The intro/synopsis is like a burning hot iron rod jabbing into my eyes screaming "THIS IS BAD STORY! DO NOT READ!"?
William Garcia
I can see that happening, cause overall the whole "meta awareness" schtick is played out as seven fucks, but in this case the author works well with it. Try like 5 chapters maybe you'll like it.
Asher Moore
I got halfway into the prologue before I couldn't stand it anymore. I probably would have read it a few months ago, but I've recently developed a sense of taste after reading through an 1100 chapter xiaxia and realizing that I just spent a whole week reading a giant pile of shit for no reason. My ability to take the bad with the good seems to be gone. Honestly, I've got a mountain of way better things that I can't be bothered to read piled infront of me, no need to bother with anything even mildly distasteful.
What do you do when you realize you'd rather just stare at a wall for 6 hours than even think about reading another book?
Austin Morgan
>What do you do when you realize you'd rather just stare at a wall for 6 hours than even think about reading another book?
Watch shitty let's plays on Youtube.
Angel Stewart
>What are your favorite books about the Red Planet? Red rising
Blake Murphy
I once read a communist novella called The Red Star that might be of interest to someone. Thoroughly enjoyed it. The communist stuff later on got boring and dragged for a while but the story is excellent, sort of like A Princess of Mars (although it predates it) set during pre-Soviet Russia instead of America.
Ryder Rivera
>Giving a story an african setting based on african myth doesn't make it original, but it gives readers an experience they haven't seen before. In theory, but what actually happens is there's the same tired fantasy story about an edgy hero who fights the Dark Lord but everyone has blaxploitation-tier names.
Luke Young
What is everyone's opinion on The Man Who Folded Himself?
I'm thinking about getting into it next..
Luis Ross
I remember not finishing it in middle school because I found it too degenerate
Wyatt Perry
give me something SHORT (150 pages or less)
Liam Jones
your dick
Mason Ross
haha
Jose Murphy
What a shitty book. Terrible dialog, uni-dimensional characters (except maybe the wolf-girl and her mother), bad plot. It's hard to find a single good thing about it. The races are bland, there is no novelty to it, one is the stuck-up elves who are gods, but not-really, except one of their subspecies are yes-really because they are magicians! And not just magicians, they are literally gods that raise mountains and flood market-places while trying to build statues, but wait, they can't make food or... water? Uh-um makes sense. The others are mostly absent except for the humans, who are stone-age villagers that will fight their mighty overlord for their injustices. I wonder how that will turn out, some humans equipped with stone axes and leather armor, against the super sayajins ultra-fast elves and their superb metalsmithing. Also their all-powerful gods that can make mountais higher than anything else appear beneath their (and their enemies) feet. Boy, I sure love to read some stories about genocides, can't wait for the next book! But wait, the humans found some magic armor conveniently left by the dwarves, with magic runes that block magic!, just outside their village, man, this incompetent humans who can't metalwork while every other race could for millennia sure sound lucky, huh! Oh, there's also the intra-village politics, fun as hell! I hate reading about reasonable people in positions of power, better they be some dumb stubborn paranoids who think everyone is aiming for their jobs instead, right? After all, who doesn't want the privilege of having to go on hunts against killer-bears, and facing their overlord elves when they come knocking, and knocking down, their gates, right?
Samuel Carter
do androids dream of electric sheep don't remember the exact length may, be a little more than 150 pages but it was still a short book
Jace Allen
Is all of modern fantasy shit? Why can't any author hurry the fuck up and get to the point instead of wasting time on 73910 characters?
Brandon Hernandez
Is it better than the movie? Cuz I hated that.
James Hernandez
Kys you soulless piece of scum
Jaxson Campbell
Sounds to me like you are butthurt over elves.
Brody Cox
Blade Runner is one of the all time master pieces of cinema while Androids is just a good sci fi novel the book and the movie are pretty different though and disliking one does not necessarily mean you dislike the other though disliking either makes you a tasteless pleb
Camden Flores
Fuck off Elrond you righteous asshole. Should've pushed Isildur in the fire when you had the chance.
Luis Brooks
Maybe you should just stop reading books with elves in them if you are going to keep getting this upset.
Jason Butler
I would actually enjoy it more if it were about the elves having their genocide against the lowly human scum. After all, a single elf lives 3ky, there have been at least 3 elven generations (9ky), and the elves have fought wars in that period, that's almost 10ky of elven supremacy, and during all that time they knew of metallurgy. Meanwhile, humans can't do fucking copper! Who the fuck wrote this shit?? 10ky without being able to produce copper while there are metalwork industries in other parts of the world? And these guys want to fight? Just kill them all already, they've proven themselves inferior. But somehow that won't happen, and that gets me mad.
If you want a challenging story, don't write about america willing to use their atomic arsenal against tribesmen. That's boring.
Brody Smith
I'm not even him, just LARPing as an antielf xenophobe. I think he hates the book for reasons other than elfdom tho.
Ryan Moore
They aren't technically elves. They are Fhrey, nimble tall blonde beings with leaf-shaped ears who are also very quick and can do magic if they shave their heads. Once you get that descriptions you have already downloaded the book and you don't know, maybe they won't be so bad, right?
James Edwards
Out of somewhat contemporary fantasy I've read lately I've liked the first book of Locke Lamora, the Farseer Trilogy and Jonathan Strange. I don't know about you but I don't believe all modern fantasy is shit.
Joseph Moore
>If something got banned they'd slap a big "NOT FOR SALE IN NEW YORK STATE" label on the next printing and sell another million copies. Good times. When will this happen again?
Julian Cox
Strange and Norrell is such an offbeat thing I completely blanked on it. Yes, it is very good but all the series shilled here sound absolutely awful and I have no energy to read a doorstopper only to come out disappointed. Tell me about Farseer and Lamora tho.
Daniel Lewis
It happened when Al Gore's wife tried to fuck with The Dead Kennedys
Joshua Parker
I thought it was self-published. Are publishers really willing to touch that crap?
Landon Gray
What can you tell me about Gene Wolfe? Should I read Botns or is it a meme? I started reading it, but it was so abstract I gave it a time and forgot to keep going, now I'd have to read it all over again. I don't want to bother reading another "we are all doomed, this is how we suffer" story, is it like that?
Jaxon Sullivan
The book is about a man who claims to be somewhat obsessed with saving the world from the dying sun. He also says at the beginning that, by the end, he will be ruler. But aside from all that it is, less explicitly but moreso, a story about a man desperate for self-discovery. In that, he is successful. The next set of books in the series, Urth of the New Sun, is more about his quest to fix the whole sun problem. It is generally less recommended because it turns out that characters are usually more interesting than that sort of thing.
Samuel Peterson
Isn't it weird that doing something like this is probably more socially acceptable than spending 6 hours reading a book?
Bentley Torres
reading? LMAO what are you a fag?
John Powell
As someone who's read the first two books and hasn't touched the last two for six months, it's not for everyone. In my view, it's just boring. It's VERY GOOD at establishing a particular mood and atmosphere, that of dreams and confusion. If you want that dreamlike, intentionally confusing and nonsensical but somehow just close enough to understandable that it feels like it makes sense feeling, then it's perfect. If you're like me and don't really give a fuck about it, it's a mildly interesting setting written competently. But, a lot like a dream, you'll read it for hours, then find that you don't actually remember anything that happened, and even if you do none of it made sense or had any purpose. Maybe it gets better if you read the whole thing, but even if it's some sort of amazing revelation at the end and you suddenly think its a masterpiece, you still spent hours and hours forcing yourself to read something you didn't like. Like imagine if eating a hundred pounds of steaming dogshit gave you superpowers. How many people would actually eat it?
Samuel Butler
Are there any reviewers in the fantasy genre worth trusting? Most of the ones I see are blindly positive about everything they read, even if it's got Sanderson-tier dialogue. I want a reviewer who cares more about plot and characters and prose than a "cool" "magic system" and "interesting" and "creative" "worldbuilding."
Hunter Walker
>Tell me about Farseer and Lamora tho They're no masterpieces. For me their main virtues are being decently written, not to long and more contained, if you get my meaning. They're about the adventures of a couple of characters, not about the fate of the world.
Farseer kinda feels like what Kingkiller is trying to be. A coming of age story with an orphan, an array of good/bad mentors, training interlaced with adventures in the country and some hints at romance. However it's way shorter, not pretentious and does not try to be something it's not which makes it work for me.
Locke Lamora is a thieving adventure in a big city with some magic and mysteries. It's mainly known for extensive swearing, starts out horrible but is surprisingly exciting and likeable. From what I've heard the sequels are shit but that does not matter as the book work fine as a standalone.
Nicholas Foster
> The Lies of Locke Lamora > Baru Cormorant > The Blade Itself > The Darkness That Comes Before (do not read past that!) > Narrenturm
Caleb Lee
Thanks for the rec, I'm up for some soviet fiction.
Easton Cooper
This is Gene turf, you take those faggotous beliefs and shove them up your urethra cocksuck.
Nathan Morris
the premise of blade runner that we'd be fine with slavery of biological beings nearly identical to us that match us in intelligence just because we created them is quite absurd to me.
Ethan Ortiz
Wolfe down my cock you fagger than fag motherfucker!
Justin Wright
Since were all shitting on modern fantasy this might be a bad place to ask but since its less stuck up then outer lit what are good suggestions for a book club for scifi and fantasy. Each book should take a normal person only a month to read.
Kayden Hernandez
in the novel they are less human and more synthetic than in the movie though
Logan Moore
WE
Chase Murphy
I was in exactly your position, actually. Book 3 starts off really, really slow. But after the first 5% or so of it (according to my Kindle,) once he stops talking about the fucking city itself, it very quickly becomes the most exciting and concrete book in the series so far. The action tapers off in Book 4, but it remains concrete. I'm not sure why the first two books are so vague in comparison, but I highly recommend going through with the rest of it. If the first two books were Mulholland Dr., the next two are the original run of Twin Peaks - and David Lynch really is the best comparison I can think of for BotNS.
Jayden Moore
What's a normal person? I'm serious, I have no idea how fast people read. For me a month is like one of those 27 book series, or those 11 million word webnovels. I can't think of an actual physical book that's ever taken me more than a day to read.
Jayden Myers
slow down or read shit worth thinking about you cannot convince me you'd read something like Infinite Jest in a month and comprehend much of it
Jacob Parker
Why would I read Infinite Jest at all?
Dylan Wood
You might have a small penis
Asher Hill
it's a good book do you just stick to stuff you can absorb fully in skimming? i guess that kind of makes sense in this thread since a lot of sff is popcorn tier bullshit but don't you want to read to learn from the author sometimes?
Because I might read Infinite Jest? Or because I won't? Or just in general?
I don't skim, I just read in very long blocks. When I say a book a day, I mean the WHOLE DAY. When I read I start the moment I wake up and keep going until I finish, 16, 18, 24 hours at a time. If there are more books or it's longer I keep going. I've read for 48 hours straight, and I've read in 20 days for a week straight. I'm guessing most people don't sped NEARLY as much time a day, maybe an hour or two at most, but I just don't work lie that.
Noah Lopez
*20 hour days
Owen Fisher
i changed my mind you definitely have a small penis
Caleb Edwards
Need good contemporary SF recs.
Ryan Cox
Rude tebehe lad.
Benjamin Smith
What should i read next? Distress or Schild's Ladder or Teranesia or Diaspora ?
Nathan Reyes
>contemporary y tho?
Charles Jones
Just finished Replay by Ken Grimmwood It enjoyed it a lot Anything similar to it?
Dylan Diaz
For most of history people have been fine with the enslavement of biological beings nearly or entirely identical to them, that match them in intelligence, and without even having created those beings.
Joshua Davis
cool link?
Blake Parker
Three Body Problem.
Why read contemporary tho?
Brandon Robinson
wtf i want cyberpunk with niggers now
Levi Sullivan
>The thing is, people who read genre fiction seem to not mind a lack of originality. In fact you could even say that lack of originality is what makes genre fiction what it is. After all, what is a genre if not a semi-formalized set of cliches? Don't people in this very thread complain bitterly if you deviate too heavily from established norms in their favorite genres? The fact is these unoriginal novels that come out year after year manage to sell many, many copies. How do you explain Brandon Sanderson's success? Sure his "magic systems" and "world building" is original on the surface (in that nobody ever thought of that exact configuration of descriptions before), but the underlying structure is the same old epic fantasy song and dance we've seen for the last 40 years and people lap it up.
>And if you think it's an age thing, that it's just the older readers set in their ways and the youth crave new things, then you've forgotten what it's like to be young. The youth don't have taste and don't know what they like. The first series a young person reads is indelibly imprinted onto their psyche as a favorite, no matter how shitty it is. There are people in this thread who feel nostalgia for Eragon simply because it was one of if not the first fantasy book they ever read. There's no other way to explain that except young people simply have no taste and will read anything you put in front of them.
what about pic related?
Evan Miller
The Northern Caves was great. Anyone here read Floornight?
Ryder Ramirez
Because I've already read through most of the good 60s, 70s and 80s SF, and I want to catch up on the current trends and ideas of the SF world.
Jace Morales
It's kind of the 19th/early 20th century version of YA but I liked John Carter, certainly better than the only other series about Mars that I've ever read
Isaiah Stewart
laughed
Levi Hernandez
I was honestly intrigued but page one thoughtfully revealed a strong independent womyn so I instadropped
Liam Harris
>10ky without being able to produce copper while there are metalwork industries in other parts of the world? And these guys want to fight?
The Aztecs would like a word
Wyatt Howard
>multiple POVs Enough of this meme.
Jeremiah Scott
I am Legend
160 pages and well worth a read
Jose Smith
have you read all 11 books?
Matthew Jenkins
I read the synopsis and holy shit does it sound bad. It's like fucking Divergent levels of shitty YA-ness, not to mention the cripplingly blunt and obvious """social commentary""". HURR DURR THIS COLOUR OF PEOPLE ARE OPPRESSING THIS COLOUR OF PEOPLE.
Come on lad, get some better taste than that.
Jacob Martinez
>Maybe it gets better if you read the whole thing
It's basically one book in four parts, so yeah some "random occurrences" in book one only become relevant in book four, some appear to serve no purpose other than revealing things about the world, setting tone, or foreshadowing. It's genre fiction for Veeky Forumserati, and requires a modicum of literary familiarity to appreciate fully. I am perhaps lucky both to have studied medieval literature at university and European history as a hobby, because there are a lot of things in it that I doubt anyone will really get without that background knowledge.
There was no part of it that I felt was a slog, I got impatient with the first framed narrative until I realized what was going on and by the time you get to the canterbury tales section of book 4 you should be used to it already. Book 1 is maybe the slowest-paced but only in the sense that he doesn't even leave the city but even that serves a narrative purpose and the prose itself is never a chore to work through.
Luke Harris
Rightfully ded. But it's not the same in the slightest. They were completely isolated, unlike the book, where they knew these things existed and didn't try to figure out how.
Nicholas Sanders
This. I can tolerate about 5, if I have to stretch. The less the better, though.
Liam Walker
No, I don't remember how many I read but the only one I felt warranted a reread was the first. Actually now that you mention it I bought a hardcover compilation after finishing however many paperbacks which I never got around to reading, I wonder if it was the whole series...
Dylan Flores
Kim Stanley Robinsons Mars trilogy is probably the gold standard. Stephen Baxters Mars is all good, and the first proper sf novel I read. but to tell you truth I still enjoy the Old Mars of C.L. Moore and Leigh Brackett.
Camden Robinson
I need a new time travel book to read! Help.
Brody Martinez
What does /lit think of this?
John Martin
I can't be the only one reading this
Landon Morris
I read it while eating mom's pancakes
Kayden Jenkins
Singularity's Ring by Melko
tldr please? Cover looks like normie popular book
Samuel Smith
Future Times Three (French: Le Voyageur imprudent)
Nathaniel Hughes
Ballard is always a bit disturbing I mostly liked The Drowned World tho and Supercannes is on my to read list
Henry Watson
Had a read about it online. Not sure about it desu. The premise seems interesting, but the premise of the premise seems cliche as fuck. A dystopian Britain where the state spies on you? Please, it's been done to death so much that we're doing it for real now.
Daniel King
I finished BotNS recently. Should I start Malzahan, or would I be disappointed?
Angel Gonzalez
Get into Sleator. Marco's Millions and Singularity are the best ones.
Xavier Cooper
you're not going to like it
Jackson Gonzalez
Overlords of War by Gerard Klein What's with the French and time travel?