Why can't we simply use the harshest punishment possible for every crime to eliminate criminality?

Why can't we simply use the harshest punishment possible for every crime to eliminate criminality?

There would be absolutely no criminality if EVERYTHING would be punishable by death. (stealing, violence, littering, being a dick etc)

It would be so normal for people to avoid those negative things that it would become automatic.

because the administration of justice is a human system and is therefore prone to human error.

the second you kill a kid for shoplifting and it then turns out he didn't do it, you'd have riots.

besides, justice has to be proportional to the nature of the crime. some crimes are worse than others.

>being a dick
>punishable by death

The concepts of fairness, justice, and mercy are more important to most people than a land with absolutely 0 criminality and the road along which you propose leads to tyranny and people don't like that either.

killing an innocent would be punished by death

the innocent would still be dead and it would still be the system's fault because you cant expect the justice system to be right all the time

crime is a social construction rather than some cosmic force of evil

>living under constant fear of being killed by accidentally breaking some obscure, inane law while your friends are constantly killed off for forgetting to notify the bank about their change of address or whatever


Sounds like an utopia

darwinism

>puberty

>survival of the fittest
The people who bow to authority or know people in high places get to reproduce?

Sounds like a dystopia

yeah nah m8 that's not how darwinism works

If you are stupid enough to commit crimes after you are perfectly aware of the consequences you deserve death. Stupid people shouldn't reproduce.

What legal code are you working with in your scenario?

Do you know how many people are ignorant of the law? Will everyone leave grade school a paralegal to ensure they don't fuck up?

Have you memorized every law and every legal precedent regarding that law in your country?

No, it sounds like you just want to murder a whole bunch of people. Shit, you ok man?

the good of the many outweighs the good of the few

You are the few in this scenario

>Stupid people shouldn't reproduce.
Actually we might need stupid people because smart people are less likely to have children. The """""goal""""" of evolution is to survive, not to make a race of super geniuses/warriors/QTs/etc.

Ok, sure. Now tell me what your legal code will look like. Ultra simplified and a ton of shit legal or something that requires study and consideration of local law?

Are you adding a surveillance state on top of this, or relying on the people that manage to get caught to discourage others?

>go one freedomspeed unit over the speed limit
>get death sentence


Congratulations, OP, this is, without a doubt, the dumbest thread I have seen on Veeky Forums since Mootwo made it.

>super geniuses/warriors/QTs/etc
>institute the orgy porgy, make every pregnancy a twin pregrenancy, and move the kids into state care immediately

A measure that ends with the last person on earth executing themselves for being incapable of fulfilling the legal requirements of an execution.

That is setting a trap for the people. Why would you seek to trap the people?

Throw out the current system of laws and replace it with a very short list. Say 10 or so things you're not allowed to do.

People would abuse that power and frame whoever they didn't like in order to have them killed or maimed. They have in the past.

>EVERYTHING would be punishable by death
That's a bit much, isn't it?

We should just bring back corporal punishment it's better than endlessly executing people for minor crimes.

Are you OP?
Give us the list. Give us Annurabi's Code.

there are reasons the thing that was exactly like you describe evolved into what we have now.

most of those reasons are people going "holy shit this system leads to retarded situations all the time"

that philosophy of harsh punishments for even minor offences is known as legalism. it was first implemented in Qin china but has seen use in other places aswell. The best examples would probably be in the British navy especially during the napoleonic era. The punishments were ridiculously harsh for trivial offences and in the small, enclosed, highly disciplined environment of a ship it was a reasonably effective system. However when a similar approach was implented on land; with long prison terms, transportation or even hanging as punishments for minor infractions crime remained rampant in cities like London or Birmingham. Personally i theorize that the open nature of these systems, larger populations and the presence of countercultural subsections is responsible for the breakdown in the larger system. For those of you unfamiliar the Qin dynasty only lasted 2 generations

Then you might as well genocide people because when there's humans, there's crime.

No humans, no crime. Simple as that.

It escalates the situation. If you know you are going to die for stealing a loaf of bread, you are going to kill everyone who saw you do it. Sadly it does more harm than good OP.

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So stupid.

Jesus, OP, how stupid are you really?

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You wouldn't actually be selecting for the people who commit who don't commit crimes. You'd be selecting for people who don't get caught committing crimes. You'd get innocents and smarter/luckier criminals, not just innocents.

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Because too many dumb corrupt fuckers would be murdering people for stupid shit they made up.

Except that if literally any crime, no matter how small, would be punishable by death, the many would quickly become the few.

>There would be absolutely no criminality if EVERYTHING would be punishable by death.
t. absolute retard

Good luck ever finding anyone willing to judge and carry out the sentences. They'd be lynched the moment they stepped out of the courtroom.

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>Why can't we simply use the harshest punishment possible for every crime to eliminate criminality?
Look at history and tell me how fucking well that worked

Millions would be dead for minor traffic violations and errors in filing taxes every year.

There's been a death penalty for murder for centuries and yet people didn't stop murdering. What gives? You can't just legislate your ideas into reality.

>being put to death for being 'in contempt of the court' because put in the jury-duty summons form in the mailbox after the postman had already passed by

Fuck your shit system, idiot born of idiots.

>5 mph over the speed limit
>officer just forces them on the ground and executes them
Good plan, OP.