Are the so-called "Chiraq Savages" of today the closest people we have to Homer's heroes that we have today?
>live in economically disadvantaged backwaters that are largely ignored by those who are more wealthy >extremely concerned with honor, status, fame >very concerned with how many women they have, and in particular how envious other men are of them for the specific women that they have >engage in violence for disputes involving pride, money, women >record their exploits in rhythmic, seemingly formulaic oral compositions (rap music) (see Perry's oral-formulaic hypothesis... apparently there have been papers examining the link between this and rap music going back to the 90s at least)
now write an epic hip-hopera and roll in the money and bitches
Carson Bennett
i saw a lecture from prof kagan (great classics scholar) at yale (its on yale open courseware) where he says that the chariots used by greeks were basically used in a way comparable to so-called "drive-by" shootings, and even makes that exact comparison.
Jordan Smith
Hector was actually worried about not being part of his son's life.
Robert Long
>Rappers can't be good fathers
Logan Ward
Coolio's "Gangster's Paradise" always struck me as a perfect summation of the background to Romeo and Juliet. To add to your last point, the Norse also engaged in flyting which was basically lyrical battles.
But I think most of your points describe primitive humanity in general, with the trials of youth to manhood and what not. I think that, in America, the lack of a strong and ancient cultural identity drives people to unconsciously recreate these primitive rituals in order to create some sort of understandable order to the world and themselves, even if the end result is tragically ignorant and destructive. I feel like a lot of the old rap, hip-hop, and poor African-American youth culture was an attempt to do this (and early gangs even started out as youth clubs because they had nowhere to go, such as the Boy Scouts). I think, nowadays, It's mostly a soulless imitation of the older generation. But I suppose that could be said for all people.
Luke Murphy
I have thought about it while watching The Wire, imagine the whole chronicle of a neighborhood the stories you would hear and the sort of slang they use.
Anthony Evans
Of course they are. They even practice libation, like the ancient Greeks.
Jonathan Flores
>Hip-hopera Lel. Sadly I am but a poor white male from a rural background and my knowledge is too surface level to pass as street.
Christian Evans
>comparing rap and hood "culture" to greek epics
I thought Veeky Forums was a smart board
Leo White
Well Montana of 300, aside from being wildly inconsistent in quality, has the highest peaks of rap as poetry, so maybe.
It is true that you could very easily fit a guy beat boxing into the rhythm of the Iliad
Adam Myers
gangbanging blacks aren't fun at all, it's a boring, violent culture. Chill black schizo homeless people are bro tier though. >tfw very few friends first two years of college, spent hours walking around Baltimore chilling with random homeless peeps to avoid existential loneliness
Christian Garcia
contd. I'm pretty sure I actually owe my life to these fuckers. >tfw extremely depressed during finals weeks b/c exam stress and oneitis >homeless guy comes up to me asks for money >give him dollar + cig >he tells me I'm a good person and that god is looking out for me >use that to boost ego and avoid anheroing
Dylan Russell
>gangbanging blacks aren't fun at all, it's a boring, violent culture. like the greeks of the heroic age
Elijah Walker
You could wear blackface.
Ryan Hall
Close. Its actually an Evolan Mannerbund >Loyalty is the basis of their honour >Close knit male martial society >Hierarchy based on nobility >Disregards wom*n >Requires initiation and proofs of loyalty Reminder that in 1989 the Bloods made Evola an honourary member
Noah Ward
i would imagine that all of the more barbarous people have these traits to an extent, even ones without a connection to european culture.
Parker Green
yes, yes he is. In fact he is better than the original.
Dylan Garcia
>Reminder that in 1989 the Bloods made Evola an honourary member Sauce?
