What is the greatest army to have ever existed in the history of humanity?

What is the greatest army to have ever existed in the history of humanity?

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American military in ww2.

The U.S. army.

"Greatest" relative to others?

Mongols

Can we talk about greatest navies too?

The combined Armed Forces of the United States of Americaâ„¢.

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These.

>the largest air force on earth is the USAF
>the second largest air force on earth is the USN

>the largest navy on earth is the USN
>the second largest navy on earth is the US Coast Guard
how can other "countries" even compete?

There's more of those charts for the other branches such as the USMC, but I don't have them.

Its beautiful, right?

This. Aside from their own steppe warfare, they drew on the abilities of conquered peoples across Eurasia so that they drew on the military strength of most of Asia. They took Persian counterweight trebuchets and used them in China, where they'd never been seen before, while using Chinese gunpowder and rockets in the Middle East. For a time they were the most technologically advanced military on Earth.

Also this For a brief period, they had atomic bombs and nobody else did. You can't beat that.

Well the Red Army during WW2 is the largest army in history, by manpower.

the soviet union in the early 80s probably had the most destructive power available

Ask China.

They are the second largest navy and second largest air force. Way bigger than the US coast guard, and and way way more airplanes than naval aviation.

In absolute or relative terms? In absolute, the US military, in relative, maybe the mongols or alexander's greeks

>greatest army
>posts naval vessels

No. Our atomic edge was meaningless 1945-1949 because of lack of bombs.

Nukes didn't even become that important to our overall strategic military design until the late 60's.

The Soviets would have hammered us in Europe until the late 60's when we both gained enough powerful nukes to make it impractical.

proofs

I'm not sure that Unthinkable was entirely unfeasable, but giving the Soviets any real length of time to recover would have made it so.

The projections on unthinkable suggested it was literally unfeasible

>worried about China

this lmao

shitting out a ton of destroyers to keep your manufacturing base from shitting itself isn't exactly grounds for "great".

US military.
No ifs, ands, or buts.

Well, to be perfectly honest... what makes our military so great is not the number of ships, or planes... but the number of fanatical psycho christian retard killing-machines, who are always all too eager to join up.

that too.
we have the experience, the numbers, and the quality.

except theyre not Christian dude lmao

maybe culturally

The United States currently. I can't think of any time in history there was ever such a disproportionate superiority of one nation over all others. Mongols came close, but no cigar.

Fuck, what a curbstomp.

Compared with the other armies of their time it's the German army in WW1.

lol.
You may not believe me when I say this, but I don't really care.
My dad has a friend who works in China's defense ministry (they both were PhD students at BeiDa university in Beijing) as a Major-General and I heard him say at a reunion that China is at least 3 decades behind the US in terms of technology. He said that even if China steals America's latest tech, it'll be outdated by the time they've figured out how to reverse engineer it and apply it to their armaments

A high percentage of US military service men/women are devout christians.

I know... you think you have your own definition as to what makes someone a "christian", because you're obviously one.

>bigger than the coast guard
They outgun the smuggle hunters and dudes who keep us from drowning.

Impressive.

Meanwhile most of their navy is 100% incapable of blue water operation.

>air force
You realize a huge portion of their air force is gen 3 and 3.5 shit, right?

The Chinese air force is MASSIVELY outdated.
1/3rd of their fighters are j-7s. Fucking mig-21s.

This.

The only parts of the world with the educated populace, money, and advanced manufacturing base to compete are convinced war is over.

I can see it.

In that picture, the trail is probably just the fault of shitty fuel or air quality

No.
I can't really blame the PRC for that one though, they were relying on Cold War era Soviet engines.

It's the engines.

They claim they're a "placeholder" for the totally sweet engines that they definitely have the capacity to produce. Soon. Whenever they feel like it.

For real.

Where can I buy these as posters so when I go to Germany next year I can waggle my dick at everyone who visits my house without moving a finger?

Meanwhile they're probably scrambling to find more engines made back when Gorbachev was around because those awful russkie shits burn out so damn quickly.

If you ask the retarded christfag that hangs around Veeky Forums, China has fielded an army of 200'000'000

Obviously amerifats
They outspend the next like 8 countries combined in military

Nuclear weapons

>The United States currently. I can't think of any time in history there was ever such a disproportionate superiority of one nation over all others. Mongols came close, but no cigar.

At the peak of their power no military force on earth could threaten them. At best they could slow or divert Mongol aggression. Meanwhile in the age of nuclear weaponry Russia, the EU or even China could deal devestating damage to the US

Yeah, i could take that on, ezee pezee

The Mamluk Dynasty of Delhi stopped the mongels from going into Indian and even grew in the face of repeated invasions.

>the EU
>do devastating damage
>Russia
>do devastating damage
>China
>do devastating damage
haha
no

>experience
>hasn't fought in a major conflict for over 40 years

Here's your (you)

Say something else stupid, maybe someone will give you another

what are they gonna do, nuke us?

As opposed to the rest of the world, right?

No you ditz the point is that nobody is experienced

Any combat experience counts.
Considering the US has been embroiled in fuckfuck games in the middle east for the last two decades, its certainly got more experience than China.

Desert storm.

No, crushing your enemy doesn't make it minor.

Go ahead. Show us the war plan where china or russia don't lose horribly.


THEN explain how you think the EU Is a united military entity.

Then explain how it has ANY capacity to threaten the US.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War

That ended 25 years ago.

Short conflict against a vastly inferior enemy with no risk of defeat

Still combat experience.

>short
Yes
>vastly inferior enemy
Large army that was dug in and battle hardened.

>no risk of defeat
Soviets didn't fucking think so, and American casualty projections were through damn roof.

NOBODY expected such a decisive victory.

Reread the post
"at best they could slow or divert Mongol aggression"

The Sultanate or the Mamalukes had no power to push back to Asia and actually topple them or their key territories

Merica.. Cuz bombs n shit

Can anyone confirm/deny that if the US actually had to engage a nation with an actual airforce they'd just use tactical missile strikes as a crazy flak type defense?

As already stated the Indians stopped the Mongols (thanks Himalayas) and the Chinese also gave them a fight. As for the US, I'm only looking at conventional warfare seeing as nukes arent really present on the modern battlefield.

I dunno, they've made some real progress towards improving their overall military quality.

I see what you did there

The United States Army right now

The United States Army has never won a battle in a day, and that's sad because they're more technologically outfitted than their their victims.

Romans conquered entire civilizations.
Has America? No.

Come back when you win a war against something bigger than Grenada.

Let's talk about real militaries. Like the Swiss Guard.

>greatest army ever
>us army
>the same army that get blown the fuck out by vietnamese rice farmers with bamboo stick

fuckin hell

Has America won a single war by themselves in the last 100 years?

Clearly the Romans. They pretty much invented the concept of a professional army.

Soviets during ww2, they would have wiped the floor with the germans if stalin hadent done those retarded purges
Then they did wipe the floor with the germans once they got some victorys and experience under their belts

There is none, they are all small periods of superiority

Could the allies have won the most important war without them?

This talk of the US military has got me thinking of what the third world war could bring about.

Putting aside the possibility of nuclear weapon use, imagine the technological innovation of WW2 in the information era, imagine how many new advancements could be funded and produced throughout a war and their continuation after it ends. I mean, WW2 saw the modern innovations of aviation, armored warfare, medicine and surgery, and nuclear physics/weapons, all funded into the billions in less than a decade. If we don't all get vaporized by WMDs, what technological advancements could the post-WW3 world see?

Yes, granted they would have lost most of Western Europe

Honestly, the Soviets beat Germany and Japan entirely on their own. Not having America or the other Allies wouldn't have made a difference.

The strongest military that this world has seen in action is the Red Army.

United States armed forces, if they were to fully mobilize, would take it's place.

Honestly? Probably something along the lines of Fallout tech

Powersuits, massive increase in nuclear/fusion powered machinery, medical advances along the lines of growing back limbs or organs (we can already do this now, although on a tiny scale), and mechanical combat drones. It would also bring a MASSIVE social change which people don't really take into account often. Just look at how the WW2 generation and the baby boomers changed our social structure. An entire generation of young men (and now women) going through basic training would completely change America's social order.

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This is a myth, the USSR nearly lost the war despite it's huge manpower advantage, without 1/3 of the Nazi war effort being wasted fighting the Western Allies (and arguably without Hitler's interference) the outcome is by no means certain.

In the 50s we had the nuclear edge. we had bombs to use and the means to hit the soviets with them. the soviets had bombs but did not have the means to hit beyond Europe, Japan, and Alaska.

No, we lost to ourselves. We were pretty much winning the war by the doctrine they were using there, we we even got them to agree to peace by beating the fuck outta them with operation rolling thunder ii. When the north invaded again after we pulled out, the american public wanted nothing to do with it.

Currently?
US armed forces

Historically?
Roman Army. Conquered much of the civilized world at the time, and despite MANY failures and losses, still came out on top. Pretty much invented modern military organization and doctrine. Also extra points for practically every legionary being a construction worker who could build roads and forts while carrying his own shit and being in top shape.

>Soviets beat Japan
Are you kidding?

The best manlet who ever lived.

>The United States Army has never won a battle in a day
But that's wrong.

>thanks to our devotion the lord has blessed us with a fighting spirit capable and destroying all our enemies
God bless this country

Peace through superior firepower

We control Europe don't we
Don't even pretend like we don't

We actually have a ship called the USS America

Heavenly host.

Salty Fog-Breather confirmed.

>USS Constitution

Having a 200+ years old wooden three-mast in active commission is pretty cool.

85%+ of the third reich's forces, including virtually the entire elite SS corps, perished on the eastern front. don't be a revisionist, plz.

>Romans conquered entire civilizations.
>Has America?

Uh, yes, a bunch...

Now bring up the kill to death ratio of the Germans vs the Russians.

>FREEDOM class
>INDEPENDENCE class
I'm literally crying tears of patriotism right now.

I would say england for sheer power and longevity. Neigh unparalleled land and sea power. Then the romans...big on land power and the navy was no push over either. For sheer land power...the mongols.

Schutzstaffel = greatest paramilitary organization ever?