About two years ago I read this book

Go to bed Thijs, it a quarter past eleven.
And stop talking about politics all the fucking time, you're a cool bloke but you're gonna lose friends with your autistic shit. If its such a big deal to you walk the talk.
Also, read non-political poetry

People like you are part of the problem. Just like the labourer is content with working 40 hours a week so he can fill his house with pointless things, you feel happy about your life because you get to walk around with the smug air of superiority around you. Trust me, nobody gives a fuck about what you think.

Understanding Power. (Also his stuff on linguistics is great, but off topic obviously.)

>how can live now?
well talking to other people about this sort of thing can go a long way toward feeling less alienated.
also, you seem to be in an initial "shock" stage, but i can tell you it does get easier to adjust with time.
>alienation
ultimately, though, i think it depends on how far down the rabbit hole you want to go. it seems you've already uncovered many of the illusions that used to inform your day to day life, so that you can no longer take for granted the truth of certain assumptions about the world (e.g. "the government is responsible for protecting the people", "people who control massive wealth and massive armies hold the same basic moralistic beliefs as myself and those around me").
but there may be other, more hidden, assumptions concerning your very own nature that you have yet to uncover.
there's no reason to go "all the way" if you're not so inclined. the fewer illusions you are be burdened by, the more difficult it may become to feel at ease in contemporary western society.

spending some time in a place where you don't speak the language can also do wonders for your sanity.

>can't talk to anyone
you may already do this, but i have found it helpful to write out my thoughts as honestly as possible, going so far as to force myself to write down things that i would be too ashamed to tell anyone.

Honestly don't know what you're talking about.

>put on a fake smile and join in their silly games
>How can I live in this world now?
you answered your own question

Nobodys deriding the book you dink its the fact that there are people acting like hysterical 14 yr old girls and writing in reddit format.
read Edward bernays, Douglas Valentine, E. Michael Jones, Legacy of Ashes, Deep State by mike lofgren if you want recs but stop acting like a retard

Thanks for the response and suggestion.

I don't think I'm in first shock phase, I'm in a more retrospective state, thinking about how this has affected my life.

And it's not just the political and corporate world, I'm seeing the same patterns in many social structures.

Reading Schopenhauer's stuff on love ("it's just chemicals in your brain dude") has made me look at relationships with even bleaker view.

It's hard to enjoy anything now. I could see myself becoming an alcoholic since that's the only thing that brings me any joy.

I appreciate the recommendations. I don't know what reddit format is, I tried to look it up but all it brings up is formatting stuff. Really don't know what you're talking about with regards to 14 year olds, maybe stop talking to them.

>muh tough love
not OP but i love you too user
do you honestly know that many people who are willing to look beneath the surface that meeting another such person warrants such casual jerkish behaviour? no need to be pretentious, there's enough negativity around.

The rabbit hole gets even worse when you realise almost everything you hear about the Soviet Union is incorrect. You have to check each individual claim made by western historians, since all of them base their work off of hysterical anti-communist sources. I've assembled a reading list that would probably take me several years just to penetrate the competing narratives and find some semblance of historical "truth". It's pretty depressing.

but im part of the problem these people are whining about so I get a little offended when I hear people talking about and complaining about the handiwork that supplies me my bread and butter, what are you gonna do about it?

Regardless of manipulation, people nevertheless need their leisure time and their culture. Don’t deride them for it. It’s a release valve, a necessary one. To be honest I’m not sure if withdrawing from the world is a necessary response. One can participate in a culture (however lightly, however skeptically) and be aware of its cruder patches.
As Schiller said, “Live with your century, but do not be it’s creature.”

At some point, you just have to take your position in stride.

Acknowledge all the shortcomings and limitations that come along with being human, and the historical identity you've been given at this period of time.

After that just try to be real with people. The ones who don't give you the time of day afterward probably aren't worth your time anyway. The ones who stick around might even enjoy your company and help ground you a bit when you're feeling to existential to function.

OP I am going to sleep now. I will read the rest of the posts tomorrow.

KEK

>becoming alcoholic
well, that is one of the standard outcomes (along with other drug addictions) for people in your position. and i can't deny having spent a lot of my own time and energy on such a path.
but if i can say anything about this, it would be to convey my feeling that the more meaningless the superficial appearances of people and things become, the greater my appreciation for those hidden truths that determines those appearances, and the greater my desire to understand the hidden truth of my own nature.
>hard to enjoy anything
you are clearly someone for whom it was important to understand the truth of the world around them. and having understood much in this regard, maybe it's nearly inevitable to resort to drinking and other such pasttimes so as to deal better. but you're not innocent anymore, and if you abandon ship at this point, i humbly. respectfully think you are merely leaving your work unfinished. for example, the fact that you are bothered by the things you have learned about the world and human relations, suggests that there are many things for you to still learn about why you feel the way you do about things. i think the better you understand yourself, the less disturbed you might be by the wholly unsympathetic appearance of the rest of the world.
i wish i could say something really concrete to convey my feeling that you're on a fucking magical journey that is worth all the shittyness you have and will continue to encounter along the way. it's a privilege to have the opportunity to ramble at you user.

can you picture yourself in a state where you would be happy. where is it?

>the mass media, propaganda, the financial crises, state corruption, indoctrination in universities, wars.

do you have an essentials reading list?

/r/economics FAQ on financial crisis for a neutral perspective

>neutral perspective
>book recommendations. Milton Friedman.

that was the original book putting fakenews on blast, trumpists should get over the fact that chompsky wrote it and give it a read

If you only read books because "man, today people suck, I wanna go back when being a conceited shut in was something everyone loved" then please stop posting here. You have nothing to contribute.

AMUSING OURSELVES TO DEATH

Read the Kybalion

Well yeah he's probably the third most important economist in history.

>I am deep down the rabbit hole
you've pigeonholed yourself within le skeptic community
just what globocorp wants--who do you think prints your books?

the solution to all of this is to make consumerism unattractive. The exact moment that having more consumer goods ceases to make somebody more fuckable is the exact moment that the system implodes on itself like a supernova

>feels the need to respond with an angry, berating monologue to two posters
>"Trust me, nobody gives a fuck about what you think."

doesn't means he wasn't a hack

Read Culture of Critique

its /pol/ and /leftypol/'s fault and /v/'s really

you faggots let normalfags in and your owner sold the place to a kikenip

>trumpists should get over the fact that chompsky wrote it
Nigga that's the first book I use to convert normies into the alt-right

Veeky Forums is slow enough, we can't afford to lose 99.8% of posters

Self-destruction is not the answer. Once you go down that path, they win. This user offers some good advice. Pursuing a higher truth as you dispel the illusions of the world is a noble purpose. Rene Guenon's Crisis of the Modern World, and The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times explains the metaphysics which underlie all the existing power structures that are meant to enfeeble, stupefy, and corrupt humanity. I also recommend reading Julius Evola's Ride the Tiger, where he explains how one can live in an irredeemably fucked civilization without having to comprise his being. I am not saying these books will provide the answers you seek, but they will point you in the right direction.
>The Kybalion

yeah, all the notoriety on the news in the last 2 years was probably the worst thing. newfags arent even ashamed anymore they dont lurk and they don't even understand when you insult them. no going back now though

Jean Baudrillard - Simulation and Simulacra

>Manufacturing Consent, Herman & Comsky
>Propaganda, Bernays
>Simulacra and Simulation, Baudrillard
>Industrial Society and It's Future, Kaczynski
>The Society of the Spectacle, Debord

Is there a subversion Veeky Forums reading chart?

was going to make one soon

I think you're not good-looking enough, that's all. Think of all those celebrities, semi-celebrities. Mini cult leaders, Charles Manson for fuck's sake. They all pulled it off. You're just unattractive, and this is the harsh truth. Unattractive and autistic, that's why you're reading books by Chomsky to begin with to be honest, and I am not even trying to be humorous or insult you, just telling the truth. The only thing you can do now is to make yourself conventionally attractive. Luckily for you, there are very few truly ugly people, most can be fixed and brought up to like 6 at least.

>bare essentials (toilet paper
nice meme you fucking subhuman
how can you consider yourself an intellectual, probably call someone else barbarian, think lowly of third world, second world citizens, and then unironically smear shit on your ass with fucking paper, then put on your underwear and pants like nothing fucking happened and let literal shit brew inbetween your cheeks for hours until next shower or bath. hours or maybe even tens of hours, because if you subhumans dont wash your ass after shitting you probably dont take showers at least once at least every 24 hours, who knows, maybe you only brush your teeth sporadically when you feel like it.

in short, wash your fucking ass, this alone will make you a higher being than reading james joyce or some other shit.

Wonderful.

You should listen to the Forum Borealis interviews on the black economy, on YT. I assume you've already read Propaganda and Gulag Archipelago.

I'll be honest, beyond the surface of political and material and moral and so forth simulation, Gnosticism and Hermeticism is part of the final, Quantum Red-pill.

I hope you've read this too

...

Why the 4 trial Platonic dialogues, the Ramayana, and the Tao Te Ching?

Because that’s the real red pill

Care to explain?

>Reading these barely related works of political philosophy will somehow make you more enlightened in some vague way

Prometheus Rissing, and Undoing Yourself have caught my eye for their techniques to deprogram myself from all the (((consumable media))) gobbledygook, but I have been sceptical in reading them since RAW and Christopher Hyatt are fans of Aleister Crowley and employ some of his teachings. After reading Bernays' Propaganda, and learning how saturated consumable media is in every dimension, I am reconsidering these works. Thoughts?

I was the same. At some point you need to make a decision about your way forward because you can't just keep reading this stuff and live this world view isolated. Do you want to become an activist, a writer, or where do you want to end up? Once you decide you can continue or forego the reading. But you have to decide or you're heading for a wall.

OP here for a bit before I go to work.

Great post, I especially like this point
>the more meaningless the superficial appearances of people and things become, the greater my appreciation for those hidden truths
This is something that a logotherapist might advise me to do... you can find meaning in any situation.

A world where others have their freedom back, although I don't know what I'd do then...

I'm well aware that the capitalist sells me the rope with which I will hang myself. If I spent all my money on anti-corporatism DVDs and stickers, then went back to slaving away, at that moment they will have won.

Consumerism is the most resilient force in the universe. When people realised it was bad, it found something to make them spend all their money on: minimalism. Your walls may be blank, but now you have to buy new shit every year because you've turned it into a competition of who can have the least items in their house. Oh and Apple products.

I'm aware of Jews but I don't think it's the problem. We can't blame people like Jews, CEOs and politicians. We need to look at the system in which we live.

...

There are literally people out there who act superior to others because their asshole is cleaner. That's right.

These people are either Muslims (known for their aggressive beliefs) and Indians (known for their lack of toilets and paper).

The argument that it's unhygienic is retarded. If you eat a good diet, stool should pass smoothly and all it takes is a little wipe just in case. Whether you scrub yourself and have an enema it doesn't matter, the rectum folds into itself and the butt cheeks shield it. A few hours later (not tens of hours) you shower. Simple.

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>Either washing your ass or wiping

This is mutually exclusive? I've always wiped and then washed my ass immediately. I've always thought you wipe to get rid of the bulk, so that dirt doesn't get on your hand when you wash it.

Does this make me a higher being than both of you?

no

Why not just use fucking wet wipes.

lmao retractable rectum mate are you a fucking horse?

why not just WASH your ass dumb cunts

Retard

triggered commie brainlet

*thinkingemoji*

>now you have to buy new shit every year because you've turned it into a competition of who can have the least items in their house
please elaborate. If I want as few things as possible I achieve that by NOT buying shit, not by buying new shit every year.

anyway, try to be creative and enjoy the creative process instead of focusing on the final product

The new York times has a great article on this. Its titled The Oppressive Gospel of Minimalism.

>responds to sincere poster
>offers up essay written by insincere consumero-fuckwad complaining about all the other insincere fuckwads around him
as an example, i've behaved like a minimalist my whole life before i even knew there was a word for it. not everything everyone does is ironic or done with the intention of being written about on the latest jew pork rhymes blogpost

What about Dostoevsky?

>soviet union
>dostoevsky
your mom ded?

The Denial Of Death by Ernest Becker

The USSR was after his time, retard.

Honest question: are you happier now than two years ago?

Incel pls

What the fuck is this lookism bullshit?
Why the fuck has lookism started to shill on Veeky Forums of all places?
What the fuck do lookism incels even get out of trying to spread their worldview?

I think that user was projecting. Don't worry about it.

Same, I work, read, drink and smoke, rinse and repeat. Although I feel nihilistic at times, I believe it to just pass, and I find my center again. I read and write what I see, I try to get a umbrella view of all thinks, akin to what they promote at liberalist college. Then I shave down to the core and it is only rewarding to me (and this is where my nihilism comes in). But then, as I mentioned previously, it passes and the consolidation of information helps me dig more into my own roots.

>There are many aspects of modern life that are horrifying
Were said aspects not horrifying in the previous centuries? Were there not other horrifying aspects we got rid of?

Working at tech startups is surreal, it's almost like being in a cult. The culture is toxic, as you say, but you do learn a lot about people and society by participating for a little while.

Good question

silicon valley is the end result of liberal accelerationism

yes and we replaced them with new kinds of horrors which are less obvious because instead of being poignant and traumatic like torture or disease they’re subtle and transparent like surveillance and skinner-box consumerism

Propaganda by Ellul.

>whining about "skinner box consumerism" on a skinner box website

kys my man

Where do you live that you can afford to live only working 16 hrs? Like rent wise.

good man

this is a feeb shill reply, try harder cattle nigger

yeah, you dumb whoreson retard

I'm not OP, but I am going through something similar as he is. Since I've realized the extent of the subversive media, I no longer watch tv, nor play any vidya. I have accepted the hopeless state of civilization with no possibility of it getting better, yet I am calm. I still believe there are transcendent truths in this world, and I take solace in knowing I can still save my own soul.

why are you uglies so triggered? you'd think on Veeky Forums of all places, people would actually see the truth

>I consume media very carefully. I read the news but only to analyse it, ensuring I check a variety of sources to avoid the Google bubble.
analyse for what purpose you douche?

high quality douche

nice wordplay haha i will choose to believe it was intented my man, thanks btw

nice wordplay haha i will choose to believe it was intended my man, thanks btw

Welcome to the desert of the real, OP