/sFFG/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

Ok, here goes nothing.

E-book: gutenberg.org/ebooks/1059
Audio: gutenberg.org/ebooks/8968

I picked this story based on its length (140 pages), because it's easy to get for free and because how bad can it possibly be? Next time around we'll go full democracy and most likely read some cat girl porn.

The deadline is based on the amount of pages, I feel like 50 pages/week is a reasonable amount that won't really intrude on whatever you people do on an average day.

Who know? Lots of people seem successful starting things off as a webnovel and then after building enough attention self publishing or attracting a publisher. I imagine it's a lot easier getting published if you already have a fanbase.
Your best option is to find some way of doing both. Trying to get something published won't be so arduous if you've already got your own thing going on.

What do you realistically have to lose by submitting it to agents? Free time?

>cat girl porn.
*ears twitch* muurrh?

one or more of them might think it's so bad that they track me down by my return address and come laugh at me in real life.

Self-publish/web-publishing the first novel and then seeking a publisher for the next ones is a common path.
Self-publishing and then trying to get a publisher for the same novel is a no-go, since publishers typically don't want to spend money on marketing a book a bunch of people have already bought.

Webnovels are novels too

/sffg/ think this villain concept can be done without it coming off as preachy?

>guy is a tobacco dealer in pressed suit whose face is obscured by the smoke of a strange indian pipe
>offers a weeks supply free to struggling smoke shop owners as a sign of goodwill
>customers report a feeling of profound insight and inspiration that dissipates at the edge of epiphany
>When they see their profits, the vendors pony up to prices that seem far more than fair
>As he leaves, they're too busy to notice the money turning to ashes in his hands
>Only once the shop keeps and customers become dependent does the smoke man make his demands, acts even hardened criminals wouldn't dare commit
>distrubing rights, human sacrifice, and ritual cannibalism in the name of a god far more ancient than he is
>those who try to kill him end up as human-shaped smudges of ash on the wall
>and then those smudges start walking

scp tier story.
go write an entry about smoke guy.

And you get your chance to kneecap them and thus create a sensationalist media coverage about yourself and your novel that finds you a publisher.

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?

...

I think this is the more important question

...

I support this idea and will read it.

Nael, age 6, plagiarized Steven Erikson's "Memories of Ice" to write his popular poem "The Tiger"
Naek, age 6, is confirmed fellow.genrefag

>Doors of Stone
>get released
You must give up all hope friend
Youll be happier for it

I'm having a breakdown, why does everything have to start so fucking boring?
>The Thousand Names

Our regimen sucks our odds suck everything is a mess I'm being bullied oh look a square and giant shotgun

>Malazan

Gruntled - amused - grantled - amused - gruntled.

You grill know or names, and our names are Names woooah.

>divinity:original sin 2 (because it's the same shit)

You can't cast magic even though you can now work on that escape plan for the next 12 hours

At least with Malazan i'm only at the beginning, with Shadow Campaigns I'm still waiting for that magic moment of getting bought in seven hours in.

Guy Gavriel Kay
Where should i start?

>that cover
Isn't that a Frankenstein cover?

sweet. ill be reading it.

>look it up
>it actually is
To be precise one of them is flipped.

>pretend to be a retarded man so the andy will let you into the apartment where you plan on killing his wife and then him
ice cold deckard
that's the way it is in this bitch of a world

I finished Echopraxia last night and man, it had decent bits but it wasn't as good as Blindsight by any means. Like you asked, there were a lot of unanswered questions and it felt like whenever questions were about to be answered or there were interesting interactions (Bruks and Valerie talking by the campfire, Bruks talking to his wife in Heaven, etc.), it was disrupted for PLOT reasons.
Not a big fan.

I've got a question for you guys. What do you like to see in your protagonists? Or what would you like more of?
As far as YA goes, I wish kids were punished more for their choices. I think most of us can look back at some terrible decisions that made us feel horrible and people that used us and deceived us, but YA does a very bad job of passing on stuff like that to a new generation.
When it concerns most books, I wish more of them had characters that had people that were outcasts for good reason, not "omg because his people are mean : (" Drizzt tier stories. I think Martin did a good job with Tyrion in that way, because he's an actual little shit, and the same could be said for Glokta from Blade Itself since he's basically a Punished Chad. But there's so little of that. Never mind actual monsters as characters that have to live within their own world, like a story from Gollum's perspective or a WoD nossie.
Lastly, it'd be nice to have some readable female protagonists. It's incredible how shit most of them are, regardless of whether it's women or men writing them. 90% of the time it's into-the-trash tier.

tigana

To the a on that wanted a book about fuckinb an AI : Otherlife Awakenings

Has anyone read The Order of the Sanguines series? Any good?

Okay.

> I think Martin did a good job with Tyrion in that way
he's an outcast because he's a dwarf, only his father has a real reason to dislike him
>90% of the time it's into-the-trash tier.
name 5 good female characters

>he's an outcast because he's a dwarf
Wrong.
>only his father has a real reason to dislike him
Wrong again.
>name 5 good female characters
I can't but I'm going to allow the possibility that they do exist. I guess Cersei and Brienne in ASoIaF are alright.

Well, in my opinion...
Bruks was half scared half washed up so he was hiding in the desert. To what degree the Bicamerals manipulated this is up to you.
I think that by the time "he" killed the vampire,
Portia was essentially controlling him. Or he's paranoid baseline
Perhaps, the sentiment from Valerie (why can't we get along) is likely to spoken to Portia within Bruks head, and it's exactly the kind of mindless chatter which Rorschach/Portia hate so perhaps thats when it decided to kill her.
Her goal was to interpret Portia. Who knows if she did or not.
The bicamerals did, and we willing to sacrifice themselves.
There are some bigger questions on Echo out there that even I don't have an answer for.

I'm sad you guys didn't like it. All I can recommend it letting it settle for a bit then re-read it. Echopraxia is easily the more difficult of the Firefall duet, but my god it's got a lot more going on, and I personally think it's a lot more thematically interesting and ultimately the better book.

Can I nominate Lord of Light for another one of these? The downside might be that people have already read it, but it's pretty short and really good. It's pretty easily readable online, though I don't think there's an audiobook.

I'm writing here because I think this is most appropriate. I remember a photo from here, that compared epic fantasies, there was lotr I think and asoiaf, and how theyre all straightforward, and then another book series that had a great number of books and all of them went in a very convoluted order. Do you happen to know which book series I'm talking about?

lol no.

You do learn more in Long and Short Sun, though.

I don't know the specific chart you're talking about but I'm almost certain the convoluted series is Malazan.

>Can I nominate Lord of Light for another one of these?
300 pages is longer than I envisioned but after this first round I'm not going to play dictator any more so if more people want to read it I don't see why not.

It is! This is the photo I was talking about, thank you

Dictators get things done.

What exactly were Heinlein's political beliefs? I've read Starship Troopers, Stranger in a Strange Land and The Moon is a Harsh Mistress and I'm impressed by how radically different the philosophies he preaches in each one are.

Pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

That The Government (nor anyone else) shall not meddle if you want to fuck your friend/cousin/sister/mother/whomever. That's probably the most important part.

I need 2 book reccomendations.
1 that is similar to legend of galatic heroes.
1 that is pure geopolitical autism, doesnt matter the setting.

Well the picture is a famous one of Byron, so technically you're all fags

Lions of Tigana if you wish to see what makes him so great.
Fionavar Tapestry if you want more of the traditional fantasy elements.

The Traitor Baru Cormorant -- geopolitics and economics in a fantasy world. I'm reading this at the moment and it's quite clever

new video is up

youtube.com/watch?v=6dI1HjBa9Os

as far as you tube chanels about books and writing goes his videos are good

It's a great image desu, so I'm fine with being a fag.

I find he injects his own personal beliefs into his videos too much.

Dont you fuckers ever forget who's the king round these parts

>friend starting reading Hyperion
>says he's loving it
>randomly stops reading it after Kassad's tale
>no updates since
how the fuck do people actually watch Netflix over reading? It's pathetic

Just realized how much I hate ASOIF today and binned my copy of the book. Was thinking of reading Malazan instead. Should I or is it too similar?

I agree, it has a great sense of both adventurism and silent contemplation. If that combination piques your interest I'd recommend reading about Byron's life.

Which book? We will probably never get TWoW anyway.

Try The Wheel of Time.

A storm of swords. It's not really this book specifically that's the problem as much as it is the series overall not appealing to me. Grrm only kept me reading for 3000 pages because he's a master of blueballing. That southpark episode with the whole "the pizza will be here soon" bit was 100% accurate of his writting.

Yeah, that is the problem with GRRM. Stick to the TV series of GoT, at least that will have a proper ending and we will get to see it.

There is one more book after TWoW, A Dream of Spring. He doesn't have enough life left in him to finish that book so unless you have already read all of the current books it isn't worth doing so.

Why do you hate it? It might be that you hate epic fantasy, and if that is the case reading Malazan (or WoT) is the last thing you should do.

>There is one more book after
At least. I'm doubtful he won't end up writing at least one more book after aDoS.

I just checked on goodreads and there is one more book after aDoS. According to Goodreads TWoW is 2020, aDoS 2021 and the untitled book 2022. So we are still 2 years away from TWoW and there are bound to be even more delays between the last two books. And this is assuming he isn't dead by then.

>and the untitled book 2022
I don't think GRRM himself has confirmed there'll be a 8th book, however. I think he's still aiming for the 7th to be the last one. I think he'll fail ending it by then, and it seems like I'm not alone in that.

i mean, sanderson has probably already started writing the drafts for the end of asoiaf right?

Why do you elitist asshole fags always come in here and try to subvert/convert sffg users to your shit books? We don't want fucking poems. Fuck off.

you soyboys were told already that gurm has a will. when he dead, no one finishes his book.

>soyboys
Stop trying to fit in by posting shitty forced memes.

>We don't want fucking poems. Fuck off.
On the contrary, I appreciated anons post and have already been thinking about getting more into Byron. It's absolutely possible to like both SFF and elitistic pseud shit.

You need to leave.

Que sera sera mein friendo.

Nah.

Anyone else read Count to Infinity yet? Way better than the last two. My favorite part was when he picks up a galaxy as a shield and a supermassive black hole as a spear and Sora Iro Days starts playing.

Now that the dust has settled.

How good was it?

Not good at all. His worst entry to the Stormlight Archive by far.

this isnt a good sign for someone about to go pick up the first book here in a couple minutes

The 1st 2 books are fantastic. This is the Wheel of Time all over again. Stretching a series with 10 books backfires eventually.

Like why do people like you keep hating on Sanderson? What part didn't you exactly like?

Not him, but I stopped reading The Way of Kings in the first sentence of the prologue when it introduced a character named "Szeth".

>not dropping it in the prelude

Coincidentally, I also stopped reading The Name of the Wind once it introduced a character named "Kvothe".

I'm trying to find a new series to read, I liked the following pretty well, would anyone care to give any recommendations?

Gaunts Ghosts
Undying Mercenaries
First Law Trilogy
The Black Company
Flashman Papers
Sharpe

Cryptonomicon, especially the Shaftoe parts.

Looks like it focuses on technical stuff a lot, not generally into that honestly.

Is this a good book? I don't overtly love sci-fi but I heard this is one of the better series.

any suggestions for fantasy/scifi that focuses more on a strange world than the character interaction?
I'm looking for inspiration of strange things to put into a game that's basically a 3d clone of Yume Nikki

so basically I'm looking for odd events, creatures, architecture, whatever. As long as it's a strange and unique world that is getting explored.

Never heard of it.

Societies where every individual is a "full" member. His books explore this in different ways. Or so I think from reading them.

has Gene Wolfe ever written a bad book

>is this a good book
Depends on what you like. It's quite a demanding read compared to your average SFF book.

It's good if you leave aside the fact that the character behaves like a robot.

If you mean this robot

>mfw good writers can't write good main characters and bad writers can

Go read the previous thread. Ctrl+F oathbringer.