for instance if one wanted to define the "optimal life of man", and a pathway and philosophy to back it, would it require the person to back it up with other peoples attempts? Or could one merely provide rhetorical logic?
David Cox
If you can do it on your own, then do so. There is no requirement to cite others unless it's necessary to achieve your ends.
It's always good to stay in touch with the wisdom of "the greats." Do people quit reading the Bible because they've already read it two times through?
Alexander Russell
I see, but would it be approved academically?
I'm not impling that it would wise to not cite greats.
How small of a book could it be allowed to be?
I'm guessing I'd have to define the diction, which would be where I would use citation.
Nathaniel Morales
It would necessitate that the individual be optimally actualized himself, mentally, physically and spiritually.
>Obviously they would correlate their own knowledge to the ones before them
not necessarily for the sole reason that there were others that came before him. every soul is unique, and every consciousness is faceted by different experiences, all leading to one ultimate realization. therefore there are innumerable ways to enlighten the world.
That is not to say that there is not a particular threshold that must be crossed, or that there aren't conditions to be met. God is in everyone, but every individual is not God.
>TRUTH MUST BE ARTICULATED AS CONCISELY AS POSSIBLE; EXPLAIN TOO MUCH, AND TRUTH BECOMES OPINION; EXPLICATE TOO MUCH, AND KNOWLEDGE BECOMES DATA; EXPOUND TOO MUCH, AND THE MURMUR OF REMEMBRANCE IS LOST IN THE STREAM OF DISCOURSE.
Lucas Reyes
I see, thank you.
I was finally able to define the pathway or trinity for a succesful life, in 3. Which I believe to be the perfect number.
Status, Family, Health. Status; Finance, Social standing, Power Family; Family, Friends, Peers Health; Mental, Spiritual, Physical
All 3 are all related within their subcategories, and that is their relation in life.
Grayson Williams
>one is Enlightened and wishes to share wisdom, would that person still need to study the greats? no shut the fuck up and stop falling for memes
Joshua Mitchell
No to what part user?
Angel White
I actually use a pretty eastern take on life, and studied esoteric values.
I plan to use this structure And plan to teach others how to focus on all 3 aspects, while teaching them how to find their drive to achieve their goals, while expanding on the whys/hows.
To be quite frank, I see where philosophies and metaphysical ideas overlap, and link together. I think most people can as well, but I see proper way to go about, "living" with keeping a higher belief system in mind. IE; God in the stance he wants the best for the individual which would be the best for the community.
Daniel Martinez
>tell me i'm good, mommy boy, did you get the wrong board.
Parker Wright
oh shit you misunderstood the post Good on you for still replying champ.
Please kick my teeth in with your philosophical insights, it's what I breathe.
Lucas Garcia
i'm not your mom, my asshole still works
Jaxon Nelson
Well my uses her vagina to take dick. (obviously)
Are you implying your asshole still works to take dick? Since we are on Veeky Forums, your assumed gender is male, I'm guessing you don't have a vagina to take dick.
So we must assume you take your dick in your ass still, as it still works.
Aiden Lopez
>this many words and a tripfaggot and he still can't work out his mom takes three dicks at a time >or that a working asshole hasn't had its sphincters stretched good thing you're not pretending to yourself you know medicine.
Isaiah Bailey
you're not wise
Bentley Anderson
you don't take an eastern take if you care about status and power... stop embarrassing yourself
Hunter Ward
Maybe not as much as you, oh wise one. You poop user, of course your sphincters stretch, are you retarded?
Justin Johnson
I forgot Genghis Khan definitely didn't understand or respect power, nor did he work for it. > > >
Henry Ortiz
you don't have to believe yourself to be wise to recognize a fool. nice defense mechanism wtf are you talking about? how did genghis khan not develop a massive empire? how is genghis khan a significant figure in eastern philosophy? LOL
Jaxson Walker
I learned this stuff in highschool health class.
Logan Rodriguez
>if one is Enlightened and wishes to share wisdom such a one would say whatever the fuck he wanted to say however the fuck he wanted to say it without trying to larp as what he thought others considered to be a "respected" character
on the other hand, if one were a massive self-deluded faggot then one would go on Veeky Forums and ask questions for the sake of self-validation
Carson Collins
>how is genghis khan a significant figure in eastern philosophy? LOL The man literally reshaped civilization in Asia, are you retarded?
The user implied power shouldn't be incorporated into a eastern idea of life, and it it was a failure of my own philosophy to have done so, when I claimed I said my life view is eastern.
So I brought up Genghis.
>you don't have to believe yourself to be wise to recognize a fool. nice defense mechanism All I said Is I'm not wise as him. I'm fine with that, are you not?
Noah Hernandez
Awesome user. I wasn't even talking about a specific in the OP, maybe you should reread it.
Austin Ward
failing, exposed, nothing to offer
Carter Johnson
All I have to offer is a path. I'm not sure what you mean by exposed, and failing as my views haven't changed or contradicted any of my past statements.
Dylan Murphy
>All I said Is I'm not wise as him
yeah and you did so not in earnest, you smug fool
>conquering a bunch of villages=being an important philosophical figure
please tell me what important ideas did genghis khan develop
also, how did the person that developed the largest empire ever not work for power? blatant contradiction masquerading as being "enlightened"
the first step is to stop lying to yourself... and you probably won't. that's really sad... everyone can see your blatant self-deception and delusions of grandeur.
Jonathan Perez
>You poop user, of course your sphincters stretch, are you retarded? They dilate, dumbass. For them to be stretched there would need to be something stretching them. Ask your mom about anal sex, faggot. And pooping. Maybe you got this dumbness from your anonymous daddy.
Dylan Price
yo
Jacob Green
>there would need to be something stretching them You try and tell me that petrified megaturd I strain and sweat and whimper to expel from my anus after holding it in my shit for a week is not stretching my sphinxter to newfound measurements.
Grayson Watson
user, just because I jest does not mean I'm not sincere. >how did the person that developed the largest empire ever not work for power? I was being sarcastic when I said he didn't, I thought you could catch my intent? I probably don't use the term enlightened as you do.
>conquering a bunch of villages=being an important philosophical figure It's kinda like he affected others as he did this. That affected their being, and affected their philosophy. When I use "power" I only implied you would hold sway in your community.
But I see you don't really care about my ideas, you would rather just argue about the off topic stuff.
William Richardson
All great wise men studied. Jesus Christ was always reading, a scholar. Reading is divine, truly a beautiful activity, there is more than enough to learn, ruminate, and apply, or try to, in our own lives
Julian Wright
that's a sign you're unhealthy. it's a common cause of heart attacks. it's how elvis died.
Cooper Edwards
Dude stop condemning people's sexual proclivities if I want to hold in my shit than thats my prorogative operandi.
Christian Cruz
Yes, but time comes when pencil must meet paper.
One must take part in the divine spell taking, that man casts with their word.
Jose Sanchez
>I don't want my asshole to work >STOP SAYING MY ASSHOLE DOESN'T WORK you trapping or are you naturally this stupid?
Isaac Butler
yo
Isaac Perry
you are enlightened and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter
Jace Nguyen
I masturbate a lot and have trouble getting fully hard but when i push strain during a shit like that my dick finally becomes like diamonds and i can use my fleshlight. Tis the highlight of my week tbqh
Colton Martinez
I'm just tired of people not living the lives they aspire to have, I just want to give these people reason to have conviction for their being.
Give them a reason to educate and pursue their interests, and live in a higher harmonious state with society, so society can advance.
It requires Health first, and it must be a balance of progress of all 3 aspects mind,body,soul.
Lincoln Lewis
What’s your concern with academic approval? If you’ve got the answers, write them down
Jacob Howard
Books in the colleges for the minds of today and tomorrow.
If I completely ignored the past greats, then drawing comparisons, and parallels for the reader might be confusing since the metaphors and diction might be vastly different, even tho our ideas might encompass the same structural belief systems.
Charles Rogers
I'm not enlightened but I may be "very intelligent". I'm interested in enlightenment anyway.
I've made my own belief system and, while I've read enough to know I'm not the first person to think some of these things, I still haven't read much.
There's no need to correlate knowledge to anything that came before if you've built yours from first principles. Knowing the classics would help with working from a conversation that people are already familiar with. But if your ideas are your own, and if they're good enough, they should be able to stand on their own feet.
I have a very serious interest in this. No, there's no need to rely on others to build and speak on your own ideas.
You're obviously getting at the fact that you have ideas and I'm curious what they are.
At the end I get at the heart of what I believe, but in the middle I get sidetracked in trying to explain how predetermination would still hold true given the experience of free will.
It's a pretty short post but I can reiterate the main point if you want.
Ultimately I'm interested in applying it in the real world and course correcting / editing this model from there.
Kevin Lee
Wow >I'm just tired of people not living the lives they aspire to have I highly doubt you're living the life you aspire to have (I'm certainly not) and I think it's a really disgusting characteristic to be hypocritical about that kind of thing.
I'm not in the mood for writing but "mind-body-soul" is a model that doesn't necessarily hold water in reality. In reality our "soul" and minds are the same thing. Moreover, our minds are given existence via our body. Every thought, emotion, etc has a biological (-> neurological) correlate.
I'm pretty sure Einstein said something to the effect of "if you actually understand something, you can explain it simply" - and I tend to agree.
If you've actually formed your own ideas then there no need to reference things you haven't studied or don't understand.
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Matthew Long
Just stop. The problem is you are far too didactic. No one wants that here.
Gabriel Davis
mention this to a doctor some time
Isaiah Murphy
See, I've been applying my understandings in the real world, And I've gotten results. Yes I get highs/lows of emotions, but the life has been an upward trend since then. Learning how to implement patterns is key.
I read your blog thing, and it looks like you view your life currently in an Yes/No thesis, as in everything is a 1 if it applies, and 0 if it doesn't apply.
But, I think you miss the idea of the Quantum processing, where their could be a multitude of different 1s, and you're job is to make all the 1s to 0s, so you can differentiate all the different possibilities, so in this state of view you could see that it's quantitative.
What your current idea is building up to will allow you to see how subjectivity, and objectivity are not equal, but they are non-dualistic in the sense of; Subjectivity inside objectivity and objectivity inside subjectivity.
>you may choose to have an internal interaction before reacting externally.
Who's to say the egg and the Chicken don't evolve together user?
Time does move differently in the self, compared to the outside self, and we can prove this through drug use and how it affects the mind. Any definite equation has a definite solution. Yes, Time is the dictation for this as NPvsP.
>the universe is in a definite state at any given time. Yes, I'd agree.
Dylan Evans
He wont give viagra to an 18 yo
Hudson Perry
>provide rhetorical logic? m8 shut the fuck up
Eli Sullivan
No to your entire post even asking this question assures me you're an idiot or underage
Josiah Watson
you probably don't need viagra, but if you want it, also mention you'll be climbing to altitude.
Landon Smith
Also please keep your tripfag on outside of this thread so I can filter or disregard anything you post
David Gutierrez
Yeah I agree, I don't know how to be passive in writing.
>I'm not in the mood for writing but "mind-body-soul" is a model that doesn't necessarily hold water in reality. I absolutely disagree, I use it for a purely health perspective.
Does it require me to define this? All I'm saying if you incorporate all 3 equally into your life, you'll be happier and achieve your goals you set out to do.
I use soul, as the "spiritual" side of our self, and Mind as the intellectual side of our self. One should view Humanities and God's goal as 1, and then you can apply your self to both.
>Every thought, emotion, etc has a biological (-> neurological) correlate. Yes, this is why one must be happy with their self, and their image, and to judge others over them self, and vice versa.
I like to say we are all 1>=
Adrian Barnes
will do, but i don't always trip. sorry
Nicholas Cruz
Fucking christ all your posts are painful to read, this is the content one would imagine if the site hosting /b/ created a literature board
Blake Long
i don't really care man, but maybe you could help me out and point out why.
Noah James
>but maybe you could help me Honestly read other philosophers, it will give you perspective. At the very least it's a useful exercise in articulation
Cameron Adams
yeah that's what I was worried about, thank you.
Jayden Reed
>Learning how to implement patterns is key Literally a foundation of my belief
>If one were to manage to reconcile all that is good (True) in an idea with all that is bad (False), the idea would be synthesized into a ‘Law’. I believe this kind of Law would be no less than any other scientific law, ‘Do A under B conditions and the result will be C’.
>I believe microcosmic laws can be applicable in parallel microcosmic situations, and also as macrocosmic guides to live by.
I started off calling them patterns, likening them to plaid. If something works it's like a tiny square, and it can be applied (if you whittle down the hubris and cultivate its truth) as a larger and larger square.
Beyond that, it's a serious meme to talk about quantum physics to describe bullshit.
I think it's an inherent goal to have your subjective viewpoint to conform with objective reality.
The egg gives is what gives birth to the chicken.. The evolutionary processes may have been slow. You may think and then act, which then gives birth to a new way of thinking.
We're kind of getting nowhere with this though.
Perception is different from reality. If you move perceive to have slowed then time is only slowing down for you.
Again, not getting anywhere right now.
I'm just illustrating models here and, until they're honed via the scientific method into truth, then they don't always hold much weight.
I'm up for talking about anything here and I'm down to keep going back and forth, but with the blog I'm just trying to talk about tangible things I can apply in reality.
I'm doing pic right now and it doesn't have me the most focused, but I really want to talk about
>One should view Humanities and God's goal as 1
In the beginning the goals of God and the goals of the individual are inherently opposite.
I see God as a de facto title, which is to say I see God as nature. The God of humans would encompass all of us. For the sake of argument I'll be talking about the God of humans.
The goal of God is the greatest good for the greatest amount of people. The inherent goal of the individual is the greatest good / happiness for himself.
The end result of a human achieving this goal is complete control of other humans.
The best way to achieve a good / happy outcome in any situation is to have control over it. Power.
Money is the most tangible form of power in society, but people remain the biggest source of it.
The best way to ensure power over people is to have them give it to you voluntarily. To essentially have them completely love and worship you. This is the only way they'd put their complete effort into exercising your will. In order to keep them exercising your will, they'd have to be completely fulfilled in doing so
As of now, God (of humans) is basically insane. All of these competing consciousness' trying to find maximal happiness
This is where the wills of the self and God align
Gavin Hernandez
Perfecting your own ideas are the only articulation you'd need
I'm doing pic right now and I'm pretty unfocused, but for me at least, I just want to move piece by piece forming, editing, completing more of this thing that I've been thinking of for the past 7 years.
I'm not against reading the agreed upon greats but I don't think I need to stand on their shoulders in order to make something worthwhile.
Caleb Stewart
I agree, which is why I defined my trinity to encompass what I view as the totallity of perfection if viewed as a form of progressive states.