At every point in history there has been an intellectual capital of the world.
Obviously, in ancient times, this was Athens.
In the early 20th century, it was Vienna.
In the mid 20th century, it was Paris.
In the late 20th century, it was New York.
Where do you think the highest echelons of intellectual debates take place today?
Hudson Williams
BUDAPEST
Jayden Gray
For free? Unironically, Veeky Forums. For pay/paper? Universities.
Brayden Mitchell
The internet. There is now nowhere in the real world with a thriving intellectual current.
Josiah Hill
>Where do you think the highest echelons of intellectual debates take place today? Peterson threads
Ian Miller
Girls like these are my fetish
Charles Lewis
salo-forum.com
Tyler Allen
they're called dirty-foot heifers, user.
Evan Hill
Same here my man. I consider myself an educated man with high-brow hobbies, but there's nothing I like more than slamming drunk slags on a Friday night.
Hunter Anderson
>Implying I could ever score with a girl like this... >Implying I don't just masturbate to pictures of these types of girls.
Jackson Morales
Bassano del Grappa
Robert Young
London, richest city on earth, majority are foreigners, has most intellectual debates. Very close to Oxford/Cambridge.
Matthew Anderson
>Athens What about Rome? You know, the centre of the largest empire in human history at the time?
Jacob Evans
I would join salo, but my politics are too Marxist. They have a nice forum.
William Gray
The Romans were barbarians. All the culture came from the East.
Cooper Lewis
Baltimore, MD unironically. me + friends
Samuel Wright
JHU is at the forefront of many academic fields, and the state of the city provides an existential imperitive towards higher meaning
Hudson Turner
with a bridge like that bassano needs more engineers than intellectuals
Carter Turner
>At every point in history there has been an intellectual capital of the world. No there hasn't.
Caleb Edwards
So... all the architecture, the advanced state of their Legion Army with uniformed armour and weaponry not to mention the ballistas, the philosophers, the social programs (including a sort of 'wheat welfare' which sadly ultimately helped to destroy the economy) and all the bridges that had been built throughout the empire along with bath houses including some in Londinium (modern day London), etc... but none of that provided any culture and instead was just barbarism compared to Greece?
Ayden Kelly
boards.Veeky Forums.org/lit/
Joshua Wilson
unironically new york city
Mason Gutierrez
Yes they're barbarians, the Romans and Greeks are like Aristotles and Alexander.
Justin Ortiz
It was also several hundreds of years later
Levi Taylor
Somewhere in canada Toronto Or whereever JBP teaches.
Chase Peterson
Lucky for you they exist in droves
Samuel Carter
The Romans at least during the Republic hated philosophy they thought that the Greeks aimed at destroying their traditional values by introducing philosophy. At some point they banned it and exiled all the Greek philosophers who were living in Rome.
Cato the Elder was struck with horror, along with many other Romans of the graver stamp, at the licence of the Bacchanalian mysteries, which he attributed to the influence of Greek manners; and he vehemently urged the dismissal of the philosophers Carneades, Diogenes, and Critolaus, who had come as ambassadors from Athens, on account of what he believed was the dangerous nature of their ideas. Also he had a horror of physicians, who were chiefly Greeks.
There is not a single philosophical school arising from Italy, all Roman citizens who were philosophers followed one of the Greek philosophical schools, like Marcus Aurelius was a stoic, so was Seneca the Younger. And even during the Roman period most of the philosophers were Greeks and most of the philosophical works of the Roman period were written in Alexandria, Greece or Asia Minor.
Logan Brown
Im not sure you know what an intellectual capital is.
Cameron Smith
People meme by saying the internet is the intellectual capital of the world, but there's some truth to it. In the past, intellectuals congregated in particular places in order to easily communicate with each other, and with the internet this need has been eradicated more or less.
The most interesting conversations are probably happening in groupchats right now.
But really, if I had to pick a particular place, I'd say it was still new york, if only because nowhere has contested its claim to intellectual capital, no matter how much this reputation has sagged in recent years
iktf
Liam Adams
Berlin
Not even memeing.
Oliver Stewart
Berlin is a big tech center in Europe now. Along those lines I would say Silicon Valley or Seattle. That's where the hyper rich "decide your future" types live. Think bill gates, jeff bezos, and elon musk
Easton Lee
>a man of taste
David Robinson
thank you user... you are a god
David Morales
The internet blogosphere
Wyatt Jenkins
...
Xavier Gonzalez
I know most of you pseuds have probably never even heard about the place, but mark my words. For the last few years some very interesting conversations have taken place, and will continue to take place, between the worlds leading intellectuals in Bergen, Norway which will shape the cultural and political world for the next century. In a hundred years time historians will look upon what is happening in Bergen right now as just as, if not more, influential in the shaping of the coming decades than 68-movement was in the shaping of the latter part of the 20th century.
Robert Green
as soon as you niggers are out of oil your shit country will go downhill.
Eli Clark
Tell me more
Easton Campbell
L.A?
Kevin Ward
>Obviously, in ancient times, this was Athens. laughing persians.png laughing chinese.jpeg laughing indians.gif
Andrew Robinson
laughing bait.oldmeme
Josiah Walker
Were those capitals/significant cities recognized at the time of their prominence? I'm not talking Rome/London where they were just the biggest thing around and the 'centers of the world', but rather Vienna before WWI, where there were obviously other cities (like today), yet something significant was happening there.
Michael Carter
Veeky Forums.
Angel Perez
>saving the persians in png and chinese in jpg lmao@urlife
Colton Garcia
washington, london, bejng
Oliver Bennett
This. The internet decentralises information first and foremost. Looking for an intellectual capital in one place is just anachronistic.
Jordan Harris
China has been the greatest civilisation in the world until 1820 or so. And around 2030 it's bound to be so again.
The whole phenomenon of the West is a quirky intermission in world history.
Eurocentrism is silly and unwarranted.
Daniel Roberts
>tfw getting sexually harassed by british slags on holiday
feels great to be objectified.
Jonathan Peterson
I would specify it to certain websites, but I never saw it this way.
Angel Parker
New York? When was New York ever the “intellectual capital” of anywhere? Postwar, I’d say it was artistic capital, but Paris held pretty tightly to the intellectual capital until the 80s at least, and after that I’d just say there is no capital.
Maybe Ljubljana?
Austin King
>Maybe Ljubljana? no
I dont get why people are mentioning Budapest, Ljubljana or Prague or any other eastern european city. I live in a big EE city and am among those you would call intelectuals here (no, not hipsters, actually accomplished ppl within high levels of intellectual society - not politically yet tho) and no, there is simply no way anyone in EE is having any impact whatsoever in global scheme of things
You will have to look at Chinese cities, probably Washington (NY and LA are just hipsters, editors and random academics) maybe Boston and then, politically speaking, definitely Moscow.
Also probably Brusel or Berlin but Europeans are such a joke lately. Dont mention random cities just because you feel like aesthethically it fits the definition in OPs question.
Zachary Sanchez
...
Kayden Murphy
t. head in the sand american
Oliver Stewart
Do you seriously think one man makes an “intellectual hotspot”, I’m so fucking tired of you goddamn sycophants.
Toronto is an important intellectual centre, but not because some fucking psych prof started making YouTubes about how trans kids are destroying society.
If you look on Wikipedias list of important UofT psychologists Peterson doesn’t even make the list. And how many of you know of Endel Tulving, easily in the top 50 psychologists of all time, revolutionized how we understand memory and cognition.
Noah Cooper
>Ljubljana good one.
Kayden Powell
how can you even say that
because of Zizek?
You are out of your mind and probably never been to Slovenia
Grayson Parker
Ahhh anyone ever not visit Veeky Forums threads for weeks at a time and feel refreshed at the thought that while you plumb the depths and explore the heights of the loftiest and most profound human artistic endeavors you dumb homos are "still" here incessantly yammering with your useless memes and garbage mediocre tastes and ideas? Feels pretty good, man.
Jaxson James
Hay-on-Wye
Jaxon Anderson
This. Today we read about the art fags in Paris. Tomorrow we'll read about the /litfags on Veeky Forums.
William Nguyen
Also Alenka Zupančič, Mladen Dolar, Renata Salecl and Samo Tomšič
Ethan Smith
Which ones?
Carter Perez
>delacroix fitting footservice into death scenes good taste user, back to reading the sticky
Colton Morgan
I'm from the eastern med
Jace Garcia
Where do you find videos like this?
Ethan Long
Real life is obsolesced by the digital. Veeky Forums should just meet up in vr chatrooms using their favorite book/writer as their model. Then we can shit post with a face but still never "our" face
Benjamin Brown
>smoking >white but blacked >dishonest with their hair >not wearing proper shoes / walking in the dirt >generic dress >not vegan >fat >celulitis >watch on the right wrist >probably more than 25 years old and still being a "party girl"
Christopher Barnes
is that a euphemism for balkans?
Luke Hill
is claire vegan? :3
i always thought she was pure
Nicholas Hughes
no its just the middle east
Brandon Phillips
mi diario desumente.
Easton Collins
Sylicon Valley
Luke Turner
The Internet is the greatest civilization in the Universe
Austin Martinez
;)
Cooper Sullivan
>thinks nation-state identity will matter in a globalized future with mutant superhumans who can choose phenotypic features at will lmaoing @ your myopic worldview
Jeremiah Taylor
Has Veeky Forums produced a single noteworthy writer?
Kevin Hughes
Is a single one of those blonds a real blond? God I wish I were born a female today, I could just dye my hair blond.
Jordan Gutierrez
They're emblematic of everything terrible about modernity but I still feel you
Eli Mitchell
>implying the Chinese won't remake themselves as six foot four Nordics
Bentley Perry
Is that an actual sample of Nick Land's writing? Is he that incoherent?
Jaxson James
...
Levi Garcia
new york city
Christopher Sanchez
>(((In the late 20th century, it was New York.)))
Charles Perry
Chez moi, when I start my monologues.
Tyler Gutierrez
I remember when the Internet was purely western. It was glorious and most people are actually literate.
Henry Hall
Wherever Dan Schneider lives in
Liam Powell
would unironically be pretty neet, shame i don't have a VR set.
Jason Hall
The Internet, and more specifically, on Skeptic YouTube channel comment sections. This is the place where only the most rational and enlightened Kekistani soliders are victorious in the battle of ideas against the authorotarian cultural marxist SJW liberals. PRAISE KEKISTAN! :-)
Adam Perry
This exactly.
Levi Morgan
Not just Western but smart enough to use those shitty computers. You basically had no dumb people online for a while.
On the other hand it’s fun seeing the third world come online though.
Colton Ortiz
kek
Connor Nelson
Intellectual HQ has been and always will be... RRREEEEDDDDDITTTTTT!!!!!
Adrian Rogers
Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong Kill.your.self. you fucking retard
Angel Fisher
Oh look, a delusional westaboo.
Noah Allen
> thinking New York was an intellectual capital wtf OP
Kevin Gomez
> thinking foreigners are capable of being intellectual ha.
Asher Nguyen
Silicon Valley obviously.
Sebastian Ward
>flicks lights on and off
settle down now children
Eli Scott
this.
elon musk is probably shitposting behind a screen name somewhere, not fucking drinking overpriced coffee with some kids in scarves.
Jayden Jackson
I begrudgingly have to say it's the internet. There's no real intellectual discussion taking place these days. Everyone is just engaged in institutionalist warfare with each other, so instead of trying to argue with other ideas, they try to get the guys they disagree with fired. If I had to name a place, it would probably be New York City or Washington D.C. Rome had some really impressive people, and was certainly one of the most advanced cities on the planet. However, Rome copied a lot of its culture from Greece, so naturally Greece was able to maintain its existing culture, and develop even further. It's similar to in economics where it's easier for a poor country to advance because they can just copy technology from the rich ones; whereas a rich country needs to invest a lot into developing new ideas. Greece never really needed to "play catch-up," so it was able to maintain its incredible intellectual sphere. It was actually a very common practice for the Roman aristocracy to send their children to study Greek and Philosophy in Greece.