Be honest with yourself: she's smarter and more talented than you

rupi kaur

fpwp
the only thing more disdainful than the potterboos are the people shitting on JK. her books are unironically great, it's only you edgelords and fangays who forget that the audience target is between 9 and 11 yrs old.
she doesn't deserve neither the success, nor the hatred for being successful

I've read White Teeth and half of On Beauty, she's witty but won't matter very much in a few decades (not that she matters now)

>it's racist to say similar books are similar

The Invisible Man is a damn great book, so is Native Son.

On Beauty was terrible. I haven't read a book that trite on "big ideas" since Coetzee's Disgrace. Coincidentally both of them have the sleazy background "idea" about the nature of Art with a capital A or the effort that goes into creating it. It seems like the sort of refuge that second rate writers like Woolf are barely able to avoid triteness with and ninth rate authors like Smith/Coetzee seem to run into the ground with less grace than the Hindenberg

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>The Invisible Man is a damn great boo
I had to read this for high school. I did not find it to be good in any way. That you think otherwise is suggestive.

>I can't refute what you say but wojack memes are just as good a rebuttal, r-r-right?

I read the entirety of Swing Time.

It starts out as a readable and interesting account of two girls growing up in housing projects in a changing London. However, the bulk of the book is an unfocused, inconsistent mess on the narrators time working for a white pop star who founds a girls village in Africa.

It devolved into one pithy "damn...made me think" tier moment after another.

>"Wow, the black girl who grew up in the first-world is totally out of place amongst village Africans! But her entire identity was around being black, where to now???"

Previously interesting characters morph into one-dimensional archetypes or avatars for a certain emotion. Entire chapters were spent developing the pop star as a potentially complex character, for her to suddenly be a vapid, out-of-touch, white saviour for the last quarter of the book.

A lot of the writing centres around smug, shallow self-reflection that falls flat on it's face, and seems to just show how racist, sexist, or otherwise ignorant things are in hindsight.

Utter tedium.

founds a girls school in a village in Africa**

triple dubz?
holy shet shet shet shet shet

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Fix your eyboard, cuc

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I've never read a word she's written. I have no idea if she has any merit as an author or not. But your claim that what you wrote isn't racist is laughable

Are we mad because she's black?

Best black/part-black authors:
>Matumbe Obongo
>Atawa Kinebibi
>Matumbe Smith
>Pookie
>De'Anton Ajundeh
>Gerald Ubaboomba

POWER GAP

zs

probably you were too dumb to grasp it, which says more about you than the fairly straightforward but nevertheless excellent book

If you're unclear on this you're too far gone.

Oh. Right.

No, she’s shit. Sylvia Plath for a generation of illiterates, the genre fiction of poetry. Milk and Honey is nothing but shitty platitudes and a universal(yet shallow) narrative expanded to hundreds of times the necessary length. She has nothing new or insightful to say which hasn’t been said better already. The only actual talent I can find is a capacity to make it big on Instagram.

Veeky Forums did it better docs.google.com/document/d/1xryu0eX2TcLTafLcWo25wdNaUQ2zY_BMSGvEDvLZ4Ks/mobilebasic

yeah
and she's kind of cute
and she fucked bandana suicide boy probably

name a single black author in the past 40 years who's written anything that revolve around their experience as a black person. American Blacks are the most narcissistic, self centered group on the planet, literally everything has to revolve around them

that doesn't revolve around*

Sometimes I wonder if these threads aren't some kind of reverse shilling to propagate the name of this nobody. I mean, they aren't exactly subtle.

>literally everything has to revolve around black people
>for 300 years in America black people have been denigrated and debased by white people while they sold an image of themselves to the world depicting them as heroic and superior despite having been catalysts in some of the greatest atrocities to man in history

>eurocoentric ideals and imagery has dominated Western culture for centuries and every non-white culture is extremely aware of this

>literally sent millions of humans into death camps because whites were the supreme race and deserved to rule the Earth

>American Blacks are the most narcissistic, self centered group on the planet, literally everything has to revolve around them

The absolute state of white delusion.

WE

Some try but run into issues for not "writing about blackness"

bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/11/24/black-authors-write-white-trap/LZyLHdBMdFXRosIkRIsCnI/story.html

WUZ

My point being that your perception of black authors only writing one type of book might not be because that's all black people want to write about, but because all that the publishing houses want from them. They want easily marketable NPR bait

Yes goyim

>inb4 buzzword vitriol and statistics with black crime rates or some chart showing blacks with low IQs

>belonging to a race that has perpetuated greater acts of inhumanity to man than any other and attempting to justify it rather than taking responsibility and working with others to help repair the damage

>resenting black people despite the fact that even black nationalist writers have expressed compassion for white people even amidst the onslaught of injustices whites have committed to them and other humans

>being caught up in the delusional ideologies of people that do not have humanity's best interest in mind rather than communicating with or attempting to become educated on the experiences and ideas of the targets of this ideology

i really want to see how you defend all of this

>history begins with America

I think you forgot a couple of 0s there. 40 years? Try 4,000.

CALL MY WAIFU SHIT AGAIN
SEE WHAT HAPPENS

>the actual experiences and stories told by oppressed people that have been documented throughout history are not representative of any true baleful reality but are actually just lies spread to serve the jewish agenda

how do you think this way?

i'm literally the dumbest and least talented person that i know so that's not much of an accomplishment tbqh

>taking responsibility and working with others to help repair the damage
>basically comes down to give gibs
There's nothing to defend here really...people are responsible for themselves. Of course the left can't fucking stand that idea, can they?

>istatistics with black crime rates or some chart showing blacks with low IQs
>facts are the enemy

>thinking that i implied history begins with America

do you have an actual argument against what I said or do you want to evade it because youre "superior"

Mission accomplished, defend it yourself

>white teeth
>The book won multiple honours, including the 2000 James Tait Black Memorial Prize for fiction, the 2000 Whitbread Book Award in category best first novel,[2] the Guardian First Book Award, the Commonwealth Writers First Book Prize, and the Betty Trask Award. Time magazine included the novel in its TIME 100 Best English-language Novels from 1923 to 2005.

>on beauty
>The novel was shortlisted for the 2005 Man Booker Prize on 8 September 2005. Smith won the Anisfield-Wolf Book Award [2] for fiction and Orange Prize for Fiction in June 2006

>this is a nobody according to some mouthbreather on a cartoon porn board

>implying I said that facts are the enemy
>implying that i denied the necessity of black people taking responsibility for destructive aspects of the black community

I'd hope so because I sure am fuckin stupid

>belonging to a race that has perpetuated greater acts of inhumanity to man than any other
Im not even going to give you a proper answer because you have no substancial knowledge on anthropology or history other than facebook-tier mass media política. Instead I recommend you watch the Yale anthropology lectures availiable on YouTube, and read at least one of the African history books by UNESCO, as well as some world history and Culture of Critique by K Macdonald

Yep definitely a shill

politics*

Of course people are responsible for themselves. That doesn't mean it's inappropriate to point out a huge catalyst in what made the situation so shitty in the first place. Addressing the fact that black people help to perpetuate their own denigration doesn't mean you have to exonerate its foremost cause.

>some turds float

I'm retarded. Here's how that actually means I'm smart:

You've clearly oriented yourself against distinguishing between groups of different people. The facts are counter to this.

>copping out from making an actual argument with "im 2 superior 4 u"

Ok

The argument is quite simple, other groups have experienced the same or worse, but have developed culture that isn't focused on celebrating their victimhood. Where's the delusion here as you call it?

Nietzschegirl.jpg

What has indicated to you that I'm against distinguishing between different groups of people? I'm against hypocrisy and delusion.

Oppression Is a subjective term that can have Its meaning defined by an agenda. The meaning of good, evil, ethical and unethical are cultural conventions. When you say someone Is oppressed you are automatically assuming a specific world view. For example: in Today's society, gays are seen as historically oppressed, But the gay identity has only existed for a couple of decades in western society.

>CofC
Good bait

>What has indicated to you that I'm against distinguishing between different groups of people?
Your constant calls to a common humanity.

Are you serious? You think black culture is quantified solely as a celebration of victimhood? Do you know any black people, have you asked them about their perspective on what black culture is? Are you trying to imply there's something wrong with a culture of oppressed people addressing the malignancy of their oppressor and feeling invigorated by their own capacity to prevail through adversity? Irish nationalism was tremendously increased under British rule. Are you saying it's wrong for them to have written literature addressing the necessity of them revolting and sticking together too? Or are you going to admit that you just don't like black people?

Interesting perspective

>if you read the same race baiting ideologues that I read, you would agree with me
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Kmac has no discernible talent

You can't discuss about a topic if both people don't have the same knowledge on it. The things I recommend are a sincere attempt to give you a different worldview from the common ideology promoted by most people. If you actually give it a try, then you can get my perspective. Unfortunately most people are too emotionally tied to their ideologies to dare question it.

I feel like you made up 2/3rds of those rewards. And really, Time Magazine is proof of greatness? 99.9% of modern authors/books are worth nothing, what you describe encompasses that worthless modernity.

I agree with what you're saying but I think you're neglecting the fact that many of these experiences are detailing great atrocities whether you wish to label them as oppression or not.

Calling for a common humanity is not an inherent erasure of race. I would like to eradicate racist attitudes but why should we get rid of the cultures surrounding races and ethnicities in order to have that?

Does it bother you that kevin mcdick has been laughed out of all intelligentsia? Or do you use this as evidence of some Jewish-marxist new world order?
>everyone is brainwashed but me and the 3 people I agree with

Trust me I have no desire to disregard your sources I am always open to receiving new knowledge but that doesn't mean you are avoiding the argument condescendingly. If you know the history so well then you should be able to counter my claim in two sentences if that's your intention.

Ok. That is exactly why I didn't want to give an actual answer: most people are more worried about being "moral" and adequating with the current notions of "justice" than questioning their own beliefs. Most people are afraid that the truth is actually different from their idealized world and ideology on wich they base their identity

Hmmm, I wonder if this applies to fans of CoC?

she's a cutie. would fuck

An inherently solipsistic perspective. You think the truth has an objective location and you are conveniently standing on it. Do you enjoy the novels of ayn bland?

>Calling for a common humanity is not an inherent erasure of race. I would like to eradicate racist attitudes but why should we get rid of the cultures surrounding races and ethnicities in order to have that?
How can there be a common humanity if we are unalike, not in common? Why should racist attitude be gotten rid of if they factual basis? You're an ideologue.
>discriminate, verb
>to understand or point out the difference in

Yes, of course it does. I'm well educated in socialism as well as feminist theory. Have read Beauvoir, Bakunin, Proudhon and Marx. Just happen to currently disagree with the ideologies concerning race and gender identity promoted by the media (despite fully comprehending their premises), as well as having a deterministic view of society and human nature.

*aren't

Are you unable to grasp the concept of recognizing differences and not feeling acrimoniously towards one another? Do you enjoy feeling bitter towards other races? Do you think people are better off holding fear, hatred, and resentment towards others just because we are all flawed? What benefit is that to you?

The issue is that you equate recognizing racial differences with racism. There is nothing wrong with understanding and pointing out the difference in something. There is something wrong with maintaining bitter attitudes towards them because of it. Do you think there isn't? Why?

>Are you serious? You think black culture is quantified solely as a celebration of victimhood?
>Or are you going to admit that you just don't like black people?

women could be great writers, but they usually hang themselves up on feminist work rather than bigger things like existentialism or some other shit. they need to make a point that their gender is wrongfully understood, which isnt enough for modern work

A bitter attitude? What does that even mean? You yourself said you hate hypocrisy. Why should unequals be treated equally? I will give an example. All statistics prove blacks are more prone to violence and criminality. At the same time something like stop & frisk in New York (which massively reduced crime rates) is demonized and portrayed as prejudiced because it predominantly targets blacks. It's wrong to focus on the group that commits the most crime. Read that again. Leftist ideology has divorced itself from reality.

>You read one such author, you've read them all.

I mean, is he wrong though?

>she's a cutie. would fuck
cdc.gov/std/herpes/herpes-nhanes-2010.htm

>skipping over an entire argument and using fragments of it to give the impression of irony rather than refuting the actual argument

Do you actually have anything of substance to say or do you just result to memes as a cop-out to appear superior?

you literally can't make this shit up

Blacks celebrating victimhood is more of a problem caused by Americans than anything

>gay identity has only existed for a couple of decades
>20 years
Who is Harvey Milk. Who is Allen Ginsberg.
Who is Plato. Who were the Spartans....
>good, evil, ethical, unethical all cultural conventions and subjective
Your postmodernism is showing.
I'll grant the importance of context, but to claim it's all subjective and forfeit the search for some objective truths is postmodern to the core, and it's odd you make that claim considering most of your line of thought tend to lambast postmodernism.

And you still didn't answer the question as to how you link certain social causes to serving a Jewish agenda. What jewish agenda? And what would be in it for jewish people to mastermind such causes?

There are so many loose knots in that conspiratorial thread that it's baffling how convinced some are of it.

>Leftist ideology has divorced itself from reality
>The different tendencies of each race deems them unequal

Which was more detrimental to innocent people the slave-trade, holocaust, or black crime in America?

Or would you like to claim that black history has more acts of inhumanity than whites?

Am I supposed to see white people as unequal because of their prominent history of genocide?

It is beyond me how black writers who lived throughout some of the most horrific epochs of racism in America and still expressed compassion towards white people yet white people cannot have empathy towards a destructive group of people whose malignancy they helped to incite. Or would you like to imply that White Americans have nothing at all to do with the Black American condition?

>Who were the Spartans
People who lived under a different social structure, with different sexual dynamics, and were not "gay". The practice of homossexual sex or even homoaffective relationships date back to prehistory. The construction of a personal identity based around your attraction to the opposite sex is a contemporary fact.

What makes you see "white people" and "black people" as unified races or ethnicities? Why do you think especially "white" people have a story of genocide? Are you dumb?

First off you suggest individual blacks "express compassion" to whites while whites in their entirety don't to blacks. The fact of the matter is, statistically speaking, and even percentage wise, without any fucking doubt in any reasonable person's mind, white people are more accepting of blacks than the reverse.

I'm not even going to go into the fact that the very civility you attribute to these individual blacks was literally conceived of and conferred unto them by the traditions of whites but that's also something to consider.

Ultimately however everyone is responsible only for themselves and their family. You think it's reasonable to invoke some blame onto American whites for the "black American condition" but whose fault is it they were susceptible to those whites in the first place? And whose fault is it for that? And so forth? The undeveloped and the unintelligent get eaten or taken advantage of, the winners of nature owe nothing to the losers, least of all to endure their whining.

>doesn't actually respond to the post
>continues muh victimization tautology
lol

and in case you didn't know, it was other Africans that enslaved and sold Africans for the slave trade. If you had any knowledge of history you'd know that non whites are the most violent and criminal perpetrators throughout history, I am sure it's nice to point at the holocaust as an example, but that's an isolated and extreme incident, the everyday reality of every black society over time is undoubtedly far far far worse.

Did you know that the majority of hate crimes in America are falsified? Look it up. I'm reminded of that fact whenever people discuss Invisible Man.
>book almost immediately starts off with the evil whiteman forcing 2 black boys who didn't do nuffin to fight each other for a college scholarship
Yeah, that isn't race bait at all, this book is nothing like those other books by african-americans that glorify victimhood, nope, not one bit.