I'm a brainlet and I want to get into philosophy. Do you guys have any charts for reading order?

I'm a brainlet and I want to get into philosophy. Do you guys have any charts for reading order?

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Leibniz>Voltaire>Hegel>Marx>Nietszche>Schopenhauer>Camus>Cioran>Weiniger

Start with the Greeks

Where is Kant?

>Nietzsche before Schopenhauer
>Directly from Voltaire to Hegel

getting into philosophy is really much easier than all these charts make it seem. before you buy a bunch of books, I would just explore stuff online, most of the old good stuff is available for free.

Greek stuff is good, but you don't need to start with it. Plato's dialogues are great though, i'd look most of the shorter ones and just read them in a sitting or two. Decarte's Meditaitons is also cool for showing a pretty rigorous way of thinking. Both of those are great because they don't require too much background to be able to at least initially understand.

If you have any specific topics of interest, i'd look up philosophy about that since it'll especially interest you. Oxford makes a lot of great handbooks for specific topics of philosophy, like free will, or philosophy of mind.

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Why isn't this in the sticky yet?

These are great, thanks.

>no Kant

>started with the Republic
I dun goofed

ehat the fuck?

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Also check out Anthony Kenny's A New History of Western Philosophy, great book for starters imho.

Descartes, Locke, Hume, Kant, Hegel, Marx

thats it

I read the Odyssey in fourth grade and didn' care for it that much at the time. Do I need to reread it?

no

No, read Harvey Mansfield's instead.

>Marx

This may be a dumb question, but are there any differences in the texts between the 1000+ page book and the four separate volumes?

define communism

Yeah he condensed them to make it an easier read. I don't know the differences between the two but he did it for a reason so it's probably better to read the single volume.

no, its much more difficult than anyone could ever possibly convey to you
idiot shitpost
go away leftist

this is a communist board.

Why the hostility user?

ut's when bernie sanders joins the DSA

Start with Engels "Socialism: Scientific and Utopian" and then just go wherever the wind takes you

this. read the iliad and odyssey, dismissed everything else and started with the republic. maybe im too much of a brainlet to understand anything

...

>China
>Communist
lmao

> any communism that failed isn't real communism
t. communist

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I would suggest for you to look for a philosopher you like. You could always try the contemporary ones, tho I would suggest for you to check the classics because (personaly) I find them more interesting and more challenging them the pop philosophy that is sold today.
I don't recall exactly with philosopher I used to start reading philosophy, but I think it was Nietzche.
Maybe you wanna check a list of big philosophers and choose the one who looks more interesting to you.
I would recommend avoinding the more hard reading ones in the beggining (Hobbes, Marx, Spengler, some others), they will make you think philosophy is too hard when is quite simple actualy.
Maybe you can look for some greek philosopher like Plato or Aristotle.
Maybe some Voltaire, Kant (tho I hate Kant with a burning passion), Hegel (Hegel isen't hard, don't trust their lies!), Schopenhauer, Bakunin or so on.
Honestely, I would suggest you go to a bookstore and look the classical ones and choose one of your liking. Read the description of each book and give a try on the one you find more interesting.
You are already doing the most important step that is curiosity. From here, it's a very fluid journey, realy.

Does anyone actually start at the very beginning, and read the Odyssey and Illiad and all that? It just seems like a meme to discourage you, not even professional philosophers read all the Greeks. I never would have started with philosophy if I went with an autistically chronological order, I started with Descartes and other rationalists, jumped around to whoever I liked, consulted a lot of secondary literature, got into Aristotle later on when I realised his genius etc.

I mean, if you are really really disciplined, I guess you can try, but it seems like horrible advice for a beginner.

Even if you did, you didn't appreciate it.

I haven't read any philosophy and I read the Iliad and the Odyssey as entertainment. Are you implying they're difficult reads or something?

I just don't care for them. I dislike most fiction these days to be honest. Just get around to the philosophy with the power of 20th century anglo scholarship behind you.

Anyone else think that for a giant like that, that sort of armour is pretty pointless? Nobody's going to stab him in the face and cloth of thickness relative to his height would easily absorb arrows. A sword is also a pointless weapon for him. He'd be better off with lighter clothing, a scythe and heavy boots.

But the thickness of clothes isn't relative to height.

Well obviously but I still recall what happened very well. I'm just wondering if there's some unique aspect that is needed to understand other literature

homer's the harry potter of the greeks, they can't explain anything without making references to homer

cause it's a fucking painting: it's just meant to look cool. A giant knight could not even exist because of the square cube law.

>it's just meant to look cool
actually it's meant to serve as masturbation aid to a pathetically insecure joke of a nation

>Locke
>ending it with Marx rather than treating him as a sideshow

>How to go from optimism to absolute pessimism

>cloth of thickness relative to his height
this is unironically why Veeky Forumsfags are brainlets

Just find a book you that interests you and read it.

lmao

It doesn't matter if you "recall what happened", if you can't understand the deeper meaning and context of the work, then you need to reread it. Reading anything Greek isn't about knowing "what happened", you absolute pleb.