How come no authors or philosophers debate if twice two make 4 or 5 anymore?

How come no authors or philosophers debate if twice two make 4 or 5 anymore?

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bcuz it do

Because that's fucking retarded

it's cheaper to mail a calculator back to him in response now.

Frege pretty much solved all that math shit

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twice two makes four, this is a scientific fact. But man does not always function merely by scientific fact. For Dostoevsky the rational part of a man's being is only one part of his makeup. That is, man is composed both of the rational (two times two makes four) and the irrational. It would be nice to think sometimes that twice two makes five. This would be, in Dostoevsky's words, "a very charming idea also." The point is that if man functions solely as a rational being, then man's actions are always predictable. Dostoevsky's point is that man's actions are not predictable. There are even some men who enjoy suffering and are only happy when they suffer. Consequently in a socialistic society where man's security and happiness is being assured, this would deny the fact that men — some men — want to suffer and are improved by their suffering.

>2+2 = 4 is a fact
>Some think it doesn't make 4
>muh pain of being a man

I have no idea what you're trying to imply by this. I'm not sure Dostoevsky has anything to do with it either, especially the last part about suffering. Is believing 2+2 = 5 suffering? What? Are you just name dropping to look smart?

2 x 2 = 4 can only exist in our mind but not in reality.
No two things are complete duplicates . if 2 x2 really equals 4 then there is no freewill .

"Whatever a man prays for, he prays for a miracle. Every prayer reduces itself to this: Great God, grant that twice two be not four." - Ivan Turgenev


holy shit rationalists BTFO how will they ever recover?

Because positivism destroyed all intellectual thought in western civ

the fact that we can pick the logical or the illogical is what makes us human
if they tell you that twice 2 makes 4
laugh in their face are refuse their conclusions.

>if twice two make 4 or 5 anymore

read Notes from Underground before you put on the airs of a drafty basement you dickshit

The 2 + 2 = 4 thing comes up in Crime and Punishment. He's not just name-dropping for luls. Dost. creates a sort of middle ground, in which man has two parts, one rational and irrational. The rational will always know 2 + 2 = 4, but for the irrational part of a man doesn't obey formulaic thinking this and doesn't act accordingly to logic.

One of the points dost. argued against was that socialism would remove crime/sadness. If you create a society that is logically sound( security + happiness = good citizens) it will still break because some men are inherently irrational and only find happiness through suffering, which would be more like -2 -2 = 4.

So basically post-modernism is correct

>2+2=5

Retard

just stop

Good post

I mean that's definitely not the historical implication. Keep in mind that in the case of dost. He's writing in the mid 1800s. You could probably make the argument that he was setting the stage for postmodernism. I think this coping with the implications of widespread scientific knowledge and trying to find it's boundaries is pretty widespread with this time era, whereas postmodernists / more recent literature is more engaged in actively shitting on these ideas and rejecting traditional logic. But I'm definitely not an expert so take that with a grain of salt.

3/4, not bad

You're a good poster user, hope people in your life appreciate you

Thanks user. I usually lurk but went to a Crime and Punishment play adaptation last night so I was like, shit I should try and explain this if I can. Little worried that my normie friends are going to go into work tomorrow thinking dost. was a playwright but eh, whatever.

I think for the most part, I am, but I do appreciate the compliment. There's no need to be a fuck just because it's Veeky Forums.

>twice two makes four, this is a scientific fact
>scientific fact
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Are you fucking retarded or are you 12?

Math is a language. 2 x 2 is as valid as "a rock is a rock."