Has user read this novel? I am a few chapters in, they jjsy hacked the bank and are researching Armitage. Great book...

snowcrash has a main character literally called hiro protagonist who is a half black half asian elite hacker who practices with his katana every day.

at least the delivery girl character was kinda cool

>why hasnt this been made yet into a movie??!!
uuuh, the Matrix?

For example, suppose we say Case is a young Keanu Reeves. I can imagine that.

But equally well I can imagine him Ryan Gosling or Christian Bale or Robert Downey Jr.

Same with Molly. Just has to be sexy and hard-edged, which they can all do these days.

Thats kinda gay, i pickedneuromancer as my next read after finishing Do androids Dream of... because it was a first-of-its-kind. I dont like cheap knock offs.

How about steven segal as case? Im inly a fee chapters in but he seems like.he could do it, pleaee god just not keanu reeves that would make it too corny

Visually it would be Blade Runner meets Matrix.

I read it a few years ago and remember liking it, but can't say much about it. The writing style is very frenetic so I think a lot of stuff went over my head. Which I get, because it's the cyberage and all that.

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I didnt get it for the first 2 chapters butim getting more used to it now. I think that comes straight from noir

I actually don't think it would make a very good film.
If you've seen Johnny Mnemonic you'll know what I mean.
Gibson is good on the flashy cyberpunk atmosphere, but characters we care about... meh.

snow crash is actually kind of a fun book im just ragging on it, it was a simpler time before anyone knew what a weeaboo was and being a bit of a japanophile was probably still the in thing then.

They could do some things just *great* now with CGI though. The images that Peter Riviera conjures up, for example.

Lol how the mighty have fallen...

If anyones curious im reading it here. Project.cyberpunk.ru/lib/neuromancer

i think i actually read somewhere that neuromancer came out almost at the same time as blade runner and gibson was worried everyone was gonna think he ripped it off, but they were both influenced by similar sources

Dont spoil that part, theyre in the dark allry about to approach him! "Quiet' he said too loudly" made me laugh

Op here , can you check out my goidreads and reccomend stuff for next? I prefer first of their kinds, literature tier(see sir gawaine) and adult (not ya) Idk if goodreads is too normie tier for this board, if it is i apologize.
Https://goodreads.com/review/list/46726654

Thx anons, guess im not user anymore

It hasn't been made into a movie because the plot and the characters follow a very generic/predictable formula. I think that Neuromancer's strengths lie on the world building, the technology it invents (cyberspace/stimsim/etc), and the general aesthetic. But the plot structure, specially the ending, is pretty meh. Behind all the hazy cyberpunk language (which is excellent), the story is just a typical action detective thriller.

Also, how would a movie even try to represent cyberspace? Its such a vague and ethereal concept, the moment you represent it through real images it looses all of its magic. Something like the time/space travel in Space Odyssey might work, but I think it would be too uninteresting and experimental for today's movies.

Are you saying hollywood woulnd't want to make an action adventure detective movie? they make about 25 every year! Yes the setting is it's strength, i love a good setting, screw characters!!

As for cyberspace, they could make it be ethereal and ambiguous without losing the magic. I think a good director definitely could pull it off with ease.

mad respect yo

Yeah but we already have plenty of cyberpunk movies, like BR or The Matrix (given how much of a niche they are). Wouldn't make sense to make another one of those but with a shittier plot and characters.

Yes. The problem is that Neuromancer's great strength is all the little touches and tropes of dystopian cyberpunk world-building - and they have all been copied endlessly ever since. So if it was filmed faithfully it would seem generic and derivative.
Not fair, but that's the way it goes.

got it, I mean I say we ditch the next 10 romcoms and police shooter movies and replace it with a neuromancer movie.. but that's just me.

I think I disagree, the story is exceptional. I chose to read the book because it original enough to stand out among the horde of cyberpunk novels. Good stories shine through.

The story is fine, but it doesn't have the sort of emotional payout that will give you a satisfying film.
At least not easily. Maybe a good production team could get it right. But the whole tone of the book is really of irrevocable loss. None of the characters has any future, emotionally. They're all lost souls.
To do it right you would have to be prepared to make something almost like Solaris, in my opinion. People might not get what they were expecting.

I am still in part 1, they are ont heir way to kill rivera for the first time (idk if they suceed or fail or whatnot) so I'll have to finish the book before getting into that. but look at bladerunner, or ghost in the shell, or any other dystopian novel where the characers are all hopeless and futile. Right? I see your point but I think it could be done. Unfortunately a modern american audience can't appreciate good art, it has to fit into a certain mold. I blame the government not funding good art programs and not educating people on true creativity and art and just giving us shit. If the govt promoted good art in schools people would be infuriated with the garbage that's on our radios and in our theatres.

>That cramped elevator scene with lady 3Jane
>She looks up at case while grinding him
>mfw

Just finished the second book in the series. The endings always leave me leaving..forlorn? Things get resolved, but in such an alien manner.

Cannot get enough of Gibson's style. Get burning Chrome, user. Compilation of his short stories.

Well, the book of Blade Runner ("Do Androids Dream...") is much bleaker than the movie.
The way Dick wrote it, Rachel (the android) basically just hates humans and wants to hurt Deckard. Also the whole background of the book is that natural creatures can't live any more so people have to make do with electronic fakes. It's very despairing.

The movie basically ends up as boy-meets-girl. (Even if it's boy-meets-replicant, haha)

it will end up like the new total recall with some assbutt as the star, better to never see it ruined maybe

doesn't need a movie.

just watch Escape From New York,
then Blade Runner

Now turning Count Zero or Mona Lisa Overdrive, or damn near any of his later books or short stories. Mah Nigga, that's where it's at

>I blame the government not funding good art programs

State funded movies and art are always a terrible idea, its not like people are gonna watch something they don't want to watch.

I agree, the lack of character development in Neuromancer really adds to the lack of humanity and soul this dystopian future creates in its users. Great for the book, terrible for a movie.

As long as it avoid the Johnny mnemonic catastrophe

I like the ending on BR because the replicant spares his life, and he is an android, I wish in the book that he ended up being an android which is the opposite of the movie where he IS android but it's not revealed definitively until the end.

Unless you cost actors who lend themselves to that kinda stuff, I said Steven Seagall as Case lol.

I disagree, if the govt funded more parks, libraries, museums, then these damn kids these days would have museums to go to an be exposed to classical art masterpieces at a younger age (ie when the frontal lobe is growing its most rapidly) and become hooked on it and not know how to live w.o it!

Trust me i'm agains the welfare state and gimmedats, but the place where socialism could have a benifit to society is funding high society cultural aspects like I mentioned above, opera, ballet, painting, poetry, literature, Worship authors and composers not niggers and jews.

>Jersey Barier
Who?

jerset battery, when case mispronounces the guys name from Istanbul

sorry, Jersey Bastion* I am an idiot

State funded art ends up being beholden to the state, just like contemporary art is beholden to a small group of investors and aesthetic technicians/fetishists whose amalgamated sensibilities have been poisoning art for several decades like a filling with mercury in it.

What you want is a vital and vigorous education system that doesn't turn out people with weird aesthetic fetishes, milquetoast liberal arts people, and technicians. Normal people with developed minds who will seek out at least occasional stimulation of a higher form.

This. Sprawl trilogy and Burning Chrome are great

Yes I want that. ONe way to help facilitate that after we get BASED public schooling is to have BASED museums, libraries, and sciences. One example of this happening is certain cities havnig building codes where the architecture has to conform to some classical style. In my city (Providence) when the mall was built the permit said that they had to maintain the classical aesthetic of the city, not just have a big cement box in the middle of downtown. Providence has a lot of greek revival and stuff, so the mall had to somewhat retain this style.

I'm obviously speaking idealistcly, if I thought the GOVT could do anything right I'd be for public health care, one reason I'm against it is because the DMV sucks, so if they can't run the DMV smoothly the last thing i want is them running health care. However, in an ideal world, the city planners and govt people would be altruistic and fund nice museums libraries parks ect that actually benefit society.

Aaaah, Terzibashjian! Why didn't you say so?

This.
The usage of language makes the world scenery and all the things involved in it seem somewhat organic, everything takes the form of a circulating entity which makes it difficult to distinguish the parts from the totality. everything is more than one but less than many.
The narrative structure is pretty unoriginal and doesn't really add much to the novel.